Luminescent Staff

[Regulus77]

Do you have to be a certain level for it to work? How much are they?

[CanadianTSi]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Luminescent_Staff

[Troxx]

Cost 5k
Level 46 to use.
10 second cast for ~180 quad DD.
Chain casting on a single mob is 18dps ... which is more than vs comparable to the sustained DD dps than a 60 Druid chain nuking can maintain - mana free.

It's a great item to have around even when not quadding.

[Baler]

It doesn't cost 5k LMFAO
Can get them in EC for 3-4 every day.

Troxx I've noticed a trend in your post style.
You fly under the radar but you're a s poster.

[Doctor Jeff]

The difference between 3 and 5k is pennies

[Troxx]

Troxx I've noticed a trend in your post style.
You fly under the radar but you're a s poster.

Huh? Care to elaborate?

[Gumbo]

I never saw the big deal about the Lumi staff... It is decide if you decide to quad but what other use are you going to have for it?

[Darkatar]

Edit: Don't math at 3am

[Troxx]

I never saw the big deal about the Lumi staff... It is decide if you decide to quad but what other use are you going to have for it?

The big deal is the usefulness with quadding. It's 55-65 dps (factoring in run time between clicks) mana free. Apart from quadding, along with ES vambraces it is mana free damage you can use to drop mobs while charming.

Mana free clicks are a big deal for Druids.

[Doctor Jeff]

lol it's not just for quadding. It's for zero mana sustained dps any time you are outside.

[Darkatar]

lol it's not just for quadding. It's for zero mana sustained dps any time you are outside.

It does technically cost you 1-2 med tics.

[Doctor Jeff]

It does technically cost you 1-2 med tics.

I med while casting.

[Darkatar]

I med while casting.

Yeah but the other 95% of people don't.

Why doesn't red have it's own class discussion yet?

[Doctor Jeff]

Yeah but the other 95% of people don't.

Why doesn't red have it's own class discussion yet?

also it's still more mana efficient than nukes.

[Darkatar]

also it's still more mana efficient than nukes.

Right, but it's not "mana free"

Unless you're the segment that plays red

[Doctor Jeff]

Right, but it's not "mana free"

Unless you're the segment that plays red

it is, however, zero-mana

Since we decided to be pedantic.

[Darkatar]

it is, however, zero-mana

Since we decided to be pedantic.

Just as long as we're all on the same page

[Doctor Jeff]

lol it's not just for quadding. It's for zero mana sustained dps any time you are outside.

Just as long as we're all on the same page

Worst troll ever

[Darkatar]

Worst troll ever

Specifically noting that there is a mana cost with a zero-mana clickable object (from lack of medding) is trolling now?

[Doctor Jeff]

Specifically noting that there is a mana cost with a zero-mana clickable object (from lack of medding) is trolling now?

There is no mana cost, there is loss of mana potential while remaining more efficient than any casted spell. You're not even trying now.

You are saving mana by casting this and missing the single tick.

You are literally wrong. The most obvious kind of wrong.

The alternative is doing no damage.

[Darkatar]

There is no mana cost, there is loss of mana
http://i.imgur.com/e5Hc3iV.jpg

[Doctor Jeff]

IMG

Potential mana is not mana that you have.

If your intention is to do zero damage, not casting this will be more efficient and you miss out on potential mana by doing so.

If you are intending to do damage, missing one tick to cast this will be the most efficient way.

Edit: in your scenario, you don't actually kill the mob, that's what makes your post a troll.

[Spyder73]

I want to punch both of you in the face now

TLDR - Lumi staff is good

[Doctor Jeff]

I want to punch you in the face now

Some people cannot handle the truth.

[Siberious]

Seems to be a lot of dick swinging going around here in-between the useful information.

From my experience I used lumi staff 46-49 to non-stop quad the shellcatcher otters in Cobalt Scar that roam into the water. It was fantastic for leveling 46-49. Once I got to 49, I almost exclusively used the 49 Quad nuke because my druid was very well geared and Mana almost was never an issue, though I would use the lumi to finish off quads if I ever ran oom.

I leveled 49-54 in Cobalt Scar off wyverns/drakes, and due to the fact they are usually contested by at least 1 other most of the time, I saw no real use for the low dmg lumi staff did compared to their hp pools. I also I had to wait for respawns usually anyways, and I enjoyed some down time to do r/l stuff between quads.

That said for a lesser geared druid I'd see great use in using lumi staff to quad from 49-54 as well, as insurance for if mobs resists or hps force you to run oom before the kite ends. When root rotting it can be used to finish off mobs if you run oom as well.

All the above is from solo experience, from a group standpoint not sure the long cast does a lot for you, and there are probably better things you could be doing to benefit the group through CC/spot heals/nukes/stuns/harmony depending on indoor/outdoor.

TL:DR - for a lesser geared druid imo the Lumi staff has significant value from 46-54 solo, and minimal use at any level in a group. 55+ it becomes a nice to have for insurance of free damage if you ever run oom, though at that point you're quadding/rotting mobs that have too many hps for your Mana pool and I'd find a new camp or buy some cheap +Wis and +Mana gear to get it up a bit and try again. If you can afford it by 46 buy it, it'll be great 46-49 and good/insurance 49-54.

[Troxx]

It does technically cost you 1-2 med tics.

Single target nuking - the math:

It is 18.2 dps on a single target.

With POTG, mask and c2 a Druid can generate 42 mana a tick - 7 mana a second. 59 nuke is 3.2 dpm but you lose a tick casting. So a fully buffed level 60 druid can sustain via nukes 2-3 more dps hitting every single med tick than a 46 Druid chain clicking a stick. There's a lot of Druids out there 46-59 who don't have POTG and c2 all the time.

I'm not advocating Druids sitting around chain clicking their lumi staves. There is better use of their mana. I'm just pointing out the value of the stick.

For quadding the high level nukes generate 8+ dpm vs 4 mobs. Unless you're oom or need to finish off 1-2, it's more ideal to mix in actual level appropriate spells and to kill them faster and med up.

It has its uses - and it goes beyond just kiting.