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Toiletzombie
06-13-2017, 05:20 AM
Hello,
I am not sure if I quite understand how this zone works. Once you wake up papa dragon a bunch of the named bosses disappear from inside the zone right? Looking at the wiki there is no known loot, I am assuming because he is neigh impossible to beat, level 99 and what not. So what's the point? Does he have to be woken up to unlock new velious content? Seems kind of shitty that all those item's are unobtainable now. (Sceptre of Destruction, how many are on blue anyways?)
Baler
06-13-2017, 07:20 AM
Rampage screwed us all over and is the #1 hated guild on p99 blue.
:mad:
They ran to WoW with their tails between their legs so they could avoid running their name into the ground any further. As other hated guilds have demonstrated the longer you stick around the worse your guilds reputation becomes. They literally woke the sleeper then left the server. I mean WTF.
Most of these guilds members are smug bastards anyways. They get joy from flaunting their items no one else can ever get.
So you'll never be able to witness Sleeper on P99 blue because of rampage. *spits*
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So something about sleeper wakes up and flys across the world to vox kills her, naggy kills him, some other places.. I actually forget the lore part.
Izmael
06-13-2017, 07:25 AM
The only reason to wake the Sleeper was to make some items no longer obtainable, in order to make those already looted more valuable and unique.
There is no other reason to wake the Sleeper, and anyone who pretends otherwise is either ignorant or lying.
Freakish
06-13-2017, 08:44 AM
There's 11 sceptres. /flaunt
Lhancelot
06-13-2017, 08:57 AM
Rampage was unhappy with the politics of the raid scene, unhappy with themselves with internal contention between members, and were angry and spiteful of the server.
So like a petulant child that doesn't want to play with a toy anymore yet loathes the idea of others playing with said toy, destroyed it - thus waking the Sleeper before they quit the game.
A few of them did stick around, but the majority of them left the server.
You can talk to some of the old school members of Rampage and they will tell you the story.
It's a nice foray into true nerd drama that has become part of the history of p99.
It still makes me sad knowing the Sleeper was woke only to ruin it so no one else could do so.
Tecmos Deception
06-13-2017, 09:05 AM
There is no other reason to wake the Sleeper, and anyone who pretends otherwise is either ignorant or lying.
Give me a break. It's entirely possible (and likely, even) that some of the people who participated in waking the sleeper enjoyed it in and of itself, not just because they were trying to spite the rest of the server or increase the future value of their rods.
Lhancelot
06-13-2017, 09:13 AM
Give me a break. It's entirely possible (and likely, even) that some of the people who participated in waking the sleeper enjoyed it in and of itself, not just because they were trying to spite the rest of the server or increase the future value of their rods.
I think you underestimate just how important a valuable rod is.
***Honestly just talk to some of the members of Rampage, many of them are candid about it. Sure, there was some enjoyment in the experience of waking the Sleeper, but the primary motive truly was giving the server the biggest middle finger they could before they quit p99.
zodium
06-13-2017, 09:14 AM
I for one blame Franswa.
Tecmos Deception
06-13-2017, 09:33 AM
Sure, there was some enjoyment in the experience of waking the Sleeper, but the primary motive truly was giving the server the biggest middle finger they could before they quit p99.
I didn't deny that this might be the case. I just said Izmael was probably incorrect that this was the only motivation for everyone involved.
Sounds like rampage dominated and alot of y'all are mad
KEWLGET
06-13-2017, 10:06 AM
i woke the sleeper on red99 simply to make other people mad
GinnasP99
06-13-2017, 10:16 AM
i woke the sleeper on red99 simply to make other people mad
I'm sure the other 7 people were furious.
Icetech
06-13-2017, 10:19 AM
Alot of jealousy in this thread:)
i woke the sleeper on red99 simply to make other people mad
thanks for the lungi
If you were the top guild in a game for quite some time and wanted to leave the server for greener pastures but there was one last major, game changing event left to experience, would you honestly just walk away or would you come together for one last time as a guild and participate in it?
Anyone that says they would not participate because they would get more enjoyment from knowing they left up some content for everyone else they would potentially never see again are completely lying or are modern day Saints.
All the other propaganda is just what people are telling themselves because they want to stay mad because they missed the experience/pixels.
radda
06-13-2017, 10:43 AM
I was an officer of Rampage. I can't speak for everyone else, but like I said before, waking the sleeper is the biggest event in Everquest and I wanted to experience it. I play Everquest for fun, not out of some weird anger to keep casuals from experiencing content. Not everything is about you.
justify it any way, but you knew damn well it was dickish.
the storys we all heard from the past were enough to experience it yet let our museum of a server enjoy the fruits. "you" just had to have the apple and were tickled it would be pissing others off.
though we already knew you would be doing this and if the tables were turned, it wouldnt have been "us".
in other words the "other" guild would have had let many more loots drop.
branamil
06-13-2017, 10:44 AM
If you were the top guild in a game for quite some time and wanted to leave the server for greener pastures but there was one last major, game changing event left to experience, would you honestly just walk away or would you come together for one last time as a guild and participate in it?
Anyone that says they would not participate because they would get more enjoyment from knowing they left up some content for everyone else they would potentially never see again are completely lying or are modern day Saints.
All the other propaganda is just what people are telling themselves because they want to stay mad because they missed the experience/pixels.
Experience the content? There's like 3 buggy scripts where kerafyrm kills dragons in other zones. Really? Trade that for permanently blocking other people from content? Totally a dick move
Lhancelot
06-13-2017, 10:50 AM
If you were the top guild in a game for quite some time and wanted to leave the server for greener pastures but there was one last major, game changing event left to experience, would you honestly just walk away or would you come together for one last time as a guild and participate in it?
Anyone that says they would not participate because they would get more enjoyment from knowing they left up some content for everyone else they would potentially never see again are completely lying or are modern day Saints.
All the other propaganda is just what people are telling themselves because they want to stay mad because they missed the experience/pixels.
This is sugar coating the entire situation though, at least from the perspective I was given by a long time member of Rampage.
You are glossing over a lot of the internal problems the guild was suffering from and other details too.
Point is there were many different elements to why Rampage woke the Sleeper.
Pretending it was to experience the last wondrous piece of EQ1 that p99 offered is only telling a small part of the story. :p
Grizzler
06-13-2017, 11:29 AM
Won't the sleeper return once they get up the "progression" server that resets after so much time? Isn't that still being setup by the devs?
Obviously it is done on blue but I think we should still have something to look forward to on that server, no?
Pure speculation. If the new recycle servers gets off the ground and if the sleeper remains asleep till the end of that server then maybe he could be put back to sleep on blue.
Grizzler
06-13-2017, 11:34 AM
Pure speculation.
Ah, good to know.
Triiz
06-13-2017, 11:36 AM
If you were the top guild in a game for quite some time and wanted to leave the server for greener pastures
A majority of us are still here, sadly.
lol
Lhancelot
06-13-2017, 12:15 PM
lol
That right there shows you a glimpse into the guild and the fact they had some internal issues going on breaking the guild apart well before they ever decided to wake the sleeper.
Tecmos Deception
06-13-2017, 12:24 PM
justify it any way, but you knew damn well it was dickish.
the storys we all heard from the past were enough to experience it yet let our museum of a server enjoy the fruits. "you" just had to have the apple and were tickled it would be pissing others off.
though we already knew you would be doing this and if the tables were turned, it wouldnt have been "us".
in other words the "other" guild would have had let many more loots drop.
You realize that p99 isn't instanced, right?
Literally every time you've ever killed something, turned in a quest item that despawns the mob, looted a drop... every time you were denying the person who showed up later the chance to do what you did.
Are you a dick for killing Hadden and looting his earring, and then when someone logs on an hour later to look for him he is denied the chance because you got "the apple" instead?
Are you a dick for turning in a shimmering pearl for your cleric when another cleric wants it too?
Are you a dick for winning a one-time GM event instead of letting the 2nd place guy have the prize?
Are you a dick for winning a BOTB and getting a title instead of the next guy?
Nope.
And Rampage aren't dicks for experiencing content just because it so happens to also deny content to everyone else, either. They might be dicks if they revel in the salt that comes on account of what they did, or if they woke the sleeper solely to spite everyone else. But short of that? That's non-instanced MMO for you.
i will just point out that when I kill hadden it's in the expectation that he will respawn.
loramin
06-13-2017, 12:28 PM
Oh c'mon, killing the Sleeper is nothing like any of those, or anything else in EverQuest for that matter. It is the only way, in the entire game, that you can affect the world permanently.
Are you a dick for killing Hadden and looting his earring, and then when someone logs on an hour later to look for him he is denied the chance because you got "the apple" instead?
Are you a dick for turning in a shimmering pearl for your cleric when another cleric wants it too?
They respawn; Sleeper doesn't.
Are you a dick for winning a one-time GM event instead of letting the 2nd place guy have the prize?
Are you a dick for winning a BOTB and getting a title instead of the next guy?
Someone has to win those; no one has to wake the Sleeper.
Izmael
06-13-2017, 12:41 PM
You realize that p99 isn't instanced, right?
Are you a dick for killing Hadden and looting his earring, and then when someone logs on an hour later to look for him he is denied the chance because you got "the apple" instead?
And Rampage aren't dicks for experiencing content just because it so happens to also deny content to everyone else, either. They might be dicks if they revel in the salt that comes on account of what they did, or if they woke the sleeper solely to spite everyone else. But short of that? That's non-instanced MMO for you.
I'm sure you can see the difference between killing Hadden and waking the Sleeper. One will respawn every 8? hours forever, the other will remove some mobs from the game who dropped some BiS or otherwise unique items.
Also as far as "experiencing content" is concerned, I fail to see what content are you referring to? Seeing the model of Kerafyrm? Google it and see it, there, you got your content experience.
The person(s) who decided to wake the sleeper were doing it to spite the rest of the server and secure the legacy status of their robes, sceptres, masks, etc.
Rest of the guild members followed because they figured "if I don't go there, they will still do it without me and I won't even be able to say I was there".
You won't ever get Dainty Gloves or that CHA mask on your new enchanter on P99 because some unemployed overweight nerd who hadn't showered in a week decided so after his third daily wank. You're welcome.
skarlorn
06-13-2017, 12:44 PM
i heard that hokushin flew into an autistic rage when a competitor guild got the first Gharn's Fist of Nerdiness and whipped his guild of burning out neckbeards onward into a teary eyed attempt to give their lives some semblance of meaning beyond hemorrhoids and type 2 diabetes
really not much "content" to experience with the sleeper. I checked the twitch and it was basically the same as EQ always is. a lot of boring waiting around, fat dudes mouth breathing in vent, and an occassional glimpse at an ethereal dragon killing ppl
Don't let anyone try and convince you it was anything more than a last ditch effort to "win" p99 by denying select pixels to the rest of the server in perpetuity. Keep in mind, these are the same people who spent their precious vacation hours (or forego having employment at all) to play everquest 16-20 hours a day prior to the start of velious launch
Tecmos Deception
06-13-2017, 12:50 PM
Also as far as "experiencing content" is concerned, I fail to see what content are you referring to? Seeing the model of Kerafyrm? Google it and see it, there, you got your content experience.
Why not google what a wardar drop looks like and be content? Or play a custom server and give yourself all the wardar loot? There. No need to have the sleeper asleep still!
You guys are grouchy that you were denied content because of what someone else wanted to do, and therefore you're arguing that someone else should have been denied content because of what you want to do.
:rolleyes:
branamil
06-13-2017, 01:13 PM
Why not google what a wardar drop looks like and be content? Or play a custom server and give yourself all the wardar loot? There. No need to have the sleeper asleep still!
You guys are grouchy that you were denied content because of what someone else wanted to do, and therefore you're arguing that someone else should have been denied content because of what you want to do.
:rolleyes:
Again, the "Content" poor Rampage would have been denied is a 30 second script of watching a buggy model killing some models in other zones. No extra loot. In exchange for that they permanently decreased content for everyone else.
Jimjam
06-13-2017, 01:21 PM
i will just point out that when I kill hadden it's in the expectation that he will respawn.
Well, this is just the beta, so when green rolls out Sleeper will respawn!
The real dickmove will be waking the Sleeper on there.
Who cares about Blue, really. It's fun but it is transient.
Tuurin
06-13-2017, 01:27 PM
Breaking news- there is no new content in EQ unless you play live. Even waking the sleeper is already 10+ year old content and it's been done dozens of times on live servers when it actually was an accomplishment.
It'd be different I suppose if Rampage had woken the sleeper the first weekend that Velious launched or something, but that's not the case so everyone had the opportunity to see ST/Warders if they wanted to. So you can't get some arguably BiS item- every mob in the game is already on farm status without warder drops, so what are we upset about????
Jeez, it's like someone being pissed that someone spoiled the ending of Titanic for them. What'd you think was going to happen? It's a 20 yr-old movie about a 100-yr old historic event. The ship sinks for Christ's sake.
Ashintar
06-13-2017, 01:34 PM
Would we do it again? Of course.
Waking the Sleeper? Something I didn't get to experience in live? Would do it again, maybe even twice. And for those who missed out on the experience, here is a video from a cleric's POV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM5dsRdWGg&t=37s
Well, this is just the beta, so when green rolls out Sleeper will respawn!
That server isn't happening and if it does people like me will wake it when were done with it.
no csr in ST on green. that would be a fun bloodbath.
no csr in ST on green. that would be a fun bloodbath.
good luck even getting keys
Lhancelot
06-13-2017, 02:08 PM
Waking the Sleeper? Something I didn't get to experience in live? Would do it again, maybe even twice. And for those who missed out on the experience, here is a video from a cleric's POV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM5dsRdWGg&t=37s
You are the friend that no one wants to film special events for them right? rofl. I hardly can see the damn dragon!
You should have ran up into it's face and ran circles around it, the whole time trying to get the best film of it as possible.
Screw CHing people, you knew you were going to die anyway. :D
Tecmos Deception
06-13-2017, 03:02 PM
Waking the Sleeper? Something I didn't get to experience in live? Would do it again, maybe even twice. And for those who missed out on the experience, here is a video from a cleric's POV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM5dsRdWGg&t=37s
So youre the reason none of these people can farm ROAs for their alts?! Bad Drumas, bad!
Lhancelot
06-13-2017, 03:08 PM
So youre the reason none of these people can farm ROAs for their alts?! Bad Drumas, bad!
He's a bad photographer, that's for sure. I expect better video of such a monumental elf event, aint like you can go back and do it again. Sigh.
Tecmos Deception
06-13-2017, 03:13 PM
He's a bad photographer, that's for sure. I expect better video of such a monumental elf event, aint like you can go back and do it again. Sigh.
From what I hear, we're lucky the entire video wasn't him staring at a wall from 1 foot away :)
Ashintar
06-13-2017, 03:24 PM
All of your elf tears fuel my desire to play on P99, thank you :) The video was just a consolation prize since you couldn't be there for the event.
Tecmos I have an RoA for sale for you...
Originally Posted by Lhancelot
He's a bad photographer, that's for sure. I expect better video of such a monumental elf event, aint like you can go back and do it again. Sigh.
Why do I need to do it again? I was there the fist time. Unless it is reset? then if so I'll be there to wake it again :)
Izmael
06-13-2017, 03:51 PM
Drumas and Colgate are the only ones honest about it, may the eternal pras be bestowed on their goblin heads. They just wanted to see tears, (ie: spite people).
There's nothing more to it. Move to resolved.
Izmael
06-13-2017, 04:18 PM
It's almost as different people can have different motivations.
I'm sure you would feel very different about this if you didn't have a gnome mask.
fan D
06-13-2017, 04:23 PM
here are some picture of the
PROJECT 1999 FIRST PRIMAL VELIUM SPEAR
http://i.imgur.com/xIsKnIC.jpg
and here is some fan art made by a couple of losers such as yourselves, losers who will never know the feeling of a server first primal or any primal at all. losers who can only dream and imagine what it's like to obtain such a powerful pixel. that being said, it's a beautiful drawing.
http://i.imgur.com/vlBl5Uc.jpg
radda
06-13-2017, 04:49 PM
You realize that p99 isn't instanced, right?
Literally every time you've ever killed something, turned in a quest item that despawns the mob, looted a drop... every time you were denying the person who showed up later the chance to do what you did.
Are you a dick for killing Hadden and looting his earring, and then when someone logs on an hour later to look for him he is denied the chance because you got "the apple" instead?
Are you a dick for turning in a shimmering pearl for your cleric when another cleric wants it too?
Are you a dick for winning a one-time GM event instead of letting the 2nd place guy have the prize?
Are you a dick for winning a BOTB and getting a title instead of the next guy?
Nope.
And Rampage aren't dicks for experiencing content just because it so happens to also deny content to everyone else, either. They might be dicks if they revel in the salt that comes on account of what they did, or if they woke the sleeper solely to spite everyone else. But short of that? That's non-instanced MMO for you.
None if that equals ST, thanks for typing it out tho. If eqmac could do it, so could we.
RedXIII
06-13-2017, 05:41 PM
here are some picture of the
PROJECT 1999 FIRST PRIMAL VELIUM SPEAR
Need probably bigger letters, maybe someone will belive you.
nostalgiaquest
06-13-2017, 09:11 PM
with the amount of 60's on the server, it would have been cool too see them all band together and try to actually kill the sleeper. I know it's been done before on one of the zek's, but it still coulda been interesting if it happened here. That's what I would call "experiencing the content" 17 years later. And then everyone could really stroke their pixeldix all night.
But that would have required a bunch of spoiled children to work together. Which, well, ya know...
Sonark
06-13-2017, 09:49 PM
I always wondered about that.
Cause Zek did it a couple years after the fact, no?
I.e. with maybe Luclin or even PoP gear?
Jimjam
06-13-2017, 11:07 PM
with the amount of 60's on the server, it would have been cool too see them all band together and try to actually kill the sleeper. I know it's been done before on one of the zek's, but it still coulda been interesting if it happened here. That's what I would call "experiencing the content" 17 years later. And then everyone could really stroke their pixeldix all night.
But that would have required a bunch of spoiled children to work together. Which, well, ya know...
Total agreement. People claim to have 'won' the server, but lets be honest, this was the real way the server could have been won.
None if that equals ST, thanks for typing it out tho. If eqmac could do it, so could we.
https://youtu.be/vdb4IMoFBmI
skarlorn
06-14-2017, 02:01 AM
and here is some fan art made by a couple of losers such as yourselves, losers who will never know the feeling of a server first primal or any primal at all. losers who can only dream and imagine what it's like to obtain such a powerful pixel. that being said, it's a beautiful drawing.
http://i.imgur.com/vlBl5Uc.jpg
this is quality fan d content right here folks, opportunity to learn from the best
Borak
06-14-2017, 07:06 AM
I'm not 100% sure on how many SoDs there are, if I had to guess I'd say 6-8. I do know that there are 6 gnome masks.
Interesting, I didn't know the number of masks was that low.
We'll never get to experience that content </violin>. Except for that time one of the unnamed 6 mask owners was nice enough to let me try one out. I present to you, the champion of gnome legal rights on P99.
I don't know if we wiped on something that day, but that was a fun 36 minutes :D
http://i.imgur.com/kcwjYoh.jpg
Ravager
06-14-2017, 08:37 AM
And all the while the world outside still turns, indifferent to these petty squabbles and insignificant achievements.
Lhancelot
06-14-2017, 08:49 AM
with the amount of 60's on the server, it would have been cool too see them all band together and try to actually kill the sleeper.
Here we had the largest, most sumptious Cake ever baked... Just sitting and waiting to be devoured by the entire server, with neverending cupcakes materializing indefinitely, until that majestic, perfect Cake was touched.
Instead of forming a band of worthy eaters together to successfully eat that gigantic Cake, we had one greedy child that said to themselves, "I got enough cupcakes, can't even begin to eat the Cake, but no matter! I want to make sure no one else eats the Cake!"
Not having the ability or fortitude to even begin to eat the Cake, that greedy little child had no intention of trying to eat the Cake.
They ran to the Cake, holding their fists high, smashed the cake into lots of pieces, stomped their feet around on the Cake and rejoiced, "Hahaha! No one else will ever see the Cake! Only me!"
The child then told everyone after destroying the Cake that they did it only because they'd never tasted the Cake, and so felt it was their given right to try to eat the Cake.
"What did the Cake taste like, child?"
"I don't know I was too busy enjoying the moment of destroying the Cake! But it was worth every second and I would do it again!"
"Child, what about the cupcakes that used to miraculously appear for the end of times as long as the Cake was left alone?"
"Who cares, I got plenty of cupcakes, and I am soon to go on a no-sugar/fructose diet where I cannot eat cupcakes any longer! The only thing I have not seen is the Cake and so now I have. That is all."
Yes, yes... makes sense, but only to the child.
heartbrand
06-14-2017, 09:13 AM
Love my SoD.
yyrkoon
06-14-2017, 09:35 AM
i had enough st loot so i figured lets make it so nobody else gets any more lelelel
i'm a dick deal with it
Lhancelot
06-14-2017, 09:45 AM
That's pretty much it. ;)
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