View Full Version : XP from Deathfist Belts vs. Bone Chips
afelipe1189
06-06-2017, 10:21 AM
I have a level 5 rogue that I'm looking to quest to 13, either through bone chips or deathfist belts (evil).
Using some of the data I found on the forums and the wiki, I've calculated that it will take roughly 48 stacks of bone chips (and quite a bit of clicking) to level from 5-13, including the 9% class mod bonus for rogue.
Anyone happen to know how much xp is received per belt turn in, preferably in a numerical value (ex: 7,777 xp rewarded per 4 bone chips, per forum post)? If a numerical value isn't available, an approximate % per belt with level and class would work!
Won't be in game for a day or two, so just trying to plan ahead =P
Samoht
06-06-2017, 10:27 AM
Using some of the data I found on the forums and the wiki, I've calculated that it will take roughly 48 stacks of bone chips (and quite a bit of clicking) to level from 5-13, including the 9% class mod bonus for rogue.
That seems like an awfully low number of bone chips. I'd be surprised if you could even make it to 7 with that much. Last time I did bone chips, it took more than 10 stacks to move from 5 to 6 alone.
Jimjam
06-06-2017, 10:52 AM
When was the last time you did bone chips?
They are like 7000 xp per hand in.
afelipe1189
06-06-2017, 10:58 AM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272132
My source, which is actually thanks to this fella above!
I have a fancy excel file I put together that supports this (found a minor error in original calc, closer to 50 stacks, big whoop!)
Plus, just thinking logically, would people really pay 10p per stack to do 250 hand ins for a whopping 2 levels? O.o
Samoht
06-06-2017, 11:02 AM
When was the last time you did bone chips?
They are like 7000 xp per hand in.
last week? it seemed like it was less than 2% per turn-in at level 5, and barely 1% per turn-in at level 6.
Halius
06-06-2017, 11:15 AM
last week? it seemed like it was less than 2% per turn-in at level 5, and barely 1% per turn-in at level 6.
I think the bone chips quests are different for each area. Which bone chip quest did you do? About a month ago on my paladin I turned in 8 stacks and went from 7 to 9 with the Kaladim quest.
xKoopa
06-06-2017, 11:20 AM
Pro tip on bone chips
Bind something like ctrl + z to select center screen (u by default). Ctrl click bone chip to grab a single, ctrl z to put in trade window. Repeat 3 times then click trade
Samoht
06-06-2017, 11:36 AM
I think the bone chips quests are different for each area. Which bone chip quest did you do? About a month ago on my paladin I turned in 8 stacks and went from 7 to 9 with the Kaladim quest.
Oh, the Kaladim version is still granting too much XP per turn-in. For some reason I figured this was fixed by now.
Tupakk
06-06-2017, 11:39 AM
last week? it seemed like it was less than 2% per turn-in at level 5, and barely 1% per turn-in at level 6.
It's roughly 60 stacks to get from 0 - 12 in Kala. So I think you weren't turning them in right or to the wrong person
Jimjam
06-06-2017, 12:19 PM
Oh, the Kaladim version is still granting too much XP per turn-in. For some reason I figured this was fixed by now.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51872
This thread quotes some classic xp gains for bone chip quest, then has the working for how much xp the quest gives on p99 (at time of testing, I don't believe it has changed).
Basically, the values match.
Samoht
06-06-2017, 12:32 PM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51872
This thread quotes some classic xp gains for bone chip quest, then has the working for how much xp the quest gives on p99 (at time of testing, I don't believe it has changed).
Basically, the values match.
I'm not 100% sure on the context on your post in that thread, but the other posters are spot on. The EXP should taper off completely by level 7 or so. It should not reward any EXP to a level 24. Just like Mouse said, that's how it worked on live during this era, and you had to switch to CB belts and then CB pads to make it to 12.
Philaw
06-06-2017, 01:25 PM
i once lvled a ranger from lvl 1 to lvl 14ish on cb belts alone.......bad idea his skills really sucked lol
Jimjam
06-06-2017, 01:38 PM
I'm not 100% sure on the context on your post in that thread, but the other posters are spot on. The EXP should taper off completely by level 7 or so. It should not reward any EXP to a level 24. Just like Mouse said, that's how it worked on live during this era, and you had to switch to CB belts and then CB pads to make it to 12.
What? This is not like outlevelling mobs; it should reward 7k xp at every level (except 1-5, where it rewards less because the % of level you can earn at once cap).
Sure, at level 24 it is a drop in the ocean (0.3% per hand in, which might give the illusion of the quest not giving xp at that level), but xp never tapers off completely.
jolanar
06-06-2017, 02:09 PM
Definitely go bone chips if only because they are way easier to farm and stack to 20.
afelipe1189
06-06-2017, 03:46 PM
Definitely go bone chips if only because they are way easier to farm and stack to 20.
This seems to be the popular choice, although the reason I was looking for data on the belts was to see if it might be worth it for the later levels, 10-13. Per my calc, it will require about 35 stacks of bones to achieve that. Would love to save myself all the clicking if cost/farm time was close in comparison..
So on that note, any DFC belt data? Anyone?!
afelipe1189
06-07-2017, 08:57 AM
Well, I ended up going to bone chip route this morning. To my surprise, it only took 41-42 stacks to go from 5.0-13.0 as a half elf rogue.
Big props to xKoopa - the tip made it a lot less painless
Pro tip on bone chips
Bind something like ctrl + z to select center screen (u by default). Ctrl click bone chip to grab a single, ctrl z to put in trade window. Repeat 3 times then click trade
Gumbo
06-07-2017, 04:32 PM
How many orc and gnoll scalps would it take instead of bone chips and deathfist belts to level?
Maner
06-07-2017, 05:05 PM
How many orc and gnoll scalps would it take instead of bone chips and deathfist belts to level?
You don't ever want to use scalps on a lvl 1-12. There is a max % of exp you can get at any time for a quest reward and the scalps at that low a level are completely wasted. Same goes for goblin ears before lvl 20 or so. It's just not worth it to turn them in when you get the same % of exp by doing bone chips.
That said I level my chanter to 30 without killing a single monster going from bone chips > gnoll scalps > orc scalps > goblin ears. But after using over 200 ears it wasn't worth the expense anymore.
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