Question about enchanter pet XP rules

[mickmoranis]

I am pretty sure this is true but Im not 100% sure..

If you have a pet that is at 70% fighting a mob that is at 10%

can you break the pet, mez the pet, kill the mob with DD and obtain 100%xp, then re-charm your pet?

Or do you have to kill the pet or anything?

Is it as long as you dont have the pet under your control while the mob dies, does it wipe the 50% xp the pet would have taken had you just let it kill the mob?

[branamil]

Yes, breaking the pet at 10% takes your pet off the aggro table. You can kill for 100% xp. Your pet does not have to be dead. Best strategy for xp.

[Tecmos Deception]

I've wondered about stuff like this:

I'm fighting 3 mobs at once. I have one charmed, two enemies rooted beating on it. If I break charm with pet at 3%, root it, charm one of the other two to get it fighting the third mob, then finish off my former pet with a nuke... will I get full xp? My current pet did more damage to my former pet than I do, but was just an NPC at the time it did that damage.

[thebutthat]

Any time a charm breaks, it's a full reset on the xp count to my understanding. So if your pet as at 3%, you need to do 1.6% to get full xp.

[Maner]

I've wondered about stuff like this:

I'm fighting 3 mobs at once. I have one charmed, two enemies rooted beating on it. If I break charm with pet at 3%, root it, charm one of the other two to get it fighting the third mob, then finish off my former pet with a nuke... will I get full xp? My current pet did more damage to my former pet than I do, but was just an NPC at the time it did that damage.

No, because you have a pet. Need to kill the mobs without a pet to get 100% credit

[thebutthat]

No, because you have a pet. Need to kill the mobs without a pet to get 100% credit

This is nonsense. Why would you even post this?

[mickmoranis]

I've wondered about stuff like this:

I'm fighting 3 mobs at once. I have one charmed, two enemies rooted beating on it. If I break charm with pet at 3%, root it, charm one of the other two to get it fighting the third mob, then finish off my former pet with a nuke... will I get full xp? My current pet did more damage to my former pet than I do, but was just an NPC at the time it did that damage.

Totally, Im always wondering like, "if I scratch my head top wise, and spin around, does this still count?"

It sounds like so long as you break the charm, it wipes all the history, which is great news.

Something I think we all assumed to be true, but its like, we are all assuming here heh, its nice to get some validation.

[Canelek]

Usually when I have more than 3 to deal with at once (including pet), I am just happy not to make a fuckery of the whole thing. But yes, I believe it is a full reset with every charm break.

[thebutthat]

I remember around 20, charming a crag spider, run it to the roaming qeynos guard and let him get it down to 10%, charm it, nuke it once, get 2% which is what I would get per kill any other means of soloing.

[Darkatar]

It sounds like so long as you break the charm, it wipes all the history, which is great news.


Correct, also, charming itself also resets the dmg "history" Mechanically identical to a memblur (as far as credit is concerned)

EX: mob1 is attacking mob2(faction war, guards, whatever), both mobs have done 60% to the other (each mob has 40% remaining)

The moment you charm either mob, both damage tables are reset, requiring 21% dmg from the PC to get full xp (neither has hurt either, as far as XP is concerned)

Side note edit : It's worth noting this "nobody's damage" is the same as damage done by a DS.

[mickmoranis]

So, this is obvious, but I have to ask so I can hear some validation.

If i have a pet, It melees a mob.

I break charm.

I RE charm.

DD the mob, it dies.

Do I get full exp even though I have the same pet as a pet again, after breaking and re-charming?

[Polixa]

How does mob regen factor into the calculations?

If mob starts with 1000 hp, and regens 100 during the right, do you need 501 or 551 to outdamage the pet?

[Darkatar]

So, this is obvious, but I have to ask so I can hear some validation.

If i have a pet, It melees a mob.

I break charm.

I RE charm.

DD the mob, it dies.

Do I get full exp even though I have the same pet as a pet again, after breaking and re-charming?

Yes

How does mob regen factor into the calculations?

If mob starts with 1000 hp, and regens 100 during the right, do you need 501 or 551 to outdamage the pet?

I'm fairly sure it's 551. I really can't provide evidence, but I know when I've nuked mobs down for noobs that were letting their mobs heal a bunch of times, I'd often NOT ks them even though my nukes would do 130%+ to the mob.

[Maner]

This is nonsense. Why would you even post this?

Go try it. Break charm at 10% and then Charm something different, it will still eat 50% of the exp...

Why would you post false information?

[mickmoranis]

Yes

http://i.imgur.com/AznJ5mh.gif

[branamil]

Go try it. Break charm at 10% and then Charm something different, it will still eat 50% of the exp...

Why would you post false information?

Not if the new pet didn't do any damage.

[thebutthat]

Go try it. Break charm at 10% and then Charm something different, it will still eat 50% of the exp...

Why would you post false information?

If you break charm at 10%, recharm something else, and do at least 5.1% dmg, you will receive full xp. I've exploited this on three characters now (51 enchanter, 54 bard, and 60 necro). I'm 100% confident you are just blowing smoke right now.

[mickmoranis]

How do people go about testing this? measuring the blue bar when things die?

[thebutthat]

How do people go about testing this? measuring the blue bar when things die?

Duxa UI has a % bar instead of blue bars, so you can see your % per kill. Doesn't really work after 51, since it takes multiple mobs to get 1 %, but pre 51, outside of hell levels, it's pretty easy to measure.

[mickmoranis]

oh yea, for some reason I boycott using dexa UI heh

[Priceline]

charm break = mob that was being damaged now is considered at 100% health, if you had done no damage to it yourself while charmed pet was beating on it then you (not a new pet) have to do 51% of that mobs current health to get full exp.

simple