Lets make TL boxes break on damage

[Edgat]

Wizards being able to gate and get up a TL box to another zone before their epic shield breaks is ruining this server. Also wizards should not be able to TL themselves period.

[Swish]

Wizards don't have many HP, it's balanced.

[georgie]

CuCkEd

[Recycled Children]

Wizards are a scrub class.

[Beastagoog]

I vote restart server in classic

[Recycled Children]

I vote restart server in classic

/nod

[Tune]

they are fighting back...

this isn't fair...

[ApexNews]

http://i.imgur.com/aTGk2Ww.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

not classic. wiz have always been the premier pvp class of everquest since 99.

pass and #dealwithit

[georgie]

sorry you lost to a 2k hp wizard that has to stand still (doubling your damage) for 4.5 to cast on your 5k hp windstriker primal 10th ring ranger with sow and 350 bow range.

shits classic. moved to resolved

[Ivah]

Another crybaby ragnarok thread. Go join you obviously can't compete here.

[heartbrand]

TL ruins pvp, but removing binding in raid zones will fix 95% of the problem

[Slathar]

Project 1999 PvP
Status:Up
Players:18


yeah you can't compete here!!!!!!

[Bombs]

Wow ragnarok crying about something else. They got all kinds of rules changed already. No gm would do anything about apex mobs being pelled by out of range solo lowbies till it happened to rag. Now its TL boxes are ruining the game. If you are worried about server population then get with your guild. Everytime Apex stops you from raiding 35 of your 45 log off and don't play.

#crymoreragnarok

[Kirban]

I'm betting that if we decided to lvl up 20 monks to fight with TStaffs we'd be seeing posts how losing control of your character for 10 secs is overpowered and needs to be nerfed. I'd say Windstriker's but since OP is a Ranger.. guessing he doesn't think that overpowered.

PS: No wizards were bound in Kael yesterday. (For Checkraise)

[Deillon]

TL ruins pvp, but removing binding in raid zones will fix 95% of the problem

you're aware you can TL to other places than you're bind point right ?

[blammo]

OP is a massive faggot

[shokar]

you're aware you can TL to other places than you're bind point right ?

think u missed his point

[Deillon]

think u missed his point

have zoned into ToV multiple times and gotten a TL box up either before melee train gets on me or after I juke them. Fail to see how bind affinity not working in raid zones would solve his problem and allow him to raid uncontested

[Kirban]

think u missed his point

What about mine?

TL ruins pvp, but removing binding in raid zones will fix 95% of the problem
.. No wizards were bound in Kael yesterday..

[heartbrand]

you're aware you can TL to other places than you're bind point right ?

It's easy to spam TL's when you're non-classically bound on top of area's in raid zones that you can't be attacked easily. It's much harder to zone into PvP and then get a TL box off and then PvP. If someone let's a wiz zone into Kael and pop a TL box off and get involved in the fight, so be it. But people being bound in BS places in ToV which is not classic is BS.

[Deillon]

It's easy to spam TL's when you're non-classically bound on top of area's in raid zones that you can't be attacked easily. It's much harder to zone into PvP and then get a TL box off and then PvP. If someone let's a wiz zone into Kael and pop a TL box off and get involved in the fight, so be it. But people being bound in BS places in ToV which is not classic is BS.

everytime I'm referring to I've zoned into ToV the traditional way.

[heartbrand]

If someone zones in and pops off a TL then enters PvP, so be it in my book.

[KEWLGET]

everquest is an unfixable, shitty game

[beta]

There is always a way

[Buhbuh]

Naw it's fixable

What other suggestions oddly contingent on your recent experiences with Apex, current raid force, and play time do you have for us?

[Slathar]

Whatever happens, I'll never quit until my goal of reducing the box to a population of zero is complete.

[Bombs]

It's easy to spam TL's when you're non-classically bound on top of area's in raid zones that you can't be attacked easily. It's much harder to zone into PvP and then get a TL box off and then PvP. If someone let's a wiz zone into Kael and pop a TL box off and get involved in the fight, so be it. But people being bound in BS places in ToV which is not classic is BS.

So your real problem is the class you play cannot get attack the people who bound in strategic places allowing them have full use of their class. You expect people to let you beat on them give you the advantage.

[Sheriff]

So your real problem is the class you play cannot get attack the people who bound in strategic places allowing them have full use of their class. You expect people to let you beat on them give you the advantage.

A+ on your reading comprehension. In summary, he's mad.

[Nirgon]

Monks get godly hp/resist/Regen/ac/FD/unresistable long stun proc and facesmasher+disc

Wizard gets unresistable nuke and TL box

Seems fine

Ragnarok coming back is like "TMO" coming here. They didnt bring what they used to have (Colgate for instance, a true gladiator). Good effort so far tho.

[Kirban]

Naw it's fixable

What other suggestions oddly contingent on your recent experiences with Apex, current raid force, and play time do you have for us?

I LOLed

So your real problem is the class you play cannot get attack the people who bound in strategic places allowing them have full use of their class. You expect people to let you beat on them give you the advantage.

Then I LOLed some more!

[Ivah]

This thread screams of low t males bitching

[heartbrand]

Monks get godly hp/resist/Regen/ac/FD/unresistable long stun proc and facesmasher+disc

Wizard gets unresistable nuke and TL box

Seems fine

Ragnarok coming back is like "TMO" coming here. They didnt bring what they used to have (Colgate for instance, a true gladiator). Good effort so far tho.

So so-called classic Nirgon is in support of non-classic bind spots?

[Nirgon]

Where did I mention bind spots

Don't get me started on the non classic stuff because no one wants to hear it

[KEWLGET]

wasn't apex crying to suspend people like 3 weeks ago about them being bound on top of objects/ledges in ToV because it was "inaccessible" and "unfair"

eq is not a fixable game; there are so many glaring game design flaws that create nonstop whining from every side

plus there are all the unstoppable client hacks/exploits like freeport vision, duke tunnels, etc.

EQ loads assets on zoning

you cannot fix it

you either accept it for what it is and git gud or move onto games that aren't retardedly broken with horrible communities full of drug addicts and those with personality disorders

i would suggest the latter

[heartbrand]

Problem:

Players can currently bind in Velious INDOOR dungeons. This is not a classic mechanic.

Binding Guide 2001 (http://web.archive.org/web/20011217064415/http://eqatlas.com/bindguide.html)



Basically what we have right now is an issue where Velious is allowing players to bind themselves anywhere they want (except Kael, which has restrictions on binding outside of entrance areas). Players should only be able to bind in outdoor zones or in cities. However currently players on P99 can bind in indoor dungeons.

This is not classic and it poses an enormous balance issue. Indoor Velious dungeons should not allow players to bind in, caster or Melee with Locket. This means people on P99 can incorrectly bind in:


Tower of Frozen Shadow
Crystal Caverns
Velketor's Labryinth
Dragon Necropolis
Temple of Veeshan
Sleeper's Tomb


For the lower level zones this doesn't present too much of a balance concern. However in Velks, DN, ToV and ST you are able to do some ridiculous trains and pulls that weren't remotely possible in classic via using monks binding with lockets, Necros FDed with non-aggroed pets, instant gate potions and TL boxes. You can bind mages in safe spots in ToV or Velks or DN and gate to instantly set up CotH chains as well.

There is no evidence to suggest you could ever bind in any of these indoor Kunark or Velious zones. All posts about bind spots from classic refer to "behind Sontalak at ToV" or "outside of Sebilis". No one was binding inside these Kunark/Velious dungeons because it wasn't possible, and never has been on Live. Even today you cannot bind characters in these high end dungeons.

Evidence:

Halls of Testing Guide (http://www.monkly-business.net/index.php?pageid=Veeshan)



EQClerics 2001 Bind Talk (http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3192&highlight=Bind+Velious)









EQClerics HoT Guide 2001 (http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10868&highlight=Sontalak+Bind)



Allakhazam Zone Comments (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=116&p=2#comments)





I'll dig for more but everything here points to suggesting you could not bind inside. There isn't any reason everyone would bind outside when Sontalak could be trained on them when instead they could bind inside ToV in the safe entry room.

Indoor Kunark/Velious dungeons should all be flagged NO bind.

Solution:


Any player with a bind location in one of the above zones should have their bind location reset to East Commonlands (or some default safe zone).
Prevent any player from binding in these zones in the future.

[georgie]

Stopped half way when it was clear his lack of evidence was his evidence.

[Bombs]

#crymoreragnarok

Btw how did vindi go last night? sucks not even being able to kill vindi

[Kirban]

Georgie - I think Checkraise is quoting some other guy from 2015.

So, it's been this way for a while. Now it's a problem? Wonder why this wasn't being addressed when people were binding in ToV to help pulling.

Although.. I think if it was changed like that guy recommended no one would do NToV past Aary.

[georgie]

Evidence: a cleric bound outside behind sontalak, this must mean you can't bind inside. Not only were things not done optimally every first go around. But for the sole reason so you re not stuck in ToV really sells it for me

[KEWLGET]

Georgie - I think Checkraise is quoting some other guy from 2015.

So, it's been this way for a while. Now it's a problem? Wonder why this wasn't being addressed when people were binding in ToV to help pulling.

Although.. I think if it was changed like that guy recommended no one would do NToV past Aary.

why? our first month or two inside ToV on red99 was done via crawling from dragon lair to dragon lair and we cleared the entire zone multiple times, including vulak

[heartbrand]

why? our first month or two inside ToV on red99 was done via crawling from dragon lair to dragon lair and we cleared the entire zone multiple times, including vulak

[Kirban]

why? our first month or two inside ToV on red99 was done via crawling from dragon lair to dragon lair and we cleared the entire zone multiple times, including vulak

Yes. With 80+?

And it took quite a bit longer than the way most guilds pull it now days.

[Bombs]

Checkraise better ask gong if he wants no binding in TOV. Gong spent good money on his locket to bind in there and pull mobs. Checkraise might be getting a loot diet...

[KEWLGET]

Yes. With 80+?

And it took quite a bit longer than the way most guilds pull it now days.

i would estimate only like 30-40 of those 80 actually contributed and that having that many people only slowed us down

[georgie]

OP is a massive faggot

Lold

[Beastagoog]

just reroll server back to classic, really the only viable solution to any, and all of red99's problems.

[Beastagoog]

why? our first month or two inside ToV on red99 was done via crawling from dragon lair to dragon lair and we cleared the entire zone multiple times, including vulak

they were fun days till it went into rotation/raid status, argh velious is a bad raid expansion.

[heartbrand]

Checkraise better ask gong if he wants no binding in TOV. Gong spent good money on his locket to bind in there and pull mobs. Checkraise might be getting a loot diet...

Lol aimchat and loot diet in same sentence

[Buhbuh]

you either accept it for what it is and git gud or move onto games that aren't retardedly broken with horrible communities full of drug addicts and those with personality disorders

i would suggest the latter

i would direct you to your own post history, where you still post all across every forum - red, blue or otherwise - all the time, correcting people you don't know on their faulty information or skewering random people for not knowing the information that you have and can lord over them about any given EQ subject. keep in mind this is all after having quit the game 2 years ago.



personality disorders

[nyclin]

try red today, a healthy community for a healthy server

[Bombs]

Lol aimchat and loot diet in same sentence

Good to hear loot is done fairly in <Ragnarok>

[Deillon]

Good to hear loot is done fairly in <Ragnarok>

need to slay mobs to get loot, not much of that happening lately

[Nirgon]

I was bound behind the Velks zoneline for quite a while during Velious. They did take away the ability to do it and I don't think they changed any existing binds if you were bound there.

If they are using that in TL box warfare then it's fine by my record.

[georgie]

I was bound behind the Velks zoneline for quite a while during Velious. They did take away the ability to do it and I don't think they changed any existing binds if you were bound there.

If they are using that in TL box warfare then it's fine by my record.
Thx man

[KEWLGET]

i would direct you to your own post history, where you still post all across every forum - red, blue or otherwise - all the time, correcting people you don't know on their faulty information or skewering random people for not knowing the information that you have and can lord over them about any given EQ subject. keep in mind this is all after having quit the game 2 years ago.

i have never denied the assertion that i'm a sociopath

i enjoy everquest for the outlet of grief that it provides, have always felt and expressed that it has massive design flaws, and have always enjoyed the forums far more than the game itself because it's a very low time investment for equal or more grief

sorry if you take it personally; i can understand the frustration when someone belittles your livelihood

[Kirban]

I was bound behind the Velks zoneline for quite a while during Velious. They did take away the ability to do it and I don't think they changed any existing binds if you were bound there.

If they are using that in TL box warfare then it's fine by my record.

On live they eventually made it so you couldn't bind up by Agnarr BUT.. they didn't change any binds because it was "grandfathered" in. I think much like the TD pots bind.

[branamil]

Let's be honest if t wasn't this you would whine about something else. Everquest is retardedly broken with horrible communities full of drug addicts and those with personality disorders

[Nirgon]

On live they eventually made it so you couldn't bind up by Agnarr BUT.. they didn't change any binds because it was "grandfathered" in. I think much like the TD pots bind.

I do clearly recall telling someone I was bound behind ZL in Velks and when they tried it wouldn't work. Not sure when that date took hold, it wouldn't have been later than a few months into Luclin as that's when I went to Stormhammer on an SK.

And you're welcome Georgie.

[blammo]

lol'd at that cringy Cyren post what a fucking loser

[Nirgon]

The pixels have gotten to him but he ain't the worst by a long shot

[Slathar]

lol'd at that cringy Cyren post what a fucking loser

don't worry, one day his investment in this server will pay off. perhaps he can sell enough items to break into the fabled four-figure a year income bracket.

doubtful though.

[Buhbuh]

Are you quoting yourself and responding to it

[Slathar]

lol stupid lemming

[Utanven]

Hey somthing we have been doing for a year+ now isn't benefitting us anymore...

Let's cry and try to change the rules...

Wipe your nose, recruit and contest

Cya tonight (if your guild even logs on)

[Slathar]

Hey somthing we have been doing for a year+ now isn't benefitting us anymore...

Let's cry and try to change the rules...

Wipe your nose, recruit and contest

Cya tonight (if your guild even logs on)

Utanven
Kills: 0
Deaths: 2

[Tune]

this thread is great

lapping up these tears like a thirsty COP DOG

[Slathar]

one day the investment here will pay off

[beta]

one day the investment here will pay off

who are you?

[Samsung]

Wizards being able to gate and get up a TL box to another zone before their epic shield breaks is ruining this server. Also wizards should not be able to TL themselves period.

shut the fuck up

[Symbioticforks]

You know all the Wizard mains in <Ragnarok> also voted NO.

Suddenly this is an issue again.. hahahaha

[SamwiseRed]

Drugs in 2017. Lel