Necro factions to preserve while leveling?

[aGenda]

This question is mostly for classic and kunark era. Are there any areas a necro ought to avoid while leveling that would cause faction related issues when trying to quest later (aside from killing your own starting city factions)?

For example, it is convenient for a new gnome necro to xp in crushbone, which will lower neriak guard factions, but does that matter? You could still invis to the bank or spell vendors if you needed to go to neriak? I know part of the necro epic involves handing in an item to a dark elf npc but not sure if it would be on that faction or not.

Also if you worship Cazic and then kill Cazic in PoF does that screw anything up?

[Philaw]

In EQ we kill the gods we love for phat lootz

[Jimjam]

You kill them, you become them.

[Spyder73]

1) If you have made a non-Iskar necro you need yo re-roll immediately

2) Necros are f#cked on faction with everyone anyways - just embrace it and kill everything - you are walking death

[loramin]

1) If you have made a non-Iskar necro you need yo re-roll immediately

If this is a character you plan to keep playing a lot at level 60. Why? Because if you pick a non-Iksar then when you get to 60 you'll be equal in power to all level 60 Necromancers of any other race ... except that all of the Iksar necromancers will have a very useful racial regen power that you don't have (and the only way to fix that will be to re-roll as an Iksar).

But if you're not sure you'll ever get to 60, you understand why the Iksar regeneration is so helpful (it combines well with your Lich spell line, particularly from 50+ when the regen improves), and you'd still rather have a 40 Gnome Necromancer than a 33 Iksar Necromancer, by all means ignore the power-game-optimization advice and play what you want.

[Squabbles123]

1) If you have made a non-Iskar necro you need yo re-roll immediately

2) Necros are f#cked on faction with everyone anyways - just embrace it and kill everything - you are walking death

1: Not everyone likes or cares to min/max. I actually avoid it on purpose as its just more fun for me. I'm going out of my way to roll characters that aren't min/max like that, I'm not gonna raid here, so I'm mostly just leveling up and messing around. So if he wants to keep his gnome, I think he should! You don't HAVE to use an Iksar, it just makes life a little easier.

[Spyder73]

Iskar and Necro is the only class combo where I think you are foolish if you ignore it. Literally any other class/race combination I can get get behind. For example I made my monk Human and he is level 60 and I am happy with my choice still.

[thebutthat]

Non-iksar necro here. Its fine. You'll need to vex or life tap a little sooner. There is zero content a 60 iksar necro does that non iksar cannot.

As for faction...buy all your OT spells before your KoS from hunting in kaesora, kc, and howling stones. Other than that...it's only for convenience.

[Truheart]

still digging my human necromancer, ha

[Maner]

Iskar and Necro is the only class combo where I think you are foolish if you ignore it. Literally any other class/race combination I can get get behind. For example I made my monk Human and he is level 60 and I am happy with my choice still.

As a 60 human necro who picked that combo as his first toon on p99, I have zero regrets. Screw the exp penalty if it's your first character. Get to 60 fast and then start farming to fund alts down the line. Or just take 150% longer to hit 60, so you have a little extra regen, that honestly isn't game breaking in any way. The BoB necro on the server is a gnome, who solos dragons in WW. There is nothing being a iksar gets you as a necro that is so huge you are going to regret rolling another race.

[Squabbles123]

Iskar and Necro is the only class combo where I think you are foolish if you ignore it. Literally any other class/race combination I can get get behind. For example I made my monk Human and he is level 60 and I am happy with my choice still.

That amusing to me, because IMO its Iksar Monk thats the main "obviously this is WAY better" selection out there, and only because its a melee only class, so ANY extra ability (in this case, regen) tips the scales really heavily.

Just like if I was gonna make a Warrior, the ONLY race I'd ever choose is Troll, for the same reasons as Iksar Monk.

When you have access to magic, like every other class beyond those two and rogue, it matters much less which race you pick, as your spells are the main factor. When it comes to melee ONLY, any other factors mean so much more to them.

I tried to talk myself into a Human Monk for awhile, after seeing a lot of them running around, I decided screw it and that I would go female Iksar (as it more rare than Human Monk any gender), when I finally DO roll my monk some day.

[Sorn]

For example, it is convenient for a new gnome necro to xp in crushbone, which will lower neriak guard factions, but does that matter? You could still invis to the bank or spell vendors if you needed to go to neriak? I know part of the necro epic involves handing in an item to a dark elf npc but not sure if it would be on that faction or not.

Killing in CB lowers Indigo Brotherhood, the DE warrior guild. Unless you're a DE warrior who needs to get into your guild to train, it doesn't really matter unless you're into RP.

I'm afraid you'll have to be more specific regarding which factions for a proper answer.

[b_rob242]

As a DEF who was lured to CB before he knew about faction issues, I'm still welcomed in Neriak by guards, merchants and maidens alike, save the Warrior guild master as Sorn posted above. That includes all the way down to the 3rd Gate and into The Cleric and Necromancer guildhalls. CB orcs are on Indigo Brotherhood faction. Most of the rest of Neriak is The Dead, Dark Bargainers or Dreadguard Inner (outer for Exterior guards in Nektulos Forest).

[GinnasP99]

1) If you have made a non-Iskar necro you need yo re-roll immediately

Nah
http://i.imgur.com/fCwvtzj.jpg

[Sirken]

Iksar necros are min/max hipster trash. Gnome necro is the best and only necro worth playing.

actually.. gnome anything > all

[Necrostoner]

Iksar necros are min/max hipster trash. Gnome necro is the best and only necro worth playing.

actually.. gnome anything > all

I'm about to bash you for that opinion. Can I get banned for that too?

You have a terrible opinion.

DE FTW

Consider yourself bashed Ho-bag.

[Necrostoner]

I do have a Gnome wizard. Thats the way to go. Gnome anything else is for Ho-bags.

[Jimjam]

Iksar necros are min/max hipster trash. Gnome necro is the best and only necro worth playing.

actually.. gnome anything > all

Can you put a level 1 gnome monk on to one of my accounts please?

Preferred name: Skatergnome!

I'd even take it on red if that is how it has to be.

[Baler]

You kill them, you become them.

Necromongers - You keep what you kill.

[Nuggie]

@OP

Don't kill your minions of scale(kunark wyverns, wurms, etc), sirens grotto, velketor himself(killing his minions is ok, no faction hit), or chetari(most of the DN micemen).

Also get your thurg robe before you go pro giant, in velious.

keeping these allows you to be a helpful puller with certain illusions and the faction clickie neck

being kos in outpost isnt too big of a deal, you can still FD outside the bank and use bank. You dont want to sell things in outpost as they are half-off merchants. meaning they buy from you for half what other merchants do. Like was mentioned by a previous poster, once you get your spells purchased and banked you can thrash that faction.

[Maner]

@OP

Don't kill your minions of scale(kunark wyverns, wurms, etc), sirens grotto, velketor himself(killing his minions is ok, no faction hit), or chetari(most of the DN micemen).

Also get your thurg robe before you go pro giant, in velious.

keeping these allows you to be a helpful puller with certain illusions and the faction clickie neck

being kos in outpost isnt too big of a deal, you can still FD outside the bank and use bank. You dont want to sell things in outpost as they are half-off merchants. meaning they buy from you for half what other merchants do. Like was mentioned by a previous poster, once you get your spells purchased and banked you can thrash that faction.

You can illusion to not being kos in velks as a necro?

[jackd104]

Dark elf Necro and love it. I wouldn't be any other race. I don't care about min max and never have. theres a lot more than math to this game. it doesn't make a crucial difference as a Necro of any other race at equal level can hunt in the same place that an iksar can and do just as well. Necros get SO many hit points flying into them it hardly matters. I wouldn't play a race I dislike, start in a place I dislike, for slightly more efficiency in mana getting.

So mr. gnomey necro, carry on.

[Izmael]

You can illusion to not being kos in velks as a necro?

No because you dont have a way to turn into a werewolf (not to mention that the only faction spell available to you as a necro is Alliance, which is less powerful than Collaboration, which is required).

[Strifer]

Iksar necros are min/max hipster trash. Gnome necro is the best and only necro worth playing.

actually.. gnome anything > all

Been killing it on a gnome rogue. No ragerts

[Maner]

No because you dont have a way to turn into a werewolf (not to mention that the only faction spell available to you as a necro is Alliance, which is less powerful than Collaboration, which is required).

Apparently Omni thinks it's possible

[Floraline]

Never heard about the WW illusion working to make you non kos in Velks. Is this for dogs only or all Velks inhabitants? Just wondering if my chanter could wander around in there without getting aggro with that illusion?