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tnttoken
05-16-2017, 03:13 PM
Why play here when all of kunark and some lower velious stuff is free for the taking on Red99? Who knows, in time maybe you can fight for velious content too.

A group of 50+ people could come take a massive chunk of Red99 server... Just saying

Spyder73
05-16-2017, 03:18 PM
That way I could stand in EC tunnel (alone) and show off all my dragon loot (to no one)

Sounds amazing

branamil
05-16-2017, 03:19 PM
Because I don't want to level in empty zones aside from the occasional de-leveled epic rouge to grief me while I try to turn in lightstones

Sage Truthbearer
05-16-2017, 03:19 PM
Nobody is tempted by the idea of farming items uncontested on an empty, dead server.

rollin5k
05-16-2017, 03:36 PM
It's hard enough to play everquest with other people and not feel like a loser why make it harder by playing by yourself

mickmoranis
05-16-2017, 03:53 PM
id rather sit outside an exp group and wait for most of my play time than play ever quest.

Qtip
05-16-2017, 04:21 PM
Because I don't want to level in empty zones aside from the occasional de-leveled epic rouge to grief me while I try to turn in lightstones

There's no point to play red unless you want to be corpse camped by a deleveled rog/war/monk. Beware if you try red and decide to waste a month of your life only to quit.

Rivera
05-16-2017, 04:27 PM
If I could trade gear from blue for gear on red I would. Or copy the toon over even better.

The pop would probably get massive numbers then.

Canelek
05-16-2017, 04:51 PM
Everquest PVP was always and still is a half-baked novelty.

aaezil
05-16-2017, 04:53 PM
Nobody is tempted by the idea of farming items uncontested on an empty, dead server.

Phenyo
05-16-2017, 04:54 PM
Nobody is tempted by the idea of farming items uncontested on an empty, dead server.

shuklak
05-16-2017, 05:28 PM
Better yet try agnarr. Then you can beat velious and actually group.

fadetree
05-17-2017, 07:56 AM
this is the thread that never ends
it just goes round and round again
and when you get to the end of it

red still sucks and is empty.


Please don't reply to these stupid ass "play red" threads.

Lhancelot
05-17-2017, 08:25 AM
I played nothing but PVP on live, years ago.

The reasons I only got to lvl 14-15 on Red years ago when I first started on p99:

1. I found the chat awkward, I didn't understand the global chat, etc. To this day I can't recall exactly how it works, I just remember trying to communicate when I first logged in, and i couldn't do so easily with anyone.

2. I found the population so tiny that I felt alone most of the time. I got to lvl 14-15, and just had no ambition to level past that.


I can't speak on awful deleveled toons CCing people, because when I first started on Red the server was fairly new, I don't think there was any of that going on.

I started on Blue, and found the PVE more engaging than newer MMOs, and I also learned very quickly that most PVE content I never really enjoyed much as a PVPer because back then I only logged in to kill people and log out.

I did not explore the world of EQ, which is what I do now. I make tons of alts, like to dungeon crawl and see things I never seen before when I was younger and only cared about PVP.

I also find the population is plentiful on Blue, maybe too plentiful at times, but it adds a social aspect that Red does not.

I suspect the PVP environment is really bad on Red, seeing how most of them interact with eachother on the forums, as if they are still 15 year old online bullies with such silly juvenile shit talk.

I just have no interest in that kind of atmosphere, so here I am on Blue.

shuklak
05-17-2017, 09:28 PM
May 17, 2017
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*** Items ***


- In classic zones (Velious and earlier), many weapons, shields, and other held items have reverted to their classic appearance.

Baler
05-17-2017, 09:32 PM
Why play P99?

Because it's the best private eq server. <3

Jmcwrestling
05-17-2017, 09:55 PM
I would love to play red , but I think what holds me back is that I would want to play with friends and I really don't think I can convince anyone to play there. If someone was interested in a static group playing once or twice a week, I think I could give a better effort.

I think it's just hard to go to another server and be in rags when you're established on blue is all. On the flips idea though, there's nothing more freeing than to know you have the opportunity for a fresh start :)

shuklak
05-17-2017, 10:08 PM
I would love to play red , but I think what holds me back is that I would want to play with friends and I really don't think I can convince anyone to play there. If someone was interested in a static group playing once or twice a week, I think I could give a better effort.

I think it's just hard to go to another server and be in rags when you're established on blue is all. On the flips idea though, there's nothing more freeing than to know you have the opportunity for a fresh start :)
Red would be the antithesis of fresh. Youre going to see deleveled twinks grief you in rags.

If you want fresh, Agnarr starts may 24 - one week today.

Jmcwrestling
05-17-2017, 11:10 PM
Well what doesn't kill you , makes you stronger and I respawn every time , so lesssss do the damn thing !

9 DE warrior lfg !

Qtip
05-17-2017, 11:36 PM
Red would be the antithesis of fresh. Youre going to see deleveled twinks grief you in rags.

If you want fresh, Agnarr starts may 24 - one week today.

LOL

Swish
05-17-2017, 11:38 PM
Red would be the antithesis of fresh. Youre going to see deleveled twinks grief you in rags.

Are you? What zone did this happen to you in? What was his name? I think you've been reading fairy tales on the forums and accepting them as facts.

fan D
05-18-2017, 12:04 AM
I played blue for years, everyday, then I started to realize how so many items and spells in the game have no use in PVE, on a blue server. So many classes and abilities had zero use. Half of the stats don't matter, you don't need resists. They do not matter. All you need is hp and strength, and wis/int.

I tried red, and I saw there was a reason to get items. You can actually use them on other players. On blue, the only reason to get loot is to sit in EC tunnel afk. All of the content was cleared on day one, so getting new items doesn't help your guild progress. And if you enjoy the raiding scene on blue you have something wrong with you

playing with 20 people on red is a hundred times more fun than blue

Fifield
05-18-2017, 12:48 AM
There's no point to play red unless you want to be corpse camped by a deleveled rog/war/monk. Beware if you try red and decide to waste a month of your life only to quit.

never for a second considered EQ PVP. ew

loramin
05-18-2017, 11:58 AM
I played blue for years, everyday, then I started to realize how so many items and spells in the game have no use in PVE, on a blue server. So many classes and abilities had zero use. Half of the stats don't matter, you don't need resists. They do not matter. All you need is hp and strength, and wis/int.

I tried red, and I saw there was a reason to get items. You can actually use them on other players. On blue, the only reason to get loot is to sit in EC tunnel afk.

See, this is what makes me so sad about Red. Was PvP in EverQuest an afterthought? Of course. But it does have it's own unique aspects, and they really do add extra layers to the game. When I read a post like that it reminds me how much I'd love to play on Red ...

... until I remember the last time I tried and got griefed off the server. Here's hoping teams/discord server actually gets released someday so I can appreciate firsthand what fan D is talking about.

Squabbles123
05-18-2017, 12:12 PM
I played blue for years, everyday, then I started to realize how so many items and spells in the game have no use in PVE, on a blue server. So many classes and abilities had zero use. Half of the stats don't matter, you don't need resists. They do not matter. All you need is hp and strength, and wis/int.

I tried red, and I saw there was a reason to get items. You can actually use them on other players. On blue, the only reason to get loot is to sit in EC tunnel afk. All of the content was cleared on day one, so getting new items doesn't help your guild progress. And if you enjoy the raiding scene on blue you have something wrong with you

playing with 20 people on red is a hundred times more fun than blue

All the content was cleared on Red "Day 1" as well (and both of those are bullshit statements, it took a few weeks/months for any content to get cleared on the server).

There are casting mobs in this game, so resists can help against them, they aren't totally useless. Just because people often avoid casters to make life easier on themselves does not mean they don't exist and that resistance spells don't improve your fight against them. It it REQUIRED? No, no buffs are required, but it makes life easier doesn't it?

The only stat in the game with little to no meaning is AGILITY, as long as its over 75. Every other stat IS important for something.

Once you're 55+ and you can finally PvP...whats the point? So you can loot some copper off the corpse? Is rooting/blinding/melee dancing really that exciting to you? How is rooting...lets say a Warrior, and nuking them to death, ANY different than doing that same thing to a Mob? I see no difference. PvP just comes down to who attacks first and who has more MR. Its not some super skill game of cat and mouse...its, "did my root land? did my blindness land?".

I'd rather chat with hundreds of different people who have a 99% chance to buff and help me at any moment then just 20, half of which want to kill you in the most damaging way possible.

EQ PvP is terrible.

Swish
05-18-2017, 12:25 PM
All the content was cleared on Red "Day 1" as well (and both of those are bullshit statements, it took a few weeks/months for any content to get cleared on the server).

There are casting mobs in this game, so resists can help against them, they aren't totally useless. Just because people often avoid casters to make life easier on themselves does not mean they don't exist and that resistance spells don't improve your fight against them. It it REQUIRED? No, no buffs are required, but it makes life easier doesn't it?

The only stat in the game with little to no meaning is AGILITY, as long as its over 75. Every other stat IS important for something.

Once you're 55+ and you can finally PvP...whats the point? So you can loot some copper off the corpse? Is rooting/blinding/melee dancing really that exciting to you? How is rooting...lets say a Warrior, and nuking them to death, ANY different than doing that same thing to a Mob? I see no difference. PvP just comes down to who attacks first and who has more MR. Its not some super skill game of cat and mouse...its, "did my root land? did my blindness land?".

I'd rather chat with hundreds of different people who have a 99% chance to buff and help me at any moment then just 20, half of which want to kill you in the most damaging way possible.

EQ PvP is terrible.

The same long winded depresssing statement can be made for blue server as well of course (raid scene, start lines, camp lawyering assholes that want YOUR camp, people arguing they got FTE on YOUR seafury and won't back down, level 25s in Crushbone killing all the orcs for belts to sell omg how is my level 10 character supposed to level??).

There's hundreds of people waiting to lawyer me off the server or get one up on me you guys. Have you even read the blue forums? Yikes :(

Squabbles123
05-18-2017, 12:46 PM
The same long winded depresssing statement can be made for blue server as well of course (raid scene, start lines, camp lawyering assholes that want YOUR camp, people arguing they got FTE on YOUR seafury and won't back down, level 25s in Crushbone killing all the orcs for belts to sell omg how is my level 10 character supposed to level??).

There's hundreds of people waiting to lawyer me off the server or get one up on me you guys. Have you even read the blue forums? Yikes :(

So for me:

I don't raid (at least not yet, my highest is 44), I might never raid or just raid casually a bit, I don't care about getting the HIGHEST POSSIBLE gear available, I just don't. Honestly I enjoy leveling new characters a lot, I'm going to take my main into the 50's but probably never hit 60. So this doesn't affect me.

Never had to wait in a line for anything so far, I purposefully rolled my first character that wouldn't need many "clickies" and things to be great, so...no issue here either. Lines are for people who can only play at peak times anyway, if I want something bad enough, I'll login at 4 AM to get it by myself. People waiting in line make that choice, they are not forced.

I don't camp AC as I don't need Jboots...so, never had this happen. Have yet to have ANYONE killsteal me on anything.

If a level 25 is killing orcs for belts for money, they are stupid. There are better ways to make money at 25. I do see people buying those belts 24/7 though, usually from lower level players and often that means from the new players that are showing up and maybe don't know what to do with belts yet.

The few instances I've run into a very high level in a low level area, they have WITHOUT EXCEPTION, stayed out of my camping area, did NOT hog the mobs and effectively made sure I had something to fight when I was ready, or if I hailed them and told them I wanted something specific, they have let me camp it without interference (hell, often they'll help me clear the leading rooms too). I have tons of stories I could tell that repeat this over and over, people here DO NOT SEEM AT ALL GREEDY, especially if they've been here a long time, they have what they care about, they want you to get stuff.

I know you've been tainted by Red to think everyone is a prick....but finding people who aren't friendly, helpful, and nice on Blue is actually pretty hard.

Minus some lines for popular stuff and maybe the competitive of the raid scene, there is nothing negative at all to even talk about on Blue.

Troxx
05-18-2017, 03:23 PM
Nobody is tempted by the idea of farming items uncontested on an empty, dead server.

Qtip
05-18-2017, 03:42 PM
All the content was cleared on Red "Day 1" as well (and both of those are bullshit statements, it took a few weeks/months for any content to get cleared on the server).

There are casting mobs in this game, so resists can help against them, they aren't totally useless. Just because people often avoid casters to make life easier on themselves does not mean they don't exist and that resistance spells don't improve your fight against them. It it REQUIRED? No, no buffs are required, but it makes life easier doesn't it?

The only stat in the game with little to no meaning is AGILITY, as long as its over 75. Every other stat IS important for something.

Once you're 55+ and you can finally PvP...whats the point? So you can loot some copper off the corpse? Is rooting/blinding/melee dancing really that exciting to you? How is rooting...lets say a Warrior, and nuking them to death, ANY different than doing that same thing to a Mob? I see no difference. PvP just comes down to who attacks first and who has more MR. Its not some super skill game of cat and mouse...its, "did my root land? did my blindness land?".

I'd rather chat with hundreds of different people who have a 99% chance to buff and help me at any moment then just 20, half of which want to kill you in the most damaging way possible.

EQ PvP is terrible.

You're right. Whoever lands the first root wins. Lets close this thread, the case has been solved.

Swish
05-18-2017, 10:15 PM
You're right. Whoever lands the first root wins. Lets close this thread, the case has been solved.

When I get rooted once I always just get up and make a drink, gg wp u win :(

Swish
05-18-2017, 10:19 PM
https://youtu.be/Uq_q-hioGkU

Watch for the part where the deleveled twinks all come running into Unrest, omg :(

Squabbles123
05-19-2017, 12:30 AM
https://youtu.be/Uq_q-hioGkU

Watch for the part where the deleveled twinks all come running into Unrest, omg :(

How do you get a blue name on red server?

Izmael
05-19-2017, 03:23 AM
How do you get a blue name on red server?

Name is only red if the person is in PvP range to you, ie: 4 or less levels lower/higher than you.

coldslaw
05-19-2017, 08:06 AM
https://youtu.be/Uq_q-hioGkU

Watch for the part where the deleveled twinks all come running into Unrest, omg :(

If you want to truly represent what Red is like, you need to video you sitting in Unrest with no one else in the zone.

Mytral
05-19-2017, 09:30 AM
So for me:

finding people who aren't friendly, helpful, and nice on Blue is actually pretty hard.



I agree. You have to get a toon to 55+ and interact with certain guilds before you start finding those kinds of people. But once you do, they seem to be everywhere.