Do stolen drop transfers get reimbursed?

[supermonk]

Attempted a 3 bag drop transfer earlier this afternoon in WC at a discreet spot in the lake. Once I character swapped, 2/3 bags we're missing. Anyone have experience with GMs reimbursing these type of situations for tradeable items? Or if anyone picked up these two bags (handmade backpack + box of nil space + my WC cap), can I have it back please? Maybe it poofed, who knows, but only retrieving the worst of the 3 bags has me thinking someone got the best of me.

I know..I should've asked someone to help with a transfer, but I was in a rush. this is the first time this happened to me so pretty bummed.

[fan D]

u must be slow as fuck, ive dropped transferred multiple items 50+ times and never had this happen to me

play better honestly, idk ur deal

[supermonk]

Not really. Took me less than 1m30s to get back in game. I guess that's slow in your eyes

[fiveeauxfour]

You must not have been clenching your asshole hard enough

[Pokesan]

FTE is like that, git gud

[Freakish]

If it poofed, GM's might have pity. If it got stolen, you're out of luck.

[supermonk]

If it did get stolen, someone had to have kept eyes on me because you really had to go looking for it to find it. Hoping it poofed though..

[Just facts]

The fact that you intentionally dropped em might mean you sol unless you catch the staff in a good mood.

[Swish]

This has not, does not, and would not happen on the red server. I'd appeal for you to make a better server choice rather than a server where 100s of people play the plat whore tunnel game.

Rest assured your items have probably been up in EC for 25pp off the going rate and snapped up by a tunnel fat cat. You won't see those again.

[Ivah]

This has not, does not, and would not happen on the red server. I'd appeal for you to make a better server choice rather than a server where 100s of people play the plat whore tunnel game.

Rest assured your items have probably been up in EC for 25pp off the going rate and snapped up by a tunnel fat cat. You won't see those again.
On red someone will make a thread talking shit about your stupid desicion. At east you'll know who took it. We're assholes but honest assholes.

[Jimjam]

You use loaded language.

These items are not stolen, when you drop or vendor an item it is no longer in your possession.

[RedSlave]

This has not, does not, and would not happen on the red server. I'd appeal for you to make a better server choice rather than a server where 100s of people play the plat whore tunnel game.

Rest assured your items have probably been up in EC for 25pp off the going rate and snapped up by a tunnel fat cat. You won't see those again.

Truth, there'd need to be players for someone to steal your junk.

[Zade]

OP - Plain and simple answer is no, you will not get reimbursed from a failed drop transfer. Dropping items on the ground is a risk one must be willing to take to transfer items to an alt. The most common suggestion/reply to this question is to find a trustworthy person to help with the transfer, or pay someone that offers a reputable transfer service.

[Tupakk]

OP - Plain and simple answer is no, you will not get reimbursed from a failed drop transfer. Dropping items on the ground is a risk one must be willing to take to transfer items to an alt. The most common suggestion/reply to this question is to find a trustworthy person to help with the transfer, or pay someone that offers a reputable transfer service.

Future reference you can use DaP for Transfers if you have everyone preloaded at rings. Or
Any Fatcat in the tunnels selling anything worth of value.


Never Drop transfer.

[Lojik]

This has not, does not, and would not happen on the red server. I'd appeal for you to make a better server choice rather than a server where 100s of people play the plat whore tunnel game.

Rest assured your items have probably been up in EC for 25pp off the going rate and snapped up by a tunnel fat cat. You won't see those again.

There was a thread on red chat and some dude bragged about destroying noobs wolf pelts in a bag drop transfer.

[loramin]

There was a thread on red chat and some dude bragged about destroying noobs wolf pelts in a bag drop transfer.

That's probably an old post. I'm sure what Swish meant was "This has not, does not, and would not happen on the red server" ... now that you're incredibly unlikely to even have another player in the same zone when you do the transfer.

[kuuky]

good one loramin!

On that note I am going against my fearless guild co-leader here and say I have never lost anything to a drop transfer and I have done LOTS of em. Even though you didn't pick a good spot I feel for ya OP.

[lurk]

Idk your situation but some NPCs will actually pick up stuff you drop

[loramin]

Idk your situation but some NPCs will actually pick up stuff you drop

TIL.

Do they add it to their inventory? Could OP just go nuts on every mob in the zone and eventually loot their items back?

[nyclin]

Future reference you can use DaP for Transfers if you have everyone preloaded at rings.

sorry but nobody should trust random DaP alts for transfers

find someone tagged in AM, AW, Rustle, etc - anyone in one of these guilds is going to have a lot of accountability around them

[loramin]

sorry but nobody should trust random DaP alts for transfers

Is this still a thing? I can't remember the last time I saw a "Bob stole my sword when I asked him to transfer it for me" rant and/or flame. I just assumed it was because the GMs logged all trades and brought the hammer down on anyone (guilded or not) who tried to scam.

[Tupakk]

sorry but nobody should trust random DaP alts for transfers

find someone tagged in AM, AW, Rustle, etc - anyone in one of these guilds is going to have a lot of accountability around them

All things are connected. A simple IP lookup and they will ban accounts across the ip. So saying that my guild isn't trustworthy is just rude. We pride ourselves on serving the community as much as people say they hate us we are just as viable as any other guild to do a simple transfer.

[kuuky]

As a long time member of DAP I fully endorse Tupakks' words above

[maskedmelonpai]

This has not, does not, and would not happen on the red server. I'd appeal for you to make a better server choice rather than a server where 100s of people play the plat whore tunnel game.

Rest assured your items have probably been up in EC for 25pp off the going rate and snapped up by a tunnel fat cat. You won't see those again.


lol

[aaezil]

This has not, does not, and would not happen on the red server. I'd appeal for you to make a better server choice rather than a server where 100s of people play the plat whore tunnel game.

Rest assured your items have probably been up in EC for 25pp off the going rate and snapped up by a tunnel fat cat. You won't see those again.

I'm glad that i'll never be this deranged in my life. I'll sleep so well tonight :)

[teai]

Nothing beats the rush dropping 15K+ of stuff. I got a solid state drive just to make this process faster, its addicting

[nyclin]

Is this still a thing? I can't remember the last time I saw a "Bob stole my sword when I asked him to transfer it for me" rant and/or flame. I just assumed it was because the GMs logged all trades and brought the hammer down on anyone (guilded or not) who tried to scam.

They do I'm sure, I just don't want to wait for the petition to be worked.

All things are connected. A simple IP lookup and they will ban accounts across the ip. So saying that my guild isn't trustworthy is just rude. We pride ourselves on serving the community as much as people say they hate us we are just as viable as any other guild to do a simple transfer.

VPNs, dynamic IPs, etc.. doesn't really matter anyway. Never said your guild isn't trustworthy, but the vetting process for new members definitely isn't strict. There's a much lower chance of having your stuff stolen by someone tagged in one of the established high level guilds.

[NachtMystium]

had a fungi tunic poof from a ground drop transfer due to freak internet loss after logging. was shown no remorse. it's a tough wound to lick but it puts things into perspective on how you enjoy the classic everquest experience.

[beta]

I've been reimbursed from a failed drop transfer.. It took about 3 months but I got the items back

Make a petition post see what happens

Good luck

[Tupakk]

They do I'm sure, I just don't want to wait for the petition to be worked.



VPNs, dynamic IPs, etc.. doesn't really matter anyway. Never said your guild isn't trustworthy, but the vetting process for new members definitely isn't strict. There's a much lower chance of having your stuff stolen by someone tagged in one of the established high level guilds.

Give me a solid reason why someone with an alt in my guild would have the reason to go through the hassle of setting up VPNs and such to get the chance at a one time score that could get them the boot. Use your brain. The DLL is in place for a a reason. A '14 member should know by now that it tracks us very well.

And you did say not to trust us. You wrote it, I said trustworthy for a simpler way to put your scentence into one word.

[articnv]

Peopel do trust dial for transfer i had a person ask me do a trade with them on my druid (dialanelf) 100k worth fo tiems then after i was giving them back relzied i wasnt in DaP

[Just facts]

Give me a solid reason why someone with an alt in my guild would have the reason to go through the hassle of setting up VPNs and such to get the chance at a one time score that could get them the boot. Use your brain. The DLL is in place for a a reason. A '14 member should know by now that it tracks us very well.

And you did say not to trust us. You wrote it, I said trustworthy for a simpler way to put your scentence into one word.

Think you missed the point about vpn's etc, think he meant it as a way to do your own transfers between your own chars.

[Just facts]

Peopel do trust dial for transfer i had a person ask me do a trade with them on my druid (dialanelf) 100k worth fo tiems then after i was giving them back relzied i wasnt in DaP

You have no idea how many times I cursed your name when I been looking for a dail porter.
They should tm it.

[Egilmn]

Drop transferring is done at your own risk, if you lose items in a drop transfer then it is ultimately your own fault and no one else.

Also, if only the lore cap remained then the person who picked up the other two may have had a cap already. General policy is to not reimburse lost drop transfer items, but the GM may be able to find out who picked it up at least.

[nyclin]

Give me a solid reason why someone with an alt in my guild would have the reason to go through the hassle of setting up VPNs and such to get the chance at a one time score that could get them the boot. Use your brain. The DLL is in place for a a reason. A '14 member should know by now that it tracks us very well.

And you did say not to trust us. You wrote it, I said trustworthy for a simpler way to put your scentence into one word.

without sitting here explaining the technical details of it, the memory peeking done by the DLL isn't magically all-knowing, and I don't want to wait potentially weeks to have my stuff restored if someone does decide to screw me over

it's the reality of the situation - you'll tag pretty much anyone who asks to join without any sort of vetting, and people join the guild almost exclusively for the purpose of making money by selling ports. i'm not insulting your guild, i'm pointing out the reality that a random DaP alt is only about a half-step away from any random character in the EC tunnel in terms of trustworthiness.

there are other guilds that have similar policies for inviting, and they're right there with DaP on the trust-o-meter, but they don't advertise their desire to transfer people's stuff.

sorry if I offended you but it's just the way I see things

[Triiz]

there are other guilds that have similar policies for inviting, and they're right there with DaP on the trust-o-meter, but they don't advertise their desire to transfer people's stuff.


By this do you mean literally every guild on the server? If someone doesn't already have a shitty reputation and they are 55+ they can get tagged in any raiding guild pretty much upon request. They might not be "full member" but the tag doesn't differentiate.

[tolinwiz]

By this do you mean literally every guild on the server? If someone doesn't already have a shitty reputation and they are 55+ they can get tagged in any raiding guild pretty much upon request. They might not be "full member" but the tag doesn't differentiate.

Could point out that a random level 55 has more to lose than a level 29 druid that gets insta-invited to DaP.

Not sure why this is such a point of contention.

Everyone has a level of "safety" they're comfortable with. Some people will feel safe using DaP for transfers, some won't (or any other random invite guild).

[Tupakk]

without sitting here explaining the technical details of it, the memory peeking done by the DLL isn't magically all-knowing, and I don't want to wait potentially weeks to have my stuff restored if someone does decide to screw me over

it's the reality of the situation - you'll tag pretty much anyone who asks to join without any sort of vetting, and people join the guild almost exclusively for the purpose of making money by selling ports. i'm not insulting your guild, i'm pointing out the reality that a random DaP alt is only about a half-step away from any random character in the EC tunnel in terms of trustworthiness.

there are other guilds that have similar policies for inviting, and they're right there with DaP on the trust-o-meter, but they don't advertise their desire to transfer people's stuff.

sorry if I offended you but it's just the way I see things


If you would of opened with this I would of valued your opinion a bit more from the start. Also a DaP Alt that has been in the guild for longer than a month and is 44+ has more plat than they would care to lose just FYI.

They are not going to run the risk of stealing something vs time n effort and amount of plat they have made.

So I still take offense to lumping us in with a rando standing in the tunnel looking sneaky and shady as fuck.

Plus if they steal and I find out well I hope you never have to ��.

[SantagarBrax]

don't bother petitioning, you'll never hear back from braknar about it if an item did fall to the ground and ninja'd.

True Story

[Lhancelot]

sorry but nobody should trust random DaP alts for transfers


How dare you?

Everyone knows that ALL wizards and druids are played by exquisite human beings of the most divine and loving nature, trustworthy to the point of being over-trustworthy!

You slander good folk plain and simple here, and should be placed upon a whipping stone and beaten by cattails dipped in hot sauce.

Recant, or be forever known as a blasphemer of the highest order.

[Thiefboy777]

If you would of opened with this I would of valued your opinion a bit more from the start. Also a DaP Alt that has been in the guild for longer than a month and is 44+ has more plat than they would care to lose just FYI.

They are not going to run the risk of stealing something vs time n effort and amount of plat they have made.

So I still take offense to lumping us in with a rando standing in the tunnel looking sneaky and shady as fuck.

Plus if they steal and I find out well I hope you never have to ��.

This Nyclin guy talking about who to trust, never paid Asgard for his demon fangs MQ'd monk epic. Is stealing 50k plat bannable?

[Tupakk]

This Nyclin guy talking about who to trust, never paid Asgard for his demon fangs MQ'd monk epic. Is stealing 50k plat bannable?

Ouch. And yes with proof.

[Axlrose]

I would offer to help transfer items between your characters using any of my characters. But since I am a subtle trade skill junkie, I would be fortunate enough to have something open on my cursor to even attempt such a maneuver! :o

[Vandil]

Better to make the quick trek from EC to Nek Forest and then do the drop transfer some place off the path and away from a zone wall. Plenty of places to choose from.

[fan D]

i just watched an item sit for atleast 5minutes, maybe 6minutes. i started to get bored and drifted off. items last long ass time. so.....................OP is a liar

[supermonk]

i just watched an item sit for atleast 5minutes, maybe 6minutes. i started to get bored and drifted off. items last long ass time. so.....................OP is a liar

can /end thread now since fan D's experiment deems absolute.

[username17]

I've seen GMs let you know who picked up the items. But it's not theft if you drop it on the ground and walk away. Never do a drop transfer.
Even if I was in Toxx I'd never do a drop transfer. Ask a guildie to make an erudite alt for a sec.

[NegaStoat]

Never do a drop transfer.

It's safe enough if you use some common sense and have a sneaky mind. Well, that and a fast connection and fast load times. I only had an issue once when starting on the server and that was my own fault for not thinking through the qualities of what makes a hidden spot good.

I will admit that I've scored over 70k+ plat from someone doing a ground transfer in a really BAD place in EC zone. I wasn't even tracking someone - I was just cruising along the wall on my way to WC and then Kithcore when I saw the bag graphic just sitting there. Yoink, and off I went. And no, it wasn't a Fungi.

[Rygar]

I think an officer of ours dropped a Slime Blood of Cazic Thule on the ground during a HoT raid once and had been sitting there a while (most thinking it was fishing grubs). Luckily someone picked it up and came clean announcing it in guild chat, was some funny name and shame that day!

Doubting it would have been reimbursed if poofed or stolen though.

[fadetree]

It's safe enough if you use some common sense and have a sneaky mind. Well, that and a fast connection and fast load times. I only had an issue once when starting on the server and that was my own fault for not thinking through the qualities of what makes a hidden spot good.

I will admit that I've scored over 70k+ plat from someone doing a ground transfer in a really BAD place in EC zone. I wasn't even tracking someone - I was just cruising along the wall on my way to WC and then Kithcore when I saw the bag graphic just sitting there. Yoink, and off I went. And no, it wasn't a Fungi.

Like, recently? Or when you were like 12 playing live back in the day. If recently, then wow...you suck.