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pijan
04-23-2017, 05:07 PM
What are some good weapons to give a charmed pet if you're duo/grouped as an enchanter?

Darkatar
04-23-2017, 07:11 PM
Journeyman's tash sticks (mana saver)
Mithril 2h (wornhaste),
Jumpy robe (wornhaste, leaves a weapon slot open for better weapons),
Steel hilted flint dagger (large DD proc),
Anything with -MR on it (rusty spiked shoulderpads, ada rings) (there's a book/weapon with -MR but the name escapes me)
Locustlure (slow proc, mana saver)
Anything with effect procs (snare/root/etc)

Keep in mind if your pet has a proc with effect (like tash sticks) they will disappear if used on you and you recharm the pet (at least the last time I played enc, they did)

The ratio/delay is not relevant unless you're using very low level pets (<l10) and have a huge damage weapon (some like weighted axe have an invisible NOPET flag)

pijan
04-23-2017, 07:17 PM
Does the class/level of pet matter for proc?

Darkatar
04-23-2017, 07:22 PM
The class only matters as much as a class normally matters.
Casters are nice once you can manatap, because you can cast taps on them during charm breaks.

Otherwise, a rogue pet is optimal, because they will backstab with any weapon or no weapon at all.

Pets have no restriction on gear, they can wear any race/class/size. (EDIT-they will NOT wear no-trade)

The level to proc is the same requirement as the player (a lv46proc for a player, will only proc for lv46+ pets)

Lowako
04-23-2017, 07:34 PM
Staff of Undead Legions is really good if you're fighting undead. If you're in a group with a melee DPS you can do a trick with disarm to get the pet to use staff in mainhand and steel hilted flint dagger in the offhand. You can also go with DawnFire, Morning Star Of Light because that is 1handed, but quite a bit more expensive.

Izmael
04-23-2017, 07:37 PM
Ghoulbane and Staff of Undead Legions are nice for undead.

I did some log crunching on 2nd floor CoM at some point with just the staff and concluded it improved your DPS by about 15% overall (taking into account that all mobs aren't undead - staff only procs on undead).

Overall exp gain due to staff was probably significantly lower because you still get charm breaks and need to run around to mobs, and that time spent is unaffected by the staff.

pijan
05-03-2017, 08:21 AM
Does pet NPC level matter for proc?

Izmael
05-03-2017, 08:26 AM
Does pet NPC level matter for proc?

Same requirement as for a PC. If an item procs at level X for a PC, it will take a charmed pet of level X or higher to proc it (otherwise you'll get the "your will isn't strong enough to command the weapon" message instead of the proc).

SoekiWiz
05-03-2017, 09:30 AM
Mind you only humanoid mobs will equip gear you give them.

Assuming you already know that, optimal pet gear would look like this:
2x Adamantite Bands (-20MR)
Rusty Spiked Shoulderpads (-10MR)
Riptide Spear (-5MR)
Tome of the Eternal (-10MR)
Astral Legs/Cloak of the Titans (-10MR)
Tolapumj's Robe (+36% Haste)

Other notable pet weapons:
Velium Swiftblade (If you don't need a proc weapon) - 36% haste
Ghoulbane - Up to 132 Undead DD procs @ L20
Staff of Undead Legions - Up to 585 Undead DD procs @ L46
Dawnfire - Up to 585 Undead DD procs @ L40
Gold Plated Koshigatana - Up to 162 Summoned DD procs @ L30
Steel Hilted Flint Dagger - Up to 625 Fire DD procs @ L50
Axe of the Slayers - Up to 90pt dmg absorb + str procs @ L30

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These are all bells and whistles, the main thing is just getting the pet to double attack. That will increase DPS significantly. All you need to do for this is hand it something that is "secondary only" to make it dual wield and activate the off-hand swings.

Torches, Lanterns, Shields, Instruments, whatever tickles your fancy.

Have fun~

Tecmos Deception
05-03-2017, 12:55 PM
Mind you only humanoid mobs will equip gear you give them.

You sure about that? Maybe it changed since I played and maybe NPCs have different rules than charmed NPCs, I guess.

Spyder73
05-03-2017, 03:04 PM
Ykeshan War Club, Deadwood Stave, and Master Wu Trance Sticks are all popular and inexpensive weapons to carry around with you for charming (and torches of course). Problem is on charm break if you are not careful you have a war machine coming at you full blast...

Darkatar
05-03-2017, 03:05 PM
Mind you only humanoid mobs will equip gear you give them.


I'm fairly certain that humanoids are the only ones that use -weapons-, nonhumanids should be able to use armors still.

The nerf to non-humans was -

Kanras: Shaman pet can no longer accept weapons.

Only mentions accepting weapons. I know there was a similar patch for charmed animals and it should also be for weapons.

Izmael
05-05-2017, 06:03 PM
Goos equip weapons, dual wield when torched, etc.

Darkatar
05-05-2017, 06:15 PM
Goos equip weapons, dual wield when torched, etc.

Sounds like bugreport material, go go nerf enc.

Izmael
05-06-2017, 07:23 AM
Goos should be able to quad without any weapons. When you look at how they strike, they obviously have 4... limbs flying out.

Darkatar
05-06-2017, 02:20 PM
Goos should be able to quad without any weapons. When you look at how they strike, they obviously have 4... limbs flying out.

I will agree with this if If you can convince the devs to allow you to throw bags of sea salt on them for insta kills