Skelly Illusion

[ylarik24]

So I know this has been brought up many times and would love to give it another go. I know skelly with no nameplate is classic but putting nameplates on skelly would help alot for pvp and make it a little more appealing. Yes its not classic but also having 500 aons is not classic either is golem wands or alot of the stuff they did to make red 99 a little better.8499

[Recycled Children]

Find Jesus.

Happy Easter.

[KEWLGET]

they do not nor will they ever care about this issue or this server

[shokar]

voted yes, and I have an AoN.

[barbados slim]

Such a no brainer that would drastically improve the server.

[Cylock]

Nice post!

Lets get some feedback guys.

If we get enough players supporting this change (no trolls). It might be enough to convince Nilbog about it.

After all this is your server!

[Pseudechis]

Vote no

[Quiet]

Why would you ever need a nameplate? Should be targeting with tab/assist and the person calling targets should be spamming riles on said target so that you can see who you are chasing.

[grannock]

Makes aon alot worse, basically sucks for people that have purchased them in the past year. Doesnt everyone use freeport vision anyways?

[fan D]

Why would you ever need a nameplate? Should be targeting with tab/assist and the person calling targets should be spamming riles on said target so that you can see who you are chasing.

Some people play the game outside of raiding, and engage in small man pvp. It also helps alot of noobs when they are getting griefed in zones like sebilis

[grannock]

Nice post!

Lets get some feedback guys.

If we get enough players supporting this change (no trolls). It might be enough to convince Nilbog about it.

After all this is your server!

This is a pretty big deal. Aon has been the best item on the server since inception. You would make the fungi the hands down best item (other than dain ring) on r99. I really wouldnt change this without serious consideration, a poll available for a few days is meaningless on a server that has been around for years.

[AzzarTheGod]

Nice post!

Lets get some feedback guys.

If we get enough players supporting this change (no trolls). It might be enough to convince Nilbog about it.

After all this is your server!

Yeah because nilbog has been convinced of so many good ideas in the past that never went anywhere. nilbog would even share his own ideas and opinions, whether its on item loot, or whatever, and they never go anywhere. what nilbog should really be doing is thinking about opening character copies from blue at some point down the road.

The staff is hesitant to make changes, and that is probably an understatement at this point. There is no reason to pretend otherwise in the current year.

voted add nameplate.

[Nirgon]

Make the game files for skelly illusion like the spell file

If you don't have the skelly file and are rocking freeport vision, you can't log in.

Keep it classic.

[grannock]

I pretty much agree woth nirgon, add an option to keep aon and break freeport vision.

[Nirgon]

Ya everyone wants all this custom crap then doesn't play Zek lol

[AzzarTheGod]

nilbog investigated anti-plug code at one point, and again, that went nowhere.

I'm guessing a handful of small children ruined that one too. Its always just a select few people on AON nameplates, anti-plug, and blue copy issue that prevent the majority of the server from seeing any real change.

But its all in the name of keeping something classic that wasn't really classic.

The so-called "safe" decision. Lets have us another safe decision on nameplates.

[grannock]

I mean be real doc, eq is about the least skillfull pvp game on the computer. It requires a dangerous level of understanding about a completely obsolete game, as well as a 100% autistic level of buff preperation.

The real nostalgic amazing aspect is that it is a complete immersive non instanced world where griefing is encouraged by necessity. As far as simple even pvp gaming, anything is better.

[Cylock]

It really gets old hearing "We tried X years ago and it never went anywhere."

I understand your frustration. But don't let that keep any of you from voicing your opinion. Again, this is YOUR server.

Some good feedback here, lets keep it going!

[KEWLGET]

Make the game files for skelly illusion like the spell file

If you don't have the skelly file and are rocking freeport vision, you can't log in.

Keep it classic.

assets are loaded on zone load though

[SamwiseRed]

Nice post!

Lets get some feedback guys.

If we get enough players supporting this change (no trolls). It might be enough to convince Nilbog about it.

After all this is your server!

pm'd nilbog about this early kunark, he said nope.avi

[KEWLGET]

It really gets old hearing "We tried X years ago and it never went anywhere."

I understand your frustration. But don't let that keep any of you from voicing your opinion. Again, this is YOUR server.

Some good feedback here, lets keep it going!

it never went anywhere because the response was always a firm "no"

but hey, good luck convincing rogean to give a shit; you're gonna need it

[Aesop]

not everyone uses Freeport Vision. Besides maybe we would see more pvp videos if everyone wasn't afraid to upload your mass human pvp vids.

[AzzarTheGod]

AoN would still prevent fast visual identification of clerics/enchanters/wizards and slow assist trains down.

That is plenty powerful. add the plates and nerf freeport vision with the DSETUP.dll data. if the .dll doesn't have the capability bulk it up and then ban anyone using freeport vision.

[Ragnaros]

keep no name plates imo but add target rings

[blammo]

10 related post and 34 votes GREAT feedback guys keep it up!!!!

[Pikrib]

10 related post and 34 votes GREAT feedback guys keep it up!!!!

May I borrow one of your 7 AoNs?

[Palemoon]

Force classic first person view, then everyone won't be as dependent on skeleton illusion to hide from the melee rape trains.

[Aesop]

Pretty sure I only ever played in first person on live. Now I never do :confused:

[HippoNipple]

It really gets old hearing "We tried X years ago and it never went anywhere."

I understand your frustration. But don't let that keep any of you from voicing your opinion. Again, this is YOUR server.

Some good feedback here, lets keep it going!

It isn't even a debate. The illusion ruins PvP if people don't cheat to get around it. Most people do cheat to get around it so the people suffering most are the ones following the rules. It is common sense that it is bad for the game.

Even if the illusion showed name plates it would be a top tier item. People would still want it just as much.

[Pseudechis]

This is blue as fuck

[Retticus]

This emu has no project management. See: resist code, disabling 70% of instant clickies, no recharging, duck interrupts, tracking, etc...

[Domski]

Ya love Cylocks enthusiasm but until I see Rogean posting that this is our server (lol) good 1 tho.

[Gustoo]

Cylock saying this is our server will maybe get his guide status revoked.

Aon was always a top tier PvP item and game item in general but this server shows how broken and retarded it is. If we are custom 99 which we are then there might as well be a name plate.

[hammbone]

Makes aon alot worse, basically sucks for people that have purchased them in the past year. Doesnt everyone use freeport vision anyways?

cheater detected.

[hammbone]

voted yes, we all know everyone just uses Freeport vision anyhow so it's a mute point doing this.

cheater detected

[iiNGloriouS]

Find Jesus.

Happy Easter.

[iiNGloriouS]

Make the game files for skelly illusion like the spell file

If you don't have the skelly file and are rocking freeport vision, you can't log in.

Keep it classic.

[AzzarTheGod]

This emu has no project management. See: resist code, disabling 70% of instant clickies, no recharging, duck interrupts, tracking, etc...

That is what I was pointing out.

I thought nilbog was just getting cold feet. Trying to stick to a "classic vision".

But if you look at every single change that was proposed by the project managers for red, its hard to believe its just nilbog thinking better of his ideas. (item loot, plugging, recharging items, and some partial implementation of egg pumice)

We have to wonder whats going on with all these proposed changes that the project manager himself has proposed, and by all accounts, sounded highly interested in.

But Cylock is right, the past shouldn't be used to beat up on the future.

[derpcake]

anyone that hasn't learned from the past is going into the future as an idiot

gg discord

[shokar]

Please add the nameplate. 80 skeletons in a zone is eye aids.

[Gustoo]

Also launch discord yesterday disable PvP on r99 and call it a day

[Andrei Chikatilo]

Pretty sure I only ever played in first person on live. Now I never do :confused:

Cuz mouse wheel

[Gardur]

Pretty clear the server wants this change. It has been supported by leaders and pvpers for years.

[dis_mornin]

Thread is laughable. Appreciate Cylocks enthusiasm, but first step in creating a thriving fair and balanced PvP box is having GM's that care and understand PvP. To quote sniperfire from 5 years ago... Rogean does not give a fuck.

[WTSeller]

Thread is laughable. Appreciate Cylocks enthusiasm, but first step in creating a thriving fair and balanced PvP box is having GM's that care and understand PvP. To quote sniperfire from 5 years ago... Rogean does not give a fuck.

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[Bones]

as a non cheater im wondering wtf is freeport vision

[Recycled Children]

as a non cheater im wondering wtf is freeport vision

If I'm not mistaken (unless some new hack has been added), it's a file change that makes skeleton illusion model appear as default Human model so name plates show up. Was originated from <Azrael> scummers to combat losing to <Holocaust>. Didn't help much they still got stomped into the pavement of KC.

[Pseudechis]

Of real interest is 72 unique people responded to the poll in this thread. I'm guessing at least 20 are second forum accounts. But quite reflective of logging into red.

[hammbone]

as a non cheater im wondering wtf is freeport vision

exactly - shits need to be banned.

[shokar]

Can we just delete every aon on red I hate looking at skeletons

[Recycled Children]

Voted keep no nameplate. Please stop whining to make the game easier, enable anti-plug code.

[iiNGloriouS]

Voted keep no nameplate. Please stop whining to make the game easier, enable anti-plug code.

An anti-plug code would get me to log in. Not gonna lie.

[Baler]

An anti-plug code would get me to log in. Not gonna lie.

I don't believe you.

[HippoNipple]

as a non cheater im wondering wtf is freeport vision

Jesus, people still play that don't cheat? I thought that died out with those Spear of Nation nerds.

[georgie]

Luclin models and win

[Samsonite]

Nice post!

Lets get some feedback guys.

If we get enough players supporting this change (no trolls). It might be enough to convince Nilbog about it.

After all this is your server!

We have all asked for a wipe 1000 times. This is not our server.

[TheDuck]

Nice post!

Lets get some feedback guys.

If we get enough players supporting this change (no trolls). It might be enough to convince Nilbog about it.

After all this is your server!

the community has already made its choice, free farm of 3 years of AON's on a 120 peak box, there are more aons on the server than active players.

The community took corrective measures themselves and run freeport vision, i dont use it just cause im lazy and dont feel like downloading and adding the freeport vision file. But if i got annoyed enough about it i could totally see myself "fixing" it for myself.

This is something that will never be fixed. all you can do is use the community fix and hope u dont get in trouble

edit: forgot to mention 75% of the player base runs freeport vision.

[Onus]

What's Freeport Vision?

[Andrei Chikatilo]

Skelly file needs to be like spell file

Then move to resolved

[silo32]

After playing on red 4 years I just installed Freeport vision. Game breaking. My kd went up +3. Moving this post to resolved. Thanks everyone for voting.

[KEWLGET]

sry 2 say but if u need freeport vision to handle skellingtons ur eyes and/or reaction speed sux

[hammbone]

Until all players have freeport vision, it should be considered a cheat. Is someone going to release it to the public?

[Recycled Children]

If Freeport Vision is running rampant then my vote goes to add nameplate.

[TheDuck]

Until all players have freeport vision, it should be considered a cheat. Is someone going to release it to the public?

it is public. lol. both big guilds have distributors.

[TheDuck]

I actually have always been super against freeport vision, but the problem has been exponentially increasing every AON drop that it is a huge problem.

I still won't use it because it is against the rules, but if it was to be taken off the rules. id switch to it in a heartbeat. the aon when just a few in each guild had one was perfectly fine, now every single person has atleast one.

it wasn't classic, on live for every 500 people 1 AON existed. for every 120 people on this server 900 aon's exist.

NOT CLASSIC

so while i think it is cheating to use freeport vision i hold nothing against u if u do. cause this shit is broken as fuck.

[hammbone]

it is public. lol. both big guilds have distributors.

Many have already commented they don't have it.. can't be that public.

[Darkatar]

I still won't use it because it is against the rules
Many have already commented they don't have it.. can't be that public.
they are lieing :P no one will admit to using it. Every single PvPer on this server uses freeport vision. There is no way to actually engage in pvp without it.

[hammbone]

:edit 82 people use freeport vision so far confirmed. lol.

discounting VPNs, isn't that the server population?

[Retticus]

I got mine from my Apex guild leader in the Apex WhatsApp

[hammbone]

I got mine from my Apex guild leader in the Apex WhatsApp

Funny, I saw a video from long ago where it was a bard and he had *unusually* clear vision across the entire zone in area at Dreadland's portal... character name started with a "T" and subsequent videos showed him griefing in-range lowbies...

Is this also a part of "Freeport Vision"?

[Nyrod]

I got mine from my Apex guild leader in the Apex WhatsApp

hes not in whatsapp

[Andrei Chikatilo]

Lots of texture sploits being used. Make these files like the spell file where they are checked.

[hammbone]

most people are running the max clip and freeport vision, i figured everyone knew about those?

Believe me when I say what I saw in the video was NOT max clip... all fog/mist was removed and player could clearly see to zone wall.

[AzzarTheGod]

hes not in whatsapp

thx 4 clarification

[Ragnaros]

whats freeport vision?

[bestovv]

whats freeport vision?

good question

[TrollCall]

Many have already commented they don't have it.. can't be that public.

it is public http://noskel.altervista.org/

so is the great owning of palemoon (check my post history)

[Gustoo]

Just think how domination you would have been in classic with trix like you know today.

[Gustoo]

P.s. I suggest a maximum number of illusions in one zone after which point the illusions just get wiped?

That way the item can still be good but not make mass PvP dumb?

Maube

[hammbone]

just add nameplates or target rings, simple.

omg target rings would be great... the way people screen drag, effects of lag and strafe... omg target ring would be great for visually impaired like me.

[hammbone]

it is public http://noskel.altervista.org/

so is the great owning of palemoon (check my post history)

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84845

lol great post but a bit of a sperg w/ all that research that went into it.

[LostCause]

we had target rings when the server first came out

wands were instant like they should be

soulfires could be clicked by all classes from inventory etc so many changes happen since classic

pretty sure melee range was even bigger back then aswell.

[AzzarTheGod]

we had target rings when the server first came out

wands were instant like they should be

soulfires could be clicked by all classes from inventory etc so many changes happen since classic

pretty sure melee range was even bigger back then aswell.

r u trying to say the server has become el-dogo los shitos? I hope not pal.

[syztem]

melee range hitbox were nerfed on the patch right before velious. they are way too small now imo, but they were giant size before and way too huge(see any rogue pvp video prior to patch, backstabbing the air as u face opposite direction of target)

[Gustoo]

Getting back stabbed while corner casting was good times

[Eldini]

skellies are a shitshow just put the damn name plates on and watch the world burn

[Nirgon]

Add item loot and you won't have people spamming AoNs from their general slots.

Man real funny how that worked. We had AoNs on RZ. No one in mass PvP was spamming one from their general slot. Make the shit classic already.

[heartbrand]

Melee range is brutal

[SamwiseRed]

Add item loot and you won't have people spamming AoNs from their general slots.

Man real funny how that worked. We had AoNs on RZ. No one in mass PvP was spamming one from their general slot. Make the shit classic already.

really cant compare this place to rz anymore.

the casual to druggy ratio is close to 1:50 here, maybe 1:1 on live.
rz wasnt progression locked for 6 years. people barely had one level 60 let alone 10.
more aons than players.

i dont think item loot would solve this problem but i definitely think it would make the server more fun.

[El Prez]

Only topic to receive bipartisan support time and time again.

[Nirgon]

It would fix the problem of people spamming AoNs from general slot and other clickies too.

Lots of blue protest against item loot.

[magician]

hey nirgon. did you decide to not post from your alternative personality this time, andrei chikatilo?

very kewl and normal i see

[Nirgon]

Oh Christ you aren't getting obsessed with me like you're obsessed with Doors are you?

You've been spamming his RL pic for months dude. Seek HELP.

[Beastagoog]

So I know this has been brought up many times and would love to give it another go. I know skelly with no nameplate is classic but putting nameplates on skelly would help alot for pvp and make it a little more appealing. Yes its not classic but also having 500 aons is not classic either is golem wands or alot of the stuff they did to make red 99 a little better.8499

The luclin skeletons so much better than classic. One of the only few.

[iiNGloriouS]

Oh Christ you aren't getting obsessed with me like you're obsessed with Doors are you?

You've been spamming his RL pic for months dude. Seek HELP.

Is Doors still leading a crusade against #corruptnirgonchat? 😂😂😂

[AzzarTheGod]

man i get real in-depth with cylock, if ya'll boys really real enough

this is la familia, but i'll explain later

for now let me get back to the paper

I'm with Ragnarok, and I got about 5 stacks

I'm on the inside in the winners circle, watching Nirgon try to get back

8 digits, 6 zeros, 3 commas,

onions squared up

tired of running circles around elfpals, now we squared up


http://i.imgur.com/IinKQPt.png

[Nirgon]

Is Doors still leading a crusade against #corruptnirgonchat? 😂😂😂

No1 was buyin into that shit.

He'll come up with somethin else.

Snek gonna snek.

[mischief419]

Surprised this wasn't done a year ago ;D

[Jah]

Many top PvPers on the server do not use Freeport vision

[Nirgon]

It involves deleting 1 fuckin file? Real complicated

Don't believe that this isn't over used and a SPLOIT

[AzzarTheGod]

It involves deleting 1 fuckin file? Real complicated

Don't believe that this isn't over used and a SPLOIT

dsetup or the server itself could easily do a checksum on the file similar to the spellfile.

if nobody cares is it really a sploit?

[mickmoranis]

Nice post!

Lets get some feedback guys.

If we get enough players supporting this change (no trolls). It might be enough to convince Nilbog about it.

After all this is your server!

I voted no cus OP used a stupid image of a luclin skelly cus hes an idiot.

But consider my vote for classic skellies with nameplate if you serious

[coldslaw]

The luclin skeletons so much better than classic. One of the only few.

False

[Phenyo]

man i get real in-depth with cylock, if ya'll boys really real enough

this is la familia, but i'll explain later

for now let me get back to the paper

I'm with Ragnarok, and I got about 5 stacks

I'm on the inside in the winners circle, watching Nirgon try to get back

8 digits, 6 zeros, 3 commas,

onions squared up

tired of running circles around elfpals, now we squared up


http://i.imgur.com/IinKQPt.png

bars

[Tune]

add the name plates plz...

some people have freeport vision and others dont

makes the playing field very un-even and not fun

[Labanen]

I support this idea, lets get some names on the bones

[letsjoe]

add the name plates plz...

some people have freeport vision and others dont

makes the playing field very un-even and not fun

confess idiot

[shokar]

bump

[hammbone]

you tools are crazy if you think anything is going to change anytime soon.

[syztem]

voted no long time ago, but if they did luclin graphic skeleton with name plates + target rings ide say yes. name plates alone on a skeleton do very little, especially on the classic skeleton model.

[Cecily]

As a long time red player, I fully support adding name plates.

[KEWLGET]

you tools are crazy if you think anything is going to change anytime soon.

[Sk00ba5t3v3]

laziest staff of any game ive ever seen, ever. Its like they have totally given up on this server. Cylock surely hasn't realized yet he's being trolled by being assigned here.

[Nirgon]

If u got Freeport vision you can't handle classic shit

Scorch this Norrath and rebuild it with item loot