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Timarak
04-14-2017, 10:19 AM
I have read a lot about the toxicity on this server so I had to share this experience. I understand this wasn’t a raid target we were dealing with, however… Last night, my wife and I just made our first trip over from Kunark with our little 17 monk/shaman duo. She died at druid rings, probably my fault for not thinking about invisibility. After 20 minutes or so to find a resurrection we set up ourselves with some “banker” mules in the EC tunnel and bound ourselves in Freeport. Made the journey over to Najena were we promptly found ourselves at the bottom of the dungeon in separate jail cells. Rathyl nuked her down and I was stuck behind the other locked gate.

Did a quick /ooc for help and an Awakened member who was leveling an alt offered to kill The Guard Captain for a key to unlock. After a while of not being about to clear or find the key, he offered to Evacuate me on his main. He took the time run to zone, evacuate me out, and pull my wife’s corpse to the entrance. When I offered to pay him what little platinum I had he refused. He then gave both of us several items which were major upgrades and a set of keys to the dungeon so we could play there later. He came back on his monk alt to power level us both while showing me exactly which camps we could set up at, how to pull them, and much more detail regarding the zone.

He is so far the most helpful person we have encountered on the server and we have been given/helped a lot by many.

TLDR: Couple of newbies died at the bottom of Najena. Got saved by a selfless Awakened member. Gifted major upgrades, shown the zone, and power leveled back the lost experience.

Lhancelot
04-15-2017, 12:02 AM
It's funny because I been leveling a lowbie recently so I have had to stoop to begging for buffs in the tunnel at times.

Sometimes I just ask for sow, other times I might even ask for as much as a regen and sow! Or, a clarity if I find an unlucky chanter just looking like he needs to be pestered for buffs...

That bieng said I have found many Awakened members quite friendly and generous with their buffing.

I also have sent tells to them for advice about a specific class or spells etc., and found more Awakened members respond back with tips or advice.

I never have had a bad experience with any of them.

Swish
04-15-2017, 04:00 AM
Thanks for sharing OP, hopefully the same is true for any other guilds you encounter.

branamil
04-15-2017, 04:42 AM
I don't think any individual member has a reputation as "mean". Just as a whole they are extremely aggressive about end game raid content.

Swish
04-15-2017, 04:49 AM
I don't think any individual member has a reputation as "mean". Just as a whole they are extremely aggressive about end game raid content.

That sums it up quite nicely.

I know on an individual basis there isn't anyone I really hate on blue. Collectively together everyone puts their representative guild hats on and faces off in what is rarely a show of diplomacy.

People mock the 2 high end raiding guilds for their commitment, just a shame it permeates the forum and gives new starters a wrongly bad impression of the average player here.

Bubbles
04-15-2017, 05:03 AM
Pretty much every member of every raiding guild on this server is chill as hell in a one-on-one situation.. It's only in open-racing and the RnF forum that it all goes to hell :)

Sadiki
04-15-2017, 05:26 AM
Pretty much every member of every raiding guild on this server is chill as hell in a one-on-one situation.. It's only in open-racing and the RnF forum that it all goes to hell :)
This is pretty much it. Raiders and even forum trolls are mostly just friendly people in game. This server would be so chill if the small group of people who turn this into a lawyerquest pixel-racing toxic wasteland were not here.

Rang
04-15-2017, 10:45 AM
Ever heard of the D.E.N.N.I.S system?

Knowmercy
04-15-2017, 11:51 AM
good to hear and glad you had a good experience OP. thats the right mentality to have. altho nobody would really do anything "toxic" to a genuinely new person to the server that needed help i dont think hehe. its commonplace for people to stereotype the top guilds on these types of servers, i certainly did before i had to see what it was

all types of people are in all types of guilds, and play p99 in their own way (some buy and sell on the marketplace, collectings items/personal achievements, others like to play solo/small groups, others by a special guild charter to create a unique experience, others solely raid, ETC ) be wary of assumptions and prejudice. endgame is very competitive and political, thus its a fair assumption that someone who had a bad experience with it, or didnt know about it, getting all their information from forums would deem it "toxic". other end of the argument is what incentive do people who enjoy and participate in endgame have to tell people "its actually alot of fun, do what you enjoy and ignore the rest. if its not for you, move on"


People mock the 2 high end raiding guilds for their commitment, just a shame it permeates the forum and gives new starters a wrongly bad impression of the average player here.

I have read a lot about the toxicity on this server...


^ this is just it, and the lesson to be had hehe. your lvl 17 enjoying the game w friends and/or family reliving the nostalgic majesty that is classic EQ, enjoying being new again. rnf should be the last bit of any eq related reading that your doing, and is far removed from what the experience is/can be for you. had you never "read about the toxicity" of the server, said toxicity would not exist

titanshub
04-15-2017, 12:46 PM
+1 would read again. The amount of toxicity that takes place on the forums is not proportional to that which can occasionally been found in game. I found the 1-50 grind to be one of the most social and friendly experiences I've ever had in a game. It was far more friendly than live ever was. The toxicity experienced at 50-60 has more to do with the nature of non-instanced content and having a server that has been live for the better part of a decade than it does with neckbeards and basement dwellers. It's not fair to say that it doesn't happen but the black/white, red team vs blue team simplifications of the 55+ game and the guilds that participate in that content has way more to do with human psychology than it does objective reality.

Simply put, there are good, friendly people in lots of guilds. I find that if you are friendly and try to talk to people reasonably about conflicts when they come up then you run into far less issues and toxicity than if you assume the worst because of someones guild tag. Don't believe everything you read on here.

Timarak
04-15-2017, 02:05 PM
It is refreshing to hear my experience isn't a rarity. I know all too well what the endgame can turn into. I played as a main tank in the top guild on my server. Experienced the Sleeper's Tomb, Dain, Velk, AoW, VP, and all the other races on a weekly basis. For the most part, it was a griefless race to engage with little drama. The times it wasn't all hell could and usually would break loose. Looking back on all of the memories some of the best were the leveling experience and helping guildmates/friends complete epic quests after Kunark release. EQ live introduced me many lifelong friends who I still remember vividly.

I hope that by the time we reach level 60 the endgame calms down a bit as people retire to other hobbies or games. My wife never got to experience the game and we are having a blast so far.

Trazic
04-15-2017, 02:17 PM
I hope that by the time we reach level 60 the endgame calms down a bit

Oh you sweet summer child.

Timarak
04-15-2017, 02:19 PM
Oh you sweet summer child.

Am I too naive?

A_Bomb
04-15-2017, 02:40 PM
I was finishing up my jBoots quest the other day and a member of awakened saw me camping the shadowed rapier. After I got all the parts together he ported me to feerrott and ran to the rathe mountains with me. Then he tracked the ph that was up, showed me where they spawn and SoWed and gave me a strength buff to help with all the gold I was carrying.

Would have taken me hours to do all that without his help.

kotton05
04-15-2017, 02:52 PM
Am I too naive?

Very much so, but glad you had a good experience sir, welcome to the box

Phatez
04-15-2017, 04:29 PM
One time we were in a heated bloodthirsty battle in TOV for raid mobs. I zoned out to get a sow but there were no aftermath druids to be seen. I hailed the Awakened Druid and low and behold he began to cast a spell. A rush of adrenaline surged through my body and I raced back to the line to stare at a wall for another 31 minutes before the SoW fell.

Did this awakened druid know who I was or was he fooled by my tomato like gnome figure? I will never know, but thank you for saving me the potion click, kind traveler.

Phatez

Kesselring
04-15-2017, 04:39 PM
fyi you can run through the bars if u go hold right click and hold w+a or w+d sort of perpendicular to the bars.

Dolalin
04-15-2017, 05:06 PM
Every raid guild on the box has good people in it. It's just the percentage that might fluctuate a bit. I've had very few problems with any individual in any guild on this server outside of the raid scene. Solid group of people generally.

skarlorn
04-15-2017, 05:54 PM
there are good people in every guild

Teppler
04-16-2017, 05:33 PM
I'll give the other side, I haven't played in over a year since an Awakened group jacked my hiero cloak spawn in sebilis. It was real scummy and shameful stuff thats turned me off to playing this game.

Nellee
04-18-2017, 09:48 AM
Timmah?

mgellan
04-18-2017, 09:56 AM
Very much so, but glad you had a good experience sir, welcome to the box

Well in my experience (6 years on the server) the raid scene has improved immensely and as other distractions present themselves (Agnarr soon and Pantheon next year) the current scene will get much less congested. Even one guild moving to Phinny made things immensely easier, and it wasn't because of that guild's attitude or anything else. Too many mouths to feed...

Regards,
Mg

kotton05
04-18-2017, 10:38 AM
Well in my experience (6 years on the server) the raid scene has improved immensely and as other distractions present themselves (Agnarr soon and Pantheon next year) the current scene will get much less congested. Even one guild moving to Phinny made things immensely easier, and it wasn't because of that guild's attitude or anything else. Too many mouths to feed...

Regards,
Mg

Oh, don't take it as it's not better than before, before there was less mobs per guild by a long shot, now mid tier / low tier guilds can thrive with little to no resistance. no better time than now tbh. I think of the old kunark pixels and the shady tactics involved and it's nothing like now. At same time it'll never change where a casual will ever see these engages in ToV that get 16 runners on the line for.

I dunno about you but the no rules Wild West was much less of a headache, these coth races really push the casual crowd so far into the background and there is no reason to make rules that make engaging a head ache (in reference to the convoluted rules on Coth mages and where you're allowed to camp your raid out along with using a bard speed to fte certain mobs , when in all other cases you can't use bard speed... etc etc need to revisit all these). The only rules I like are the one hour lock outs, it really should apply to almost all mob (imo should be 24 hour for all really) Perhaps change is in the future! I hope.

As it stands now any new guild will be griefed by the written and unwritten rules in place and as a noob you won't know till your being asked to concede or getting a suspension.

Nellee
04-18-2017, 10:44 AM
If this is Timarak/Cinamini from TM send Nellee or Zigili a tell in game.

We leveled together and I'm excited to catch up. :)

Spyder73
04-18-2017, 11:00 AM
I have had very few bad experiences with people outside of cash camp spawns (Fungi and AC seem to be the worst). Anything below level 50 is almost always civil and people are super helpful, its the high end where the dreaded Neck Beard roams

Timarak
04-18-2017, 11:26 AM
If this is Timarak/Cinamini from TM send Nellee or Zigili a tell in game.

We leveled together and I'm excited to catch up. :)

Whoa someone remembers my fat ogre? Neat!

Nellee
04-18-2017, 11:27 AM
No one could ever forget your fat ogre.

Joyelle
04-18-2017, 12:07 PM
I'll give the other side, I haven't played in over a year since an Awakened group jacked my hiero cloak spawn in sebilis. It was real scummy and shameful stuff thats turned me off to playing this game.

You made your QQ post in September. That's 7 months ago.

Also, it's been 7 months. Let it go, man.

Lhancelot
04-18-2017, 12:50 PM
You made your QQ post in September. That's 7 months ago.

Also, it's been 7 months. Let it go, man.

When you lose pixels, it hurts man.

Cecily
04-18-2017, 02:32 PM
You made your QQ post in September. That's 7 months ago.

Also, it's been 7 months. Let it go, man.

How's it feel to ruin some random person's enjoyment of the game? That's 7 months he hasn't played thanks to your guildies.

teija
04-18-2017, 02:36 PM
lol, Cecily still salty from being the only person removed from Awakened for being a douchebag.

Lhancelot
04-18-2017, 02:50 PM
How's it feel to ruin some random person's enjoyment of the game? That's 7 months he hasn't played thanks to your guildies.

Honestly Cecily, if someone quits a game because another player takes a mob from them, they probably weren't that interested in the game.

Majority of us that been on MMOs have had mobs and items taken, KS'd, etc., and we didn't quit.

I aint justifying douchebaggery, but defending the guy who cries about a mob being taken from him and that being why he quit the game months ago is a bit hard to swallow.

Cecily
04-18-2017, 03:19 PM
lol, Cecily still salty from being the only person removed from Awakened for being a douchebag.

Remind me how I was being a douchebag again.

teija
04-18-2017, 03:59 PM
Remind me how I was being a douchebag again.

Intentionally griefing/harassing other players so you can get a cheap thrill, Sure fire way to get a boot in the ass during your app period.

Cecily
04-18-2017, 04:03 PM
Intentionally griefing/harassing other players so you can get a cheap thrill, Sure fire way to get a boot in the ass during your app period.

You mean exping in Chardok and getting trained by an Awakened app. Gotcha.

nyclin
04-18-2017, 04:09 PM
You mean exping in Chardok and getting trained by an Awakened app. Gotcha.

lets be accurate here: standing in the path of the AOE pull, then intentionally sitting down as it was coming in so that you'd get aggro on the train and die, then creating a thread proclaiming yourself a martyr in RnF

"exping in chardok" lol...

Cecily
04-18-2017, 04:12 PM
No. No. You don't sit down. That doesn't transfer agro. You hit something it's social with.
Like when you're clearing down and the group refuses to not pull on top of you.

Sancta
04-18-2017, 04:28 PM
At same time it'll never change where a casual will ever see these engages in ToV that get 16 runners on the line for.


Do you have quadruple vision b/c of double drunkenness or something?

teija
04-18-2017, 04:37 PM
You mean exping in Chardok and getting trained by an Awakened app. Gotcha.

You will fit right in with Rustle, They also like to grief/harass other peoples play experience for shits and giggles. see - http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270154

Cecily
04-18-2017, 04:56 PM
No shit.

How's it feel to ruin some random person's enjoyment of the game? That's 7 months he hasn't played thanks to your guildies.

Didn't answer my question.

Joyelle
04-18-2017, 04:59 PM
How's it feel to ruin some random person's enjoyment of the game? That's 7 months he hasn't played thanks to your guildies.

lol I wasn't even there, I didn't ruin anything. And i've had my enjoyment of this game ruined by you and your ilk for years previously.

Cecily
04-18-2017, 05:04 PM
Yeah good times. That's what P99s about isn't it? Nostalgia.

Anyways, agreed, it wasn't you personally. But you still see fit to flame the guy over being mad about the incident with your guild that made him quit. Just wanted to point that out. Thanks Joy.

Joyelle
04-18-2017, 05:16 PM
Yeah good times. That's what P99s about isn't it? Nostalgia.

Anyways, agreed, it wasn't you personally. But you still see fit to flame the guy over being mad about the incident with your guild that made him quit. Just wanted to point that out. Thanks Joy.

I'm not flaming him, i'm urging him to let it go. It happened a long time ago. I used to feel like quitting every time there was an incident where TMO dicked me around (which was alot), but I chose not to play the victim and instead get even.

Thanks Cecily bro.

Pokesan
04-18-2017, 07:53 PM
awakened posters doing a lot to prove OP wrong

Fifield
04-19-2017, 03:27 PM
There are good people in every guild. It comes with a price of dealing with some retards.