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Sorn
03-29-2017, 01:06 PM
More of a discussion thread while we figure out what's going on, so put on your thinking caps and let's do some sleuthing.

On live, a patch was put in on February 15, 2017 indicating that the devs had restored old Ruins of Kunark quests and the reward for being the first on your server to complete these quests is a title (the Kunark Archaeologist) and whatever reward you get from those quests. They are in on the TLP servers as well, apparently in their original form (I think?).

The current list of quests (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=8466)

The point of this thread is to establish whether or not these quests were in game and working during classic era and simply went unsolved. I know someone will point out that some dev somewhere or other claimed all the original quests were solved, but first of all, no single person was in charge of the quests put into EQ, and second of all I think that comment was more hearsay and no official comment has ever been made. Not to mention not even DBG realized the quests were there until they went through their own stuff, so official comments may also be wrong!

The history on Alla for all items and all quests is a bit spotty because they were pretty much trash items until someone figured out what they were for. The earliest comments on several are from 2002, but according to this one (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=22501#m105962148523492), this particular item has been dropping for a long time but no one has ever commented on it until 2003. It follows that the rest have a similar history, given that Alla is player-run and therefore subject to player error.

The rewards themselves are in-line with high end Kunark quests (matching their difficulty). EX: Shield of the Dark (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=128223)
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SECONDARY
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 35
STR: +5 STA: +10 WIS: +10 INT: +5 MANA: +20
SV DISEASE: +10
Effect: Sebilite Pox (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 13.5) at Level 50
WT: 5.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: CLR SHD SHM
Race: HUM DEF TRL OGR GNM FRG
(requires drops from many Kunark zones, including high level dungeons)

Right now I think there's still work being done by players to solve all of these quests. Here is the current thread on the official board: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/long-forgotten-quests-feb-15-patch.238498/

Because these are only being solved now, there won't be a lot of stuff on archive.org unless we're lucky. I know some of you guys have held onto logs from classic era and some of you play on TLP servers, so I figure if we pool our resources together, we can reach some sort of conclusion.

Brocode
03-30-2017, 12:04 PM
if all quests are true kunark, do we get those here?

Haynar
03-30-2017, 01:05 PM
if all quests are true kunark, do we get those here?

No. They did not exist. Whether broken or not.

maximum
03-30-2017, 01:31 PM
"Old" doesn't necessarily mean "Classic Era 2000-2001".

Haynar
03-30-2017, 01:36 PM
"Old" doesn't necessarily mean "Classic Era 2000-2001".

If you look at the rewards, they are more consistent with luclin era rewards than what quests actually rewarded during true kunark era.

Sorn
04-01-2017, 08:19 PM
Even if they were broken, they might have pieces that have been dropping since Kunark that aren't in p99 but should be.

Jimjam
04-02-2017, 03:28 AM
I can't help but think that even if these quests were in game and working in the classic era, when DBG went back to look at / highlight them they may have replaced whatever the classic reward may have been to make it less junky for modern EQ 50s??

not alla
04-02-2017, 10:48 AM
The shield mentioned, the quest is titled 'koada'dal focus' which is part of the vah'shir line of quests if i'm not mistaken. So clearly, luclin?

Sorn
04-02-2017, 11:08 AM
The shield mentioned, the quest is titled 'koada'dal focus' which is part of the vah'shir line of quests if i'm not mistaken. So clearly, luclin?

You're mistaken, the quest is called 'Lost Koada`Dal Force'.

jolanar
04-10-2017, 04:45 PM
I can't help but think that even if these quests were in game and working in the classic era, when DBG went back to look at / highlight them they may have replaced whatever the classic reward may have been to make it less junky for modern EQ 50s??

This. If anyone thinks those rewards were meant for actual Kunark era they are clowning themselves.

Brocode
09-09-2017, 12:43 PM
. mispost

Sorn
09-26-2017, 02:50 PM
An EQ dev who's been on the team for 15 years, Prathun, commented on this topic back in May:

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/unsolved-mysteries.226521/page-2#post-3538017

In fifteen years, I have never found a legacy quest that could reasonably be completed that had not yet already been completed. I have found a number of quests that were partially implemented or otherwise broken that could not be completed. For example, the Kunark quests that were restored and added on Feb 15th of this year.

Caiu
09-26-2017, 03:08 PM
Zero chance of them being legit classic quests with AC like that. Nice thought though. Also Prathun didn't start working on EQ till Luclin.

augusta
10-04-2017, 08:42 PM
Is there a quest or purpose for the empty crypt in FoB? Seems kinda interesting with the crimson snake throne and coffins. Nothing spawns in there. I investigated several times with see invisible. I can't seem to find any information about it or that erudite ghost wandering the coast.

pasi
10-05-2017, 01:36 AM
You could implement these quests to P99 and it wouldn't matter because the majority (all?) of these NPCs/drops were put in with SoL and PoP additions to Kunark zones.

While item IDs do get modified and are a pretty shitty way to prove when an individual item was added, they do a good job for large groups of items. All the item ID#'s are on the other side of SoL.

You're better off arguing to fix the long-busted PoM box combines and giving the world barbarian clerics.