Platinum Issues? (Cleric)

[zaneosak]

Hi all. I recently broke 1000p at lvl 39 as a cleric. I have had no help, I am not a twink, I have 1 toon and am guildless (I prefer this for now, until my work schedule changes)

Should I have more plat at this level, just passively? I mad some platinum from selling highkeep ears while I leveled there. I have bought some items with the profits. I am buy HQ Bear skins and sell the bags for 30p profit sometimes. Most platifnum came lvl 36-39 soloing Tower in Unrest, selling an hour worth of fine steel weapons.

I got my first group in Guk at 39 and CoM at 39 and both times had someone tell me my mana pool was rather low for 39 and in COM I had some trouble without clarity keeping up, did fine once I had the mana regen though. Yesterday in CoM someone flat out told me they didn't know how I had so little plat , he had 15k by 40.

Am I doing something wrong? Platinum only comes from selling gems while XPing, I can't really solo very well any more. Any tips? Maybe I just grind it out until 49 and try to sell resses?

[Izmael]

Just get to 52+ when you can reasonably start grouping in Sebilis, gems and loot will flow then.

[Lhancelot]

Hi all. I recently broke 1000p at lvl 39 as a cleric. I have had no help, I am not a twink, I have 1 toon and am guildless (I prefer this for now, until my work schedule changes)

Should I have more plat at this level, just passively? I mad some platinum from selling highkeep ears while I leveled there. I have bought some items with the profits. I am buy HQ Bear skins and sell the bags for 30p profit sometimes. Most platifnum came lvl 36-39 soloing Tower in Unrest, selling an hour worth of fine steel weapons.

I got my first group in Guk at 39 and CoM at 39 and both times had someone tell me my mana pool was rather low for 39 and in COM I had some trouble without clarity keeping up, did fine once I had the mana regen though. Yesterday in CoM someone flat out told me they didn't know how I had so little plat , he had 15k by 40.

Am I doing something wrong? Platinum only comes from selling gems while XPing, I can't really solo very well any more. Any tips? Maybe I just grind it out until 49 and try to sell resses?

What's your wisdom right now with gears on?

Ignore anyone that proclaims how much platinum you should have by X number of lvls, this is a retard talking out his ass. There's no such thing as a certain amount of plat you should have depending on your lvl.

As a cleric it's hard to save plats because all the greedy melee loot everything while you sit and med.

With 1k plats though, I could recommend what items you should buy for boost to wisdom/mana pool if I had an idea what gears you already had, and what your wisdom was now.

1k is a nice amount and you could find some decent wisdom gears with that.

What race is your cleric?

[Qtip]

Just do a couple easy camps and grab some wisdom gear.( testament of vanear, gator scale legs, reed belt, +6 wis rings, splitpaw gloves, crown of leaves).

With 1k and buying shit at the right place you can fill a few slots with 1 k.

[Joyelle]

Grinding out platinum as an untwinked cleric main is absolutely rough. Other people get to loot constantly and you are stuck sitting on your butt just to have enough mana to keep them up. I was once in your shoes. Don't expect to start making money until you can rez. And even then it's not a living, usually just enough to cover the peridots/ports you may have used that day.

Not trying to discourage you but unless you farm cash or item camps, or start playing the EC market it's not really going to get any better. Just make sure your groups are giving you enough gems to cover your reagent expenditures.

[indiscriminate_hater]

If you're looking to make a few bucks, there's nothing wrong with flipping items in EC tunnel for a little while. With your amount of platinum, you could probably pick up things like 55+ velious spells and dump them for double the price. People are always looking to get rid of things quickly in EC and a lot of the resellers don't bother with items in the 100s range.

A lot of people look down on this method, but

1) this was a big part of classic EQ
2) despite what people say, this does count as making your own way in the game
3) if getting better gear allows you to enjoy the game more, then it's worth it to do this for a little while

So fire up Netflix and get to sellin'

[zaneosak]

Thanks for the reply.
Not sure about base stuff, but I made this Magelo just now since you offered to check out my gear. I did camp the Aegis of Life for 6 weeks that is my best item, I invested 300p into the platinum ruby veil 20 levels ago, thought it would last awhile.

Other stuff I have looted or bought 150p or less here and there through my lifespan.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Zeliak

Sorry this was in response to the reply above.

[Yasi]

Your gear is perfectly fine for your level. There are some items you might be able to upgrade easily, but it shouldn't be necessary.

Perhaps your mana pool was low because tank couldn't hold agro and you had to heal them rogues and wizards?

[Lhancelot]

Thanks for the reply.
Not sure about base stuff, but I made this Magelo just now since you offered to check out my gear. I did camp the Aegis of Life for 6 weeks that is my best item, I invested 300p into the platinum ruby veil 20 levels ago, thought it would last awhile.

Other stuff I have looted or bought 150p or less here and there through my lifespan.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Zeliak

Sorry this was in response to the reply above.

You got fair gears for your lvl, I would even say better than many. Get some +6 wisdom rings they are cheap (150pp or less per - Stockmarket the player always sells jewelry and sells for cheap). Cenobite belt would be cheap upgrade for belt for you (+7 wisdom iirc). Get a cone of the mystic for primary it's 50mana/+5 wis.

Really the rest of your gears are fine. With what I recommend you easily should have no mana issues.

If you are running lom too fast for groups now, they are awful groups then tbh. Either you are healing multiple targets constantly, or the tanks are taking tons of damage due to low hp / bad ac. That or you are standing and meleeing when you should be sitting and medding.

Basically you should be sitting all the time, never doing anything else except maybe rooting adds if your group cannot. Healing is the prime job for you. You probably know this just want to make sure all bases are covered lol.

*** Also Othmir Fur Cap - 6 wisdom, 100-150pp.

[mattitude]

Here's a couple things that would be a decent upgrade and be in your budget.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Adamantite_Epaulets

https://wiki.project1999.com/Foreman%27s_Tunic

https://wiki.project1999.com/Crystalline_Belt

It is hard to make money, Im only level 20 so what I did was go to NK and kill a bunch of willowisps and turned in the Greater lightstones and make like 9pp each. was able to get a couple hundred plat to get some magic boots after only a couple hours. plus i got like half a level from all the lightstones and greater lightstones i turned in.

[mcoy]

You're doing better than I was at 39, and my cleric was my first char on p99. I did a few "cash" camps to get myself some jboots; gornit in OOT and the spectres in oasis (i had to wait till 44 for these as i needed https://wiki.project1999.com/Banish_Undead in order to kill them without medding for the last shot.

Agreed on the "ignore what people say" front. You're a cleric - you're going to be mostly broke until you win something decent and sell it (as others have mentioned), or camp something easy for a (long) while. On the specs (just playing a few hours after work) I'd get a few hundred plat and some xp in 2-3 hours after work; if they were open. (you'd be surprised - once people realize you're a cleric they will usually be fine with giving you 1 spawn, since that's all youre going to be able to keep down anyway, lol.) Also, twinks in oasis that forget to bind would offer a few plat for 0% / 50%. Every spell has a purpose... (unless it was written by al'kabor.)

It is possible to solo to 60 as a cleric. It's slow, but sometimes you don't have a few hours to dedicate to a group, or need to get stuff done IRL and then the downtime is useful. Remember, high greens are worth xp as well. If you ever want a suggestion, hit me up in game and I'll tell you what i solo'd at your current level.

-Mcoy

[zaneosak]

You got fair gears for your lvl, I would even say better than many. Get some +6 wisdom rings they are cheap (150pp or less per - Stockmarket the player always sells jewelry and sells for cheap). Cenobite belt would be cheap upgrade for belt for you (+7 wisdom iirc). Get a cone of the mystic for primary it's 50mana/+5 wis.

Really the rest of your gears are fine. With what I recommend you easily should have no mana issues.

If you are running lom too fast for groups now, they are awful groups then tbh. Either you are healing multiple targets constantly, or the tanks are taking tons of damage due to low hp / bad ac. That or you are standing and meleeing when you should be sitting and medding.

Basically you should be sitting all the time, never doing anything else except maybe rooting adds if your group cannot. Healing is the prime job for you. You probably know this just want to make sure all bases are covered lol.

*** Also Othmir Fur Cap - 6 wisdom, 100-150pp.

Ty. I will check these out this weekend. I had a nice group last night where the tank barely took dmg and everybody was good. So Maybe it was just the group. Ive had groups where I have to heal the tanks 2x per mob, which is a struggle sometimes.

Thanks again.

[zaneosak]

Here's a couple things that would be a decent upgrade and be in your budget.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Adamantite_Epaulets

https://wiki.project1999.com/Foreman%27s_Tunic

https://wiki.project1999.com/Crystalline_Belt

It is hard to make money, Im only level 20 so what I did was go to NK and kill a bunch of willowisps and turned in the Greater lightstones and make like 9pp each. was able to get a couple hundred plat to get some magic boots after only a couple hours. plus i got like half a level from all the lightstones and greater lightstones i turned in.

Thank you for the info.

[zaneosak]

You're doing better than I was at 39, and my cleric was my first char on p99. I did a few "cash" camps to get myself some jboots; gornit in OOT and the spectres in oasis (i had to wait till 44 for these as i needed https://wiki.project1999.com/Banish_Undead in order to kill them without medding for the last shot.

Agreed on the "ignore what people say" front. You're a cleric - you're going to be mostly broke until you win something decent and sell it (as others have mentioned), or camp something easy for a (long) while. On the specs (just playing a few hours after work) I'd get a few hundred plat and some xp in 2-3 hours after work; if they were open. (you'd be surprised - once people realize you're a cleric they will usually be fine with giving you 1 spawn, since that's all youre going to be able to keep down anyway, lol.) Also, twinks in oasis that forget to bind would offer a few plat for 0% / 50%. Every spell has a purpose... (unless it was written by al'kabor.)

It is possible to solo to 60 as a cleric. It's slow, but sometimes you don't have a few hours to dedicate to a group, or need to get stuff done IRL and then the downtime is useful. Remember, high greens are worth xp as well. If you ever want a suggestion, hit me up in game and I'll tell you what i solo'd at your current level.

-Mcoy

Thanks for the advice! I tried specs but like you said, need that higher nuke to down them efficiently. I will be waiting to do that a 44 :D

[Twochain]

1st. Join a guild. There are numerous guilds on the server that have zero raid REQUIREMENT, but consistently raid nightly. And clerics are ALWAYS a must have. FoH is a great guild like this. (Shameless plug) But there are others such as Venerate, Omni, I believe Rustle, and a few others.
Make a point to go to all Hate plane raids. You will get free upgrades out the ass. You will also earn DKP for your epic. Don't feel obligated to do anything you don't want to do either. Obviously at this point in your character progression you want to maximize your playtime to progress your character, and your character alone. (for now)

2. Get to level 53ish, and get your ass to sebilis. Your #1 priority is to get to this level, gear be damned. Most groups in sebilis have some sort of a mana battery, and frankly, not many people will care about your gear. We know how it is. You'll find yourself making money hand over fist compared to the rate you make it now.

3. Make some Enchanter friends. Enchanter/Cleric duo is very OP, you could duo a lot of very good camps.

[zaneosak]

I havn't been to Sebilis since the old days (2000-2001) I know it drops all of the armor pieces (besides legs and some others) for kunark class sets, but what is the big money making factor? Just getting lucky on winning an item to sell or vendoring gem drops ? spells? etc. or just all of the above?

[Erati]

make sure groups are giving you gem drops to pay for the dots you are spending on them out of pocket

or no symbols

[Draulius]

I had 2000 plat at level 24 (only character at that time) so yes you're doing something wrong.

[Ella`Ella]

Start a raid guild, merge the guild, take the guild bank with you.

[Jimjam]

I think you are doing well for platinum.

You have less going out than coming in, and that is the important thing really.

Focus on efficiency, improving your max mana is not going to improve the speed you regain mana.

I was healing KC basement just fine with a 41 cleric with junk gear (and I mean junk; slots filled with mesh from guk. Under 120 wis)*.

Don't sit at 100% mana, this stops you from regaining mana with meditate; cast something useful. On the other hand don't waste mana (or med ticks) on casting unnecessary spells.

Check /who for enchanters in zone and /target their name. If you can target them ask them to /rtarget you and C.


*part of the reason I went to KC is the Jarsath armor actually upgraded a few of my slots.

If you try to use your mana efficiently and /role or /anon I am confident you can heal many/all of the camps there fine at your level. The helm, wrist and legs have good wisdom. The gloves have some mana. They all have good AC. Excellent choice on the robe, btw. Good fashion questing!

[Sage Truthbearer]

I peeped at your Magelo and your gear is more than adequate for your level. Congrats on getting the Aegis, that is the most horrible quest/camp in the game.

[Erati]

make sure the group gives you random drops no one really wants to hold that are mostly 300-500 vendor trash

if you are a good cleric, most groups will do what it can to keep you happy and sitting

[Buellen]

So the temple karana in Qeynos has the famous Bandit Sash quest.

What is this quest you ask Well the karana's are infested with bandit kill them. They will drop 1 or 2 gold in coins and the human monk looking ones can drop Bronze weapons. THEY also have a chance to drop BANDIT SASH.

AT your level these pose no threat. you can clear two camps easy look around you can find a couple close together in west karana.


slightly twinked (nothing fancy some hp rings and a decent 1hblunt) Enchanter level 9 to level 20 alone on bandtis and I had 1100 PP when I left West karana.

every 24 bandit sashes nets around 60 to 80pp depends on what bronze weapon you get when you turn in the sashes.

HOpe this helps someone\

PS The sash xp is really good and I have tested on 33 ranger still give XP noticeable shift in xp bar.

[fastboy21]

Start a raid guild, merge the guild, take the guild bank with you.

!

Who would do such a thing!?!? This is EQ!

[Jimjam]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Opalline_earring
https://wiki.project1999.com/Small_Fine_Plate_Helm
https://wiki.project1999.com/Split_Paw_Hide_Mask
https://wiki.project1999.com/Burynai_Legion_Gi
https://wiki.project1999.com/Regent_Symbol_of_Innoruuk
https://wiki.project1999.com/Hollowed_Bone_Bracers
https://wiki.project1999.com/Cloak_of_the_Ice_Bear
https://wiki.project1999.com/Thick_Leather_Apron
https://wiki.project1999.com/Carnal_Pauldrons
https://wiki.project1999.com/Golden_Jaded_Bracelet
https://wiki.project1999.com/Mesh_Leggings
https://wiki.project1999.com/Split_Paw_Hide_Gloves
https://wiki.project1999.com/Small_Bronze_Boots
https://wiki.project1999.com/Silver_Jasper_Ring
https://wiki.project1999.com/Journeyman%27s_Walking_Stick
https://wiki.project1999.com/Shield_of_the_Devout
https://wiki.project1999.com/Preserved_Split_Paw_Eye


i.e. only +10 wis and +110 mana

This was the equipment worn by the 41 cleric I helped level in KC basement. As you can see your equipment far out surpasses this. As such, I suggest if you are having problems healing in CoM, a far easier area, the problem does not lie with your equipment.

TBH, your gear should carry it to 60 if you let it. The fact you have 1k in the bank unspent suggests to me that you should not follow the advice of those encouraging you to waste your time on farming green mobs (unless you imagine that being fun).

If you do want to farm as a cleric, I suggest finding something you can defeat up to 25 mobs at a time with your point blank AoE line of spells.

[Swish]

If it isn't happening already it should be...

1. If an alpha loot system gets started, cleric goes before the first on the list.
2. If a peridot or similarly valued gem drops, give it to the cleric.
3. If a fire opal drops, that doesn't count as an alpha gem, it goes to the cleric :p

I always used to run that, and it came that way to me when I was playing my cleric (granted that's a while ago now). Hopefully it's still a thing, clerics shouldn't be losing money when grouping...and only the tank REALLY needs a symbol. If you're having to symbol a wizard that overaggros or someone other than maybe the puller, tell them to watch their aggro - and every time you heal the idiot restate your mana pool ;)

[turbosilk]

I wouldn't worry about it. All you need is enough plat to pay for spells and ports. You have more than enough for that. Keep grouping and leveling and gear and play will follow

[zaneosak]

I had 2000 plat at level 24 (only character at that time) so yes you're doing something wrong.

Want to give specifics of whether or not you camped anything or leveled in a certain area for an extended period of time? Or what class you are?

[Jimjam]

I had 2000 plat at level 24 (only character at that time) so yes you're doing something wrong.

The inverse could also said to be true. If you're only 24 by the time you have 2000 plat you are doing something wrong.

;)

[Rygar]

In Swamp of No Hope is where I made all the money I needed to 'get started' with gear, I was broke as hell before then.

There is this named frog called Soblohg, he drops like 3-9pp each loot and can drop nice vendor trash (like Ruby Crown that sells for 200p or other stuff selling 119p or so). Can also drop Jacinth, Diamonds, Black Sapphires, and Blue Diamonds.

The drop rate isn't that common, my record was something like 30 spawns with no drops, so not the greatest camp although I've had some great runs on the loot (like 6 drops in 14 kills or something). He has 2 spawn points, I think the wiki only lists the first one, his other one is on east side of zone near the zone wall along the water line, spawns next to a tree. He is a 6 min spawn but he is buggy, I've killed him and he has insta spawned on the other side.

As a cleric you can bind by his spawn point on east side, kill him, then run to his other spawn and kill him, gate back. Careful as a guard roams near him and I'm guessing you are KoS. If you don't kill his East spawn fast enough two things can happen: 1) He will roam towards cabilis and a guard will kill him, or 2) he will survive the cab run then wander north and get lost amongst the trees, can take a while to find him.

He's not a great farm for higher levels, but he got me all the gear I needed on my monk (haste, weapons, full Black panther, stat items for all my slots). Only pain is someone may be farming him and you either wait or are screwed. I probably made 15k on this guy by level 35, but Blue Diamond market was 2k each back then, more like 1k now.

Good luck if you try this! find me online for any questions.

[zaneosak]

Thanks for all the tips and tricks. I appreciate the fast replies from all of you -- nice community! :D