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Kelor
03-07-2017, 10:15 PM
Which race do you consider to be best for cleric?
Naethyn
03-07-2017, 11:12 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Disciple_Symbol_of_Brell_Serilis
Lhancelot
03-08-2017, 01:32 AM
Spit in the face of every min/maxer and go gnome.
Gnomes get wall vision.
Gnomes are tiny.
Gnomes are uber rare as clerics.
Gnomes wear robes.
Gnomes tinker.
Take the path least travelled. Go gnome.
***see above post for the best deity quest neck item in the game, and what race can wear it. Hint - it's gnome.
getsome
03-08-2017, 02:00 AM
Halfling cleric clearly the best choice.
snare neck is over rated and sneak > hide by a million.
Jimjam
03-08-2017, 02:16 AM
Gnomes are for dysfunctional drug addicts.
Halflings are for charismatic champs with a sneaky side to them.
Humans of Innoruuk are for those that want to quest novelty click gear.
Baler
03-08-2017, 04:19 AM
Dwarf is a strong choice but be aware your CHA will not be very good without items.
Dwarf has good str, sta and wis.
They also get +5 Magic Resist, +5 Poison Resist, Barrel Roll, and Infravision.
Their walk/run animation is pretty terrible imo.
deadlycupcakez
03-08-2017, 03:40 PM
female dark elf is the only answer actually
Bubbles
03-09-2017, 03:43 AM
I like to break it down by important attributes. STR for wearing plate mail and holding loot, STA for hitpoints, AGI for avoidance, and WIS for manapool.
Obviously WIS is the most important stat. STA doesnt return much for hps per pt, but its still more total hps. AGI obv isnt a huge deal, but it does add to AC and any extra chance to dodge to fire off a DA/Root/etc is worthwhile. STR is far more vital than you think. Hateplane/Kael/TOV armor is f*cking heavy, period. My cleric at various times of her levelling wore Thick Banded Belts, Dhamp cloaks, a vast supply of weight reduction bags, *anything* just to wear armor and loot enough fine steel and gems to offset peridot cost. No one wants to play a plate-wearing class who's constantly at 115/80 encumbered before the adventure even starts. Trust me, it sucks far more than any bit of min/max you gain at the end.
So that wall of explanation text out of the way here's the races and 4 prime stats:
Race------STR-STA-AGI-WIS--TOTAL
Dark Elf---65--70---90--93----318
Erudite----65--75---70--93----303
Gnome----65--75---85--77----302
Human----80--80---75--85----320
Halfling---75--80---95--90----340
High Elf---60--70---85-105----320
Dorf-------95--95---70--93----353
As you can see, Dorf and Halfling come out clearly on top, with the downside being both are on the lower end of the CHA scale (crit lull resists).
Pros: Both have excellent starting cities for newbie leveling. Rivervale a bit less cumbersome and confusing.
Both can wear small armor: If you spend any time in banded/bronze types of armor, the smaller versions weigh quite a bit less.. So even tho you are among the strongest cleric races, your armor weighs the least. Extra bonus for picking smartly!
Dorf cultural armor is better than anything short of TOV armor. Its borderline criminal how good their cultural plate armor is.
So not only go dorf, make sure your religion aligns with the cultural armor. Win at EQ.
Personal choice : halfling female. The plate pointy hat is a thing of absolutely beauty and worth +50 fashion quest points. Plus sneak is neat.
Bubbles
03-09-2017, 03:53 AM
FWIW-for anyone who wants to argue CHA is vital: If you are lull splitting camps on a cleric as your sole means to pull, make better groups. If you're worried about low CHA, it's really easy and cheap to carry around a crude stein and loot a frozenstone stein from CC to instantly bump up 25 pts in CHA for lull-pulling.
Worlds cheaper than having a higher CHA and trying to buy +STA +STR +WIS items from EC resellers :)
And I definitely echo the earlier sentiments of small races being able to use 'gnome vision' as positively the most useful racial attribute ever. And it works both indoor and outdoor unlike shrink! :)
Jimjam
03-09-2017, 05:00 AM
FWIW-for anyone who wants to argue CHA is vital: If you are lull splitting camps on a cleric as your sole means to pull, make better groups. If you're worried about low CHA, it's really easy and cheap to carry around a crude stein and loot a frozenstone stein from CC to instantly bump up 25 pts in CHA for lull-pulling.
Worlds cheaper than having a higher CHA and trying to buy +STA +STR +WIS items from EC resellers :)
And I definitely echo the earlier sentiments of small races being able to use 'gnome vision' as positively the most useful racial attribute ever. And it works both indoor and outdoor unlike shrink! :)
I tend to use lulls more to pull mobs from outside of line of sight (critical resist) than I do for actually splitting. Most groups can handle a couple of adds or have a better way of splitting.
Soloing it can be better to use snare/root zone/camp to acquire a single mob anyway.
Beyond this, Pacify is useful for trying to bypass see invis mobs, which can often be better handled with sneak (Halfling) or, erm, connection issues...
Rysky
03-13-2017, 10:30 AM
or, erm, connection issues...
GENIUS!
Zoesha
04-04-2017, 05:12 AM
Dark elf for snare cultural neck + robe + Hide.
Personally I found my DE cleric massively overpowered when hide was OP as shit. Being able to snare was epic, combined with donals BP for doing stuff.
You forgot to add that Dark elf has best Night Vision in game
Gustoo
04-06-2017, 05:37 PM
Min max would be a robe wearer of any kind.
Normal person choose race u will most enjoy.
loramin
04-06-2017, 05:42 PM
You forgot to add that Dark elf has best Night Vision in game
I don't think that's particularly relevant as long as P99 uses the Titanium client. My night-blind Barbarian can see just fine anywhere he goes.
loramin
04-06-2017, 05:46 PM
So not only go dorf, make sure your religion aligns with the cultural armor. Win at EQ.
Personal choice : halfling female. The plate pointy hat is a thing of absolutely beauty and worth +50 fashion quest points. Plus sneak is neat.
You left out the Halfling +5% XP bonus. Easy to dismiss at level 60, but very nice until then.
Troxx
04-07-2017, 03:04 AM
Halfling >= dwarf > the rest
Jimjam
04-07-2017, 06:04 AM
Whats so great about dwarfs? The beer?
As much as I like halflings, my static rerolled a Halfling to dark elf. Its working out well. People dismiss the snare, and if you don't click it is admittedly useless, but I've clicked that damn neck a hell of a lot.
Is the improved funquestfun for humans of innoruuk worth sacrificing hide for? With Paineel they have access to a few fun quests as well as the snare neck line.
Gustoo
04-12-2017, 11:06 AM
Dwarfs have best stats and cultural armor short of wearing bis robe at end game they are a great choice.
I would never roll dark elf because so many cities I can't enjoy.
But otherwise they are a great pick.
You really can't lose. Erudite probably the overall worst pick here.
Gustoo
04-12-2017, 11:49 AM
Dwarfs have best stats and cultural armor short of wearing bis robe at end game they are a great choice.
I would never roll dark elf because so many cities I can't enjoy.
But otherwise they are a great pick.
You really can't lose. Erudite probably the overall worst pick here.
IFSNews
04-20-2017, 03:13 AM
dark elves in the golden cleric armor is hard to beat for fashionquest.
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