Necro solo capabilities

[Bristlebaner]

I have a question for those of you that have achieved the upper echelon of status with the necro class...

What do you do at 60?

I ask this because I currently have a 60 enc and a 55 necro. I try to enjoy my necro after playing my enchanter but it seems like EQ asks a bunch of questions and my enchanter always has an answer...my necro, well, I'm left saying to myself "I should log on my enc, this would be way easier".

Once you hit 60 on a necro is there any thing you can really excel at that an enchanter can't do better?

I don't mean this as a flame to necros as I have one, but just curious if I'm missing out on some grand revelation. Perhaps I'm only viewing this through the lens of class power and solo ability.

[thebutthat]

Honestly, the only place I feel I have the upper hand over an enchanter as a necro is on Hill Giants and Seafuries where my pets and fear/root rotting are more efficient than charming.

There are places I can solo efficiently, like howling stones. But outside of that, it's usually messy and an enchanter could do it better.

[Doctor Jeff]

Honestly, the only place I feel I have the upper hand over an enchanter as a necro is on Hill Giants and Seafuries where my pets and fear/root rotting are more efficient than charming.



What?

Enchanter is way better at furies than a necro. Alize always lasts full duration at level 54, has 10k hp and can kill a fury in less than 30 seconds. You can clear the whole island by yourself in less than 10 minutes. All without going below 95% mana.

[Bristlebaner]

I have to agree with that also. If I charm the level 45 dwarf merchant give him a torch and haste him, he shreds a SF in about a quarter of the time it takes me to kill one on my necro wrong with the rogue pet.

In addition, I can easily take out any of the other annoying cyclops such as corrupted and Quag by slowing them and having my charm just dominate.

I can also sell in zone.

[thebutthat]

What?

Enchanter is way better at furies than a necro. Alize always lasts full duration at level 54, has 10k hp and can kill a fury in less than 30 seconds. You can clear the whole island by yourself in less than 10 minutes. All without going below 95% mana.

I stand corrected. Didn't even realize that dude was in the zone.

[Izmael]

Enchanter is a better soloer in almost all situations but it's a trade-off - necro has a much lower risk involved due to self heals, FD and insta invis.

So you gotta factor in all the times the enc dies and has to CR naked and maybe find a res, or sit for 15 minutes to regen lost HP, while necro can just tap an eye or a mob and be ready to go in a minute.

Of course if one is a godmode Enc who does Brood mother at level 54 with little difficulties, he probably never dies in EQ, so this doesn't apply. =)

[Bristlebaner]

Something has happened which I did not expect. I would go as far as to say my survivability on my enchanter is actually better than my necro

With close to 1000hp in runes and fast casting stuns, I find it much easier to recover from charm breaks. On my necro, if I have a hasted and dual wielding charm pet I find myself much more likely to die when it breaks. ST does not cast fast enough and it is resisted too often and I often find myself under 20% hit points on a recovery from a break.

Because of this, I usually don't haste and torch. Thus much lower DPS.

[Jmcwrestling]

I have a 60 ench and a 52 necro and I will say this


Once you color slant ... you never go back

[Doctor Jeff]

Looks like everyone disagrees with Izmael again

[nevilshute]

At 60 I think a necro is more limited than I had imagined. There are several things that a shammy/enc can do that is simply impossible as necro. Having said that there are decent solo spots you can do effectively as necro at 60 like SS or Kael. And the good thing about the necro as a soloer is the survivability/safety the necro offers. FD is about my favorite thing in EQ. Having small kids I often will sneak in some EQ here and there and FD is just amazing. Also being able to 93% rez yourself on top of the built-in efficiency of lich + life drain just makes for an all around great casual soloer.

But in terms of "min/max" soloing end-game stuff necro can't keep up with the chanter (or shaman)

[Izmael]

Looks like everyone disagrees with Izmael again

Someone has to be ahead of their time I guess.

[Emmin]

Just give in and play the enchanter.

[Bristlebaner]

Yeah - my necro is better at going AFK...which in the grand scheme of the game, is a pretty weak reason to play a class.

[Neric]

Once you hit 60 on a necro is there any thing you can really excel at that an enchanter can't do better?

I played both classes in the old days and the necro is clearly better outdoors, although it doesn't really show until Planes of Power which obviously doesn't matter on P99. In dungeons I would be pretty much indifferent as a player, but obviously the big point is that people love enchanters while they don't care about necros that much.

The problem on P99 is that the project simply skips the phase when necros were the most powerful class in the game. At one point, the lvl 49 pet armed with 2 fine steel daggers did more damage than a lvl 50 monk with Cloak of Flames. Since P99 started with the nerfed version there is certainly less incentive to play necro. Yet with a good guild it doesn't matter anyways.

[Izmael]

It's all situational... for example, in the last couple days I've seen two different necros trying to spawn Felia in Skyfire for their encs. :)