Necro Charm feasibility

[Motsu]

Hey all, first post. I'm a relatively new player that just came back from a year break or so. I've been playing an iksar necro which I just got to level 40 (this is my highest level character on the server).

So I've spent the entirety of my 30's charm killing and I went back to fear kiting today and it bores me to tears after charming for the last 10 levels. My question is - if I wanted to level/play exclusively through charming solo would it serve me to reroll as an enchanter or is there enough undead content to keep me occupied on my Necro?

I know Lguk has been mentioned many times but I was planning on visiting Kaesora. Is there any other places that come to mind that are quiet that I would be able to charm and get some exp at level 40?

Thanks!

[Caiu]

Kaesora --> Lguk ---> Howling Stones will get you 40 - 60 if charming is your bag.

[Baler]

The validity of necro charm leveling is actually quite good.
The benefit of FD even if it's a cast is super helpful.

As Caiu mentioned. Dead side of Lower Guk and Howling Stones (charasis). Just be aware that charasis will ruin your outpost faction in other there.

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More zones with some undead..
Tower of Frozen Shadow
Kithicor Forest (night time)
Emerald Jungle (apes)
Trakanon's Teeth
Dreadlands
City of Mist
Karnor's Castle
Burning Woods
Old Sebilis

[thebutthat]

CoM you can start at probably 44 or 45. But, if charming is what your after, rolling an enchanter might not be a terrible idea. It gives you a few more options of places to go and opens your tool box up some. I've been playing an enc and honestly the only thing I miss about my necro is the hp regen. Everything else along charming lines is much more enjoyable as an enc.

[jijii]

charming is hilariously better than any other form non-pl leveling, save for maybe bard swarm kiting. there's plenty of undead and necro's have great tools. i never looked back after level 20. even factoring in deaths from bad luck breaks, it's worth it.

get an insta charm breaking item, like pre nerf cos or gazaghi ring.

make friends with a cleric or sham if you want to duo.

[Razaz]

If you can't afford CoS, what is best way to break charm? Keep an invis memmed?

[Izmael]

FD will insta-break charm, racial hide will also work but not as reliably.

Getting a CoS is your #1 priorty for many reasons.

[Jitsumo]

So I've spent the entirety of my 30's charm killing and I went back to fear kiting today and it bores me to tears after charming for the last 10 levels. My question is - if I wanted to level/play exclusively through charming solo would it serve me to reroll as an enchanter or is there enough undead content to keep me occupied on my Necro?


Where did you charm in your 30s?

[Izmael]

If you like to SOLO charming more than anything, I'd definitely recommend sticking with necro.

Enchanter is good at killing solo but really shines when duoing with some kind of support class such as cleric or shaman or druid, etc. You can charm both living and undead and are a lot better at breaking tough spawns but the drawback is that if you get a bad run in with the RNG you'll have to sit on your butt regening back HP for a long time, die or cap out.

Necros have the very big get out of jail card called Feigh Death... Not to mention that you can heal yourself with life taps, significantly reducing downtime. It's a much more laid back class to play when soloing.

I would recommend playing both to about level 40 and just pick the one have most fun with. By 40, both classes are sufficiently representative of what they will be at 60 when it comes to charm soloing to make a somewhat informed decision.

[Motsu]

In my 30s I camped the skeletons in the crypt off the underwater tunnel in Field of Bone. All undead and they are dubious no matter what so if I got into trouble could just FD and start again. Was good to get an idea of the playstyle - really a great spot.

[Izmael]

I've been advertizing this spot (Sythrax servants) on the forums forever - people don't realize how incredible it is for a necro.

[Razaz]

I was trying the hags in Unrest but without a CoS, it was a bit of a pain to get a feel for it. If I cast FD too late, they could nuke each other to death. Sometimes one would still be 70% while the other was just about dead. They would also recast their rune while I was getting up from FD. Good exp but just didn't get into a groove at that camp, I'm sure CoS would of made it a lot smoother but too broke for one still unless someone wants to donate :D.

As an iksar it will be nice to be close to a friendly city for once again and try some charming, change it up from fear kiting I've mostly done up to this point.

I'm really waiting to get back to lguk, loved that zone on live and looking forward to getting to kill some frogs again.

[Siberious]

Don't charm undead tower in unrest, summon a skelly pet send in before they buff and nuke them dead/face tank with life taps once you out agro pet.

I did many levels there on my Necromancer up to 39, I think it was 34+ with new pet + dismiss undead (lvl 29) if you were 80%+ health and life tap (lvl 29) if you needed heal. Med in-between the 2 spawns, rinse and repeat.

They have less then 600hps without their runes so once camp is broken easy to send pet and nuke them down fast and med (nuking at least twice to out DPS pet). Using charm/lulls to break camp makes sense though.

[Razaz]

Yeah, that's what I ended up doing. Was trying to get a handle on the charm thing but just wasn't the right camp for it.

[Siberious]

Yeah, that's what I ended up doing. Was trying to get a handle on the charm thing but just wasn't the right camp for it.

In general charming caster mobs can get annoying when balancing hps, i did enjoy the nuking aspect since as a necro it is not efficient later on. Plenty of time will be spent charming past level 39-40, it was one of my favorite active xp camps though with the short timers and having to keep them dead so they don't self buff.

[thebutthat]

In general charming caster mobs can get annoying when balancing hps, i did enjoy the nuking aspect since as a necro it is not efficient later on. Plenty of time will be spent charming past level 39-40, it was one of my favorite active xp camps though with the short timers and having to keep them dead so they don't self buff.

Make the caster sit if you don't want it to nuke. Cancels their cast and lets you manage the fight.

[NecroP99]

You can easily charm your way to 60 as a necro - most of the best spots are undead anyways.

CoM 2nd/3rd floor
KC
Howling Stones
Seb

Plus necro is about 1000x cooler than enchanter

[articnv]

As necro u can start charming in com solo at stables at 44/45. Dmf ivu to the backof the stables run up the ramp and across charm the guy up there and send it done to atatck your clearign from the back side out so u gets mobs 1 vrs 1. if your twinked u can root the first mob and pull theothr undead and root them untop of each other and just use them to grind down fast. At 48 you can do temple or moat with dmf up u should never die unless u geta reaver train as u can kite back forth across the water or bridges to kite the mobs if u get a bad break. 50 - 54 u cna do 2nd floor 54 + i woudl say 3d floor. I play oof peak tiems so i had my choice of camps. If your going to level in com i would wait til some is clearing 2nd and then go bidn on top of arnea. As a necro i completly skiped arnea as there was not enuff mobs. and i had to muich down time.

[blondeattk]

at lvl 20 how do you deal with a charm break? its 5 secs to recharm, which is a long time to channel hits!

http://wiki.project1999.com/Shieldskin

mob wont take long to burn through that.

or do i take it that charming at 20 isnt really much fun/practical? eg wait till 24 and screaming terror?

[Izmael]

You can charm at 20. FD is your best friend in case of a break at these levels because

1. It auto blurs mobs at these levels - stand up right away and recharm or w/e
2. Spells like ST, root, etc are a) resisted a lot, b) are expensive mana-wise (same spell when you are lvl 50+ costs nothing though)

Just FD, if it fails, strafe run until it refreshesabd FD again

Even at high levels, FD is often the best option in case of a charm break - if anything, it is faster cast than ST or root.