Official Everquest Progression Server Release

[Slathar]

The live date for the time-locked progression server has now been announced as Tuesday 15th February - so earlier than the originally suggested date of March.

A few interesting things from the offical faq -

What sort of items and content will and will not be available at launch on Fippy?

* For the Fippy Darkpaw Server we have done our absolute best to remove items which would give an inappropriate or undue advantage such as Defiant Armor or certain tradeskill related items. Generally the items that you will find should be items that came with the expansion currently available or were unlocked during that expansion. Augments created specifically for progression servers will be available.

Will there be Hotzones or Hotzone drops??

* Hotzones and Hotzone items will not be available on Fippy at release

How about Marketplace items, will Mounts be available?

* In addition to restrictions on items initially available within the game, Marketplace, Loyalty, and Claim items have been similarly addressed. If an item or buff offers stats, it will probably not be offered from any of those methods until a later date. Mounts will not be available until Legacy of Ykesha is unlocked or later, depending on the mount.

How will tradeskills work on Fippy Darkpaw?

* We have made efforts to limit tradeskills to the expansion when the recipe actually came out. Potion making and jewelry making have had the old recipes enabled, and these will stay this way until the Prophecy of Ro expansion is unlocked. Similarly the new poisons will not be activated until around Underfoot. The exception is spell research where we will not reverse it to the older method. Instead, we have limited recipes for the appropriate expansion and made ingredients for research available in more zones..

How will progression work on Fippy Darkpaw?

* As with the previous progression servers, players will need to defeat certain challenges to unlock newer expansions. Once these challenges have been defeated there will be a grace period where the server will stay in the current expansion. After the grace period, players will be able to vote through an in game poll to unlock the next expansion. The voting period will be one week.

Initially the grace period will be 90 days before voting will start for Kunark, then 60 days for each expansion after that. At some point we will even have a vote to see if players wish to change that grace period.

[Scrooge]

They're gonna have augments on a classic server..!?

[Goobles]

The live date for the time-locked progression server has now been announced as Tuesday 15th February - so earlier than the originally suggested date of March.

A few interesting things from the offical faq -

What sort of items and content will and will not be available at launch on Fippy?

* For the Fippy Darkpaw Server we have done our absolute best to remove items which would give an inappropriate or undue advantage such as Defiant Armor or certain tradeskill related items. Generally the items that you will find should be items that came with the expansion currently available or were unlocked during that expansion. Augments created specifically for progression servers will be available.

Will there be Hotzones or Hotzone drops??

* Hotzones and Hotzone items will not be available on Fippy at release

How about Marketplace items, will Mounts be available?

* In addition to restrictions on items initially available within the game, Marketplace, Loyalty, and Claim items have been similarly addressed. If an item or buff offers stats, it will probably not be offered from any of those methods until a later date. Mounts will not be available until Legacy of Ykesha is unlocked or later, depending on the mount.

How will tradeskills work on Fippy Darkpaw?

* We have made efforts to limit tradeskills to the expansion when the recipe actually came out. Potion making and jewelry making have had the old recipes enabled, and these will stay this way until the Prophecy of Ro expansion is unlocked. Similarly the new poisons will not be activated until around Underfoot. The exception is spell research where we will not reverse it to the older method. Instead, we have limited recipes for the appropriate expansion and made ingredients for research available in more zones..

How will progression work on Fippy Darkpaw?

* As with the previous progression servers, players will need to defeat certain challenges to unlock newer expansions. Once these challenges have been defeated there will be a grace period where the server will stay in the current expansion. After the grace period, players will be able to vote through an in game poll to unlock the next expansion. The voting period will be one week.

Initially the grace period will be 90 days before voting will start for Kunark, then 60 days for each expansion after that. At some point we will even have a vote to see if players wish to change that grace period.


/em revs up his engines..

[muddy27]

No thanks $OE im partying like its 1999. After awhile who knows people could vote to have expansions open after 1 month. They could have done a much better job on this like someone else mentioned augments at start? . And im also suprised its opening up a whole month ahead of schedule. They could have used that time to tweak things and make them more original. Also I had a feeling the marketplace would be in... my 2 copper.

[Slathar]

No thanks $OE im partying like its 1999. After awhile who knows people could vote to have expansions open after 1 month. They could have done a much better job on this like someone else mentioned augments at start? . And im also suprised its opening up a whole month ahead of schedule. They could have used that time to tweak things and make them more original. Also I had a feeling the marketplace would be in... my 2 copper.

they can't vote to have them opened after one month. they have to beat certain targets and then the grace period of 60 days is applied. so that means at minimum 2 months.

the marketplace isn't in yet.

[muddy27]

They still could have done better, I wont be playing though. Ive made good friends here and im having fun no need to run to them. I actually logged into my old station account and made a post about 1999 in the newb forums on a thread about the prog server :p also might have a guy joining our server he said if the prog. server doesent turn out to be his slice of cake he's a vet from release.

[girth]

That sounds amazing.

[Harrison]

First one was a fail and this will be too.

[ElanoraBryght]

Sounds awesome. More people should play.
Shoo. Go. You know who you are.

[Slathar]

harrison isnt playing

+1

[Japan]

The first time EQ-playing retards were allowed to vote on something of consequence, SOE opened the 51/50 shitfest. Whatever is the shortest or most extreme option will be chosen (YEAH NO GRACE PERIOD!). Fuck it.

[Harrison]

harrison isnt playing

+1

Yeah, wouldn't matter to you anyways. I'd be 50 by the time you got your first crushbone belt and cried about being trained at the zoneline.

[Slathar]

Yeah, wouldn't matter to you anyways. I'd be 50 by the time you got your first crushbone belt and cried about being trained at the zoneline.

cool being unemployed and spending 8+ hours a day on the computer

you're amazing

[Harrison]

Yeah, I must be unemployed to be better than you at a game.

That's it. Call Columbo back and tell him you've cracked the case. Retard.

[Itchybottom]

I'm finding it difficult to not reactive an account and go play the new progression server. Going to have a lot of free time starting Feb 23, and I can't decide if I want to ruin this server or live :p

[Slathar]

Yeah, I must be unemployed to be better than you at a game.

That's it. Call Columbo back and tell him you've cracked the case. Retard.

who is columbo? some redneck icon?

[Dac321]

lame.

[Slathar]

the only thing i don't like about this is that they mentioned there may be augments in each expansion. this sounds like bullshit to me.

but ill still play there as the raiding scene will be much better than here hopefully

[muddy27]

Also if I wanted to play a game were theres no penalty for death hardly or certain challenges diminished I would just go play some newer game were people die just to quick travel. EQ to me is about original mechanics of the game and about the classicness of it and what made EQ EQ. MMO's years ago were more hardcore and challenging aside from the handful on one hand I can count today. The Everquest of today is not the same and it sucks. The new mechanics are still there.

[Scrooge]

It's just like the time they put up the Discord FFA PvP server for a month, it was "classic content" with LDON camps and Adventure Stones (so you could port around the world using that,) as well as spells (like Breeze) which weren't in until Kunark, and even the spell levels were the newer version where you get spells every level as a caster as opposed to every 4....the list goes on and on.

SOE is all about the $$, and making the game harder in their eyes means; people won't play as long, therefore less $$ in their coffers. They look at WoW, see how easy it is and appealing to so many players, that there really is no reason for them to "devamp" EQ the way it's being done here, on P99. This is also true for almost every other MMO that has a private server counterpart, the closest thing to a classic server for any older MMO these days will always be made by fans for fans.

[Harrison]

I bet you still get spells on the new list, and not the old every 4 or 5 levels one.

[Harrison]

who is columbo? some redneck icon?

Hey, he enjoys shooting. He must be a redneck.

You're pretty sheltered, aren't you?

It's pretty difficult to be a redneck when you grew up in the ghetto as a kid.

[mitic]

The live date for the time-locked progression server has now been announced as Tuesday 15th February - so earlier than the originally suggested date of March.


P99 Kunark on Monday 14th February at the latest, uve heard it here first.

[mitic]

but ill still play there as the raiding scene will be much better than here hopefully

L.O.L.

ps: oh u finished the sentence with hopefully, so its just a small lol then, but still a lol.

[Japan]

It's just like the time they put up the Discord FFA PvP server for a month, it was "classic content" with LDON camps and Adventure Stones (so you could port around the world using that,) as well as spells (like Breeze) which weren't in until Kunark, and even the spell levels were the newer version where you get spells every level as a caster as opposed to every 4....the list goes on and on.

the point of the temporary COMPETITIVE PVP SERVER WITH PERMADEATH was not to recreate a "classic experience". This is not comparable in any way. Discord was one of the last good things i remember Sony doing, and shame on you for shitting on it.

[Scrooge]

the point of the temporary COMPETITIVE PVP SERVER WITH PERMADEATH was not to recreate a "classic experience". This is not comparable in any way. Discord was one of the last good things i remember Sony doing, and shame on you for shitting on it.

I agree that Discord was one of the best things SOE ever did with the game, despite all the bs cheating and GMs not giving two shits about it. However, my point is; SOE's version of a classic server is not as classic as it sounds.

[redghosthunter]

Alright ... LOTS of grouchy people on this thread...

I intend on playing... Sure the spell lists will not be classic... graphics not classic... and other stuff, but it seems like $OE has realized, FINALLY what the players really wanted. AND actually delivered. I feel if we don't support this server-- Live EQ will never make its way back to the good old days. If the Flippy Darkpaw Server is packed $OE might notice what a great game they had. Hell maybe they can take a different turn this time around...

IM IN ! Who wants to guild up on the new server? < P1999ers > hehe

BUMP this thread if ya wanta go live Feb 15 th. Ill be ready to go 24 hrs at least.

[muddy27]

Alright ... LOTS of grouchy people on this thread...

I intend on playing... Sure the spell lists will not be classic... graphics not classic... and other stuff, but it seems like $OE has realized, FINALLY what the players really wanted. AND actually delivered. I feel if we don't support this server-- Live EQ will never make its way back to the good old days. If the Flippy Darkpaw Server is packed $OE might notice what a great game they had. Hell maybe they can take a different turn this time around...

IM IN ! Who wants to guild up on the new server? < P1999ers > hehe

BUMP this thread if ya wanta go live Feb 15 th. Ill be ready to go 24 hrs at least.

$OE FINALLY had there change a good while ago, and they blew there load. Have fun if thats what suits you to each his own. And another reason why I think they released in Feb. instead of March on the EQ anniversary is to pull players away from the Rift Beta thats hot and heavy from what I understand. Theres always a tactic with them. They could have spent that extra month tweaking the prog. servers. like ive said before..

[Harrison]

Lol you have this server here, and you're going to go to Sony's?

*facepalm*

[redghosthunter]

I keep walking away from EMU due to, due to issues... Overall this is the BEST EQ we can get. I enjoy lvling up new chars and seems like we have been SCREAMing at $OE for a long long time for this... Hate to see it pass us bye.

Whats $15 bucks? If its yet another butchery... No biggie. Hell I love being one of the firsts...

Good to see ya Face.

[Harrison]

So basically you're saying, "I know it will be less of a polished product than what we have, and nowhere near as true to classic, but I'm going to go pay them money for a shit product."

You are the very reason companies keep producing shit products and getting away with it.

[Otto]

So basically you're saying, "I know it will be less of a polished product than what we have, and nowhere near as true to classic, but I'm going to go pay them money for a shit product."

You are the very reason companies keep producing shit products and getting away with it.

Quoted for truth~

[Scrooge]

Take it easy fellas, everyone is entitled to their own opinion of what makes a game worth playing, no?

[muddy27]

Release the Hounds!

[Bodeanicus]

So basically you're saying, "I know it will be less of a polished product than what we have, and nowhere near as true to classic, but I'm going to go pay them money for a shit product."

You are the very reason companies keep producing shit products and getting away with it.

Not having to put up with loudmouth, blowhard faggots like you is worth it. By the way, you're not fooling anyone with that gun picture. We all know you're a pussy.

[Randy]

Should be interesting. It'll be a boxfest on there.

[Icecometus]

Should be interesting. It'll be a boxfest on there.

didn't think about that... that is gonna be pretty lame.

[Honus]

Alright ... LOTS of grouchy people on this thread...

I intend on playing... Sure the spell lists will not be classic... graphics not classic... and other stuff, but it seems like $OE has realized, FINALLY what the players really wanted. AND actually delivered. I feel if we don't support this server-- Live EQ will never make its way back to the good old days. If the Flippy Darkpaw Server is packed $OE might notice what a great game they had. Hell maybe they can take a different turn this time around...

IM IN ! Who wants to guild up on the new server? < P1999ers > hehe

BUMP this thread if ya wanta go live Feb 15 th. Ill be ready to go 24 hrs at least.
$OE had 9 years to realize what a great game they had. They wanted to ram their cocks (51/50) down our throats instead of inviting back a HUGE base of players that wanted some type of classic experience. They can suck a dick and choke on a load. $15 a month, in my opinion, would be much better spent donating here. I'm mad, brew.

[Harrison]

Not having to put up with loudmouth, blowhard faggots like you is worth it. By the way, you're not fooling anyone with that gun picture. We all know you're a pussy.

To quote other trolls: "ya he mad"

No one cares about your opinion old man.

[Icecometus]

also this:

"Currently we don't plan to re-enable items left on corpses. We may put this up for a vote some time after the server launches though."

Poosays.

[muddy27]

$OE had 9 years to realize what a great game they had. They wanted to ram their cocks (51/50) down our throats instead of inviting back a HUGE base of players that wanted some type of classic experience. They can suck a dick and choke on a load. $15 a month, in my opinion, would be much better spent donating here. I'm mad, brew.

Aye, donate money to a GOOD cause.

[Kebin]

also this:

"Currently we don't plan to re-enable items left on corpses. We may put this up for a vote some time after the server launches though."

Poosays.

Man....I guess I had no idea how live EQ is nowadays? Do you still lose exp?

[Goobles]

What's holding us back from throwing racial slurs here? If you don't like it, don't say anything. The person is obviously giving people a heads up. If you don't want to go back, DON'T. But don't be telling people how to spend their money.

[Haynar]

If they had a fixed 1 year per expansion ... maybe. If I needed to blaze through an expansion every 60-90 days to keep up, no thanks.

90 days, 60 days, it will become the same as the other progression servers.

Too many expansions, too fast is what killed EQ.

The voting is a great idea. But only if it drags out when expansions are released.

H

[KilyenaMage]

I agree that Discord was one of the best things SOE ever did with the game, despite all the bs cheating and GMs not giving two shits about it. However, my point is; SOE's version of a classic server is not as classic as it sounds.

Fun Fact about Discord Server:

The winners were never given the "advertised" prize of having an item named after them!!!

[Badmartigan]

ill play if i can get a guise of the deceiver... /end

[L2Phantom]

Server sounds fantastic. Totally stoked, they are really putting a lot of attention to detail on Fippy.

[Anderdale]

ill play if i can get a guise of the deceiver... /end

exactly. this server is already old.. no more guise, mistwalker, pegi cloak isn't insta cast. I need TRUE CLASSIC!

[Chippy]

exactly. this server is already old.. no more guise, mistwalker, pegi cloak isn't insta cast. I need TRUE CLASSIC!


That would be the only reason I would give it a go, but even then it's slim...They collected enough of my money over the years.

[Omnimorph]

It'll be the same as the other prog servers, a quick way to make a buck or two. At no point do they care about the integrity of the game, or the opinions of their player base.

Hell, on the prog server you had all those zones, but everyone was exping in stonebrunt, the warrens, jagged pine, the hole. All because the exp was the best in those zones.

I'm sceptical about the TLP server, but at the same time some of my fondest EQ memories were from the combine... will i be playing it? Doubtful, but with the servers being time locked, i'll always be able to log on and catch up. Also SoE will probably finally realise that they can make more money now by releasing older content on their servers to try and gather old-time players who don't like modern MMO's.

Not sure how they're gonna do the whole manastone / guise of deceiver thing on the TLP, will be interesting to see.

[redghosthunter]

I'm finding it difficult to not reactive an account and go play the new progression server. Going to have a lot of free time starting Feb 23, and I can't decide if I want to ruin this server or live :p

Heeh, House Arrest again Itchy? :)

[redghosthunter]

They can suck a dick and choke on a load. $15 a month, in my opinion, would be much better spent donating here. I'm mad, brew.

Not a bad idea

[guineapig]

If they had a fixed 1 year per expansion ... maybe. If I needed to blaze through an expansion every 60-90 days to keep up, no thanks.

90 days, 60 days, it will become the same as the other progression servers.

Too many expansions, too fast is what killed EQ.

The voting is a great idea. But only if it drags out when expansions are released.

H

^^^This!!!^^^

Not enough time to level up all the alts I would want to make.

I'm probably the only person on this server who isn't tapping his feet for Kunark as I still need a couple more level 50's.

[Loke]

If it was a year per expansion and I had to spend another year doing classic there is no way I'd play. It is 90 days after the unlock requirements are met, which I think is perfect. The top guild will meet the requirements, then 90 or 60 days will give other guilds time to catch up - making the raiding scene constantly competitive upon expansion unlocks AND giving the casual players at least 3 months or so to enjoy expansions (about triple what they got on combine).

I personally think the server will be a lot of fun.

[Messianic]

Has anyone considered the possibility of using the progression server to collect source/whatever data for p99? ;)

[Erasong]

If it was a year per expansion and I had to spend another year doing classic there is no way I'd play. It is 90 days after the unlock requirements are met, which I think is perfect. The top guild will meet the requirements, then 90 or 60 days will give other guilds time to catch up - making the raiding scene constantly competitive upon expansion unlocks AND giving the casual players at least 3 months or so to enjoy expansions (about triple what they got on combine).

I personally think the server will be a lot of fun.

[Slathar]

If it was a year per expansion and I had to spend another year doing classic there is no way I'd play. It is 90 days after the unlock requirements are met, which I think is perfect. The top guild will meet the requirements, then 90 or 60 days will give other guilds time to catch up - making the raiding scene constantly competitive upon expansion unlocks AND giving the casual players at least 3 months or so to enjoy expansions (about triple what they got on combine).

I personally think the server will be a lot of fun.

i couldnt have said it better honestly

[Haynar]

Has anyone considered the possibility of using the progression server to collect source/whatever data for p99? ;)
I will be in old cazic thule taking data as fast as I can.

I also want to get in paw too, and see what it is like. See what version they put up.

I have a live account for gathering data, comparing mechanics, etc., lately I have been doing it all the time. I am going to have to suck it up and update a lot of seq opcodes though. I am so lazy. Oh well, its all for the greater good.

H

[Messianic]

I will be in old cazic thule taking data as fast as I can.

I also want to get in paw too, and see what it is like. See what version they put up.

I have a live account for gathering data, comparing mechanics, etc., lately I have been doing it all the time. I am going to have to suck it up and update a lot of seq opcodes though. I am so lazy. Oh well, its all for the greater good.

H

Haha, I figured you guys would think of that before me.

[Haynar]

I'm finding it difficult to not reactive an account and go play the new progression server. Going to have a lot of free time starting Feb 23, and I can't decide if I want to ruin this server or live :p

laff

I never have much free time anymore.

I guess you have to do what would be the most fun. I quit trying to ruin stuff back when I got all my accounts banned on diablo 2.

Playing is not a challenge anymore. Dealing with hacks, just a pain. I do have fun replicating the mechanics. That is what is fun to me.

To each their own. It is all entertainment.

H

[mitic]

and i thougt that all this ppl onP99 are playin here because they disliked instances, pop books, revamped zones etc..

new progression might be classic in some way (the first month) but the inevitable will come back sooner or later anyways so why bother going there first place

ps:i bet that dyes, all current live spells, new age spell levels, turbo mana/hp regen, most of current live tradeskill recipes, newbie quest armor on par with stats of fear/hate armor will be in game on launch day

[Scrooge]

ps:i bet that dyes, all current live spells, new age spell levels, turbo mana/hp regen, most of current live tradeskill recipes, newbie quest armor on par with stats of fear/hate armor will be in game on launch day

Sad part of all this is, you're most likely right!

[mitic]

just out of curiousity, how can i have an emu and a live everquest client on the same computer without messing up one of both clients?

new progression might be some additional entertainment inbetween while all bosses are down on p99 ;)

[Maurk]

^^
Put all the p1999 data on a usb, then play the regular EQ client on your pc, and use your usb for p1999. balllinnn

[girth]

Sad part of all this is, you're most likely right!

I know they said the OOC hp/mana regen would be taken out until it's correct expansion. They are also taking out defiant armor and putting in old alchemy/jc recipes.

I'd expect a lot more info after the question/answer session on the 10th.

[girth]

so why bother going there first place



Because prog servers are a raiders dream. Plus I wanna do Luclin/PoP again.

[Loke]

just out of curiousity, how can i have an emu and a live everquest client on the same computer without messing up one of both clients?

new progression might be some additional entertainment inbetween while all bosses are down on p99 ;)

Rename the folder to something else and assign a shortcut to each one.

P99 for me is - program files/sony/everquest
Live is - program files/everquest

Have one shortcut named P99 that directs to the first location and a second named Live that directs to the second.

[mitic]

I know they said the OOC hp/mana regen would be taken out until it's correct expansion. They are also taking out defiant armor and putting in old alchemy/jc recipes.

I'd expect a lot more info after the question/answer session on the 10th.

iam installing the launchpad and downloading files on a different directory rite now..works too rite? or does it get messed up as soon i start patchin

ps: thx loke

[girth]

iam installing the launchpad and downloading files on a different directory rite now..works too rite? or does it get messed up as soon i start patchin

ps: thx loke

You should be fine unless you run the patcher in the p99 directory.

[Kingofqueens123]

Everything that "ruined" EQ will come out with the exspansion that it originally came out with. OOC reg, mounts, ect ect. Or w/e people didn't like that = rage :)

[mitic]

I know they said the OOC hp/mana regen would be taken out until it's correct expansion. They are also taking out defiant armor and putting in old alchemy/jc recipes.

I'd expect a lot more info after the question/answer session on the 10th.

they said that also years ago about recipes when they opened combine/sleeper and did a half assed job on this. i made a fortune with those ceramic bands, crucible of escape, faithstones and the like in the first 2 months

[mitic]

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=173067#2613946

well, is there anything else to say about the upcoming progression server? ;)

[Harrison]

They are so terrible at their jobs that it's disgusting.

[Hobby]

The funny thing is, even though everyone knows it will suck..they will still flock to it.

[Slathar]

its going to have a huge population for 3-4 months and taper off but i think it will be fun to start over at level 1.

i think that is the appeal for a lot of people really. there just isn't anything to do on p1999 right now for people who have multiple level 50s with maxed skills and some decent equipment. so why not give it a try?

[Secrets]

The most vocal way to express your displeasure about this Fippy Darkpaw server and the voting would be, get this, to sway the vote each time it pops up. Eventually, the devs will realize what the community wants, and will disable the vote entirely. The only reason they did not release a classic server is because they have no legitimate way of judging if that's what people actually want.

With Project 1999 and an ever-growing nostalgic potential playerbase, it is no wonder that if there is a demand for it, they will supply it.

If you have an active live account, I advise you to sway the vote as yes on Kunark, and no on Velious. Besides P1999, it's the only way you are going to get an official 'classic' experience. Maybe someone, someday will solve the glowing black stone quest mystery, and we can implement it here. There's a ton of content left undiscovered in EverQuest according to Sony, and honestly none of it is going to be discovered unless some sort of classic server is made by them. (who would be in kael, qeynos hills, etc, at 90?)

I dream that one day P1999 and SOE could collaborate to bring back those zones they removed, the exact formulas for how things are spawned, basically being the most perfect thing. In fact I am surprised that SOE did not even send us an email (not a C&D of course :P) asking to collaborate with P1999 data and compare it versus theirs and provide an unmatched classic experience. P1999 has the potential, if it were an official SOE product, to outsell any new EQ expansion pack that is coming out by sheer subscription fees alone. There's 600 players on P1999 on peak hours eastern time, around the same in the mornings & afternoons, so multiply that 600 by 3.

That's 1600 * 15 per month plus the extra people that could be coming in because it's officially supported by Sony and refuse to play P1999 for legal reasons. Sony could potentially be making a lot of cash with little effort by their part. With house of thule selling anywhere from 25k-144k copies (estimated by the amount of people logged into general chat at peak hours), and the amount of development time it takes for each expansion plus costs for those developers, it would basically be a new cash cow bigger than the SC marketplace for them. Some of us already play SOE games, so that would increase their station access subs a lot too.

About the marketplace on fippy... Personally I wouldn't mind the marketplace. Sure, it will not be classic but it will fill in the gap for the "ebay" part of the classic era. I mean, we trade items for favors here, there's no reason why RMT for items shouldn't be allowed (plus Sony would likely be upset if their games didn't have a marketplace. though there is none in DCUO, so maybe... dunno.)

All in all I am really excited to see the community input for Fippy. Not so much the gameplay, I never liked classic but the people that do... they love it.

[Harrison]

The most vocal way to express your displeasure about this Fippy Darkpaw server and the voting would be, get this, to sway the vote each time it pops up. Eventually, the devs will realize what the community wants, and will disable the vote entirely. The only reason they did not release a classic server is because they have no legitimate way of judging if that's what people actually want.

With Project 1999 and an ever-growing nostalgic potential playerbase, it is no wonder that if there is a demand for it, they will supply it.

If you have an active live account, I advise you to sway the vote as yes on Kunark, and no on Velious. Besides P1999, it's the only way you are going to get an official 'classic' experience. Maybe someone, someday will solve the glowing black stone quest mystery, and we can implement it here. There's a ton of content left undiscovered in EverQuest according to Sony, and honestly none of it is going to be discovered unless some sort of classic server is made by them. (who would be in kael, qeynos hills, etc, at 90?)

I dream that one day P1999 and SOE could collaborate to bring back those zones they removed, the exact formulas for how things are spawned, basically being the most perfect thing. In fact I am surprised that SOE did not even send us an email (not a C&D of course :P) asking to collaborate with P1999 data and compare it versus theirs and provide an unmatched classic experience. P1999 has the potential, if it were an official SOE product, to outsell any new EQ expansion pack that is coming out by sheer subscription fees alone. There's 600 players on P1999 on peak hours eastern time, around the same in the mornings & afternoons, so multiply that 600 by 3.

That's 1600 * 15 per month plus the extra people that could be coming in because it's officially supported by Sony and refuse to play P1999 for legal reasons. Sony could potentially be making a lot of cash with little effort by their part. With house of thule selling anywhere from 25k-144k copies (estimated by the amount of people logged into general chat at peak hours), and the amount of development time it takes for each expansion plus costs for those developers, it would basically be a new cash cow bigger than the SC marketplace for them. Some of us already play SOE games, so that would increase their station access subs a lot too.

About the marketplace on fippy... Personally I wouldn't mind the marketplace. Sure, it will not be classic but it will fill in the gap for the "ebay" part of the classic era. I mean, we trade items for favors here, there's no reason why RMT for items shouldn't be allowed (plus Sony would likely be upset if their games didn't have a marketplace. though there is none in DCUO, so maybe... dunno.)

All in all I am really excited to see the community input for Fippy. Not so much the gameplay, I never liked classic but the people that do... they love it.

The problem with all of this is that we have utter retards willing to pay them for a half-assed server. (look in this thread...)

They're not going to put any effort in, or compromise, when they can get away with their bullshit now.

Personally, they can keep those pricks. We don't even like them here.

[Sixpence]

The problem with all of this is that we have utter retards willing to pay them for a half-assed server. (look in this thread...)

They're not going to put any effort in, or compromise, when they can get away with their bullshit now.

Personally, they can keep those pricks. We don't even like them here.



What are you, 12? People will play on it because they want to.

Yep, that's about it....doesn't mean they're anymore of a Pr*ck that you are.

[Isidro]

Slathar, thanks for the heads up on the early release date! Server sounds like it will be a good time.

PS: Harrison, does this mean that you aren't going to be joining my progression server guild anymore?



Isidro
Guild Leader of <Imaginary Combat Medics>

[guineapig]

Anyone who has not played on a true classic server (ie: this one, or live circa 1999-2001) is not going to really mind the way Sony does this progression server.

It's mainly people like us who know what can truly be done to relive the classic experience who will be massively jaded by the way it's run.

Just my opinion.

[Otto]

The fact that the server will succeed is not because there are idiots who will pay for a half assed server.... they just don't understand what a good job would be like.

Well, at least that is part of it. I also think people that leave this place for fippy are making a mistake. I guarantee that place will be more lenient on boxing and 3rd party programs than this server. Not to mention all the exploitable bugs that won't get fixed because of their 'limited dev resources'.

[Rogean]

Go play the server, spread the word about P99, come back for Kunark.

[Otto]

Really should use it as a springboard for more players for this server.

I wouldn't trust any code from the server though... probably altered or from past classic.

[hueylewis187]

More lenient on boxing Otto ? ummmm yeah , you can 12 box there if you want.
Most of the dupe bugs are fixed on eq live though.
The people won't poop sock it as much. Or hack into the back of the server for raid target spawn times.
Gm's won't ban people for no reason.
Kunark will be out in less than 3 years.
They won't have ex-devs that Didn't really care for classic eq... like Secrets working on a classic server.
It won't be as classic as this server, but it won't have the pathing issues of this server either.
SoE will probably send the shut down P1999 papers to Rogean shortly after release of fippy for showing people how to illegally download the client in the startup guide. Just an educated guess.

I had a lot of fun on this server, but too many drawbacks.

[Slathar]

More lenient on boxing Otto ? ummmm yeah , you can 12 box there if you want.
Most of the dupe bugs are fixed on eq live though.
The people won't poop sock it as much. Or hack into the back of the server for raid target spawn times.
Gm's won't ban people for no reason.
Kunark will be out in less than 3 years.
They won't have ex-devs that Didn't really care for classic eq... like Secrets working on a classic server.
It won't be as classic as this server, but it won't have the pathing issues of this server either.
SoE will probably send the shut down P1999 papers to Rogean shortly after release of fippy for showing people how to illegally download the client in the startup guide. Just an educated guess.

I had a lot of fun on this server, but too many drawbacks.

project1999 isn't going to get shut down. you sound bitter.

[fastboy21]

If they had a fixed 1 year per expansion ... maybe. If I needed to blaze through an expansion every 60-90 days to keep up, no thanks.

90 days, 60 days, it will become the same as the other progression servers.

Too many expansions, too fast is what killed EQ.

The voting is a great idea. But only if it drags out when expansions are released.

H

interesting, because one of my biggest issues with p99 is that progression is too slow.

on p99 CASUAL players are walking around with multiple 50 toons and in full raid gear with the exception of high end sky.

i will be playing on p99 and the new live server. if they use the same "roll back" as the last progression server it will be classic enough for me to enjoy, and I have always liked the idea of starting fresh on a new server.

heck, if p99 offered a new server I would start there too.

so much hate here. what do you care if someone wants to go pay 15$ to play a game (well, 30$ since I'll be boxing there).

[Rogean]

Most of the dupe bugs are fixed on eq live though.

"Most".

I'm not aware of any dupe bugs on P99 that exist at the moment, so therefor.. "All" dupe bugs are fixed on P99 though.

The people won't poop sock it as much.

Apparently you never played combine, but good luck with that assumption.

Or hack into the back of the server for raid target spawn times.

Never happened.

Gm's won't ban people for no reason.

Neither will they here. The difference is we are more strict about the rules we put in place, and people that disagree with those rules and think they can get away with it are met with a rude awakening. On live, you can get away with using macroquest, you can get away with training people, stealing mobs... Not here. Obey the rules and there's no issue. Treat our staff like human beings, and there is no issue.

Kunark will be out in less than 3 years.

17 Months is hardly 3 years.


They won't have ex-devs that Didn't really care for classic eq... like Secrets working on a classic server.

Actually I'd agree with this one.. because every single one of their devs won't really care for classic eq, because that's not what they are providing.

It won't be as classic as this server, but it won't have the pathing issues of this server either.

I'd hardly call pathing different from what you remember it as "issues". We have a different system, there are invetibly issues with any system in use, including the one on live. There are pathing issues in every live expansion in existance.


SoE will probably send the shut down P1999 papers to Rogean shortly after release of fippy for showing people how to illegally download the client in the startup guide. Just an educated guess.

Uh, what? Where does it explain in the startup guide how to illegally download the client? Please quote it to me.. this is nothing but a blatant lie.

Our server operates with approval from Sony. They have already been in contact with us regarding several issues. Why do you think there was a crackdown on RMT, especially those related to a website which won't be named. I'll leave it at that.

You seem to be comparing this server an aweful lot to that of Sony's. They are not the same server, nor do they aim to be. You are also comparing a multi million dollar company with a full time development staff of educated and experienced people, to a small group of people with little to no education and experience running professional mmo games, who make no money off of this, who work only in their free time as a hobby. I think with all things considered, what we provide is damn good for what we've put into it.

[Harrison]

Slathar, thanks for the heads up on the early release date! Server sounds like it will be a good time.

PS: Harrison, does this mean that you aren't going to be joining my progression server guild anymore?



Isidro
Guild Leader of <Imaginary Combat Medics>

Lol I love the disturbing level of obsession you freaks go to here, it's hilarious.

[girth]

Lol I love the disturbing level of obsession you freaks go to here, it's hilarious.

Don't be bitter just cause he got a great shot in on ya, after all you did look like a huge asshole for making that shit up. Plus the way you talk out of your ass such as calling people who'd play on the new server utter retards just because you won't, you're just asking for it most of the time.

[Lazortag]

edit: nevermind

[nalkin]

To be fair, the startup guide used to link to a torrent which contained the titanium client. Depending on the jurisdiction that could be illegal. However, it was removed, so I think that at least demonstrates something.

Just posting here in case Sony uses this page in their lawsuit, I want to see my name.

Kimmie and Nalkin were here.

[Otto]

I was gonna post a big response but then I realized there was no reason.

Then Rogean responded better than I could anyway.


Huey is clearly bitter about not having things his way. Good riddance to bad rubbish?

[Loke]

The funny thing is, even though everyone knows it will suck..they will still flock to it.

This is kind of a ridiculous statement Hobby.

P99 is great, and you guys who have put so much work into have done an amazing job. However, as Rogean pointed out, P99's goal is to recreate a classic experience, where as Sony and their staff really don't care about an authentic classic experience. The goals of the two projects are completely different.

I have had a blast on P99 and hope to continue doing so in the future, but I also think that the Fippy server offers the prospect of some really fun gaming, so I will "flock" to it; however, I think the implication of your post is a bit silly (implication being that we're some how ignorant or foolish as we are aware the server will suck, yet still choose to play there).

I honestly think comparing P99 to Fippy is like comparing apples to oranges - they're both fruit (recreations of Everquest), but while one is a delicious citrus snack (P99), the other a day keeps doctors away (Fippy).

[fastboy21]

This is kind of a ridiculous statement Hobby.

P99 is great, and you guys who have put so much work into have done an amazing job. However, as Rogean pointed out, P99's goal is to recreate a classic experience, where as Sony and their staff really don't care about an authentic classic experience. The goals of the two projects are completely different.

I have had a blast on P99 and hope to continue doing so in the future, but I also think that the Fippy server offers the prospect of some really fun gaming, so I will "flock" to it; however, I think the implication of your post is a bit silly (implication being that we're some how ignorant or foolish as we are aware the server will suck, yet still choose to play there).

I honestly think comparing P99 to Fippy is like comparing apples to oranges - they're both fruit (recreations of Everquest), but while one is a delicious citrus snack (P99), the other a day keeps doctors away (Fippy).


Seems to me that there is just some insecurity on the part of hard-core 99'ers about anyone playing on fippy. the more insecure have already starting saying things like you would have to be an idiot to play there or you are a traitor if you play there, etc.

as noted, the purpose of the projects is totally different. one does not directly compete with the other, except in the sense that if someone logs in on one they aren't logging in on the other at the same time most likely.

the p99 devs have said numerous times in the last year that the players here don't matter to their project, and that they would be doing what they are doing if the population on p99 were only 50 players...so all the hate from the insecure about sony stealing your population is not really a threat, even it were to happen (which it prob won't because, again, the projects are totally different).

I will be playing on both servers. I don't share the popular hatred of the so-called "$OE" and have no problem plunking down $30/month for a couple accounts. If it is "stupid" to spend a dollar a day to have fun and play EQ on live then I guess I'm an idiot.

So much hate.

[Sixpence]

Anyone who has not played on a true classic server (ie: this one, or live circa 1999-2001) is not going to really mind the way Sony does this progression server.

It's mainly people like us who know what can truly be done to relive the classic experience who will be massively jaded by the way it's run.

Just my opinion.


Totally agree there Guinea Pig.

Those of us who loved the sadistic approach back in the day will be tsk tsk'ing at stuff they've invariably missed.

No it's not Classic, but it's about as close as they're likely/willing to get.
I for one will enjoy it for the year or however long it can be sustained.

[fugazi]

True classic EQ:
-Noobs flocking together around an individual who invested his starting skillpoints in tailoring. Noobs rejoice when patchwork emerges from the tailoring kit!
-Killstealing of decaying skeletons wearing staffs. It could be the much coveted cracked staff!
-Places where easy low level magic weapons can be acquired will be camped to dead. Hi Minotaurs!
-Noob casters grouping up because they can't afford their spells yet and thus need backup.
-Lots of people grouping up with people they don't know, instead of sticking to their predetermined /friends list.

How much of this will we see on this Fippy server? I'm afraid we'll see none of it. The grouping might happen, but since everyone will already know the game ..

And hail Rogean for laying the smack down on that blasphemous individual.

[Evorix]

PS: Harrison, does this mean that you aren't going to be joining my progression server guild anymore?



Isidro
Guild Leader of <Imaginary Combat Medics>

o man... that's too funny

[hueylewis187]

I was gonna post a big response but then I realized there was no reason.

Then Rogean responded better than I could anyway.


Huey is clearly bitter about not having things his way. Good riddance to bad rubbish?


Bad rubbish I haven't played on P1999 in 6 months. You got rid of me " the rubbish" a long time ago. You are the one that laughed as your guild trained innocent people ...

You are bitter that you'll have less of an audience to show off your elite items too. example the dagger you have.

Want me to beat you and your guild to lvl 50 again : ) hahaha And rez you while we leveled.... skill , I have more than you.

Like I said this server has many positives. Bringing back classic eq is awesome like P1999 did. It's choices and lack of correcting pathing etc. etc. is what hurts it. Besides all the Corrupt people and poop socking. The my guild is all that matters everyone else is shit attitudes.

W/e Otto You mad brah : ) people are gonna flock to the progression server for a year or 2 , but don't worry they will return to P1999 shortly after Fippy gets to POP.

Gotta go to work , unlike most the people here. Finawin is the biggest liar lol , he's gonna play on fippy , but he bad mouths it.

Both servers are good and bad in their own ways.


Tera Online ! is going to be the best Mmorpg for a long time. True action mmo!
Rift is ok, I like it. I can run it on a 5 year old pc without lag. I was impressed by that.

Still EQ classic is the best game and holds a place in my heart.

[Otto]

Drivel

Hey, remember when we were friends on facebook and you attacked my friends and I because you didn't like someone in my guild? Yeah that was awesome.

Douche.

[Japan]

Hey, remember when we were friends on facebook and you attacked my friends and I because you didn't like someone in my guild? Yeah that was awesome.

Douche.

ur feelings hurt, bro?

[Otto]

Nah I just didn't know who huey was until that post.

Dude is psycho

[redghosthunter]

Go play the server, spread the word about P99, come back for Kunark.

Can we do crazy things like.... Guild <P1999therealdeal> ?

[Erasong]

i would totally put an alt in that guild.

[strosz]

SOE seems to have activated many old accounts with free playtime until 21st February or something. I just tried and it works. Very few seems to be aware of it since no mails have been sent out.

No need to re-sub for most if you want to try out Fippy Darkpaw at the server launch.

[Thetruth]

The truth is,


Project 1999 is the greatest effort ever created to replicate classic Everquest. The truth also is, Everquest Live will have far more players and far more nice ones. The truth of the matter is project 1999's community amongst guilds is disgusting. The truth for one will be playing Everquest Live in hopes of more happier avenue. I have forseen a quite of number of players from project 1999 soon to be leaving. Part of the reason being the crap jerks in certain guilds on this server. The forums are no different!

The Truth Has Spoken!

[Atern]

If they had a fixed 1 year per expansion ... maybe. If I needed to blaze through an expansion every 60-90 days to keep up, no thanks.

90 days, 60 days, it will become the same as the other progression servers.

Too many expansions, too fast is what killed EQ.

The voting is a great idea. But only if it drags out when expansions are released.

H

1 year for each expansion? Maybe if they only went up to velious, but not with the intent of eventually enabling all expansions. Don't they do an expansion every 6 months anyway? They would never catch up.

[Atern]

Oh, and there is no reason you can't play on both servers (progression and P1999). The main reason I lost interest in P1999 and don't play here as much anymore is because the raiding scene is too messed up. All I ever do here now is play an alt for an hour or 2 or run around with my cleric and rez people. By playing on both servers, I can still play the alts on P1999 and at the same time raid on progression. It's the best of both worlds.

[mitic]

The main reason I lost interest in P1999 and don't play here as much anymore is because the raiding scene is too messed up.

<>

..playing on both servers, I can still play the alts on P1999 and at the same time raid on progression. It's the best of both worlds.

wait, so you think there will be only casual raiders on progression without batphones and poopsockin?

it will be worse than P99 since RMT is tolerated on live -> asian armada incoming on feb 14th.

[Atern]

<>



wait, so you think there will be only casual raiders on progression without batphones and poopsockin?

it will be worse than P99 since RMT is tolerated on live -> asian armada incoming on feb 14th.

I dunno, maybe it will be worse, maybe not. The main reason it's so bad here is because everyone has had time to level to 50 and raid before new content came out. So now you have a dozen guilds competing for a handful of raid targets, whereas on the progression server I hope the speed of the expansions weather it a little. I'm sure a couple guilds will rush to vox and naggy and have some competition, but once kunark and then velious is released, the competition will start to dwindle because some guilds will out pace the others. The problem with the raid scene here is guilds don't have the ability to out pace each other anymore.

[mitic]

The problem with the raid scene here is guilds don't have the ability to out pace each other anymore.

march 25th! <

;)

[muddy27]

"Most".

I'm not aware of any dupe bugs on P99 that exist at the moment, so therefor.. "All" dupe bugs are fixed on P99 though.



Apparently you never played combine, but good luck with that assumption.



Never happened.



Neither will they here. The difference is we are more strict about the rules we put in place, and people that disagree with those rules and think they can get away with it are met with a rude awakening. On live, you can get away with using macroquest, you can get away with training people, stealing mobs... Not here. Obey the rules and there's no issue. Treat our staff like human beings, and there is no issue.



17 Months is hardly 3 years.



Actually I'd agree with this one.. because every single one of their devs won't really care for classic eq, because that's not what they are providing.



I'd hardly call pathing different from what you remember it as "issues". We have a different system, there are invetibly issues with any system in use, including the one on live. There are pathing issues in every live expansion in existance.



Uh, what? Where does it explain in the startup guide how to illegally download the client? Please quote it to me.. this is nothing but a blatant lie.

Our server operates with approval from Sony. They have already been in contact with us regarding several issues. Why do you think there was a crackdown on RMT, especially those related to a website which won't be named. I'll leave it at that.

You seem to be comparing this server an aweful lot to that of Sony's. They are not the same server, nor do they aim to be. You are also comparing a multi million dollar company with a full time development staff of educated and experienced people, to a small group of people with little to no education and experience running professional mmo games, who make no money off of this, who work only in their free time as a hobby. I think with all things considered, what we provide is damn good for what we've put into it.

A few weeks ago I posted on official eq forums about the classic experience etc and mentioned p1999 well didnt say p1999 but a certain un-named server. And I had replys back like "oh these kids who are pirates now days think they can do this and that" "running an illegal server" "its still illegal" blah blah blah. Theres clash among people no matter were you go or what game you play I guess. I just people would get there crap straight and quit claiming me to be a pirate or doing something illegal. Although pirates are pretty cool IRL ARRGGGGG

[Goldknyght]

If they had a fixed 1 year per expansion ... maybe. If I needed to blaze through an expansion every 60-90 days to keep up, no thanks.

90 days, 60 days, it will become the same as the other progression servers.

Too many expansions, too fast is what killed EQ.

The voting is a great idea. But only if it drags out when expansions are released.

H

I agree to many expansions is what killed EQ just to satisfy the no life raiders. But now honestly we know how to complete each expansion. I am going to play on the server but i do feel it will fail because now the no life raiders will just be camping the good raid zones till the next expac is released. so the casual gamers are always going to be 1 xpac behind or more and hopefully the casual gamers are more then the raiders so they can keep the progression from moving forward. And they need to put in place that ur toon needs to be 30+ on the server to vote or it will just be people wanting the server to fail voting to unlock each xpac.

[Slathar]

they just did a live podcast about what will be included in the progression server. they said that items such as manastone/guise would be included for a limited amount of time.

they mentioned that the new freeport/commonlands would be in but for zones they didnt have to change the geometry, that they would bring back the classic zone (such as CT with its original drops as per the timeline)

so this also means that pre-nerf CoS, moss covered twig etc will be in for a limited time in kunark.

im really looking forward to it.

ps harrison is a dumb redneck

[Bizarostormy]

After watching the livecast I think I will pass on this fail server. Not classic, not even close. They are not even going to have old Freeport ... super fail. Ill just stick with P99.

[Slathar]

After watching the livecast I think I will pass on this fail server. Not classic, not even close. They are not even going to have old Freeport ... super fail. Ill just stick with P99.

how is a 'fail' server? it will have easily 3-4 times the population of p1999. id call that successful.

[Harrison]

they just did a live podcast about what will be included in the progression server. they said that items such as manastone/guise would be included for a limited amount of time.

they mentioned that the new freeport/commonlands would be in but for zones they didnt have to change the geometry, that they would bring back the classic zone (such as CT with its original drops as per the timeline)

so this also means that pre-nerf CoS, moss covered twig etc will be in for a limited time in kunark.

im really looking forward to it.

ps harrison is a dumb redneck

I take it as a badge of success when lowlife gutterscum dislike me. Thank you for proving a point.

[vincin]

Fipppy Darkpaw is coming out soon...will I play it? YES. Of course the classicness wont be as classic as P99, but there is a trade off. P99, although the best classic server ive played, does have frequent bugs and crashes on zones (still a GREAT server). Sony's server will not only be more 'fixed', but it is reliable. I will still play P99 because it just rocks, but being one of the first players to start on a new server is one of the greatest experiences. I hope to see some of you guys on.

Only things that I can think of that might suck about the Fippy is the commonlands and freeport zones. The new ones just suck, but who knows, it might be the new 'old 'experience....

[Erasong]

i will be playing precisely because it is NOT a classic server. I will eventually return here and hopefully raid with old friends again also. I thought you are allowed to like more than 1 thing at a time.
Nothing can beat p99 for classic, but that =\= progression.

[vincin]

ANYONE know what time tuesday the server will be open!? i wont to be the first character on the game, lol.

[Atern]

ANYONE know what time tuesday the server will be open!? i wont to be the first character on the game, lol.

Not sure, but I can tell you that the server is already in the server list with a status of LOCKED.

[vincin]

Not sure, but I can tell you that the server is already in the server list with a status of LOCKED.

Yea I saw that too. I cant wait.

[fugazi]

After watching the livecast I think I will pass on this fail server. Not classic, not even close. They are not even going to have old Freeport ... super fail. Ill just stick with P99.

I am bizarrostormy.

[L2Phantom]

Totally stoked for Tuesday !

[redghosthunter]

AFTER READING THIS :

Quote:
1) Monk dmg will remain the same as it is currently.
2) Coin is wieghtless
3) Soulbinders in game
4) Corpse recover is non exsistant.
5) Sk harmtouch is that of current live
6) Mage and necro pets currently how they are on live ( Over powered)
7) Focus effects on items will be in game , unless the item is chosen not to be in game.
8) Revamped zones stay in game
9) Hell levels are not back
10) Maps are in game
11) Stat point values will remain as they are in live
12) Some market place items are in game
13) All Spells will remain how they are on live. O You gain a new one every level sigh
14) Kerra isle is merged with tox.
15) Boats are no in game translocators are.
16) Skill caps will be 260 like on live.

I dont know ill play Flippy. What makes Classic , Classic.... is well.... the Classic.

[L2Phantom]

If you want classic, play p99.

If you want progression, play Fippy.

Quit trying to turn Fippy into something its not. Easy as that.

[Ronas]

imo once you play on flippy it be abit hard to come back p99, why? Because they made things a little easier in terms of CR/Maps. Once you have a taste of that , would feel like a new feature even though its old and will find it frustrating without that easy mode anymore on p99. So think about it carefully before you make the switch.

[guineapig]

imo once you play on flippy it be abit hard to come back p99, why? Because they made things a little easier in terms of CR/Maps. Once you have a taste of that , would feel like a new feature even though its old and will find it frustrating without that easy mode anymore on p99. So think about it carefully before you make the switch.

I really don't think maps are an issue to anyone. Most people here know the outside zones by heart and many of the dungeons as well. The few camps I'm not familiar with I can just alt-tab to look up. Definitely not a deal breaker. Besides, it's not like we had maps available on live.

No corpse runs? All I can say is that there will be a ton of level 50's at the end of the first two weeks that probably have no place being level 50 which will make the end game raid scene... interesting to say the least.

[fugazi]

Who cares when 10 SK's can take out any dragon.

[Zexa]

imo once you play on flippy it be abit hard to come back p99, why? Because they made things a little easier in terms of CR/Maps. Once you have a taste of that , would feel like a new feature even though its old and will find it frustrating without that easy mode anymore on p99. So think about it carefully before you make the switch.

So in the two weeks it's been free, if anyone logged onto the other Live server they would have zero chance of coming back i suppose? Not because the game is nothing like it used to be, but merely the fact that it's 100x easier than p99?

[redghosthunter]

Flippy Day is here and i have NO MOTIVE.... to go play... $OE. The hurt goes too deep $OE, too deep ! Don't ever go back... go forward... go forward. Things are right... here.

[vincin]

@redghosthunter im sorry bro, hope things work out for ya. I just like the game of everquest itself...whether classic or progression. I cant wait to play this new server. Its like school in summertime.

[girth]

Nothing can beat p99 for classic, but that =\= progression.

QFT

I missed the first progression server, I won't miss this one. They offer Luclin/PoP, my favorite raiding era besides Velious.

[guineapig]

This is going to be your last chance (for a long time) to get server firsts on an actual legitimate live EQ server. Anyone that is truly hardcore should not pass up a chance like this.

Door is that way :p

[girth]

Pretty sad how some of you are acting about this new server. I already see people spamming like bots for p99 and shit talking the new server in fippy chats and it's not helping your cause, you make this community look like a bunch of immature pricks and its unfortunate. I see people talking shit about p99 because of how some of yall are acting.

Rogean said to recruit people not turn people off towards this community.

[Otto]

Pretty sad how some of you are acting about this new server. I already see people spamming like bots for p99 and shit talking the new server in fippy chats and it's not helping your cause, you make this community look like a bunch of immature pricks and its unfortunate. I see people talking shit about p99 because of how some of yall are acting.

Rogean said to recruit people not turn people off towards this community.

I believe that is the intent of some of those individuals... try and make this server look worse.

Unfortunately it will succeed for some, but not everyone will fall for it. Similar to the reputation of the top few guilds on the server... some people will buy into it, some will see past it.

[Harrison]

I believe that is the intent of some of those individuals... try and make this server look worse.

Unfortunately it will succeed for some, but not everyone will fall for it. Similar to the reputation of the top few guilds on the server... some people will buy into it, some will see past it.

Couldn't have said it better.

There are some bitter pussy-fucks on this server who've been banned for being pieces of shit going there and purposely tarnishing the entire server's reputation out of spite.

It's pathetic.

[Spewys]

2nd that Harrison!

[redghosthunter]

This is going to be your last chance (for a long time) to get server firsts on an actual legitimate live EQ server. Anyone that is truly hardcore should not pass up a chance like this.

Door is that way :p

WHY is Chic, always right? Now playing a NEC on Flippy. Hit me. Souless Reaperofmen . Forgot what a pain in the ass being a KOS class is.

No one will list a P99 guild on Flippy? Whats up with that ?

[Rogean]

This is going to be your last chance (for a long time) to get server firsts on an actual legitimate live EQ server. Anyone that is truly hardcore should not pass up a chance like this.

Door is that way :p

Been there, done that.. Combine server.