Rogue life

[Lhancelot]

I am just curious what it is that draws people to play a rogue.

What do you rogues do to keep it fun? What is it that you enjoy most about your rogue? What race is your rogue, do you wish you had picked a different race, if so why?

[RDawg816]

Can afk just about anywhere. Can go just about anywhere. Easy epic. Great damage. Little to no responsibility in most group/raid scenarios (aside from CRs)...

I've had 2 barbarian rogues, a dwarf rogue, a halfling rogue of high to max level. They are great to play... they're not really a solo class but can get groups easier than most classes. What's not to like?

[Lhancelot]

Can afk just about anywhere. Can go just about anywhere. Easy epic. Great damage. Little to no responsibility in most group/raid scenarios (aside from CRs)...

I've had 2 barbarian rogues, a dwarf rogue, a halfling rogue of high to max level. They are great to play... they're not really a solo class but can get groups easier than most classes. What's not to like?

Which race did you find most amusing and why? Did you ever think about playing any other races?

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Horrible first character imo. After you can throw nice weapons, haste item and get your str/dex up high, they're pretty fun.

Rogue was my first character and main until I quit live. I didn't make that mistake here.

[syztem]

You play a rogue cuz u either want unlimited damage in PVP, or you like backstabbing things in PVE its simple as that really. If you want to sit back and nuke stuff, then go afk while you med up you roll a wizard/caster

[RDawg816]

Which race did you find most amusing and why? Did you ever think about playing any other races?

Amusing? Well dwarven rogues are fun due to barrel rolls. Barbarians can slam (on same cooldown as backstab, but it can be used to interrupt casters.)

If I were to roll a rogue today, I'd probably go human or dwarf. Human because there aren't a lot of humans (and there's no human mask) and their armor graphics are usually pretty cool (if you like fashion quest?).... Dwarf because barrel rolls are fun (and I'll never have a dwarven mask), RPing a dwarven rogue is more interesting than most other races, and they have a nice wisdom (comes in handy when tradeskilling.)

[Troxx]

If I ever make a rogue - it will be a dwarf.

[TripleLegit]

I enjoyed Barbarian, because really high starting strength and stamina, and fashion quest doesn't matter because dark elf mask.

[Lhancelot]

You play a rogue cuz u either want unlimited damage in PVP, or you like backstabbing things in PVE its simple as that really. If you want to sit back and nuke stuff, then go afk while you med up you roll a wizard/caster

Yeah that's kind of my sentiment too haha.

I just was wondering if there were particular zones or places rogues liked to sneak around, or things they did that a casual player wouldn't really know about.

The rogue game mechanics are so simple I figure there has to be more to it, that keep some people glued to their rogues. Like some secret rogues-only activities that go on I am not aware of. :p

[Twochain]

Welp,

Rogue is the best dps in the game atm, so groups and guilds always need them. They are the second easiest first melee class to start out with next to iksar monk.. Epic is easy as hell.

My twink rogue is a blast to play. Got a little bit slow levels 32-37 when it started to get difficult to solo... but now that I have level 46 and epic, I can solo easily, and in group my DPS is insane. A lot of fun.

[jolanar]

Can afk just about anywhere. Can go just about anywhere. Easy epic. Great damage. Little to no responsibility in most group/raid scenarios (aside from CRs)...


That about sums it up. Also it's not really a heavily gear dependent class either since they aren't going to be tanking damage often. Epic is easy to get and has haste on it so that's two birds with one stone.

[Samoht]

fashion quest doesn't matter because dark elf mask.

You can still only equip a dress if your race is Human, Dark Elf, or Gnome. The rest of the Rogue races cannot equip them.

[Cecily]

Yeah that's kind of my sentiment too haha.

I just was wondering if there were particular zones or places rogues liked to sneak around, or things they did that a casual player wouldn't really know about.

The rogue game mechanics are so simple I figure there has to be more to it, that keep some people glued to their rogues. Like some secret rogues-only activities that go on I am not aware of. :p

I mean, it's a kinetic type of game play on a rogue that keeps you very very active. If you have a great tank and the mob's back never moves, that's one thing. But it's pretty fun sneaking in backstabs in the middle of chaotic situations.

NToV corpse recoveries / dragon pulling (is this still a thing?) are really fun too. LoS ducking the see invis and certain death awaiting you if you get caught has an appeal. And if nothing else, I can invis forever as long as no one AEs me. I get lost ALOT...

[Lhancelot]

I mean, it's a kinetic type of game play on a rogue that keeps you very very active. If you have a great tank and the mob's back never moves, that's one thing. But it's pretty fun sneaking in backstabs in the middle of chaotic situations.

NToV corpse recoveries / dragon pulling (is this still a thing?) are really fun too. LoS ducking the see invis and certain death awaiting you if you get caught has an appeal. And if nothing else, I can invis forever as long as no one AEs me. I get lost ALOT...

I seen what you wrote about races too, I am bored with my casters and druids and pally atm just want a pure melee or close to pure melee dps now to play for a bit while I take a break from my other toons.

I have considered races over and over, looked at stats, which makes it hard to not pick dwarf or barb due to such nice stats.

That being said I am going to see if I can get into a gnome only because they seem uncommon and I never played one, ever. Their tiny stature seems funny too.

I wanted to see what kind of gameplay rogues encounter so I have something to look forward to myself, being I am pretty ignorant when it comes to this class.

Thanks everyone for your perspectives, feel free to add any other thoughts.

[Gumbo]

My next character will be a Rogue and probably be human since my main and only character on Live was a human Rogue. Nice thing about Rogue is pierce is mainly the only main weapon skill you will want to use.

The only downfall for Rogue on P99 is there is some skills that are looked over or skipped such as Hand to Hand, Pick Pocket, Safe Fall, Apply Poison, Make Poison and Instill Doubt.

You can try and train Pick Pocket if you solo but try doing it in a group and everyone will be bitchin up a storm.

[Cecily]

If you raise it early on, like putting it in your evade macro, and let your group know you're doing it.. Ask if it's cool, maybe. Most people don't have a problem with it. When real gems are on the loot table, people usually do. Get 200 by 40 for epic and leave it alone after.

Not like you can steal from anything on this server. Skill got over nerfed incorrectly to humanoid only and with a great deal of pleading, giants too.

[Vexenu]

1) Rogue DPS is pretty insane. If you've only ever played casters and hybrids before it will blow your mind to watch the combat spam you generate.

2) Rogue race is not that important. To illustrate: I've got a non-epic Gnome Rogue twink with inexpensive EC tunnel gear and can cap STR with buffs. Barb or Dwarf with points in STA to min/max (boring). Human, Wood Elf or Gnome for style. Dark Elf to flummox people and truly piss off min/maxers you encounter.

3) Rogues are a nice laid back grouping class. You feel like you're always contributing highly to the group (and you are) despite not having to do much compared to most other classes.

4) Rogues are very easy to twink (STR gear is cheap and abundant) and have the easiest Epic.

5) You can never have enough Rogues in a group or raid. They stack in this regard better than any other class.

6) Do not roll a Rogue with the intention of fear kite duoing with a Necro or Druid. Just trust me. Rog/Shm, Rog/Pal and even Rog/Clr are all good duos, however.

[Pezy]

Rog/Brd an amazing outdoor duo. Perma snared and feared mobs while being perma hasted? Don't mind if I do.

If I make a second Rogue (Naggy/Vox alt probably), it'll be a Gnome. Wall hacks and fashion quest robes are great, and stats are easy. The only time I ever regret being short is when I'm naked, out of endurance, and hungry, while trying to get out of ToV at LTK.

[Lhancelot]

I made a rogue, gnome at that! I probably should have done all stamina at the start, but man my strength was so low... I ended up mixing str and sta so I started with 80 and 80.

So far the gnome is fun, made a female, love how silly she looks when running, and that huge helm with tiny skinny arms and legs. :p

I am going to try to work the rogue epic without buying it, not sure how hard it is etc.

Also already used wall vision when investigating Freeport tunnels, I could view what NPCs were on the other side of the wall when in the building areas underneath.

My favorite thing about being so small is how much easier it is to target mobs and move around them etc.

Anyway, hoping this character can be my melee alt when I get tired of playing my casters!

[Endonde]

I made a rogue, gnome at that! I probably should have done all stamina at the start, but man my strength was so low... I ended up mixing str and sta so I started with 80 and 80.

So far the gnome is fun, made a female, love how silly she looks when running, and that huge helm with tiny skinny arms and legs. :p

I am going to try to work the rogue epic without buying it, not sure how hard it is etc.

Also already used wall vision when investigating Freeport tunnels, I could view what NPCs were on the other side of the wall when in the building areas underneath.

My favorite thing about being so small is how much easier it is to target mobs and move around them etc.

Anyway, hoping this character can be my melee alt when I get tired of playing my casters!

1. Half str, half sta is fine, starting stats barely matter at all in the long run as a rogue.

2. Epic is harder than it used to be but it's still by far one of the easiest epics.

3. Gnomes are ugly you chose wrong.

[Lhancelot]

1. Half str, half sta is fine, starting stats barely matter at all in the long run as a rogue.

2. Epic is harder than it used to be but it's still by far one of the easiest epics.

3. Gnomes are ugly you chose wrong.

I think the fact I never see or play gnome females has made it entertaining for me. Plus she is so tiny, and targeting mobs is so easy when I need to navigate around etc. it's really a comical appearance no doubt which is funny because of how much damage she pours out! Still going strong like my ugly little female gnome rogue!

[HouseTargaryen]

I am just curious what it is that draws people to play a rogue.

What do you rogues do to keep it fun? What is it that you enjoy most about your rogue? What race is your rogue, do you wish you had picked a different race, if so why?

I use gamparse to see my dps. racing for top dps is a game itself.
As rogue your quest is to seek the best weapons and anything that will increase your dps.
On top of that rogues are needed in groups and raids.
They find groups easily ( like in old seb to make plat ) and are appreciated in raids. Their damage in raids stack very well.

My rogue is a Dwarf because they can barrel roll and have great starting stats.
Dwarfs in a full set of haze panther look like little ninjas barrel rolling.

[Tuurin]

For me the one of the odd things about a pure melee character is having not a whole lot to look forward to. After leveling a necro and druid up, you get used to having shorter-term goals/spell circles that you're looking forward to that seem to make leveling more interesting. Even as a warrior or monk you're often pulling so when you level up you're going to different places, learning zones/pathing/etc. so there's less risk of monotony. For rogues though if you swim with the rest of the fishes you'll be hanging around in a camp for multiple levels looking at the identical scenery, then relocate and have a slightly different view but still standing around in a camp waiting for the puller to bring stuff to kill. And when they do you're doing pretty much the same thing- positioning then autoattack/mashing BS/evade macro. Click your DE mask every half hour for fashion points. /yawn

My advice for anyone considering the rogue path is to try to mix up camps as much as possible so that you can avoid the monotony that is inherent in the class. It might be more efficient to sit in HHK for 20 levels or whatever, but damn is it boring.

[Lhancelot]

For me the one of the odd things about a pure melee character is having not a whole lot to look forward to. After leveling a necro and druid up, you get used to having shorter-term goals/spell circles that you're looking forward to that seem to make leveling more interesting. Even as a warrior or monk you're often pulling so when you level up you're going to different places, learning zones/pathing/etc. so there's less risk of monotony. For rogues though if you swim with the rest of the fishes you'll be hanging around in a camp for multiple levels looking at the identical scenery, then relocate and have a slightly different view but still standing around in a camp waiting for the puller to bring stuff to kill. And when they do you're doing pretty much the same thing- positioning then autoattack/mashing BS/evade macro. Click your DE mask every half hour for fashion points. /yawn

My advice for anyone considering the rogue path is to try to mix up camps as much as possible so that you can avoid the monotony that is inherent in the class. It might be more efficient to sit in HHK for 20 levels or whatever, but damn is it boring.

That's what i always wondered too, and I felt that way on past rogues. But after playing shaman, chanter, druid, and always soloing or having group intensive classes I kind of find the rogue to be a nice break tbh.

With the rogue, I can group and actually chat and conversate more now. It's a very relaxed style of play compared to the three classes I have played the most over the past years on p99.

Also, I want to explore stuff on the rogue, go places I never went on other toons. I bet I can go places I never could go on other classes. Well, that's what I am hoping for anyway.

I also want to work the epic on my own and see what that is like. It seems like a fun quest line. I think I just needed a break from complexity and group intensive/solo classes.

[Cecily]

I think you're starting to see the appeal of the class. Getting new high backstabs will keep you entertained for a long, long time. And when that gets boring, you'll get doubles. And that gets boring, you'll get duelist. Your damage is insane compared to any other class and for, the most part, you're a glass cannon who will get broken if you play sloppy. That risk of death always kept things interesting for me. Exploration / corpse recovery. Relaxed play style with no carpal tunnels.. You can even break nukes, CHes, and gates once you understand push control and controlling other players.

Rogues are fun.

[Lowako]

I play a rogue because I like to fuck dragons up and rogues are the best at fucking up dragons. You can argue that charmed pets do more DPS (they do) but they aren't available in every situation and getting someone else to fight for you is some real weak shit.

Not to mention you get the benefit of playing the fashionquest mini-game while having little-no impact on your character's performance. You'll want to wear real gear for things that AE and when you lack buffs, but if you have level 60 shaman buffs you can hit capped STR with 120 STR pre-buff.

[Muggens]

You can argue that charmed pets do more DPS (they do) but they aren't available in every situation and getting someone else to fight for you is some real weak shit.


Nice to play a completely non-magic-using class, with Hide/Sneak the only "extraordinary" ability. Warrior the only class more legit than rogue.