Bard raid geared melee dps

[Troxx]

Curious about high end bard melee dps from anyone who has Velious raid weapons.

Buffed in an average group - what can you guys average parse?

Weapon caps going up to 250 and offense to 252 and same combat tables as other melee will obviously help a lot in the future.

[Fasttimes]

It's all relative atm cause epic is a bad primary due to speed and losing +11 bonus damage. Epic offhand patch will boost melee dmg even with no double attack (it'll still suck).

Edit for clarity you don't lose the +11 it's just slower so less of them.

Formula = (2 x dmg + 11) / delay which suites fast weapons more (bard doesn't get 2 x , they are (dmg + 11) / delay

[Troxx]

Yeah I was just looking for general estimates. It's been a long time since I parsed Troxx but with 21% worn haste breath of harmony and guardians mace at level 57 it wasn't pretty.

Just curious if a raid geared bard could sustain 40dps melee on non raid targets.

[Fasttimes]

Atm? Ehh prob but be hard with epic offhand I'm sure . But epic mainland sucks for dps. I do ~25 with pd sword and 34% haste which is good ratio (offhand is pure ratio not speed it's independent on swings )

[Troxx]

Damn - so still looking at the raw melee dps of a buffed shaman pet.

[debuilder]

Just curious if a raid geared bard could sustain 40dps melee on non raid targets.

my 56 ranger pulls more than that on tov dragons im sure a 60 bard with basic gear could do it.

[Cecily]

With no derpble atterk you're looking at 50% of a non-disc warrior at best. On the bright side, with a full group of melee you're adding a ton of damage. +1% dps per 10 atk per person. 4-5 rogues and that really stacks up.

[Troxx]

Oh I'm aware of the global power bards bring to the table - just curious about the raw melee component with legitimately good gear my bard doesn't have :) . The low weapon skill caps, low offense caps, and melee tables that will soon be fixed will be a swell bump - but we're still stuck with no double attack.

Double attack isn't 100% so surely it's got to be a bit over 50% of a warrior in similar gear once our weapon skill caps etc are raised.

[Fasttimes]

However outside of raiding dotb modded dots + offhand swings should parse pretty well.

Edit: after patch.

[Troxx]

Punching + fully loaded dots with offhand instruments can already stack up to >70 dps :p

I guess what I'm looking for is actual parses from one such well geared bard. I'm just curious.

[Fasttimes]

Sure GL but offhand swings alone I don't think baton is gonna add 15 dps over a pd sword maybe I'm wrong. Reversing what hand we hold it on will.

[Cecily]

Rustle has a koi dagger on one bard and a baton of lolames on another. I'll see if I can get some parses of them after changes to epic / offense.

[MiRo2]

Alot of stuff in the low 30s on giants in Kael, here was the best of em.

Using Katana of Pain, Priceless Velium Spear, no worn haste

Grondon Zekkin
---Zone: Kael Drakkel
---Start Time: 2/19/2017 12:56:09 PM
---Fight Length: 45s
---Total Attackers: 5
---Total HP: 2209
---My DPS: 36


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[Egilmn]

Just dual wield two sceptre of destructions with capped dex, easy setup with decent dps if your procs land.

[MiRo2]

Forgot my to link my gear, also I think I had VoG and Focus for this one.

Magelo_Red:Gidro (https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Red:Gidro)

[astuce999]

In HoT with all attack buffs except avatar I do 32dps.

With casual mobs it's easy to go over 40 on melee, but that's not the best dps.

I do Rondo, fire chant, cold chant, largo's, mana song, and assonance (once a minute).

I have dotb that I click in for chants.

That puts me at about 70 dps+.

Astuce

[Fasttimes]

40 on group mobs yes i thought we were talking raid environment it depends a lot on mob ac too.

[Javacup]

I doubt I had cotp or werewolf on any of these. Probably didn't have vog on most.

A thifling focuser: (23 DPS) DMG: 8916 -- (Hits: 223, Missed: 154, Accuracy: 59.2%, Avg Hit: 39, Max hit: 93)
A thifling focuser: (25 DPS) DMG: 14985 -- (Hits: 382, Missed: 307, Accuracy: 55.4%, Avg Hit: 39, Max hit: 93)
A thifling focuser: (20 DPS) DMG: 8615 -- (Hits: 244, Missed: 166, Accuracy: 59.5%, Avg Hit: 35, Max hit: 93)
A thifling focuser: (18 DPS) DMG: 7855 -- (Hits: 228, Missed: 174, Accuracy: 56.7%, Avg Hit: 34, Max hit: 93)
A thifling focuser: (26 DPS) DMG: 22162 -- (Hits: 593, Missed: 435, Accuracy: 57.7%, Avg Hit: 37, Max hit: 93)
Rumbleroot: (21 DPS) DMG: 3339 -- (Hits: 88, Missed: 79, Accuracy: 52.7%, Avg Hit: 37, Max hit: 90)
The Progenitor: (23 DPS) DMG: 8354 -- (Hits: 247, Missed: 161, Accuracy: 60.5%, Avg Hit: 33, Max hit: 92)
Lord Yelinak: (18 DPS) DMG: 7990 -- (Hits: 287, Missed: 226, Accuracy: 55.9%, Avg Hit: 27, Max hit: 77)
Dagarn the Destroyer: (25 DPS) DMG: 3131 -- (Hits: 84, Missed: 60, Accuracy: 58.3%, Avg Hit: 37, Max hit: 88)
Master of the Guard: (22 DPS) DMG: 5950 -- (Hits: 193, Missed: 121, Accuracy: 61.5%, Avg Hit: 30, Max hit: 93)
The Statue of Rallos Zek: (18 DPS) DMG: 3945 -- (Hits: 170, Missed: 84, Accuracy: 66.9%, Avg Hit: 23, Max hit: 65)
The Statue of Rallos Zek: (17 DPS) DMG: 6309 -- (Hits: 252, Missed: 169, Accuracy: 59.9%, Avg Hit: 25, Max hit: 77)
The Statue of Rallos Zek: (17 DPS) DMG: 4337 -- (Hits: 168, Missed: 101, Accuracy: 62.5%, Avg Hit: 25, Max hit: 77)
The Avatar of War: (17 DPS) DMG: 6767 -- (Hits: 265, Missed: 209, Accuracy: 55.9%, Avg Hit: 25, Max hit: 67)
The Avatar of War: (13 DPS) DMG: 6736 -- (Hits: 260, Missed: 169, Accuracy: 60.6%, Avg Hit: 25, Max hit: 72)
Lord Vyemm: (18 DPS) DMG: 8551 -- (Hits: 308, Missed: 215, Accuracy: 58.9%, Avg Hit: 27, Max hit: 77)
Lord Vyemm: (19 DPS) DMG: 10759 -- (Hits: 383, Missed: 250, Accuracy: 60.5%, Avg Hit: 28, Max hit: 80)
Lord Vyemm: (18 DPS) DMG: 5676 -- (Hits: 198, Missed: 130, Accuracy: 60.4%, Avg Hit: 28, Max hit: 78)
Random low level mobs outside Kael. 255 str, 1255 atk, 100% haste.
A frost giant sentinel: (38 DPS) DMG: 3099 -- (Hits: 67, Missed: 39, Accuracy: 63.2%, Avg Hit: 46, Max hit: 93
A frost giant sentinel: (43 DPS) DMG: 2997 -- (Hits: 60, Missed: 31, Accuracy: 65.9%, Avg Hit: 49, Max hit: 93