There ARE good Tippers

[Matthalas Winterheart]

I hate to rehash this, but it proves my point from a few weeks ago. Just now did a port from EC tunnel to GD. A dwarven cleric by the name of "TrustMe". An awakened member just tipped me 80+PP. Didnt say a damn thing to him prior to port other then telling him where to find me. Gave him the customary SOW, and a LEVI as he was going to GD.

I port, I do it quickly and I know the topography and or KOS threat of where I am porting to.

Oh, and I'm not guild tagged. FWIW.


The tips come in. Sweet and to the point.


TrustMe...Thanks for showing the warm heart of the general populous on this server.

[Matthalas Winterheart]

Twizzlers of Awakened
Termomix of Europa


Thank you guys for the generous Tip!

[skarlorn]

props to me for always tipping 50pp +

good going me

love u

[Cecily]

I think you paid me in emotes once. I was ok with it, but still.

[skarlorn]

we both know that it was one of the best port experiences of both our lives

[nectarprime]

/pras

[Vandil]

I take the boats. All a Shadowknight needs is Gather Shadows and Feign Death.

[Eumora]

What is the standard accepted tip from a lvl 30? That's my main's lvl, and in the past I've always tipped 50p because that's what I heard was expected, but it's too expensive for me, and has actually discouraged me from getting ports because I don't wanna be a cheap ass and make someone angry. I do have need for a lot of ports though. For example, I recently started lvling an Iksar Necromancer, and my main is a 30 ranger. I want to buy some cheap necro gear, but I have no way of safely delivering it without getting a port. I only have about 1.3k on my ranger, and that is the result of a few weeks worth of lvling on mammoths in Everfrost. I obviously can't afford to buy gear, AND throw around 50p every time I need a port.

[Caiu]

1pp per level used to be the accepted standard. Apparently carrying gems/enough plat to tip is too onerous for most however. Standard tips these days seems more like a flat 20-30p.

[Eumora]

1pp per level used to be the accepted standard. Apparently carrying gems/enough plat to tip is too onerous for most however. Standard tips these days seems more like a flat 20-30p.

1p per lvl is pretty steep for anyone below lvl 40(giant killing lvl). My necro is lvl 14. He most certainly can't afford 14p for a port. He barely has enough for spells, and that's only because someone was kind enough to give him 50p randomly, otherwise I'd be settling with buying 1 or 2 spells per interval.

[maskedmelon]

What is the standard accepted tip from a lvl 30? That's my main's lvl, and in the past I've always tipped 50p because that's what I heard was expected, but it's too expensive for me, and has actually discouraged me from getting ports because I don't wanna be a cheap ass and make someone angry. I do have need for a lot of ports though. For example, I recently started lvling an Iksar Necromancer, and my main is a 30 ranger. I want to buy some cheap necro gear, but I have no way of safely delivering it without getting a port. I only have about 1.3k on my ranger, and that is the result of a few weeks worth of lvling on mammoths in Everfrost. I obviously can't afford to buy gear, AND throw around 50p every time I need a port.

Just shout/of what you offering or send messages with what you can pay and ask if that ok. If you ask upfront only an extreme jackass will get mad. If they don't respond or respond unhappily, just explain it all you have and you meant no offense and will look elsewhere. Think I only ever had one person respond grumbly, but they still insisted on porting me after I apologized and said I'd look elsewhere ^^

[Troxx]

1p per lvl is pretty steep for anyone below lvl 40(giant killing lvl). My necro is lvl 14. He most certainly can't afford 14p for a port. He barely has enough for spells, and that's only because someone was kind enough to give him 50p randomly, otherwise I'd be settling with buying 1 or 2 spells per interval.

Eh, I'd disagree.

Ports are a luxury. There are plenty of items you can farm in low levels that higher level toons will buy off of you (crushbone belts, deathfist belts, bone chips, orc scalps, wisp stones, bear pelts). Most of these can be found very close to various newbie yards. Brand new on this server I think I bankrolled over 1500 pp (full set of small fine steel + 2 pretty good weapons, mm drums, gypsy lute and 2 5hp 55ac rings) before hitting level 18 on my bard from selling these things to other players. Some races/classes and starting areas are better for this than others - but most all newbie zones have things you can farm for plat.

Besides ... where does a level 14 need to be porting around to? 50p starter should have gotten you all the spells you NEED way past level 14. It's a pretty commonly known fact to anyone who has played EQ classically or newly on p99 with little/no resources that you should only buy the spells you intend to actually use on a routine basis.

Ports are a luxury and a convenience. Save a bit of porting cash for when you really need it - and port as infrequently as possible

Running 1-3 zones to get to a new hunting ground is classic.

[Eumora]

Just shout/of what you offering or send messages with what you can pay and ask if that ok. If you ask upfront only an extreme jackass will get mad. If they don't respond or respond unhappily, just explain it all you have and you meant no offense and will look elsewhere. Think I only ever had one person respond grumbly, but they still insisted on porting me after I apologized and said I'd look elsewhere ^^

Yeah, I guess I just don't like shorting the nice druids and wizards who dedicate so much of their time to providing a very much needed service. I wish I had a choice in the matter. Coin was never a problem for me back in the day. While I am enjoying the newbie experience again, the lack of means definitely isn't something I missed lol. But anyway, I guess I don't have much choice than to take your advice.

[Eumora]

Eh, I'd disagree.

Ports are a luxury. There are plenty of items you can farm in low levels that higher level toons will buy off of you (crushbone belts, deathfist belts, bone chips, orc scalps, wisp stones, bear pelts). Most of these can be found very close to various newbie yards. Brand new on this server I think I bankrolled over 1000 pp before hitting level 18 on my bard from selling these things to other players.

Besides ... where does a level 14 need to be porting around to?

Ports are a luxury and a convenience. Save a bit of porting cash for when you really need it - and port as infrequently as possible

Running 1-3 zones to get to a new hunting ground is classic.

You have two choices in this situation. You can either level up at a decent rate, or you can waste hours and hours farming mobs you likely get little or no exp from in order to make enough money to supply a druid or wizard who likely already has so much coin from porting players who actually have plenty enough to tip well that showing a charitable nature to a lowbie shouldn't be a problem. I therefore deem it rather unfair and greedy to demand such a price from a player who clearly lacks in ability to make such a sum without sacrificing extremely large amounts of time that could otherwise be used to level up.

[Expediency]

If you are new to the server, just tell the druid that you are new. The all time best way to get a free port is to run to the druid rings and stay there. If a new player is standing at the rings when I arrive, more times than not Ill port them for free then and there. I do not want new players to give me their only 12pp, I always turn that down.

If you are level 46+, or if you have a level 60 main, and you tip less than 30pp then you are part of the reason why many wiz/dru dont port.

And stop offering 10pp for potg its 1200 mana. Not even close to worth our time at level 60

[Troxx]

You have two choices in this situation. You can either level up at a decent rate, or you can waste hours and hours farming mobs you likely get little or not exp from in order to make enough money to supply a druid or wizard who likely already has so much coin from porting players who actually have plenty enough to tip well that showing a charitable nature to a lowbie shouldn't be a problem.

I made my starting cash while leveling.

I therefore seem it rather unfair and greedy to demand such a price from a player who clearly lacks in ability to make such a sum without sacrificing extremely large amounts of time that could otherwise be used to level up.

Devils advocate: is it not unfair and greedy to expect complete strangers to sacrifice their time porting you around?

Porting is a luxury and a convenience. The world doesn't owe you or anybody else anything. Ask around and find a charitable guy to donate their time to you - I'm sure you'll find one.

Otherwise, lace up your hiking boots and hoof it like the baby jesus of classic EQ intended you to.

[Expediency]

I made my starting cash while leveling.

Devils advocate: is it not unfair and greedy to expect complete strangers to sacrifice their time porting you around?

Porting is a luxury and a convenience. The world doesn't owe you or anybody else anything. Ask around and find a charitable guy to donate their time to you - I'm sure you'll find one.


The big problem is many new players dont just want a free port, they also want you to find them and/or wait around for them to find you. Nothing worse than sitting there 5 minutes while some guy who isnt paying is lost in the forest. I can port you in 20 seconds, its the waiting and hide-and-seek that is the bad part.

If you want a free port, the least you can do is run to the druid rings or wiz spires and wait there. Youll find druids much more charitable when you are standing there ready to go.

[RedXIII]

I love how everything on this server. Even a "Thank you" post becomes a RnF and QQ'ing endless thread. Keep it up boys. Doing lords work.

[maskedmelon]

Yeah, I guess I just don't like shorting the nice druids and wizards who dedicate so much of their time to providing a very much needed service. I wish I had a choice in the matter. Coin was never a problem for me back in the day. While I am enjoying the newbie experience again, the lack of means definitely isn't something I missed lol. But anyway, I guess I don't have much choice than to take your advice.

Well, by refusing to ask, you are denying them the opportunity to express charity, which believe it or not is vitally important to most people. Just ask and if they agree, express your gratitude ^^ 99% of the time they will. If you worried about the. Agreeing when they don't want to, don't. That not your worry to carry ^^

[Bubbles]

I love how everything on this server. Even a "Thank you" post becomes a RnF and QQ'ing endless thread. Keep it up boys. Doing lords work.

lol amen

[lonmoer]

I've had people tip me black sapphires and decent items before. Customers rock!

[deathusurper]

Porting is a luxury and a convenience.

I agree fully.

[applesauce25r624]

this thread is a scheme - masterminded by dial-a-pleb to shame people into tipping more money

i don't blame them. i would try to extort as much plat as possible so i could reroll into a useful class asap

[Sorn]

I tip in birthday cake and/or cookies and/or root beer.

(Disclaimer: I'm a druid)

[Loadsamoney]

Loadsamoney: Proud Pledgemaster of the 1c Tipper Club.

[Gumbo]

Now every porter is going to keep an eye out for TrustMe, Twizzlers and Termomix to give them a port and expect 80+ platinum for the port tip...

[Gumbo]

I tip in birthday cake and/or cookies and/or root beer.

(Disclaimer: I'm a druid)

Gives me the idea to tip a stack of muffins and a stack of milk for my next port... :D

[Erati]

MDK is the best

[Loadsamoney]

Further words of wisdom. The advantage of being a lousy tipper is that, when those same people port you in the future, there's no expectation of a good tip, since they remember you either gave a bad one the last time they ported you, or none at all. So when they port you and don't get a good tip, they have no reason to complain.

Not that they have a reason to complain to begin with, because porting is not a luxury or convenience, it is a mandatory public service and anyone who plays a porting class is expected to do it, no complaints, no conditions. If you're not willing to do your job, then reroll as a Ranger and let someone with more integrity than you fill the position in your stead.

I hope people understand this.

[Sorn]

Gives me the idea to tip a stack of muffins and a stack of milk for my next port... :D

They have to have been hand made by you!! Otherwise they'll taste like loveless pixel cardboard.

[Red_Psyphon]

Either you take the 25pp or I get one of the 182 druids online who does.

[entruil]

I tipped 150p to goto GD once, I didn't have a tooth, was convinced to goto Iceclad, never looked back...


True Story.

[Speedi]

I talked with Afeni today, and he told me his members was fine with cake slices for tips. So I am going to go farm me some brownie parts and make some cakes. This will be much cheaper than spending 50-60pp a port. Thanks for the tip Afeni

[Dreenk317]

I talked with Afeni today, and he told me his members was fine with cake slices for tips. So I am going to go farm me some brownie parts and make some cakes. This will be much cheaper than spending 50-60pp a port. Thanks for the tip Afeni

They should allow RMT for pastries..... id port all day long for 3 dozen cookies.....

[kotton05]

i tip so well

[fadetree]

These threads are like the essence of the theory of economics. It's all in here. You could write a PhD dissertation on this thread alone.

[Lhancelot]

The big problem is many new players dont just want a free port, they also want you to find them and/or wait around for them to find you. Nothing worse than sitting there 5 minutes while some guy who isnt paying is lost in the forest. I can port you in 20 seconds, its the waiting and hide-and-seek that is the bad part.

If you want a free port, the least you can do is run to the druid rings or wiz spires and wait there. Youll find druids much more charitable when you are standing there ready to go.

If I am porting I simply ask the guy if he is at the circle before I port to avoid the waiting game. If he is not there, I tell him let me know when he gets there.

[deezy]

Here's a tip, and a spear behind it!

[DudeStop]

Eh, I'd disagree.

Ports are a luxury. There are plenty of items you can farm in low levels that higher level toons will buy off of you (crushbone belts, deathfist belts, bone chips, orc scalps, wisp stones, bear pelts). Most of these can be found very close to various newbie yards. Brand new on this server I think I bankrolled over 1500 pp (full set of small fine steel + 2 pretty good weapons, mm drums, gypsy lute and 2 5hp 55ac rings) before hitting level 18 on my bard from selling these things to other players. Some races/classes and starting areas are better for this than others - but most all newbie zones have things you can farm for plat.

Besides ... where does a level 14 need to be porting around to? 50p starter should have gotten you all the spells you NEED way past level 14. It's a pretty commonly known fact to anyone who has played EQ classically or newly on p99 with little/no resources that you should only buy the spells you intend to actually use on a routine basis.

Ports are a luxury and a convenience. Save a bit of porting cash for when you really need it - and port as infrequently as possible

Running 1-3 zones to get to a new hunting ground is classic.

1pp per level is completely out of whack with the EQ economy. I can't believe that even became a thing. It's ridiculous.

Going out to eat is a luxury and a convienence. That doesn't make it reasonable for a restaurant to expect a 50% tip.

[Cecily]

60p is a 20% tip for my 300 mana. 13% if I have to zone to get you. 10% if I pick you up from Velious. Worse than 6% if you want a Velious pick up and succor through SG. Last one is well over 1000 mana. Simply not worth my time to port. Hill Giants tip better and I don't kill them because they are lousy tippers.

[Loadsamoney]

Pretty ridiculous that porting Druids actually put a monetary value on their mana when:

A: They're not fighting/healing at that moment and therefore have no need for that mana.
B: They can just sit on their ass for a moment and meditate it all back.

Expecting compensation for your time is one thing, but expecting compensation for your mana which will regenerate back after a minute or two and isn't being used on anything else in that situation? Trustfund babies at their best.

[Cecily]

That's putting a time limit until I can do things with my character. My druid is not a port bot.

[Lojik]

There's a reason I equip my wizard so he looks like a monk.

[Loadsamoney]

That's putting a time limit until I can do things with my character. My druid is not a port bot.

Then why are you playing it? Reroll a Shaman and let someone who's willing to do their job take over for you.

[Troxx]

Their job is to port others around?

Heh ...

[Lhancelot]

Then why are you playing it? Reroll a Shaman and let someone who's willing to do their job take over for you.

You sound like the kind of guy that doesn't appreciate the hard work a Druid puts in to port people.

Why are you so angry? What did Druids ever do to you?

Did you pay for Druidic services that left you feeling unfulfilled? Did you enter a port, only to exit it feeling as though the Druid gave you an illness you could never get rid of?

There has to be a reason behind your resentment towards the hard working porters of Norrath.

[necro316]

my favorite thing to do is spam ooc saying youll port 1k+ and then never tip the person

i zone faster than everyone so i just run along

[Nixtar]

my favorite thing to do is spam ooc saying youll port 1k+ and then never tip the person


That's sad.

[Loadsamoney]

You sound like the kind of guy that doesn't appreciate the hard work a Druid puts in to port people.

Why are you so angry? What did Druids ever do to you?

Did you pay for Druidic services that left you feeling unfulfilled? Did you enter a port, only to exit it feeling as though the Druid gave you an illness you could never get rid of?

There has to be a reason behind your resentment towards the hard working porters of Norrath.

I'm not angry, I just expect people to do what their class was designed to do. If you're a Druid or Wizard, you port people. If you're a Shaman, you follow people around buffing them. If you're a Cleric, you rez people. If you're a necro, you summon corpses. If you're an Enchanter, you make enchanted metal and breeze people.

That what these classes are designed for, nothing else.

[Dreenk317]

I'm not angry, I just expect people to do what their class was designed to do. If you're a Druid or Wizard, you port people. If you're a Shaman, you follow people around buffing them. If you're a Cleric, you rez people. If you're a necro, you summon corpses. If you're an Enchanter, you make enchanted metal and breeze people.

That what these classes are designed for, nothing else.
You don't bring enchanters on group excursions with you right? Best leave them parked for Jc purposes. I mean, who wants clarity or CC, chanters were designed to enchant metal and nothing else!!!! Necros are only useful to summon corpses. It's not like they have any sort of utility or ability to solo, so if you do anything other than summon corpses with your necro, your doing it wrong and wasting the whole servers time and pixels!!! Also, this guy is right, what are Druids good for other than porting? Buffs you say? Dps? Offheals? Not necessary!!! We have clerics, whose only job is to Rez you. So have no fear, just die, the cleric has saved all his mana for this situation! To do what they were designed to do, and rez!!!!

/sarcasm off, people don't play this game or there characters to do what you think they should do. Maybe try a single player game? Or eq live with mercs that do only what you want them to.

[Tuurin]

You don't bring enchanters on group excursions with you right? Best leave them parked for Jc purposes. I mean, who wants clarity or CC, chanters were designed to enchant metal and nothing else!!!! Necros are only useful to summon corpses. It's not like they have any sort of utility or ability to solo, so if you do anything other than summon corpses with your necro, your doing it wrong and wasting the whole servers time and pixels!!! Also, this guy is right, what are Druids good for other than porting? Buffs you say? Dps? Offheals? Not necessary!!! We have clerics, whose only job is to Rez you. So have no fear, just die, the cleric has saved all his mana for this situation! To do what they were designed to do, and rez!!!!

/sarcasm off, people don't play this game or there characters to do what you think they should do. Maybe try a single player game? Or eq live with mercs that do only what you want them to.

If you don't feed it, it will go away and/or starve.

[Lhancelot]

I'm not angry, I just expect people to do what their class was designed to do. If you're a Druid or Wizard, you port people. If you're a Shaman, you follow people around buffing them. If you're a Cleric, you rez people. If you're a necro, you summon corpses. If you're an Enchanter, you make enchanted metal and breeze people.

That what these classes are designed for, nothing else.

Communism sounds great in theory but humankind has never seemed able to make it work it seems. Neither have the denizens of Norrath.

Druids and wizards are living in a capitalistic free trade system on P99' and in simpler terms they make what the economy and the people can afford via porting.

When they port, how they port, and who they port is figured out through a simple process of supply, demand and available money to pay for such services.

You might not like the idea of elves and humans porting whoever they want for plats, but honestly you can't stop the oldest profession known to Druids.

I suggest trying it once. You might enjoy it. There's something to be said for the lack of commitment attached to paying someone for your ports through a porting business.

[Loadsamoney]

Communism sounds great in theory but humankind has never seemed able to make it work it seems. Neither have the denizens of Norrath.

Druids and wizards are living in a capitalistic free trade system on P99' and in simpler terms they make what the economy and the people can afford via porting.

When they port, how they port, and who they port is figured out through a simple process of supply, demand and available money to pay for such services.

You might not like the idea of elves and humans porting whoever they want for plats, but honestly you can't stop the oldest profession known to Druids.

I suggest trying it once. You might enjoy it. There's something to be said for the lack of commitment attached to paying someone for your ports through a porting business.

It's not a business, it's a public service. It shouldn't be a source of income, it should just be expected of every Druid, because it's their job.

Do Paladins and Shadowknights get paid extra for tanking? No, they get the same share of loot as the rest of the group, sometimes even less. So why should Druids get more for doing something that should be automatically expected of them?

[Nixtar]

Do Paladins and Shadowknights get paid extra for tanking? No, they get the same share of loot as the rest of the group, sometimes even less. So why should Druids get more for doing something that should be automatically expected of them?

Everyone is there to do what they want. The tank get exp, as does everyone else.

However, if you tell me as a tank I have to be outside of the group and I should be happy tanking because "it is my job" then, yes, you better damn well pay me handsomely.

[Lhancelot]

It's not a business, it's a public service. It shouldn't be a source of income, it should just be expected of every Druid, because it's their job.

Do Paladins and Shadowknights get paid extra for tanking? No, they get the same share of loot as the rest of the group, sometimes even less. So why should Druids get more for doing something that should be automatically expected of them?

I have to admit, you have convinced me. Druids should port everyone around, and in fact I can't believe they have the nerve to charge people.

Chanters don't charge people in groups to do CC or give C... Why does a wizard or druid charge for porting people?

I agree. Ports for money is asinine and ridiculous!

[Dreenk317]

If the Druid or wizard is in my exp group and we decide to move. Ya, I'm expecting them to port the group for free. If I /tell a wizard or Druid to come pick me up and take me somewhere, and don't know them. Why would they port me for free?

What do you do for a living? Do you expect contractors to work for free because it's there "job"? I don't, I pay them to build things because that's how jobs work....

[Troxx]

It's not a business, it's a public service. It shouldn't be a source of income, it should just be expected of every Druid, because it's their job.

Do Paladins and Shadowknights get paid extra for tanking? No, they get the same share of loot as the rest of the group, sometimes even less. So why should Druids get more for doing something that should be automatically expected of them?

Obvious troll is obvious.

Or?

Obvious idiot is obvious.


Which art thou Loadsamoney?

Choose wisely.

[Lhancelot]

Obvious troll is obvious.

Or?

Obvious idiot is obvious.


Which art thou Loadsamoney?

Choose wisely.

He's having a trolling good time! In fact he's probably got an alt in DAP! Who's your porting toon bro, tell us! :D

[Loadsamoney]

I don't need to port for handouts. I get my plat from RMT, so I prefer to play my twinked Ranger.

I don't agree with the RMT rules, while I'm on the subject. If I can afford it, I don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to do it. Not everyone has 15 hours to commit to this game to farm.

[icedwards]

Guardian Kozzalym spawns every 5 days in WW, I expect you to be there 10 min before he spawns to track it for me - because that's your job.

No, you may not roll on the Fusible Vellum Ore.

[Loadsamoney]

Guardian Kozzalym spawns every 5 days in WW, I expect you to be there 10 min before he spawns to track it for me - because that's your job.

No, you may not roll on the Fusible Vellum Ore.

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder654/500x/55312654.jpg

[magicnubs]

You don't bring enchanters on group excursions with you right? Best leave them parked for Jc purposes. I mean, who wants clarity or CC, chanters were designed to enchant metal and nothing else!!!! Necros are only useful to summon corpses. It's not like they have any sort of utility or ability to solo, so if you do anything other than summon corpses with your necro, your doing it wrong and wasting the whole servers time and pixels!!! Also, this guy is right, what are Druids good for other than porting? Buffs you say? Dps? Offheals? Not necessary!!! We have clerics, whose only job is to Rez you. So have no fear, just die, the cleric has saved all his mana for this situation! To do what they were designed to do, and rez!!!!

/sarcasm off, people don't play this game or there characters to do what you think they should do. Maybe try a single player game? Or eq live with mercs that do only what you want them to.

He's just trolling to get a rise out of people. Youre giving him what he wants