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acudk
02-04-2017, 05:55 PM
What race is best and starting point to take ? if you dont take barbarian ?

Guide.Chroma
02-04-2017, 06:03 PM
The rogue guide on the wiki is a good starting point: http://wiki.project1999.com/Zerk%27s_Rogue_Guide

Baa
02-05-2017, 09:22 AM
Sta is where it is at, Str is easy to max

Cecily
02-05-2017, 12:13 PM
The rogue guide on the wiki is a good starting point: http://wiki.project1999.com/Zerk%27s_Rogue_Guide

That guide is so horrible, you couldn't have possibly read it.

Cecily
02-05-2017, 12:28 PM
What race is best and starting point to take ? if you dont take barbarian ?

Aesthetics are the most important thing, so pick which race you can stand to look at for 60 levels. Something to consider: This robe (http://wiki.project1999.com/Robe_of_the_Azure_Sky) can only be used by human, dark elf, and gnome rogues. It's one of two rogue wearable robes on this server and extremely nice for that slot. That's why picking wood elf over dark elf is my biggest regret on Cecily.

Stats - Do any STA / STR combination and you can't mess up too badly.
5 STR /25 STA is the typical min/max. High starting STR will overcap quickly in Velious.

Ivory
02-05-2017, 12:33 PM
Gnome is the best race, it is just scientific fact.

Also, put all da points into DEX! Rogues gotta have sneaky fingers....dexterity helps!!

Jimjam
02-05-2017, 01:28 PM
I put all my points in to charisma in order to best talk my self out of trouble and fence misappropriated goods.

I also rolled half elf so I didn't have a true people to be a traitor against.

xKoopa
02-05-2017, 01:43 PM
doesnt matter, once you get dark elf mask youre gucci anyways

dorf is good for stats and barrel rolls

blondeattk
02-05-2017, 04:05 PM
have you overdosed on marmite??

`Something to consider: This robe can only be used by human, dark elf, and gnome rogues. It's one of two rogue wearable robes on this server and extremely nice for that slot. That's why picking wood elf over dark elf is my biggest regret on Cecily.`

most obtuse thing ive heard in years!

Endonde
02-05-2017, 04:09 PM
Aesthetics are the most important thing, so pick which race you can stand to look at for 60 levels. Something to consider: This robe (http://wiki.project1999.com/Robe_of_the_Azure_Sky) can only be used by human, dark elf, and gnome rogues. It's one of two rogue wearable robes on this server and extremely nice for that slot. That's why picking wood elf over dark elf is my biggest regret on Cecily.

Stats - Do any STA / STR combination and you can't mess up too badly.
5 STR /25 STA is the typical min/max. High starting STR will overcap quickly in Velious.

Pretty much this, the difference between races is so small for a rogue that you should just play what you think looks best.

Cecily
02-05-2017, 04:19 PM
have you overdosed on marmite??

`Something to consider: This robe can only be used by human, dark elf, and gnome rogues. It's one of two rogue wearable robes on this server and extremely nice for that slot. That's why picking wood elf over dark elf is my biggest regret on Cecily.`

most obtuse thing ive heard in years!

I don't understand. High HP, huge resists, is a pretty blue dress. What's.. obtuse.. about that? It's the BIS chest piece for rogues.
And I can't ever have it.

Baa
02-05-2017, 08:17 PM
I have become used to my rogue looking like an upper class hobo.

Just recently my arms bracer and gloves all match (sort of)... it has rocked my world.

Pezy
02-06-2017, 01:11 AM
There's nobody you should trust more than Cecily around here when it comes to advice about Rogues. I fucking love being a Dwarf, but I sure wish I would wear a PD robe.

Should always dump as many points into STA as you can too. STR is super easy to cap as a Rogue, even without stacking Maniacal + Focus.

Lhancelot
02-06-2017, 01:38 AM
I don't understand. High HP, huge resists, is a pretty blue dress. What's.. obtuse.. about that? It's the BIS chest piece for rogues.
And I can't ever have it.

You need to create a dark elf rogue. You can have that awesome blue dress. You can!

blondeattk
02-06-2017, 02:32 AM
`What's.. obtuse.. about that?`

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/obtuse

ponder def 2.

obtuse in british parlance, tends to mean....far removed from the normal. or ` sky blue thinking` ` its ratehr outside the box` `its an obscure reason`

Xaanka
02-06-2017, 03:11 AM
What race is best and starting point to take ? if you dont take barbarian ?

non autistic answer:

any race you can't mask illusion into, it doesn't matter.

humans and half elves are based because nobody knows you're a rogue if you take your epic off.

gnome is by far the best on red in velious. wall looking is good for indoor dungeon pvp, where rogues are most dangerous, and primal can get your player model comically small. the only thing that matters on red is how small you can get your model with shrink pots/primal proc.

on blue, your race choice will never make any difference. pd robe is cool for fashion quest but there are better chests in velious and they're easier to get. gnome wall seeing might help with a few sneak pulls i guess. if you want to get really autistic halflings, then dwarves have the best starting stats but it doesn't matter because you can max the 3 important stats with buffs in pre-raid gear.