50 Killer and 300 shot so far this year in Chicargo

[Beastagoog]

http://abc7chicago.com/news/at-least-50-killed-300-shot-in-chicago-so-far-in-january-cpd-says/1729577/


Dayum *****s y'all sure you're a 1st world country still?

Sounds like shit fresh outta Baghdad.

(Praying 4 the USA)

[bigjerry]

u play EQ in 2017 right?

[bigjerry]

In a city where the police are a worse gang then any other civilian gang ever to sprout up, this makes sense.

I spent 4 hours in that piece of shit place and got extorted 100 dollars for Jay Walking on a crosswalk, and another 100 for making a legal right turn at a red light. I promptly left.

They know their business. 200 is worth not spending a night in a corrupt jail, getting stabbed by Bubba Franks cause some short fucker with the dumbest accent on the planet is upset he beat his two wives and spends his entire paycheck on alimony for his 7 autistic children.

mad

glad chi-town is around to put lil dicks in they place. myself, never had a prob there

[Tassador]

mad

glad chi-town is around to put lil dicks in they place. myself, never had a prob there

Besides the fucking sub zero wind chill the city is great, just have to avoid some spots like in all big cities.

[Tassador]

Baghdad is a fucking piece of shit and you can thank the W for that.

[Gardur]

Yeah those guns bans r real effective.

[bigjerry]

i know its a cliche nowadays but that saying "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" is pretty true

[Gardur]

More people died in Chicago than did in many warzone cities in syria

[AzzarTheGod]

mad

glad chi-town is around to put lil dicks in they place. myself, never had a prob there

same I'm swangin big thangs and get a lot of love in chiraq.

take some Viagra OP

[Gumbo]

I can't help it but when I see or read about Chicago... This always comes to mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg

[Tradesonred]

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.

—60 Minutes (5/12/96)

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Millions died in latin america because of the dictatorships imposed by the US

Millions died in East Asia around the vietnam war

The middle east is a killing fields from US ally Saudi Arabia's ISIS death squads

How many died in Chicago again this year?

[Tassador]

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.

—60 Minutes (5/12/96)

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Millions died in latin america because of the dictatorships imposed by the US

Millions died in East Asia around the vietnam war

The middle east is a killing fields from US ally Saudi Arabia's ISIS death squads

How many died in Chicago again this year?

1. Iraq was fucked when we knocked off Sadam. You don't understand the Middle East and live in a bubble next.

2. you do realize the Japanese were never going to give up and costing the lives of our boys. You're a bitch so you'll never have that courage. Japanese had 300k people ready to suicide or fight to the death. If no bombs more people would of died for sure, but it would of prevented all these long term problems (which no one really thought of at the time).

3. Latin America is dictated by corruption. If you think the US are the reason you should travel more often. The culture is different and capitalism isn't widely accepted. Most Latin Americans want to do nothing and live like everyone else hence why socialism and communism works so wel.

4. Vietnam was bullshit, but the American people protested and we got out with the loss. Something you can't do as you keep coming back here like a loser.

5. Isis and jihadist are real pops. We are actually to nice waiting for these fucks to shoot or attack before we actually attack them. Yep we bombing with drones and sorry for civil casualties we actually take that into consideration unlike piece of shits that fly planes into buildings.

6. What's going on in Chicago is terrible, but if you think that people are just walking in the streets and randomly getting murdered you're wrong. Sure that happens and at a higher rate because of the gang violence. Most of the deaths aren't good kids that were on their way to school. That's what you hear on the news or from their friends and family, but most of these kids went the wrong path and are in actuality pieces of shit killing each other.

Stay off the media you clown. This is the greatest nation in the world. People don't flee shit nations to freeze in Canada. Fuck off

[Tassador]

7. Not mentioned millions die in Africa from poor conditions, dictators, and easily cured diseases but nobody cares. Wonder why?

Man you're such a basic

[Tradesonred]

1. Iraq was fucked when we knocked off Sadam. You don't understand the Middle East and live in a bubble next.

Throughout his reign, Saddam and his regime were a US client state http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/


2. you do realize the Japanese were never going to give up and costing the lives of our boys. You're a bitch so you'll never have that courage. Japanese had 300k people ready to suicide or fight to the death. If no bombs more people would of died for sure, but it would of prevented all these long term problems (which no one really thought of at the time).

Japan had already lost the war, it was an act of pure savagery, to demonstrate to the world the damage a nuclear bomb could do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbqtHI8iiKQ


3. Latin America is dictated by corruption. If you think the US are the reason you should travel more often. The culture is different and capitalism isn't widely accepted. Most Latin Americans want to do nothing and live like everyone else hence why socialism and communism works so wel.

Again your racist views fuels your ignorance and unwillingness to figure out the world around you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_Uni ted_States

Ill stop here because i know youre what is called a dishonest interlocutor, youre not really interested in dialogue. You know, the germans thought the nazis were pretty cool until the chickens came home to roost. They paid last, but they paid dearly.

[TheDuck]

you are so dumb and prove you have never taken any kind of college history courses reguarding ww2, specifically the bomb.

Did we need to use it, no. Would we have lost hundreds of thousands and up to 5million projected dead japanse in a prolonged battle island hopping, yes we would have. Did we also want to use the bomb to make sure everyone knew we would and study its effects after? damn straight. Was that the primary motive? no. just an added bonus that the rest of the world knows America isn't afraid to level you with a fucking split of an atom.

[heartbrand]

The real question re: Japan isn't the 1st bomb, it was whether or not we should have dropped the 2nd.

[TheDuck]

the notion the japanese where just going to surrender without the emporer surrendering is fantasy. and he wasn't budging. after the 1st one. so we dropped a 2nd, and we woulda kept going. Have a read, learn something.

A staple of Hiroshima Revisionism has been the contention that the government of Japan was prepared to surrender during the summer of 1945, with the sole proviso that its sacred emperor be retained. President Harry S. Truman and those around him knew this through intercepted Japanese diplomatic messages, the story goes, but refused to extend such an assurance because they wanted the war to continue until atomic bombs became available. The real purpose of using the bombs was not to defeat an already-defeated Japan, but to give the United States a club to use against the Soviet Union. Thus Truman purposely slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Japanese, not to mention untold thousands of other Asians and Allied servicemen who would perish as the war needlessly ground on, primarily to gain diplomatic advantage.

One might think that compelling substantiation would be necessary to support such a monstrous charge, but the revisionists have been unable to provide a single example from Japanese sources. What they have done instead amounts to a variation on the old shell game. They state in their own prose that the Japanese were trying to surrender without citing any evidence and, to show that Truman was aware of their efforts, cite his diary entry of July 18 referring to a “telegram from Jap Emperor asking for peace.” There it is! The smoking gun! But it is nothing of the sort. The message Truman cited did not refer to anything even remotely resembling surrender. It referred instead to the Japanese foreign office’s attempt (under the suspicious eyes of the military) to persuade the Soviet Union to broker a negotiated peace that would have permitted the Japanese to retain their prewar empire and their imperial system (not just the emperor) intact. No American president could have accepted such a settlement, as it would have meant abandoning the United States’ most basic war aims.

An exchange I had with two revisionists, Martin Sherwin and Kai Bird, is revealing. In the December 2007 issue of Passport (newsletter of the Society for Historians of American Foreign Relations), I published a short critique of their Pulitzer Prize-winning American Prometheus: the Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer. Among other things, I accused them of resorting to “semantic jugglery” in falsely equating Truman’s diary reference to “peace” with “surrender,” and pointed out that they had failed to provide “even a wisp of evidence” that Japan was trying to surrender. In their response, Sherwin and Bird in turn accused me of dismissing a “huge body of distinguished scholarship,” but again failed to include a single example of such evidence.

In particular, Sherwin and Bird berated me for failing to refer to Tsuyoshi Hasegawa’s Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan. “Hasegawa’s research into Soviet and Japanese archives,” they wrote, “is replete with massive new and important ‘wisps’ of evidence about the causes of Japan’s surrender. It seems telling to us that his work is ignored.” What Sherwin and Bird apparently did not know, or hoped their readers did not know, was that although Hasegawa agreed with revisionists on a number of issues he explicitly rejected the early surrender thesis. Indeed, Hasegawa in no uncertain terms wrote that “Without the twin shocks of the atomic bombs and the Soviet entry into the war, the Japanese never would have surrendered in August.” So much for the “massive new and important ‘wisps’ of evidence.”

Undeterred by this fiasco and still unable to produce even a single document from Japanese sources, Bird has continued to peddle the fiction that “peace” meant the same thing as “surrender.” In a mostly contemptuous review of Sir Max Hastings’ s Retribution: The Battle for Japan, 1944-45 (Washington Post Book World, April 20, 2008), Bird professed to be “appalled by the critical evidence left out.” In passing he cited what he referred to as Hasegawa’s “widely praised” book again, but only to note the latter’s claim that Soviet entry into the war rather than the atomic bombs caused Japan’s surrender. There is no mention of the bogus “massive new and important ‘wisps’ of evidence” he and Sherwin earlier had claimed to find in Hasegawa’s work. Bird castigated Hastings because he “can’t find the space to note that Truman, Secretary of State James F. Byrnes, and Adm. William D. Leahy, the president’s chief of staff, all reportedly agreed on Aug. 3, 1945—three days before 140,000 civilians were killed in Hiroshima—that Japan was ‘looking for peace.’ ” Readers of this sentence who were unfamiliar with the sources—meaning practically all of them—could be expected to reach the false conclusion that Japan was trying to surrender.

In the last sentence of his review, Bird wrote that “the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki remain a hot-button issue, something that can make otherwise responsible historian nose-dive into polemics.” How true!

[Eslade]

I would just like to point out that there are no reports on mass shootings in Australia because nobody gives a shit about Australia. Pretty sure the average person would struggle to name 2 cities in that shit hole prison colony.

[Tradesonred]

you are so dumb and prove you have never taken any kind of college history courses reguarding ww2, specifically the bomb.

Did we need to use it, no. Would we have lost hundreds of thousands and up to 5million projected dead japanse in a prolonged battle island hopping, yes we would have. Did we also want to use the bomb to make sure everyone knew we would and study its effects after? damn straight. Was that the primary motive? no. just an added bonus that the rest of the world knows America isn't afraid to level you with a fucking split of an atom.

Japan was already done.

http://www.willamette.edu/~rloftus/postwaremp.html

And Heartbrand is right, Whatever you think about the first bomb, the 2nd one was not about ending the war, neither was the bombing of Tokyo that followed (detailed in the article i linked)

[TheDuck]

not going to click that because you have no idea what your talking about, your obviously not from a family that took part in ww2, my family lost 2 of its 3 men to that war. and i wouldn't exist if that bomb wasn't dropped. If we did drop a 2nd bomb just as a fuck you, then fuck it. Look how it turned out. Japan is a great ally now. Fact is, we dropped 2 bombs, and it worked. we were not going to let the emp sit there and dilly dally and wonder if we had only one bomb, that what he was thinking "maybe they just used there only plutonium, we may loose but we will take alot of them with us". Thats how they thought back then, u remember kamakazi dive bombers right? you are so god damned out of touch lol.

[Ivah]

Chicago is a sanctuary compared to some of the shit holes the world has to offer. Get off the media coolaid

[TheDuck]

Chicago is a sanctuary compared to some of the shit holes the world has to offer. Get off the media coolaid

this

[Bazia]

chicago is the final product of Obamaism

[Tassador]

Throughout his reign, Saddam and his regime were a US client state http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/



Japan had already lost the war, it was an act of pure savagery, to demonstrate to the world the damage a nuclear bomb could do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbqtHI8iiKQ



Again your racist views fuels your ignorance and unwillingness to figure out the world around you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_Uni ted_States

Ill stop here because i know youre what is called a dishonest interlocutor, youre not really interested in dialogue. You know, the germans thought the nazis were pretty cool until the chickens came home to roost. They paid last, but they paid dearly.

I was born outside of the states in a Latin American country btw. So yeah I am fucking racist and voted for trump playa. The second bomb was still necessary the Japanese like agatha is preaching are very proud people. Come on they fought in islands 20-30 years after the war because they refused to accept surrender. Was it savage yes, but necessary evils kid.

You're wrong about Sadam he was a piece of shit, but a stable one. Stability is hard in that region. I am not clicking wiki or YouTube links. Fucking read a book and tell me a book to pick up and I will try and see your side of things.

[Tassador]

You know most murders in Chicago are gang related and it's mostly African American. The news is always going to show a crying mother and pictures of the kid attending high school, but these are not good kids for the most part they are fucking thugs.

[Tradesonred]

I was born outside of the states in a Latin American country btw. So yeah I am fucking racist and voted for trump playa. The second bomb was still necessary the Japanese like agatha is preaching are very proud people. Come on they fought in islands 20-30 years after the war because they refused to accept surrender. Was it savage yes, but necessary evils kid.

You're wrong about Sadam he was a piece of shit, but a stable one. Stability is hard in that region. I am not clicking wiki or YouTube links. Fucking read a book and tell me a book to pick up and I will try and see your side of things.

If by stability you mean a dictator who represses his own people so that american corporations can profit over the carnage, sure.

If you cant be bothered to read 6 paragraphs you aint reading something like Howard Zinn's a people's history of the united states. (The guy was a bomber pilot in WW2)

[Tassador]

Yeah how is Iraq working out now? Woman we're getting their boobs done in Iraq with Sadam around. Now it's really fucking repressed with shitslam.

[TheDuck]

the whole point was not just to remove sadam, it was destabalize the region, the direct power vacume left as a result of us not gettin that shit together and leaving was no accident.

it produced what several poeple now refer to as the caliphate, and where did that grp of sunni muslim extremists come from? the power vacume, and where did they head after? right to assad to topple him, which just so happens to be one of our 7 countries in 5 years tour. yeeeahhh

[georgie]

we out here in the hole

[Tradesonred]

the whole point was not just to remove sadam, it was destabalize the region, the direct power vacume left as a result of us not gettin that shit together and leaving was no accident.

it produced what several poeple now refer to as the caliphate, and where did that grp of sunni muslim extremists come from? the power vacume, and where did they head after? right to assad to topple him, which just so happens to be one of our 7 countries in 5 years tour. yeeeahhh

Destabilize you fucking clown lol

Vacume XD lol

Trump should make you secretary of state

[TheDuck]

saddam was doing a great job in Iraq imo

was just a bullshit excuse to spend a ton of money on a fake war to black hole it all

also ecoli eats from dumpsters LOL

was an extremely innovative way to pit the sunni and shia against eachother by creating a power vacume, diverting both sides of international terror funding into protecting and funding the war between tribes.

yawl gotta look at the bigger picture.

[Ragnaros]

the whole point was to get oil sadam was a scapegoat

[bigjerry]

oil blood money make them killers ride cold

[AzzarTheGod]

The real question re: Japan isn't the 1st bomb, it was whether or not we should have dropped the 2nd.

Not really I've studied it and no bomb was warranted they already approached the Russians about surrender.

They refused the US ultimatum because it was barbaric and disrespected the right to retain a constitutional Monarchy.

All generals agreed that the offer was fake because the Japanese would never forsake their emperor completely.

Barbaric offer then barbaric action. Read more.

[AzzarTheGod]

oil blood money make them killers ride cold

I'm sonning edits like HB on Japan.

U can't tell me shit about the bomb. The offer of surrender made to Japan was considered a fraudulent one.

Read up or kick rocks boys

[AzzarTheGod]

If I have to dunk on the emp with sources I will.

He better stand down now and save face.

[Tassador]

Why don't you read about the Japanese who even after the surrender refused to surrender and fought years after the war.

[bigjerry]

nawww locc nuke was justified

japs sold cigarettes laced w opium to pacify the lower g00ks they dont get no mercy

[AzzarTheGod]

nawww locc nuke was justified

japs sold cigarettes laced w opium to pacify the lower g00ks they dont get no mercy

dim sum i didnt know about this. good thing we were preparing a 3rd bomb and had begun the shipping process for the 3rd bomb then.

in light of this info no less than 5-6 bombs would be required, maybe more.

[AzzarTheGod]

apologies to emp hb i didnt know about this mind shattering discovery i was truly misinformed.

the rising sun was cleansed rightfully.

[magician]

u play EQ in 2017 right?

[Beastagoog]

u play EQ in 2017 right?

Have not logged in since 2016.

Thanks 4 asking tho

[Beastagoog]

I did a FA ticket last year (first aid) and our instructor was this American chick who basically dumped on the USA sayijg how much of a shit hole it was.

Said she was earning 17 bux an hour as a ambulance driver working 10-12 hour days.

Said she was so glad to move to Australia where she earning 80k a year teaching FA doing a 9-5.

It is almost like Australia is the new America where all the wealth and easy chances are here for the picking.

The American dream is over so to speak. Like who the fuck pays 200k for a Uni degree?

Was reading the other day that in one of our town down south they offering 120-140k per year to dudes to work on construction sites because they screaming out for workers.

[Beastagoog]

Crime rates up
Murder rates up
Debts up

It's over boys.