How to get a port

[Gandite]

1) Money talks. That 3 line /tell you just sent me explaining why you need my services is sweet but you're wasting your time and mine. You want my attention?

/t Gandite gfay to nro 40p

2) If you're on a CR you are absolutely at the mercy of the person porting you. Don't bother with the "I'll hit you up later/when I get my body/when I get back to EC" because I don't believe you. Heard it all a trillion times and I don't care. If I ported you for your CR its because I felt like helping you out. If you do make good on it that's awesome, but the vast majority don't so save your breath.

3) Don't sit somewhere and /ooc for a ride. Even if you're donating or sitting somewhere heavily populated like EC. Do a /who and find someone. Even when I'm fishing for ports I ignore a large amount of that stuff. The people advertising do the same thing. They expect you to come to them, not the other way around. Don't wait. Make that shit happen.

4) A port is a luxury, not a right. If you're a low level figure 1pp/level until you figure out the paper chase. If you're level 45 and you offer me 20p to pick you up and port you somewhere go die in a fire. You're wasting my time and you know it. If you can't let go of your precious monies get a sow and start putting one foot in front of the other. There's always the boats!

edit:

5) Always pay in platinum. Why the fuck are you carrying 600 gold? Seriously.

[DoucLangur]

I don't like the greedy tone in this. Yes, I do agree that many people can be a nuisance and do not deserve to be ported for the kind of manners they show.

However, I found that as a true newbie, it is hard to find help when people automatically expect you to be an alt, and charge you 25pp (for a level 7!) to get out of Toxx - for instance - to the commonlands.

So - I'd agree that donating is good practice, and I definitely agree that no one can demand to be ported, but I think many porters are being greedy about it, charging rates that only twinks can afford.

I think what's affordable to a level 10 would be in the range of 5-10pp but that is already a huge amount of money that will be missed sorely when buying spells later.

I generally SoW people when I don't have anything better to do without expecting money, and turn down donations from lower levels. I am happy if porters treat me the same. Sure, zoning is involved, usually twice, so that is some extra effort - but going (a bit) out of your way to help people is what makes EQ a fun social experience for everyone.

Just my 2c,

Slozem (currently 23 shm)

[Zereh]

/ooc Paying 50pp for a lift to _________ <--- works like a charm

But I think it's better that every porter put up a list of how they prefer to be approached. Then we non-porters can print out the thread and refer to it as necessary.

Oh. And please porters, post in alphabetical order!

[Gandite]

There's nothing greedy about this. I've never charged anyone up front and I never advertise that I'm porting. If I want money I fish. If someone expected 25pp to get your level 7 off Toxx you've asked a huge dick.

Also remember like I said its a luxury. Your level 7 can still travel. There's a boat to qeynos, and then the longest run of your life to get to anywhere meaningful.

[Ledzepp02]

Zereh, i just noticed you're from Kirkland 0_0 i'm from Sammamish pretty much nearby there. lol wtf

[Evilmog]

Zepp I ran into something similar on Live back in the day.

After being in a guild for almost 3 years, found out my Guild Leader lived about 10 mins from me.

I /gquit and never played live again.

Tru story!

[Ledzepp02]

dude i was about to say Zereh, Wurli, me and my gf... Tech City bowling! lets do eeet. lmao

[Alkorin]

Condescending much? I'd sooner walk than ask you for anything at this point.

I'd go into a few reasons why your expectations are ridiculous, but you seem to be set in your ways, so... yeah.

[Omnimorph]

Hell, i usually donate a gem of some sort for a port because it weighs less than carrying money. It wasn't mentioned in your rules of etiquette for asking for a port so i'll assume it's frowned upon.

Since we're complaining about people's attitudes when asking for things. Here's Here's my criteria :-
1. Don't bother sending me a tell with just "clarity" or "c" ... because that's not a question, it's not polite, and i'm not going to buff you. /tell "can i get a clarity plz?" works fine.

2. Don't donate, C isn't worth a lot of money, and i'd rather not have to move my mouse to accept your 3pp, give it to a noob or something. Also you mess up my targeting, as well as mean no one else can open a trade with me.

3. Be in range of where i am, i'm not looking for you, i'm going to /rtarget you and cast, that's all.

4. I hate you, don't think i buff you because i think you're nice.

5. If you're a class of remotely any use (dru, sham, cle) then you may as well try and toss me a complimentary buff.

[Gandite]

I've never been given gems before but I think that's a fine idea. It never occurred to me that it would save weight. You would not believe how many motherfuckers pay me in gold. WHY ARE YOU CARRYING ALL OF THAT?

I feel like I could have said some of what I said better, for example on #1) is based on an assumption you're planning on paying for the port in the first place. It isn't about the money its that I want you to spit it the fuck out.

/t Gandite hi are you porting?
/r yeah sure
/t Gandite if it isn't too much trouble I'd like to donate for a port to sro
/r yeah sure
/t Gandite awesome where are you?
/r tunnel ent

This has nothing to do with the money. Just spit it out. People send me tells that are a fucking paragraph long explaining that they need a port. I'm a wizard I get it.

/t Gandite 50p for a sro port
/r tunnel ent

Here is the chase, and that is how you cut to it.

[epicentre]

Ah this is the thread where everyone decribes how he sells it's class-related services? I think this should be in the "EC Tunnel" thread, but here we go:

Service details
As a chanter, I give haste for free and will quickly hit "Cancel" when I'm offered a plat or two. I will do the same with clarity as soon as I get it. That beeing said, I won't give any buff if I have to save my mana for private purposes.

Rudeness
Also, if you behave like an ass, aren't polite, don't say hello and such things, you will be in ignorelist within 3.5 seconds without warning, without explanation. That way, I won't have to open another whiner's thread here, and the issue will be solved forever.

Next service description and pricing, please.

P.S.: BTW, if you play EQ you're already waisting your time, so just sit back, relax and enjoy.

[moklianne]

1)4) A port is a luxury, not a right. If you're a low level figure 1pp/level until you figure out the paper chase. If you're level 45 and you offer me 20p to pick you up and port you somewhere go die in a fire. You're wasting my time and you know it. If you can't let go of your precious monies get a sow and start putting one foot in front of the other. There's always the boats!

In a world where the undead in Kithicor forest despawns during the day, I'd agree with you. Unfortuantely, we do not.

[Gandite]

[QUOTE=Gandite;212227]1)4) A port is a luxury, not a right. If you're a low level figure 1pp/level until you figure out the paper chase. If you're level 45 and you offer me 20p to pick you up and port you somewhere go die in a fire. You're wasting my time and you know it. If you can't let go of your precious monies get a sow and start putting one foot in front of the other. There's always the boats!

In a world where the undead in Kithicor forest despawns during the day, I'd have no problems hoofing it. Now, its kind of out of the question to make the run from FP to Qeynos on foot.

I'm sure everyone has done it though I certainly wouldn't wish it on anyone. I did it at 17. Builds character. Quite literally.

[Rasah]

/t Gandite 50p for a sro port
/r tunnel ent

Here is the chase, and that is how you cut to it.Because if they said:
/t Gandite 10p for a sro port
/r I'm trying to hold my camp. sorry.

The donate bit gets you to admit you aren't busy.

[Estu]

In a world where the undead in Kithicor forest despawns during the day, I'd agree with you. Unfortuantely, we do not.

That doesn't make it impassable by any means; you just have to hug the wall.

[Alkorin]

In a world where the undead in Kithicor forest despawns during the day, I'd agree with you. Unfortuantely, we do not.

Hug the wall. Works every time. If you get aggro on the wall, you're doing it wrong.

[korrowan]

[QUOTE=moklianne;212274]

I'm sure everyone has done it though I certainly wouldn't wish it on anyone. I did it at 17. Builds character. Quite literally.

I did it at level 1.... its not hard to run on the wall.

[Gandite]

wait so the undead in kith never despawn?

[Dr4z3r]

If I invite you to a group when I see you "running" in the same direction that I'm Selo's-ing, don't stand there for a minute and a half wondering where the "FOLLOW" button went. You know damn well where it is, so click it quickly, and stay close. I'm giving you a ride because it's nice for you, not because I want to admire the scenery with you by my side.

[moklianne]

wait so the undead in kith never despawn?

Yes. Its currently bugged. You should be glad. Its a boon for porters.

[Versus]

All very interesting. I just want to throw my .02 in here because I am bored at work.

I used to be pretty wealthy on Live...YEARS back. Now, on P99, I started a Monk 2 weeks back. I'm broke as fuck. Hell, I destroy my silver/copper on an hourly basis. Now, that being said, I've found that the large majority of people are extremely helping on P99. I've donated for a port but once when I was in dire straits. I know some of you people shit 5p, but at the time, it was 1/4 of my entire wealth.

That being said, being polite and maybe cracking a joke go a long ways in getting someone to help you. If you don't have the cash, they will understand. If you make a good impression, perhaps they will hook you up. Hell, maybe you'll help them back on a CR later on in life.

Anyone who's ever ported/SoW'd Phisting, if you ever need a single pull or a corpse run, I'm your man. And I still only have ~200p to my name, so I will be relying on you generosity for some time.

[Mcbard]

Bitch bitch bitch

[Rasah]

The way I see it is this.

If a wiz/dru ports into a zone and says he is porting for donations, that is the equivalent of a bus. Someone always comes by. Pay what you think is right for a bus.
If you advertise in ooc that you need a ride, that is the equivalent of hailing a taxi. Pay accordingly.
If you send an unsolicited tell to someone, you just called for a limo. Offer accordingly.

[teganyavo]

I kinda hate this attitude, I'd rather just run than be told by some self-important druid that "I am at his mercy on CR" and "money talks"... and I usually donate very well. All a self-centered douchepost like this does is ensure that you'll be the last person I ask if I'm ever looking to buy a port.

I'm sorry dude, but you're a wizard or a druid. Porting is what you do.... whether for pay or not, it's in your character's profile. When I played an enchanter and people asked me for clarity, I usually just did it... and they usually donated. When they didn't, I didn't get on my high horse and make passive-agressive forum posts about it.

And frankly, if you played a warrior for a few weeks I bet your tone would change.

If you're level 45 and you offer me 20p to pick you up and port you somewhere go die in a fire. You're wasting my time and you know it.

I'm sorry dude, I don't care how cool you think you are, five minutes of your time and 20% of your mana is not inherently worth more than 2% of an HBC, especially if you're just sitting in EC with anonymous off. Get real

[teganyavo]

Because if they said:
/t Gandite 10p for a sro port
/r I'm trying to hold my camp. sorry.

The donate bit gets you to admit you aren't busy.

^ this, btw

[Tumdumm]

The way I see it is this.

If a wiz/dru ports into a zone and says he is porting for donations, that is the equivalent of a bus. Someone always comes by. Pay what you think is right for a bus.
If you advertise in ooc that you need a ride, that is the equivalent of hailing a taxi. Pay accordingly.
If you send an unsolicited tell to someone, you just called for a limo. Offer accordingly.

i like this

[toddfx]

I also port people based on how kind they are about it. I certainly don't need a formal introduction and full run-down of their history, but I hate it when somebody comes up and just blatantly says "sow plz" or "port to misty?"

No, "plz" does not count as a genuine please in my book. Being too lazy to type out the full word actually has the opposite effect on me...it comes across as being MORE rude than just leaving it out all together, to be honest.

I will generally port just about anybody who sends me a /tell regardless of if they mention a donation or not, trusting they ask in a polite manner and I am not busy doing something else. I only respond to people /shouting or /oocing if they explicitly name a substantial amount (30pp+ will do it for me). If you send me a tell, though, I will usually just accept regardless. It is indeed some strange logic, but whatever...it works for me.

In summary, I'd definitely say the best advice for somebody looking for a port or pickup is to /who druid and send them a polite tell. Be smart about it though..use your brain. Start with EC - it's home base for porting druids, and anybody in the zone is just going to be sitting idle for the most part. Don't even bother sending tells to somebody deep in LGuk or something, because they're obviously busy leveling.

[azeth]

"Donations" != payment for services rendered.

fixt version - "Porting to soandso, donations accepted!" or "Porting to soandso for XX platinum fee"

[Lelroni]

I usually pay 30-40pp for a port. Most of the time a wizard or druid in his/her 30/40's will respond and happily port me. Paying over 50pp for a straight up port from A to B is over priced (unless the person paying wants to donate that much, it's his choice). Only time I could see you paying more is if the porter was picking someone up, porting multiple people or to multiple locations.

[Shannacore]

I usually pay 30-40pp for a port. Most of the time a wizard or druid in his/her 30/40's will respond and happily port me. Paying over 50pp for a straight up port from A to B is over priced (unless the person paying wants to donate that much, it's his choice). Only time I could see you paying more is if the porter was picking someone up, porting multiple people or to multiple locations.

I got 600pp for a port once. Nice guy.

[President]

I generally base my ports on how much of an inconvenience it is for the porter. I don't agree that level 50's should for some reason be paying 50p+ for any port, but maybe thats because I'm the brokest level 50 on the server. If we are right next to eachother in EC tunnel or I catch you at a ring/spire, 20p, if you have to go out of your way to pick me up, 30-40p+ depending on how bad it is. I've rarely given 50p or more for a port, but I think I paid 150p once to get out of perma.

[Gandite]

nothin like stirrin the pot

[Lazortag]

1) Money talks. That 3 line /tell you just sent me explaining why you need my services is sweet but you're wasting your time and mine. You want my attention?

/t Gandite gfay to nro 40p

2) If you're on a CR you are absolutely at the mercy of the person porting you. Don't bother with the "I'll hit you up later/when I get my body/when I get back to EC" because I don't believe you. Heard it all a trillion times and I don't care. If I ported you for your CR its because I felt like helping you out. If you do make good on it that's awesome, but the vast majority don't so save your breath.

3) Don't sit somewhere and /ooc for a ride. Even if you're donating or sitting somewhere heavily populated like EC. Do a /who and find someone. Even when I'm fishing for ports I ignore a large amount of that stuff. The people advertising do the same thing. They expect you to come to them, not the other way around. Don't wait. Make that shit happen.

4) A port is a luxury, not a right. If you're a low level figure 1pp/level until you figure out the paper chase. If you're level 45 and you offer me 20p to pick you up and port you somewhere go die in a fire. You're wasting my time and you know it. If you can't let go of your precious monies get a sow and start putting one foot in front of the other. There's always the boats!

edit:

5) Always pay in platinum. Why the fuck are you carrying 600 gold? Seriously.

How to get a manasong:

1) Money talks. That 3 line /tell you just sent me explaining why you need my services is sweet but you're wasting your time and mine. You want my attention?

/t Giegue manasong 40p

2) If you're on a CR you are absolutely at the mercy of the person manasonging you. Don't bother with the "I'll hit you up later/when I get my body/when I get back to EC" because I don't believe you. Heard it all a trillion times and I don't care. If I manasonged you for your CR its because I felt like helping you out. If you do make good on it that's awesome, but the vast majority don't so save your breath.

3) Don't sit somewhere and /ooc for a manasong. Even if you're donating or sitting somewhere heavily populated like EC. Do a /who and find someone. Even when I'm fishing for manasongs I ignore a large amount of that stuff. The people advertising do the same thing. They expect you to come to them, not the other way around. Don't wait. Make that shit happen.

4) A manasong is a luxury, not a right. If you're a low level figure 1pp/level until you figure out the paper chase. If you're level 45 and you offer me 20p to pick you up and manasong you somewhere go die in a fire. You're wasting my time and you know it. If you can't let go of your precious monies get a clarity and start putting your legs in a cross-legged formation.

edit:

5) Always pay in platinum. Why the fuck are you carrying 600 gold? Seriously.

[Fourthmeal]

think outside the bun

[Acillatem]

I'm a WIZ.....99% of the ports I do are becuz I'm always showing [50 Wizard] and I get a random /tell. NOT becuz I'm advertising.

Now becuz of that - ya I get kinda pissy when people don't cough up some plat. Lower levels, n00bs, CRs I don't care. But twinked out fukin alts, or anyone conning dark blue or even? Ya you should pay up.

For me, I don't want reimbursed for the "service". I would like compensation for my "time". Time is Money.

That's why I say I don't mind helping out n00bs, low levels, corpse runs etc. I'm choosing to donate my time and help someone out.

[Raylan]

I hardly ever accept money. The only time I do is when its obvious by a persons gear that they can just throw money at my like a one legged German stripper. Also, I always SoW someone who asks me to port them. Just saying.

[Aprio]

I hardly ever accept money. The only time I do is when its obvious by a persons gear that they can just throw money at my like a one legged German stripper. Also, I always SoW someone who asks me to port them. Just saying.

What good is a SoW to a one legged German stripper? :D

[Jadian]

And why are one legged strippers throwing money?

[Yinaltin]

go die in a fire if you charge 50 pp . who do you think you are ? . my 2 copper .

[Glaani]

The way I see it is this.

If a wiz/dru ports into a zone and says he is porting for donations, that is the equivalent of a bus. Someone always comes by. Pay what you think is right for a bus.
If you advertise in ooc that you need a ride, that is the equivalent of hailing a taxi. Pay accordingly.
If you send an unsolicited tell to someone, you just called for a limo. Offer accordingly.

Brilliant!

[maegi]

I'm sick of seeing porting for donations. You are not a pastor in a church or running a charity to feed homeless kids. Say you want to be paid and how much instead of being a vague selfish little prick. Nuff said.

[Akame]

I'm sick of seeing porting for donations. You are not a pastor in a church or running a charity to feed homeless kids. Say you want to be paid and how much instead of being a vague selfish little prick. Nuff said.

Not always, when I port for donations I pick up anywhere from 5g from a <20 player, to 60pp from a high level cleric, it's their decision how much to donate, the key is to actually simply accept how much they donate without complaint. Then the statement is correct.

[Ihealyou]

Most people I rez end up paying somewhere around 30 or 40p, so expecting 50p for a port is a little ridiculous imo. If I need to go somewhere, I'll pay that much, but don't expect it as a normal payment.

I think we should talk about the people that want you to drag and rez their three corpses for 20p :(

[freakyuno]

The word "Donation" vs "Payment"

...discuss

[Darian]

Just curious- how much do yall think port prices go up when Kunark launches? It's been a while since I was on live but IIRC 100pp+ for a ride to DL spires wasn't uncommon

[Omnimorph]

The word "Donation" vs "Payment"

...discuss

Payment limits a person to adhere to paying the amount you advertise. You won't get any service from people who can't afford this, so you're guaranteed this much. Donations allows you to be payed in excess of this (which druids / wizards like) but then also opens the possibility of someone giving you 5p.

If you ask for donations you forego the right to complain given that you'll probably make up the money from someone else overdonating... so in short. Stop your whinging. It's a bit of time and money.

If druids / wizards are making this much money porting for donations per hour, then me claritying them is going to have to start working out at the amount it increases their efficacy of ports per hour * donations.

So yah, if you ask for c in the future and you're porting people. You should pay the ench at least 300p. Since they're speeding up your ability to make money. :D

Saying that, i've never paid less than 50p for a port :p

[Ralexia]

This is like the prostitution fee schedule described in Freakanomics 2. Street prostitutes would charge a flat fee to black patrons, who usually had lower incomes and could pay less, but would leave the amount up to their white patrons. The whites would overpay on average. In terms of economics, they were price discriminating to the whites in order to extract more producer surplus. Sounds sexy, huh?

[Bigcountry23]

People who make posts like this are the same people who squealed the loudest when PoP made them obsolete.

[Droodler]

People who make posts like this are the same people who squealed the loudest when PoP made them obsolete.

People actually played PoP?

[Akame]

People actually played PoP?

It was probably one of the most pivotal expansions for EQ of all time.

[Akame]

Double post

[splitshine]

Just wanted to add a little to this:

Can people start getting smarter about choosing who you're going to send a tell about for ports please? When you do a /who all druid 29 50 and you see that I'm in Lguk or any other dungeon, I'm not going to be porting.

[Krimsin]

Don't bother with the "I'll hit you up later/when I get my body/when I get back to EC" because I don't believe you.


Haha so I've played for 4 days and I feel like I'm at least 50% responsible for this post!

Thanks for the free moves gandy! Yer the man!

[Randy]

I find it funny when people sit in the EC for ports to like feerott for more than 5 minutes cause you can run there in that time.

[William_Munny15]

You're "rules" are dumb, I /ooc paying for port to so and so 75pp, i get 5 tells in 10 seconds... so maybe you have no fucking idea what you're talking about... lol

[Gandite]

You're "rules" are dumb, I /ooc paying for port to so and so 75pp, i get 5 tells in 10 seconds... so maybe you have no fucking idea what you're talking about... lol

That's good man you're a fat fish and as a wizard I love you. Its just I see every day people advertising ports and people looking to get one and sometimes they wait along time. Dude told me the other day after I finally ported him he waited for an hour! And he was paying! I just think people would get better results if they asked directly.

This thread though? Going places. Loving it. Like settin up the bitch bomb.

edit: also they aren't rules and I never said they were. Think of them more as simple guidelines. Nothing is ever set in stone silly!

[Gandite]

Haha so I've played for 4 days and I feel like I'm at least 50% responsible for this post!

Thanks for the free moves gandy! Yer the man!

Hey man glad I could help. I'm usually always willing to port someone for a CR unless I'm busy. Especially if I'm fishing in EC. Very common to see someone I just ported for a CR who is bound in EC to pop back in naked.

If Charrm reads the forums he'll know what I'm talking about ahaha.

[cole229]

Yea I don't understand the - "x wizard/druid shouts 'porting for donations pst' - I say '10pp for port to location' - x wizard/druid says 'i dont port for anything less than 20pp' ....Really?...

[Rhambuk]

I normally donate 25pp for a port when I'm not desperate, though after reading your bullshit how to "guide" I'd rather run from steamfont to toxx and back than give you 5 silver. 20pp isn't enough for the precious 2 minutes it takes to port? Give me a break, if your just trying to get people to think ports are actually worth something goodluck because for every doucher demanding 50p a port there's another dru or wiz right there willing to do it for free because FFS it takes like 30 seconds. Quit your bitching that some noob couldn't afford to give you all of his money to get out of his starting area

[PabloEdvardo]

I disagree with everything OP said. Sounds like a greedy bastard to me.

1pp/level? Are you kidding?

My first LIVE toon was a Wizard, and I don't think I ever 'charged' more than maybe 10pp for a port? (Except planes, of course).

Just because people are willing to pay you a lot of money doesn't mean that your services are WORTH that much money.

I have yet to have an issue getting ports, and you know how I do it?

Either OOC, "paying 8-10pp (depending on how generous I'm feeling) for a port to soandso, pst"

or, sit by a rings/spire and say, "paying 8-10pp for a port to soandso" when I see a porting class arrive.

Works every time, and people are happy to port me, because they KNOW what they're getting. They don't just ask for donations and then get pissy when only a couple plat hits the trade window.

The problem I see with you 'entitled' taxis, is that you just end up looking like assholes. I recently got a port from some greedy druid that complained because I wasn't giving him at least 25pp after he agreed to port me. Why ask for donations when you're really asking for a specific amount?

A donation is like a TIP, not everyone tips the same, and attitude definitely comes into my 'tipping', so if you expect 25pp I'll probably tip you 5.

In addition, there are so many druids on this server (many created solely for the purpose of porting) that you are nothing special or unique, and you don't get to make your own 'rules'. If you try and throw that crap at me I'll just move on to the next one.

I don't like it when people just say 'sow plz' to my shaman, either, but that doesn't mean I go off on them every time it happens. Either they get a sow or I ignore them and they can move on.

/rant

[Akame]

Say pretty please with sugar on top and I'd probably port you anywhere for nothing. :) I'm a sucker for nice people.

[Messianic]

I love it when people think you're "greedy" because you demand a certain pay for your service.

First of all, So what? Anyone who plays this game plays for some selfish reason - even if that selfish reason involves other people. Desire for self-gain is a good thing - even moreso, it's absolutely critical for an existence without wanting to stab yourself in the eyes.

Second, porting isn't "clicking a button." It's the fact that you chose to level that class, spent the time to level to a place where you could actually port other people, and are willing to port someone, instead of going to hunt or camp something. If someone chooses to value their time at 5000pp per port, there's nothing wrong with that.

No one is entitled to ports, despite how so many people believe they're such generous and self-sacrificing people who ported someone for free or for only a few plat, and no one is entitled to ports for a certain price.

Therefore, people can price their ports at whatever they want, and that doesn't make them a jerk - it just means they value their time differently than you do. And I sure hope they do, because they'll start receiving a mountain of tells in time to spend their time porting people instead of doing what they really signed on to do. And I doubt they signed on just to port people around.

[Rasah]

No one is entitled to ports, despite how so many people believe they're such generous and self-sacrificing people who ported someone for free or for only a few plat, and no one is entitled to ports for a certain price.

Therefore, people can price their ports at whatever they want, and that doesn't make them a jerk - it just means they value their time differently than you do. And I sure hope they do, because they'll start receiving a mountain of tells in time to spend their time porting people instead of doing what they really signed on to do. And I doubt they signed on just to port people around.
^ this.

[cole229]

No one is entitled to ports, despite how so many people believe they're such generous and self-sacrificing people who ported someone for free or for only a few plat, and no one is entitled to ports for a certain price.

Therefore, people can price their ports at whatever they want, and that doesn't make them a jerk - it just means they value their time differently than you do. And I sure hope they do, because they'll start receiving a mountain of tells in time to spend their time porting people instead of doing what they really signed on to do. And I doubt they signed on just to port people around.

I believe you missed the point somewhere. To shout that you are porting for donations and then when someone throws up 10pp in a trade window you go off on them because its not atleast 20pp is doing it wrong.

[Ellia]

Ths is funny. I play a wizard and I do not play to port people around. I play for entertainment. I generally port for free. Generally means if i'm involved in a quest. on a CR or helping someone else out and you send me a tell for a port you'd better off up some coin or i'm going to tell you i'm busy.

When Kunark comes out the price of porting by a wizard will increase 5 fold, and a little heads up, some of the port-ins spots are "Hot" meaning instant agro to KOS mobs for the druid or wizard.

My toon, my rules, you dont like it put me on ignore.

[Omnimorph]

It's simple. If you say you're porting for donations, you get a donation. If you want more than they offer, then agree it before hand or port for a fixed price.

/end thread

[Myrkskog]

No kidding. If you port for donations, don't bitch at how much your donation is. make it a flat rate in your announcement if you have such a problem with getting "short changed."

But that is it, isn't it? If you say "for donations" then there is a chance you will get more than your flat rate would be, and that's why a lot of people say "for donations" and not 20pp. So when these people get other side of the donations blade and complain, they can fuck off.

[Kailo]

I've no problem with free ports and am also happy when people decide that they want to toss me a few coins. The only thing that gets to me is when someone drops group before i even zone in from gating (sometimes i zone slower). Be courteous!