Oggok/Grobb Guards

[TripleLegit]

Hello, I was wondering when a good level would be to start killing guards as an enchanter would be, I've heard it's pretty good exp and money so I'd like to start doing that. I am level 39 at the moment. I feel really in over my head in Kunark, and I haven't tried my hand at charm soloing much yet as most people suggest kunark for charm soloing spots. So that's another reason I was hoping to kill some guards. Any further tips and suggestions would also be welcome. Thanks!

[Canelek]

You just use summoned pet? Has that been effective for you? It seems charming/breaking for a double kill would be more efficient, but that is usually the only way I roll, so am not super familiar with alternatives. I want to say low 40s is good for Grobb, but it has been a while!

[TripleLegit]

No, when I have attempted to solo it's always been charm. However all the lower camps suggested for soloing when I tried were usually camped so I opted to group most of the time. But now that I'm 39 I really want to get into it, especially somewhere that I can make good money and exp at. Anyways no I haven't used a summoned pet since like level 20

[Canelek]

Ahhh. Let's see. 39-40 FV should be solid charming pirate cartographers and fear kiting drolvargs along the cliff. Hag/undead knight tower in Unrest will be greening out but still good exp. OT comes to mind, but I always found OT dreadfully boring.

Kaesora should be good, however, or the bottom floor of Dalnir. And of course there is lower guk, SolB and maybe Mistmoore.

[TripleLegit]

Yeah Kunark sketches me out, besides OT I could try there. Never been to any of the other places you mentioned

[Pyrion]

You can try solB, need to be very carefull though, adds can be plenty.

[TripleLegit]

Yeah adds definitely scare me haha. Been trying OT, I do fine unless I try and keep mobs even to kill at the same time. That's difficult. But when I just have let kill as much as he can and then break charm when he is low and kill him it's a bit easier.

[Computer Man]

You can do up to 48ish in Paineel if you want city guards (further in) - it wont trash your faction there either, and the bank/vendors aren't a pain to get to in distance.

[TripleLegit]

How does that not ruin my faction?? ��

[nostalgiaquest]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251625&highlight=guard+charming

Forum search is your friend.

At 39, the dwarves in butchblock would be a good place to hone your charming skills. then at 40 you can move to oggok.

head to the dock compound in butcher. there's a fisher dude and another dwarf on each dock. pit those two against each other. then there's two in the huts near the entrance to the compound. fight them against each other. then if you run out of the compound there's a ruin on your left that has two more to pit against each other. Will ruin you kaladim faction, but who cares. sell to the high elf guy in the compound.

Guides for oggok and grobb are in the post linked above.

[Computer Man]

How does that not ruin my faction?? ��

Paineel was a fast tracked addition to vanilla EQ, for free for everyone. Because of that, for whatever reason...someone forgot to assign modifiers for killing guards there. Everything else you could kill has things assigned, but not the guards.

Not sure why, but why not get involved? 7pp per kill + coin.

[TripleLegit]

Well I broke down and just went to CoM because I suck at charm soloing in OT. I might get through this hell level and try some guards somewhere else. But man I just can't get the whole kill both for full xp thing down. I always end up OOM from the nukes or I end up dead lol but thanks for the advice everyone

[Crawdad]

Well I broke down and just went to CoM because I suck at charm soloing in OT. I might get through this hell level and try some guards somewhere else. But man I just can't get the whole kill both for full xp thing down. I always end up OOM from the nukes or I end up dead lol but thanks for the advice everyone

If you're nuking more than once you're doing it wrong.

Mez mob->Tash mob->Charm mob, wait for mez to fade.
Send pet at second mob->Root second mob->Wait for both mobs to be at 5-10% health.
Break charm->root old pet->Nuke both->You're done good job

The whole shebang should take you maybe 20-50% of your mana, depending on breaks/resists/if you sit and med during the fight.

There's a ton of guides/info out there on hunting guards from 29-56. Hunting guards is one of the safest/easiest/most profitable grinds. If you need any in-game help or examples of how to keep them similar health/not wasting mana nuking shoot me a PM.

[TripleLegit]

Yeah I think I have been too worried about wasting mana so I have tried using smaller nukes, maybe I'll just start using my biggest. Keeping them even is an issue, usually end up with pet at 10% and enemy at 35-40 % and slowing the enemy makes it the opposite. I might try using my lower slow. But I'll try not worrying about mana so much, because I really want to get good at soloing since it's the best experience. Thanks for the tips I might be PMing you soon. As for the guides I've read them all and I've read them two to five times each, as well as watching YouTube videos, like Tecmos soloing. But I'll just keep at it!

[TripleLegit]

It's funny too because when I asked a couple high level chanters in game and another friend of mine they all said they never did the whole kill both for full exp thing. They told me just let my pet kill. I did that for a while but I might as well group up if I'm going to lose half my exp.

[Kotopes]

Can start ogre guards at level 39, as you level up there they become much easier. At 46 some will turn green, but exp is still decent till 47. In ogre form and casting Benevolence you remain dubious to them even when max KoS.

Grobb guards can be fun but generally arent worth it due to cramped area and high hp.

47+ just find some lonely druid and do spirocs at KFC in TD (charm a proven for backstabs), or head to Dreadlands and charm a drolvarg rager. Give it two rusty weapons, haste it and kill away. Again partnering with a druid makes this insanely fun and quick exp. Druid pulls, ensnares, you cast Chase the Moon and sick pet. When 49+ switch to ravishing dogs. Collect no drop teeth from dogs and turn them at FV when you are 54+ (a stack gives almost 4% xp which is a lot by 54).

You can also get from 39 to 40 in a very relaxed way at hag tower in Unrest. Use wolf illusion (to become indifferent to the whole zone) and just nuke two hags, they die in 2 nukes when dispelled or just freshly spawned. Hags are green but give okay xp till 40.

[TripleLegit]

That's actually good advice. thanks everyone

[nostalgiaquest]

Don't get discouraged if you can't get the strat down at first. Embrace the learning as one of the fun parts of the game. And once you figure it out you'll never look back. I had a blast doing guards from about 35 to 50. You'll make fat cash too.

Watch some of techmos' video's on youtube if you're looking for some guidance. My strat varied from his a little bit (taper versus invis), but what he does is tried and true.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkZSPYt5AYEE9Y-_FTW4HZg

[TripleLegit]

Thanks nostalgia! I've actually been kicking butt in oggok when it's not already camped finally got the basic strategy down. Occasionally still have to over nuke when the mobs don't stay even but doesn't happen too too much. Having a blast! Each zone I go to will be a new experience with some deaths to start out with, but I think it's a fun challenge

[Kotopes]

Keep in mind there are 2 static bashers to the left side (Raan and Xak), and 2 roamers near bank area. Also there is one static basher (Wrang?) right by bank, but the banker adds when you pull basher so need to Lull him first. When resisted I usually pulled banker outside and used mez/memblur while killing basher Wrang.