Abashi's Rod of Disempowerment

[Aesop]

drops from Vulak, has a right click effect: Abolish Enchantment (http://wiki.project1999.com/Abolish_Enchantment) which is the equivalent of the 53 Enchanter spell Recant Magic (http://wiki.project1999.com/Recant_Magic). This is as it was on live, but on red it presents balancing issues.

Hear me out on this, Golem Metal Wands (http://wiki.project1999.com/Golem_Metal_Wand) are nerfed, Trakanon's Tooth (http://wiki.project1999.com/Trakanon%27s_Tooth) is nerfed, Ivandyr's Hoop (http://wiki.project1999.com/Ivandyr%27s_Hoop) is nerfed -- in the name of balance for pvp. But in this case, it gives Necromancers and Monks the exact same spell as an Enchanter with the exact same cast time -- except better for a NEC as it can't even fizzle. Any item in the game that casts a spell has a severely nerfed cast time on it. This presents a balancing issue for the server. Every other item which has these kinds of effects have been nerfed with the exception of this one.

Even items like Wand of Conflagration (http://wiki.project1999.com/Wand_of_Conflagration) got the nerf for the sake of balancing as instant click conflag was considered overpowered.

This might not be a big deal on blue, as 3 second recant magics don't offer a huge amount of usefulness in PVE -- but on red dispelling buffs is one of the reasons enchanters are feared. Rapture, tash and dispelling are an enchanters role in pvp, and usually their only one as their nukes don't land and players stack magic resist over all others.

Golem Metal Wands are still farmed daily even in their nerfed state for their massive usefulness in pvp. This item presents a balancing issue for red, and the precedent is to nerf the item to bring it into balance.

A longer cast time would leave the item very powerful still, and bring it more in line with all the rest of the clicky items on the server.

[lurk]

You mad bro? I think it originally was even instacast i think, atleast on live it was. Deal with it. Its a rare BIS item, nerfing it wouldbe dumb

[totmanc]

.... Enchanter Removes 4 buffs abashi removes 3.

[Aesop]

I see, nevermind. Perfectly good FQ ruined. Either way, screw that cast time. I thought it was like 5 or 6.

[Daldaen]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219073&highlight=Abashi

Should be single dispel with 100' range and instant cast. Would you prefer that...? Cause that's what classic is.

[Aesop]

my general point before it was pointed out that I was wrong is that ALL items that are "overpowered" for pvp have been nerfed. ALL of them. Instant pumice, conflag wands (SEE: OP)

[Daldaen]

Sounds like this belongs in the red forum and not the bug forum then.

[Aesop]

no one reads the red forums

[Aesop]

plus item balance, red or not belongs here. Ivandyr's Hoop was nerfed on blue for similar reasons wasn't it?

[Raev]

no one reads the red forums

Because no one plays on the red server.

This reminds me of the melee channeling nerf (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173563) where Haynar nerfed blue as well without a single linked era specific post.

[Daldaen]

Well that is most likely correct. It's correct on live and was correct on Al'Kabor, I'd be very surprised if it's was somehow changed between classic and 2003.

I feel like for something that can be proven to have existed for the past 13 years should be assumed to exist from the start of the game unless other information is brought forth suggesting a change.