Farming Torpor

[Movember]

With a 60 shm/mnk duo (possibly with help from a nec) what would you kill to try to farm Torpor?

[Sallan]

OT cliff golems (they do drop them rarely)

[SoekiWiz]

Juggs, no?

[paulgiamatti]

Juggs if you can get there - that'd be doable as a shammy if you have your Sky ring and a DA idol. Fight your way down to shrooms, DA to the Juggs, FD at a safe spot and /q. Same method for the necro with Harmshield and FD. Monk flops in to join you. Regular Juggs do drop Torpor and other 60 spells.

Although, it should probably be said - you might actually need the spell to realistically solo-heal against Juggs. If you don't have Torpor yet I'd probably stick to cliff golems, or find a cleric and do some guardian wurms.

[Maner]

Juggs if you can get there - that'd be doable as a shammy if you have your Sky ring and a DA idol. Fight your way down to shrooms, DA to the Juggs, FD at a safe spot and /q. Same method for the necro with Harmshield and FD. Monk flops in to join you. Regular Juggs do drop Torpor and other 60 spells.

Although, it should probably be said - you might actually need the spell to realistically solo-heal against Juggs. If you don't have Torpor yet I'd probably stick to cliff golems, or find a cleric and do some guardian wurms.

I didn't think the juggs could drop torpor, just tola and the prot i think.

[paulgiamatti]

They do, but it's like cliff golem level rare. Tola/Prot will drop a 60 spell 100% of the time (not sure if Tolapumj always does actually, he will always drop a spell tho), similar to Emperor Chottal, so your odds are much better - regular juggs drop 51+ spells uncommonly. I've only seen two Torpors from innumerable Juggs/Tola/Prot runs - one from a regular jugg and one from the protector.

[William_Munny15]

Can try guardian wurms as well, a guildy runs Gwurm events quite often and think it's netted 5-6 topors in 3 months or something along those lines, might be like 6-7 copies. Only 3 spawns though so you can't just keep mowing through them for more chances like jugg's though

[Zekayy]

Another way is to have your guild kill a kunark dragon like trak etc or a vp dragon and they can drop torpor. but best bet is guardian wurms ive seen 3 torpors drop there was there for all 3 lost the rolls unforantely

[Zekayy]

Or Join Dial a port and Portwhore yourself out for the 150k spell is another option we've all been there and done that at some point

[EdTuBrutus]

The problem with Torpor is that it's trying to replicate a Live environment where Shamans were initially very rare, with a P99 environment where Shamans were popular from the start. No spell should ever have reached the price of Torpor without intervention and it's getting a bit ridiculous that this continues.

Trying to be Classic has created a situation which is utterly Not Classic.

[Meep]

Or Join Dial a port and Portwhore yourself out for the 150k spell is another option we've all been there and done that at some point

50 days at 3k a day, say thats not achieveable?

[Tupakk]

Or Join Dial a port and Portwhore yourself out for the 150k spell is another option we've all been there and done that at some point

We have had ppl shoot for even higher end items so yeah its possible. 50 days is a bit of a stretch. But anything is possible with DaP and mix in our monthly events and giveaways you could easily farm up enough in a few weeks. That is dedicating yourself strictly to porting though. 8-10k a day is possible.

[SirAlvarex]

I love that DaP exists. It's a nice compromise. PoK and Nexus completely ruined porting classes in classic. DaP means I can still get around quickly but it's at least helping the server economy.

[Lhancelot]

I love that DaP exists. It's a nice compromise. PoK and Nexus completely ruined porting classes in classic. DaP means I can still get around quickly but it's at least helping the server economy.

DaP is by far the best guild to ever operate on this server. Every DaP I ever had dealings with has been communicative and helpful.

I have gotten so many free CRs and ports for lowbie new toons I can't even keep track.

Without this guild operating, I can't imagine how stagnant mobility would be for my melee toons or others that cannot port on their own.

Thanks DaP!

[Shweet]

Surprised no one has mentioned Emp. Is solo-able and drops torpor?

[Tupakk]

DaP is by far the best guild to ever operate on this server. Every DaP I ever had dealings with has been communicative and helpful.

I have gotten so many free CRs and ports for lowbie new toons I can't even keep track.

Without this guild operating, I can't imagine how stagnant mobility would be for my melee toons or others that cannot port on their own.

Thanks DaP!

Thank you, we do are best to make mobility easy and effiecent

with the 3 you have, just recruit a couple or one more and do guardian wurms. There is no better place or strat to farm those hard to find 55+ kunark spells they can drop than the 3 outfront of VP.

You need atleast 2 groups to do this efficiently.

[Shweet]

You need atleast 2 groups to do this efficiently.

Four players works just fine for wurms. Cler/Sham/Monk/X and they will die..

[Tupakk]

Til they get merc'd by a pather.

[Shweet]

Have duo'd golems for 60 spells, solo/duo'd emp for 60 spells, and used four players to farm guardian wurms for hours.

If your players have gear and know how to play. No reason any of the above listed farms can't be done to get torpor.

[Burrito]

LFG Torpor farm

[paulgiamatti]

One group is plenty for gwurms - anything more and you'll have tons of downtime between the three spawns. Nowadays I'm sure they can be triod efficiently, but yeah if you catch a chromodrac at the wrong time it could easily be game over. I say just play it safe and build out a full group - you will want tash and crowd control.

[Caiu]

SHM/MNK/CLR is the safe bet. SHM/MNK/ENCH is the fun one.

[astuce999]

SHM/BARD is the fun one - just takes a while to kill.

SHM/BARD + rog or mnk or ranger is also fun, and can usually kill all three before respawn.


Astuce

[Baler]

The problem with Torpor is that it's trying to replicate a Live environment where Shamans were initially very rare, with a P99 environment where Shamans were popular from the start. No spell should ever have reached the price of Torpor without intervention and it's getting a bit ridiculous that this continues.

Trying to be Classic has created a situation which is utterly Not Classic.
Well put.

[fastboy21]

Well unless you think classic isnt a server pop peak of 1300 (shamans)

I happen to agree with you, but not because of this argument.

The total number of shamans at lvl60 on p99 (not currently logged in) is greater than the number of 60 shamans on live servers in this era. So, there is something to be said about the skewed server population here affecting the demand for torpor. Like all other things on p99 players know how valuable this is for a shaman. The conditions on p99 def make Torpor harder to get your hands on here than on live during the same era.

I just happen to think that its a fair price and its more classic not to tinker with the drop rate than it is to make it more common. There are lots of things that fall into this category on p99, some of them make the game easier than it was on live...some of them make it harder. It is what it is, and I think the devs would do more harm than good if they tried to tune the knobs to make the server "feel" more classic.

[Movember]

Ok so my tl;dr so far is that since I don't have Torpor yet my best bet is cliff golems which I should be able to do without Torp (probably). When I get Torp + monk friend is better geared we can try things like juggs or grab a clr and do wurms.

If it takes 20 days of farming cliff golems I'd still be happier doing that over porting :P

[Red_Messiah]

Funny to me, getting torpor being way more difficult than completing a whole epic quest :o

[Movember]

This might be a dumb question but when duoing with a monk are you healing directly with torpor during fights or using that to canni and spam other heals on the mnk?

I know it has a negative impact on atk speed so it would obviously lower DPS on the monk

[fastboy21]

Ok so my tl;dr so far is that since I don't have Torpor yet my best bet is cliff golems which I should be able to do without Torp (probably). When I get Torp + monk friend is better geared we can try things like juggs or grab a clr and do wurms.

If it takes 20 days of farming cliff golems I'd still be happier doing that over porting :P

If you are a 60 shaman then your best bet is to farm the pp. Try to relax and remember that its about the journey: getting your epic and torpor ARE the game, not some prequel to the real game that will come afterwards. Have fun, make friends, farm cash. You can make a ton of pp solo doing very easy camps for a 60 shaman (even without torpor).

If you really want a torpor NOW the best bet is to join a guild that clears that stuff regularly.

[RDawg816]

This might be a dumb question but when duoing with a monk are you healing directly with torpor during fights or using that to canni and spam other heals on the mnk?

I know it has a negative impact on atk speed so it would obviously lower DPS on the monk
Depends on the fight. I've done both.

[Danth]

You can beat cliff golems without Torpor, but they're resistant enough that every now and then you'll get one that resists slow half a dozen times and leaves you practically out of mana right off the bat. On top of that, their drop rate is miniscule at best. The wife and I have killed hundreds of those things over the years and we've seen a Torpor spell drop only once. I regard cliff golems as something to do when you're bored and can't think of anything better. If you plan to fight these for your spell, it's possible you'll get a drop, but it's more likely you'll burn out and quit out of boredom first.

Danth

[EdTuBrutus]

If you are a 60 shaman then your best bet is to farm the pp. Try to relax and remember that its about the journey: getting your epic and torpor ARE the game, not some prequel to the real game that will come afterwards. Have fun, make friends, farm cash. You can make a ton of pp solo doing very easy camps for a 60 shaman (even without torpor).

If you really want a torpor NOW the best bet is to join a guild that clears that stuff regularly.

You are Brad McQuaid and I claim my GBP5.

For you it might be about the journey. For a huge number of players (and by future developments after EQ, pretty much the vast majority, in fact many fold times the audience EQ achieved) its about enjoying the game with completed characters in raids, events and even PvP.

One of the nuttier aspects of the EQ design was that the best way to keep people playing was to give them repetitive, time consuming grinds in place of properly designed, varied end game content. The idea that you would be best spending 220 hour farming Seafuries or probably much more time trying to get lucky in a /random is as ridiculous today as similar mechanics were back in 1999.

[EdTuBrutus]

I happen to agree with you, but not because of this argument.

The total number of shamans at lvl60 on p99 (not currently logged in) is greater than the number of 60 shamans on live servers in this era. So, there is something to be said about the skewed server population here affecting the demand for torpor. Like all other things on p99 players know how valuable this is for a shaman. The conditions on p99 def make Torpor harder to get your hands on here than on live during the same era.

I just happen to think that its a fair price and its more classic not to tinker with the drop rate than it is to make it more common. There are lots of things that fall into this category on p99, some of them make the game easier than it was on live...some of them make it harder. It is what it is, and I think the devs would do more harm than good if they tried to tune the knobs to make the server "feel" more classic.

This is at the heart of the question as to "what is Classic?". Is classic trying to reproduve the class distribution of 1999 or about trying to offer a realistic representation of what was like to play a class in 1999 or whether it should just be about creating the look and feel of the game in 1999.

My personal goal is the third of these, which P99 delivers. It looks like EQ 1999 and feels like EQ 1999. Delivering on that is enough for me, I don't need it to have the absolute skull numbing boredom of farming for hundreds of hours.

[fastboy21]

This is at the heart of the question as to "what is Classic?". Is classic trying to reproduve the class distribution of 1999 or about trying to offer a realistic representation of what was like to play a class in 1999 or whether it should just be about creating the look and feel of the game in 1999.

My personal goal is the third of these, which P99 delivers. It looks like EQ 1999 and feels like EQ 1999. Delivering on that is enough for me, I don't need it to have the absolute skull numbing boredom of farming for hundreds of hours.

Its in the eye of the beholder. There isn't much to do in a static EQ server, especially one that is helplessly behind the curve. Most of the players here have played this content ad nausiam for years on multiple fully "finished" characters. For those of us who keep playing past that point it isn't skull numbing boredom to log in and play just for the fun of playing: Meeting people, making a few k, helping someone out with a quest, random buffing, farming a rare item, etc.

Not everyone enjoys the game the same way. My sense is that as p99 gets older and approaches perma-static status the incentive to chase pixels for many of us dwindles, but we keep playing because the game is still fun for other reasons. There are tons of "casual" players on p99 that have amassed huge sums of plat just by playing here for years. One of the differences between live and p99 is that the extended nature of the servers allows even casuals who have been playing long enough to be loaded with items and cash.

In any case, my whole suggestion to the OP was that if you are the driven to get all the goodies the fastest way is to just join a guild. You'll be decked out in no time.