Question about acquiring gear

[HomieGSB]

Hey everyone, newbie here. Well, relative newbie. I've got a 14 Druid and now a 10 Paladin, but there's something that's been bothering me: gear.

I've seen around here that gear maybe doesn't matter so much, but really, I can't be using cloth armor and a Tarnished Two Handed Sword forever now, can I?(And really, I'm a paladin, I'd at least like to look the part.) Merchants don't seem to be much help, selling breastplates for 766 plat, and blacksmithing is apparently a huge gold sink that I just can't afford as a newbie. I've read that selling my bone chips and picking up some banded armor might work, but even ignoring the logistics of getting to East Commonlands, (apparently a trading hub?) using all my money to just buy some gear doesn't seem like great fun, even though I'll do it if offered no other options. How are you supposed to gear yourself in this game‽

Ah well, this has turned out to be a huge rant, but I just wanted to go through my thought process. Any advice on how to gear up for a newbie paladin would be greatly appreciated, even if it's "go buy some armor." ;)

[Jimjam]

Where in Norrath are your characters based?

[Kaosfury]

Totaly understand.

The game is based around , adventure.....kill the mob that drops the item you want. Or kill other stuff to earn thr oney to buy the item you want.

Example, im level 22, im killing low level dervs in desert of ro. Some times the dervs have bronze weapons you can sell for a few plat.....spend a few hours and you can get 50-100p then buy a better sword....then go back and kill more dervs until you got another 100p and get another upgrade in gear.

[HomieGSB]

Where in Norrath are your characters based?

I'm in Qeynos right now, but might attempt to hoof it over to Freeport to hand in this Fleshy Orb. It says the quest hands out Fine Steel weapons, which is fantastic, now I just have to cross my fingers and hope I get a two handed sword!

[HomieGSB]

Totaly understand.

The game is based around , adventure.....kill the mob that drops the item you want. Or kill other stuff to earn thr oney to buy the item you want.

Example, im level 22, im killing low level dervs in desert of ro. Some times the dervs have bronze weapons you can sell for a few plat.....spend a few hours and you can get 50-100p then buy a better sword....then go back and kill more dervs until you got another 100p and get another upgrade in gear.

While that particular example doesn't sound exactly enthralling, it sounds like more enemies later on drop items of interest, which is promising!

[fan D]

question,

what kind of paladin are you? I have a soft spot for fellow Deepwater Knights of Prexus

[HomieGSB]

question,

what kind of paladin are you? I have a soft spot for fellow Deepwater Knights of Prexus

Ah, nope, I'm just a human if that's what you're asking.

[Nekkojakk]

Go to the wiki and select your class. Should have some examples of gear that you can aspire to down at the bottom.

Don't get hung up on gear. Aside from having a magical weapon for melee you can honestly get to a decently high level in just rags.

[HomieGSB]

Go to the wiki and select your class. Should have some examples of gear that you can aspire to down at the bottom.

Don't get hung up on gear. Aside from having a magical weapon for melee you can honestly get to a decently high level in just rags.

Yup, I've checked the wiki, but the recommended gear doesn't help me much, just a lot of unfamiliar names and they all drop in high level zones. Maybe I really do need to move past the need for gear, but I'd just like to have something better, y'know? When's the last time you saw a paladin wearing cloth? :)

[darkreap]

Get some HP/AC rings as soon as possible. If plat ones are too expensive get some gold ones and it should save you quite a bit of plat. Also, a full suit of banded usually runs about 90 plat, however, if you don't want to make the run to EC it costs about that much to get your skill to the level you need it to be, maybe a little more. As for weapons, there wont be many options until you save some plat and can buy a decent one. As for quested ones, http://wiki.project1999.com/Bonethunder_Staff_Quest is a decent quest if you plan to focus on undead and starts in the qeynos area. http://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_skyfire can be picked up for about 50-100 plat will last you until it starts to proc. If you are after a 2h weapon, it would probably be best to get a http://wiki.project1999.com/Baton_of_Faith as you can pick it up very cheap and has a decent ratio.

[HomieGSB]

Get some HP/AC rings as soon as possible. If plat ones are too expensive get some gold ones and it should save you quite a bit of plat. Also, a full suit of banded usually runs about 90 plat, however, if you don't want to make the run to EC it costs about that much to get your skill to the level you need it to be, maybe a little more. As for weapons, there wont be many options until you save some plat and can buy a decent one. As for quested ones, http://wiki.project1999.com/Bonethunder_Staff_Quest is a decent quest if you plan to focus on undead and starts in the qeynos area. http://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_skyfire can be picked up for about 50-100 plat will last you until it starts to proc. If you are after a 2h weapon, it would probably be best to get a http://wiki.project1999.com/Baton_of_Faith as you can pick it up very cheap and has a decent ratio.

Hey man, thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, I don't have the money for any of those things that you mentioned, so it seems like I will be shelling out the money to train up my blacksmithing and get that banded armor after all.

[utenan]

I feel the same about looting gear vs buying it. In classic eq there just aren't many drops until you start to get into your 20's and above. On live and when p1999 opened people were wearing banded armor and using whatever weapon they could find into their 20's and beyond - that's kind of how the game was meant to be played. Of course p1999 has been around for 7 years and there is so much gear floating around that it almost seems abnormal to loot your own gear.

On that note here's a thread I made where I recently-ish leveled my ranger in this exact fashion, only using what I looted and not buying anything from other players ( seems pretty relevant! ) http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254758 Hopefully that gives you some kind of idea as to what looting your own gear looks like. Looking through those pics again I see I didn't start shedding my vendor bought Leather armor until my mid - upper 20's : )

I had fun knowing pretty well all the available loot in this game and trying to go to those areas and hunt it down - unfortunately for you I don't really know of an easy way for you to find usable items except to use the wiki like others have said.
As far as weapons go the first 2 hander that you can try to look for would be the Shiny Brass Halberd that drops in Highpass Hold - you can head there in your mid to upper teens.

[Dreenk317]

There is a guide called "the ultimate leveling while making money guide". It has farmable camps for all level ranges. At your level I would try to get to the sisters camp in Lfay and kill them for there bronze weaps, vendor for 5-10p each, 4 spawns, six minute timer, merchant in zone. Or go to befallen in west commons and farm bone chips to sell in east commons for 10p a stack.

[Aandolaf]

You can kill rabid wolves/bears in Qeynos Hills and give their pelts to some one at the cleric guild in Qeynos, the spell you receive for this sells for a few plat. Once you figure out where the rabid animals are, you can get a decent amount of money in a pretty short time.

You can then upgrade from a tarnished sword to a merchant bought one, Like "cladmore". You will also see armor and weapons on merchants that players have sold, like bronze, which can be bought back for like 10-20pp each, and stuff like that. This is one way to start getting out of the cloth/tarnished wep situation.

Bandits in West Karana have a similar quest where you turn the sashes you loot off of them to a guy in Qeynos, its doable around your level.

Can look these up on the wiki for exact details.

[HomieGSB]

I feel the same about looting gear vs buying it. In classic eq there just aren't many drops until you start to get into your 20's and above. On live and when p1999 opened people were wearing banded armor and using whatever weapon they could find into their 20's and beyond - that's kind of how the game was meant to be played. Of course p1999 has been around for 7 years and there is so much gear floating around that it almost seems abnormal to loot your own gear.

On that note here's a thread I made where I recently-ish leveled my ranger in this exact fashion, only using what I looted and not buying anything from other players ( seems pretty relevant! ) http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254758 Hopefully that gives you some kind of idea as to what looting your own gear looks like. Looking through those pics again I see I didn't start shedding my vendor bought Leather armor until my mid - upper 20's : )

I had fun knowing pretty well all the available loot in this game and trying to go to those areas and hunt it down - unfortunately for you I don't really know of an easy way for you to find usable items except to use the wiki like others have said.
As far as weapons go the first 2 hander that you can try to look for would be the Shiny Brass Halberd that drops in Highpass Hold - you can head there in your mid to upper teens.

Hey, thanks for the info! That thread of yours is actually really interesting, and makes me wish I had a dedicated adventure partner. Sure would make things easier! I'm certainly more motivated after reading that though. Maybe inspired by your use of vendored rawhide into such high levels, haha. I guess it's time for me to get out there and find something...maybe that halberd? :D

[HomieGSB]

You can kill rabid wolves/bears in Qeynos Hills and give their pelts to some one at the cleric guild in Qeynos, the spell you receive for this sells for a few plat. Once you figure out where the rabid animals are, you can get a decent amount of money in a pretty short time.

You can then upgrade from a tarnished sword to a merchant bought one, Like "cladmore". You will also see armor and weapons on merchants that players have sold, like bronze, which can be bought back for like 10-20pp each, and stuff like that. This is one way to start getting out of the cloth/tarnished wep situation.

Bandits in West Karana have a similar quest where you turn the sashes you loot off of them to a guy in Qeynos, its doable around your level.

Can look these up on the wiki for exact details.

Yeah, I just discovered how lucrative those rabid wolves and bears can be. Think that's how I'm gonna fund my banded armor!

[Jimjam]

Kill the dwarf by the dock in qeynos. Get a passing druid to give you a ride to butcherblock and back.

Hand in the dwarf's head to receive a blood forge hammer (13/51 +10mr)

[tiadashi]

Hey everyone, newbie here. Well, relative newbie. I've got a 14 Druid and now a 10 Paladin, but there's something that's been bothering me: gear.

I've seen around here that gear maybe doesn't matter so much, but really, I can't be using cloth armor and a Tarnished Two Handed Sword forever now, can I?(And really, I'm a paladin, I'd at least like to look the part.) Merchants don't seem to be much help, selling breastplates for 766 plat, and blacksmithing is apparently a huge gold sink that I just can't afford as a newbie. I've read that selling my bone chips and picking up some banded armor might work, but even ignoring the logistics of getting to East Commonlands, (apparently a trading hub?) using all my money to just buy some gear doesn't seem like great fun, even though I'll do it if offered no other options. How are you supposed to gear yourself in this game‽

Ah well, this has turned out to be a huge rant, but I just wanted to go through my thought process. Any advice on how to gear up for a newbie paladin would be greatly appreciated, even if it's "go buy some armor." ;)

If your in Qeynos area your druid and maybe your pally with a partner should be able to handle the bandits in west karana - they drop sashes you can turn in at Q for bronze weapons some small amount of coin and good xp

[eqravenprince]

Well the first step in changing your look is making some patchwork armor: http://wiki.project1999.com/Patchwork_Armor. Not sure what race you are, but you need ruined pelts. Wolfs for small, Cats for medium, and Bears for large patchwork armor. It is super simple to make.

Being from Qeynos area, you should be able to land a few items from Blackburrow in a group or a high level kills named and gives it to you:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Rusty_Spiked_Shoulderpads
http://wiki.project1999.com/Spiked_Collar
2 x http://wiki.project1999.com/Onyx_Earring

Save your high quality bear pelts if you are working on your tailoring. You can make hand made backpacks with them as your skill improves.

[gprater]

Yeah, I just discovered how lucrative those rabid wolves and bears can be. Think that's how I'm gonna fund my banded armor!

rabid animals now in west karana too.

[LenkoCambria]

There's not much more I can add to this, you've been given some decent advice by some. The only thing I can say is that I admire the way you're approaching the game! Reminds me of back on live...when as a barbarian warrior I spent time killing the barbarians in West Karana and made myself KOS to my home time. Blind to everything...had a blast.

If you ever need anything in-game, send a tell to Tempeh. Even if it's something as simple as a port or a SoW. I'll pop over to Qeynos area sometime soon and try to scope you out!

[HomieGSB]

There's not much more I can add to this, you've been given some decent advice by some. The only thing I can say is that I admire the way you're approaching the game! Reminds me of back on live...when as a barbarian warrior I spent time killing the barbarians in West Karana and made myself KOS to my home time. Blind to everything...had a blast.

If you ever need anything in-game, send a tell to Tempeh. Even if it's something as simple as a port or a SoW. I'll pop over to Qeynos area sometime soon and try to scope you out!

Thanks man, will do. That must have been a real shock getting back to Halas...

[Truheart]

What is your paladin's character name? I think I may have something you can use!

[Bubbles]

If your in Qeynos area your druid and maybe your pally with a partner should be able to handle the bandits in west karana - they drop sashes you can turn in at Q for bronze weapons some small amount of coin and good xp

c'mon we all know no one groups with paladin. :)

[Ikon]

One of the unfortunate and fortunate things about P1999 is that its more efficient to farm a couple of items and buy loot that should be way out of your ability to acquire (Seb, HS, etc etc).

So the question becomes what things can you farm to get that loot...

Some things that may be doable in a couple of levels:

Shralok Packs - http://wiki.project1999.com/Recfek_Shralok
Glowing Black Stone - http://wiki.project1999.com/Pyzjn
Goblin Gazughi Ring - http://wiki.project1999.com/A_Sarnak_courier

Lots of other low level mobs to camp...

My personal choice is Pyzjn, easy to spawn, lots of mobs nearby to level up on in the day time. Have managed to get 3 orbs so far so 6k in pp which is pretty okay for me. Enough to gear me out with basic gear. I updated the wiki with her spawn info so its current if you want to try it.

[NenshouStar]

hmm, that bonethunder staff looks interest haha.
honestly though. to the OP.
level 10 is hardly anywhere really.. qeynos is a good starting area too I always thought. since blackburrow is right there. there are a fair number of newbie quests around to do.
just save pp. and yes. collect bonechips / spider silks, anything that you can to make the coin. a good starting wep is really all you should aspire to.
you'll be able to deck yourself out in chainmail/bronze and such relatively quickly just
by looting mobs as you level. lol. I wouldn't stop the exp train for gear just yet.

[Cromcat]

As I recall it's usually easier to camp and make platinum to buy your gear instead of camping the specific item(s) you want. But the wiki search is really good at letting you identify gear by class/slot (and sorting on a particular stat) and then you can look at each potential item and see what's cheaper // more cost effective (for example, you'll discover that some items are priced very high relative to other items that have almost as good stats).

[kebas239]

Hey everyone, newbie here. Well, relative newbie. I've got a 14 Druid and now a 10 Paladin, but there's something that's been bothering me: gear.

I've seen around here that gear maybe doesn't matter so much, but really, I can't be using cloth armor and a Tarnished Two Handed Sword forever now, can I?(And really, I'm a paladin, I'd at least like to look the part.) Merchants don't seem to be much help, selling breastplates for 766 plat, and blacksmithing is apparently a huge gold sink that I just can't afford as a newbie. I've read that selling my bone chips and picking up some banded armor might work, but even ignoring the logistics of getting to East Commonlands, (apparently a trading hub?) using all my money to just buy some gear doesn't seem like great fun, even though I'll do it if offered no other options. How are you supposed to gear yourself in this game‽

Ah well, this has turned out to be a huge rant, but I just wanted to go through my thought process. Any advice on how to gear up for a newbie paladin would be greatly appreciated, even if it's "go buy some armor." ;)

You need to save whatever coin you can and prioritize how it's spent. I would get your important spells over gear. At low levels, these include your heals, HP/AC buffs, lulls and possibly undead spells if you will be fighting it. The other spells are secondary and can be purchased once you get a steady footing on your equipment.

For gear, you really do need to learn how to use the East Commonlands. The alternatives are farming equipment from monsters or creating it yourself using tradeskills which others have pointed out. Either way you will eventually need to trade with players whether you're trying to get gear from them or make a profit selling items. You may as well get your feet wet now.

I'd recommend the set of banded mail as a first step in gearing your paladin. A whole set is under 50pp which may sound like a lot now, but it really isn't that bad considering that most monsters will soon be dropping around 1pp per kill. Just save your cash!

You will also need weapons and a shield. There are cheap items which will occasionally sell in the tunnel that are far superior to your tarnished 2 handed sword so keep your eyes open.

You may also find people that are generous enough to give items away to new or low level players for free. This most commonly happens in the East Commonlands, so keep a lookout for that.

Hope this helps!

[Dimmestsalmon]

If your still in qeynos venture into the sewers and you can kill the injured eat for a +5 hp earring and the undead knight for a +5 ring if you get 2 of each that is an additional 20 hp may not sound like much but for a super easy camp and a little bit of your time it is a free hp increase

[Psykes]

go to RiverVale, to the wall...there is usually someone killing guards and they normally leave the wooden shields which sell to vendor for 1p4g each...thats 7p per round...in an hour you can have about 50p. Easy money, and then buy bronze armor in West Commonlands....this is your best and only route for most gear unless you wait for drops in HighHoldKeep/Unrest etc for the same pieces of bronze gear you will be buying

[Trexy]

go to RiverVale, to the wall...there is usually someone killing guards and they normally leave the wooden shields which sell to vendor for 1p4g each...thats 7p per round...in an hour you can have about 50p. Easy money, and then buy bronze armor in West Commonlands....this is your best and only route for most gear unless you wait for drops in HighHoldKeep/Unrest etc for the same pieces of bronze gear you will be buying

To just expand on this idea a little bit- I wouldn't bother running all the way out there just to find it uncamped. Instead just create a halfling alt, run him/her over to the camping spot and plop them there. This way, anytime you feel like taking a break from leveling, you can just log on to your alt and see if it's being camped at the time. A level 1 halfling can sell wooden shields just as well as a level 10 paladin. Once you've amassed a large amount of pp, THEN you can go to all the trouble of traversing the continent and just organize a hand off.

In fact, if you want to take this concept one level further, RiverVale wall isn't the only place guards are being camped. You can recruit a small roster of low level alts parked in popular guard killing spots, and any time you're bored you can just check each location and see if they're being camped at the time. Between 3-4 parked loot moocher alts, you have a lot higher chance of being able to find somewhere being camped at any time of the day.

Two of my favorite places are troll guards just inside the entrance to Grobb, and high elf guards in Felwithe. Felwithe isn't camped all that often, but it's generally by Necromancers who have low strength and nowhere particularly close they can sell, meaning there is a higher chance they'll let you loot fine steel weapons and not just some lousy shield. Especially when fine steel 2 handed swords drops. Those suckers sell for around 18pp! Those are just two of my favorites, but anywhere you see guards being killed, it will never hurt to park someone there as long as you have empty character slots remaining.

Finally, remember when creating your alt to pick a class and distribute stats to maximize your charisma and strength to make for optimal farming :D

[Sebastionleo]

To just expand on this idea a little bit- I wouldn't bother running all the way out there just to find it uncamped. Instead just create a halfling alt, run him/her over to the camping spot and plop them there. This way, anytime you feel like taking a break from leveling, you can just log on to your alt and see if it's being camped at the time. A level 1 halfling can sell wooden shields just as well as a level 10 paladin. Once you've amassed a large amount of pp, THEN you can go to all the trouble of traversing the continent and just organize a hand off.

In fact, if you want to take this concept one level further, RiverVale wall isn't the only place guards are being camped. You can recruit a small roster of low level alts parked in popular guard killing spots, and any time you're bored you can just check each location and see if they're being camped at the time. Between 3-4 parked loot moocher alts, you have a lot higher chance of being able to find somewhere being camped at any time of the day.

Two of my favorite places are troll guards just inside the entrance to Grobb, and high elf guards in Felwithe. Felwithe isn't camped all that often, but it's generally by Necromancers who have low strength and nowhere particularly close they can sell, meaning there is a higher chance they'll let you loot fine steel weapons and not just some lousy shield. Especially when fine steel 2 handed swords drops. Those suckers sell for around 18pp! Those are just two of my favorites, but anywhere you see guards being killed, it will never hurt to park someone there as long as you have empty character slots remaining.

Finally, remember when creating your alt to pick a class and distribute stats to maximize your charisma and strength to make for optimal farming :D

When I did Felwithe guards I found a dwarf rogue running around who I had pick up everything and go sell it for me, I gave him like 25% of the money, which was quite a lot over time. He was like level 30s so I let him join the group and mooch a little exp too.

[Trexy]

A cool thing about Felwithe guards is between spawns you can pop outside and just over the newbie hill and kill any pixie tricksters you see. The last I played pixie dust sold to people for 4pp too.