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Rygar
11-28-2016, 02:50 PM
I was digging around for additional drop info for the Stonemelder's Band that you added in (many thanks for that!), and then I stumbled across this gem... a missing mob from the Hole!

Retseth Tretse:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001018054231/http://www.gameznet.com/eq/notsocommon/hole/retsethtretse.html

I KNEW I wasn't crazy! My zone guide mentioned my attempt in live to kill a named steel golem in the Hole pre-revamp, but couldn't find any info prior to this.

I searched for some drop info, but came across something from another EQ Emu (not sure if you would take this as accurate:
http://chroniclesofnorrath.com/alla/item.php?id=1653

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Classes: Monk
Races: All races
Slot: CHEST
Item Type: Armor
Size: MEDIUM
Weight: 0.5
AC: 5
+10 STR, +10 SV Magic, +30 HP
Slot 1: Type 7
Value: 260 0 0 0

I couldn't locate this item in the wayback machine, but I'm not as skilled as you boys at that, any help would be appreciated. That EQ Emu site also lists his HP / hit / resists etc. I can confirm via past experience in live, he does spawn on the throne in the Golem Tower area of the Hole.

If the item would be added in, the 33% drop rate seems laughable for a rare spawn. I seriously question if this guy was ever killed on EQ live. The pathing on live was HORRIBLE pre-revamp, my guild came en masse to kill this creature and we wiped (after a few tags, the golems ran around the entire building and had 20 mobs to deal with).

If you do add in this item, would be fun to have a Monk item drop in the Hole that has some utility! (+MR is nice alternative to redoing Robe of the Whistling Fists). I did some searches for images but no idea what it looks like. Blue leather would be sick if I had a vote :)

I can continue the search, but if any of you seasoned data miners can assist I would appreciate it! (Looking at you Ele)

Rygar
11-29-2016, 11:56 AM
I was doing some thinking and additional research, my thought is the Emu site has info on drops and HP etc because this guy survived the revamp, found an entry on EQ Magelo showing his location and entry date wasn't long ago:
https://eq.magelo.com/npc/446209

There is also a post here from 2002 which was shortly after revamp (and pre-PoP) mentioning this mob:
http://fernworks.net/~dyeomans/DownLoads/pages/eq.crgaming.com/spells/spell.asp%3FId=2093

If I had to guess, this guy was placed pre-revamp but no one basically knew of him so he was moved into the Luclin era revamp, so hoping his drop info stays the same. Would explain why the respawn timers and such were matching the revamp on the Emu sites. However, I question his resists listed on this site that shows his stats, doesn't seem in line with the classic golems (thinking they dumbed him down in revamp along with the other mobs). If you add in, would think a 'boss mob' golem would have equal or greater resists than current Rock Golems:
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=39143

So if you can find it in your heart to add this mob + drop info, that would rock! Hoping for 100% drop rate on his tunic tho, the Hole needs more reasons for people to group there! Especially Golem Tower.

Rygar
12-06-2016, 09:58 AM
Just a friendly bump for consideration. If any users can data mine his drops better than me, help would be appreciated, I have hit a wall.

Whiteberry
12-08-2016, 03:34 PM
I found this on my database. May or maynot be accurate.


39143 - Retseth_Tretse

Race: Golem
Class: Warrior
Level: 53
Body Type: Construct
Vitals
AC: 454 HP: 11750 Mana: 0
Run: 1.75 Acy: 0
ATK: 0 See Invis: Yes See ITU: Yes
See Hide: No See Imp Hide: No Scalerate: 100
Stats
STR: 218 STA: 218 DEX: 218
AGI: 218 INT: 218 WIS: 218
CHA: 218
Resists
MR: 21 (10.5%) CR: 21 (10.5%) FR: 21 (10.5%)
PR: 21 (10.5%) DR: 21 (10.5%) Physical: 13
Combat
MinDmg: 77 MaxDmg: 213 Attack Count: -1
Loottable ID: 13504 HP Regen: 8 MP Regen: 0
Aggro: 55 Atk Speed: -16% Atk Delay: 30%
Assist: 0 Spell Scale: 100% NPC Spells ID: 0
Slow Mit: 0 (0%) Heal Scale: 100% NPC Aggro: 0
Special Abilities: None


Item ID Item Name Equipped? Charges MinLevel MaxLevel Multiplier Chance
1653 Empyran Jerkin No 1 0 127 1 33%


Spawnpoint ID: 58711 spawn status
x: -720.000000 y: -260.000000 z: 0.000000
heading: 0.000000 respawn: 640 variance: 64
pathgrid: 0 condition: 0 cond_value: 1
version: 0 enabled: 1 animation: Standing
zone: hole

Rygar
12-09-2016, 02:56 PM
I found this on my database. May or maynot be accurate.


Thank you sir! When you say 'your database', not sure what that means? Was this some kind of ShowEQ search from back in the day? I'm not knowledgeable enough to interpret this data, can't tell if it is before or after revamp.

Whiteberry
12-14-2016, 12:59 AM
Thank you sir! When you say 'your database', not sure what that means? Was this some kind of ShowEQ search from back in the day? I'm not knowledgeable enough to interpret this data, can't tell if it is before or after revamp.

I run a classic sandbox for my guild. So it's from my database that's over 90% Classic.

Rygar
06-02-2017, 03:39 PM
Kind bump to still consider this mob, of the firm belief it is classic based off the evidence posted! Specifically the EQLizer / Casters Realm website on wayback machine.

Naethyn
07-02-2017, 02:43 AM
edit: nevermind! I mistook this for a massive construct.

planarity
07-02-2017, 11:51 PM
I run a classic sandbox for my guild. So it's from my database that's over 90% Classic.

Yeah OK well the the question is where did you get your database from?

Caiu
07-03-2017, 09:23 AM
https://github.com/jjrh/P99-Mapper---logging-based-tools./blob/master/maps/hole_2.txt

Seems he spawned five years ago have you tried clearing ph?

Doctor Jeff
07-03-2017, 09:36 AM
Please ignore Caiu's troll post.

Rygar
07-03-2017, 03:07 PM
I have cleared placeholder before on and off with no luck (although it's been a while), also have checked during various earthquakes etc.

Possible ultra rare with RNG, but seeing how hard it was to find classic evidence on him my thoughts are he isn't in, perhaps dev can verify.

That link caiu posted has mobs out of era (echo of nortlav, urenwae the cold, etc), so don't believe they are from p99

Caiu
07-03-2017, 03:35 PM
Its a ShowEQ sweep of live from 2003. That and the EQlizer snapshot should prove his existence on live stretching back to 2001. An era this server is in.