Why are there no livestock in Everquest?

[Potus]

Classic EQ had no horses, cows, sheep, pigs, or chickens. This is despite there being farms and wagons littering the countryside, gypsy camps with caravans that were pulled by something or someone, and a mysterious cow pie left in Freeport.

[Lhancelot]

Classic EQ had no horses, cows, sheep, pigs, or chickens. This is despite there being farms and wagons littering the countryside, gypsy camps with caravans that were pulled by something or someone, and a mysterious cow pie left in Freeport.

Same reason why there are elves, orcs, and gobins running around. It's a fantasy world, bro. It doesn't need chickens, cows, and other shit.

[Potus]

Same reason why there are elves, orcs, and gobins running around. It's a fantasy world, bro. It doesn't need chickens, cows, and other shit.

Who pulled the wagons?? :confused:

[Brontus]

Classic EQ had no horses, cows, sheep, pigs, or chickens. This is despite there being farms and wagons littering the countryside, gypsy camps with caravans that were pulled by something or someone, and a mysterious cow pie left in Freeport.

I've often wondered this myself. It seems like a big oversight in retrospect. EQ had horse models that they could have easily used to make the stables and farms more believable.

At the time EQ came out the level of polish that we see in MMOs today with things like critters and farm animals was not a reality or even considered. Another thing is they didn't have the time or the budget to implement that kind of polish either.

[Jimjam]

I think as adventurers we are blind to non-adventure related stuff, so we don't see the peasants milling around the market places, we don't see the oxen pulling ploughs and so on.

[fugazi]

We, the players, are the lifestock.

[myriverse]

Blame PeTA!

[elwing]

Blame PeTA!

PeTA? where are the nude models?

[Tupakk]

Sounds like a new idea for EQ Mystery. @kraddok @utenan

[Ravager]

Who pulled the wagons?? :confused:
Centaurs. They're not as proud as they'd like you to believe.

[Xaanka]

Classic EQ had no horses, cows, sheep, pigs, or chickens. This is despite there being farms and wagons littering the countryside, gypsy camps with caravans that were pulled by something or someone, and a mysterious cow pie left in Freeport.

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retarded?

[maskedmelon]

Classic EQ had no horses, cows, sheep, pigs, or chickens. This is despite there being farms and wagons littering the countryside, gypsy camps with caravans that were pulled by something or someone, and a mysterious cow pie left in Freeport.

pretty sure that is horse poo in freeport. why would a cow be in the metropolis?

[Sirban]

drugs

[Zaela]

They wanted players to subconsciously notice, and come up with their own form of farming to fill the void...

[Detoxx]

Blame PeTA!

https://youtu.be/IoUBmZJQV8Q

[Izmael]

You kids think back in 1999 we had spare GPU cycles to render that shit?

We all were having orgasms every time we broke the 10 FPS barrier staring at a wall already.

[Tupakk]

https://youtu.be/IoUBmZJQV8Q

You feeling ok? You running a fever ? Cause you engaging in anything forum outside of the raid chat is just weird.

[utenan]

I feel like they were to busy putting interesting things in the world rather than worrying about lvl 1 chickens in certain areas : p

http://i.imgur.com/FWTo35J.jpg

[Sorn]

lvl 1 chickens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LF5bN6cWJQ

ES EL POLLO DIABLO!!

[bktroost]

Beholders function as cattle. They also poop in a way that leave piles resembling cowpies.

[skarlorn]

Well, you don't eat beef, chicken, or pork in this game do you? No, you eat bear, alligator, wolf, and high elf.

Guards are livestock.

[tobolamr]

Skarlorn ftw!

[Lhancelot]

Well, you don't eat beef, chicken, or pork in this game do you? No, you eat bear, alligator, wolf, and high elf.

Guards are livestock.

Only fat cats eat stuff like that. ^

Me? I eat muffins and drink milk. That's how I keep my rotund figure, too.

[fadetree]

They were already worried about bandwidth. Why waste it on non-pve stuff when there were times they could barely handle the player load?

[Ivory]

What do you think giant rats and snakes and bats are?

In fact, new people to the world are put to work by the cities farming these creatures and harvesting their resources to sell to merchants for a couple copper.

[Trungep99]

Well ogres and trolls eat live stock dwarves . That's about all they are good for

[86753o9]

Who pulled the wagons?? :confused: The Same thing that goes around lighting and replacing all the torches in dungeons.

[Potus]

The Same thing that goes around lighting and replacing all the torches in dungeons.

I presume the denizens of said dungeons.

best quote I heard is, since there are no horses in everquest does that mean someone dropped trow and took a shit in the middle of the road in WFP?

I think it's a member of the Knights of Truth taunting the militia.

[Jimjam]

best quote I heard is, since there are no horses in everquest does that mean someone dropped trow and took a shit in the middle of the road in WFP?

It was a drunk undergrad student from the Academy of Unseen Sciences 'Submitting their faeces'.

Kids, eh?

[myriverse]

best quote I heard is, since there are no horses in everquest does that mean someone dropped trow and took a shit in the middle of the road in WFP?
Not to spotlight the elephant in the room but... Boomba.;)

[pathius41]

Only fat cats eat stuff like that. ^

Me? I eat muffins and drink milk. That's how I keep my rotund figure, too.

but where did the milk come from?!

[Izmael]

You don't really wanna know.

[Sorn]

but where did the milk come from?!

Milk is usually locally sourced. For example...

Ak'anon - from pumas
Kelethin - from wolves
Kaladim - from giant bats
Freeport - from cats and bears
etc

[this user was banned]

OP secretly wants to fuck digital sheep

[maskedmelon]

but where did the milk come from?!

Ordinarily milk comes from mammaries. Halas is renown throughout Norath for its milk exports thanks to special adaptations Barbarians have undergone as a result of their frigid environment. Normally, females only lactate following pregnancy and while reading young. The barbarian women are different though. You see, the north is so cold that absent regular motion, fluids freeze within seconds! This could be disastrous for milk ducts which could rupture under pressure from frozen milk :c Barbarian women have developed "leaky flow regulators" that ensure the milk is in content motion and thereby decreasing the likelihood of a frozen duct and the resulting inability to feed their future children.

Of course modern wools and downs have largely eliminated this problem, but they've not removed the Barabarians' unique adaptation. This is why Barbarian women look so well endowed and also is why they so tightly bind that endowment. They are perpetually engorged and the binding is the only way to halt the flow. Of course they will continue to produce milk and so must expel it regularly and rather than waste it have established a profitable business by promoting the nutritious value of milk for all.

The other source of milk in Norrath is somewhat less wholesome. It was the year 3644 when Bizzlebun Gnoglefont a Tinkerer of Dark Reflection, first identified an alternative source of milk using a high-walled olive press, a set of rudimentary alchemy vials and a bit of Minotaur elbow grease.

Bizzlebun had been working tirelessly on his thesis Uses for the Useless: Applications for the Lesser Races of Norrath and had hit a wall. Within his laboratory and even without, had suffered the spite and ineffective reprisal of his ungrateful subjects for years, even sacrificing much of his hearing to their insolent cries, but in the end he had prevailed. He had brought purpose to their otherwise meaningless lives whether or not they understood or appareciated his efforts. His great work spare none. All shit races were afforded at a minimu 3 uses that Bizzlebun had identified himself. Some were perhaps more praiseworthy than others and some easier to exact than others, but all were given purpose in one form or s other... All, except one.

It had been a source of great frustration for Bizzlebun throughout the years. Setback after setback it seemed one race was beyond all doubts, utterly useless. Bizzlebun refused to acknowledge that there could really be a thing with no use and so he returned periodically to study the nature and attempt to formulate uses for this particular races as his research on others advanced with admirable consistency.

One da Natter a particularly grueling research session, Bizzlebun snapped. His head was pounding from the ungrateful cries of a family of these creatures, each stubbornly refusing to yield to the noble purpose he had identified for them. Bizzlebun was tired. He was exhausted. He sighed as the last of the creatures slandered his name, his good works and even his mother. And that's when it happened. He did t care anymore. He was through with these things. They really were useless! Bizzlebun stalked toward the creature, it's mean face towering far overhead as he approached. He would destroy it!

He reached up with his little skull-tipped rod and poked the thing in the chest, causing it to stumble. It's legs were caught by the low wall of an old high-walled olive press and it came crashing down into the center. Bizzlebun's face twisted in frustration as he kicked a lever next to the press releasing the stone from above. It came crashing down, pinching off the things legs and splattering Bizzlebun in the process.

Bizzlebun was furious. Not only had the thing refuse purpose, it had caused him to make a mess of his laboratory and and sullied his fine clothes. Blood would not be easily cleansed from his white silk robes. He wiped his face and was about to shake the blood from his fat little fingers when he realized that there was something odd about it. He glanced to the press, back to his hand and sniffed the air. He rubbed the substance pale runny fluid together between his fingers and gave them a lick. A wry smile spread across his haggard little face. MILK! He had done it! When subjected to sudden pressure of extraordinary magnitude, milk could be extracted from these almost useless creatures. Bizzlebun's life ambition was finally realized: high elves had a use after all.

[Nekkojakk]

Same reason there are non of the typical harmless varmint critter that you see cluttering up modern MMOs. It was a waste human resources to design them when they had bigger things to worry about and it was a waste of system resources to render them. Just added crap to load everytime you zone and it already took forever back in the day.

[Lagaidh]

pretty sure that is horse poo in freeport. why would a cow be in the metropolis?

One of the first times I ever caught an out-loud laughing fit from EQ, it was a young enchanter in Freeport turning into that pile of poop. Minor Illusion? The illusion form made a pile of poop that was three dwarves wide and a half a gnome tall.

Man we laughed.

[maskedmelon]

One of the first times I ever caught an out-loud laughing fit from EQ, it was a young enchanter in Freeport turning into that pile of poop. Minor Illusion? The illusion form made a pile of poop that was three dwarves wide and a half a gnome tall.

Man we laughed.

I bet your friend thought he was some sort of big shit after figuring that out >.>

[Burrito]

TFW you realize they weren't farming cows or horses in the Karanas, but giant fire beetles.

[Rader]

Where is this pile of sh!t in Freeport? Never seen it and have run all over that place a gazillion times

[Sorn]

Where is this pile of sh!t in Freeport? Never seen it and have run all over that place a gazillion times

Near the monk guild in WFP. It's still there on live in the revamped FP, too...they added steam to it. :D

[sacman08]

Classic EQ had no horses, cows, sheep, pigs, or chickens. This is despite there being farms and wagons littering the countryside, gypsy camps with caravans that were pulled by something or someone, and a mysterious cow pie left in Freeport.

The same reason that Qeynos has a bunch of empty houses, they ran out of money, needed to sell the game to make more, and that was something they would add later.
As for the poo pile, I always thought that some Ogre or Troll dropped a load when they almost got caught by FP guards.

[Gumbo]

I think EQ used to have the basis for ordinary type animals but since its EQ, the animals were changed... Horses and chickens became Centaurs and Aviaks and cows and bulls become Minotaurs.

[maskedmelon]

I think EQ used to have the basis for ordinary type animals but since its EQ, the animals were changed... Horses and chickens became Centaurs and Aviaks and cows and bulls become Minotaurs.

Kinda like Pokemon?

[maximum]

Where is this pile of sh!t in Freeport? Never seen it and have run all over that place a gazillion times

Near the Theater of the Tranquil. It's brown and in the middle of the sand/rocky road.

[maximum]

EQ doesn't have any domesticated animals--those breeds are a human/Earth creation. I suppose they wanted Classic Norrath to feel wild and untamed (and it is).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domesticated_animals

Bonus question: why the hell are there so many elephants in South Karana? Seems weird.

[bestovv]

We, the players, are the lifestock.

deep

[maskedmelon]

Ordinarily milk comes from mammaries. Halas is renown throughout Norath for its milk exports thanks to special adaptations Barbarians have undergone as a result of their frigid environment. Normally, females only lactate following pregnancy and while reading young. The barbarian women are different though. You see, the north is so cold that absent regular motion, fluids freeze within seconds! This could be disastrous for milk ducts which could rupture under pressure from frozen milk :c Barbarian women have developed "leaky flow regulators" that ensure the milk is in content motion and thereby decreasing the likelihood of a frozen duct and the resulting inability to feed their future children.

Of course modern wools and downs have largely eliminated this problem, but they've not removed the Barabarians' unique adaptation. This is why Barbarian women look so well endowed and also is why they so tightly bind that endowment. They are perpetually engorged and the binding is the only way to halt the flow. Of course they will continue to produce milk and so must expel it regularly and rather than waste it have established a profitable business by promoting the nutritious value of milk for all.

The other source of milk in Norrath is somewhat less wholesome. It was the year 3644 when Bizzlebun Gnoglefont a Tinkerer of Dark Reflection, first identified an alternative source of milk using a high-walled olive press, a set of rudimentary alchemy vials and a bit of Minotaur elbow grease.

Bizzlebun had been working tirelessly on his thesis Uses for the Useless: Applications for the Lesser Races of Norrath and had hit a wall. Within his laboratory and even without, had suffered the spite and ineffective reprisal of his ungrateful subjects for years, even sacrificing much of his hearing to their insolent cries, but in the end he had prevailed. He had brought purpose to their otherwise meaningless lives whether or not they understood or appareciated his efforts. His great work spare none. All shit races were afforded at a minimu 3 uses that Bizzlebun had identified himself. Some were perhaps more praiseworthy than others and some easier to exact than others, but all were given purpose in one form or s other... All, except one.

It had been a source of great frustration for Bizzlebun throughout the years. Setback after setback it seemed one race was beyond all doubts, utterly useless. Bizzlebun refused to acknowledge that there could really be a thing with no use and so he returned periodically to study the nature and attempt to formulate uses for this particular races as his research on others advanced with admirable consistency.

One da Natter a particularly grueling research session, Bizzlebun snapped. His head was pounding from the ungrateful cries of a family of these creatures, each stubbornly refusing to yield to the noble purpose he had identified for them. Bizzlebun was tired. He was exhausted. He sighed as the last of the creatures slandered his name, his good works and even his mother. And that's when it happened. He did t care anymore. He was through with these things. They really were useless! Bizzlebun stalked toward the creature, it's mean face towering far overhead as he approached. He would destroy it!

He reached up with his little skull-tipped rod and poked the thing in the chest, causing it to stumble. It's legs were caught by the low wall of an old high-walled olive press and it came crashing down into the center. Bizzlebun's face twisted in frustration as he kicked a lever next to the press releasing the stone from above. It came crashing down, pinching off the things legs and splattering Bizzlebun in the process.

Bizzlebun was furious. Not only had the thing refuse purpose, it had caused him to make a mess of his laboratory and and sullied his fine clothes. Blood would not be easily cleansed from his white silk robes. He wiped his face and was about to shake the blood from his fat little fingers when he realized that there was something odd about it. He glanced to the press, back to his hand and sniffed the air. He rubbed the substance pale runny fluid together between his fingers and gave them a lick. A wry smile spread across his haggard little face. MILK! He had done it! When subjected to sudden pressure of extraordinary magnitude, milk could be extracted from these almost useless creatures. Bizzlebun's life ambition was finally realized: high elves had a use after all.

^ factual

[Doctor Jeff]

Classic EQ had no horses, cows, sheep, pigs, or chickens. This is despite there being farms and wagons littering the countryside, gypsy camps with caravans that were pulled by something or someone, and a mysterious cow pie left in Freeport.

all of those additional assets would lag the game.

[Muggens]

^ factual

Learning something new about the vast world that is Norrath every day!
I was sure it could not be batmilk!

[Jimjam]

Learning something new about the vast world that is Norrath every day!
I was sure it could not be batmilk!

Some male bats lactate.

[jman]

They were over farmed by poopsocking necros. Where do we get all the milk from? Well, we don't have cows. But we have lots and lots of large rats.

[DevGrousis]

My computer struggled without all those extra models to render. I for one am very happy they didn't have all those little criters running around making my Gateway blow hot air on my leg.