Nostalrius is coming back!

[Huc11]

Nostalrius vanilla wow is making a comeback. They are resurrecting both the pvp and pve servers under Elysium ( https://elysium-project.org/ ). They are also going to create a new pvp server as well. They are going to start with the Nostalrius pvp server and go from there. If anyone here played on Nostalrius, you will be able to play your characters again.

[AzzarTheGod]

Naw I'm fuckin w/ Legion. Fuck nost 28.0

[katrik]

Excited.

[Angushjalmur]

Yeah but can I play my beloved Anguskhan, tauren warior again?

[eadric]

Yeah, they are restoring the old Nost accounts on their first server, and following up with a fresh server a few weeks later. We'll have to see how the performance is, and how long it takes both servers to be completely flooded with chinese RMT gold farmers.

[Swish]

I wonder if they'll be offering gold again under the guise of being Chinese gold farmers?

[Angushjalmur]

I might play there again here and there, but im immersed as fuck in Nasomi right now and im working my way up to controlling the endgame scene there

[AzzarTheGod]

I wonder if they'll be offering gold again under the guise of being Chinese gold farmers?

Lol gotem.jpeg

[Angushjalmur]

There was some retard who thought he was a prodigal rapper on the forums called Itsreal or some shit

Griefed him off the forums before I stopped playing. In hindsight, i think that was the only reason I played there after like lvl 15

[AzzarTheGod]

Was speed eating like a snortling pig, inhaled a small particle of Parmesan cheese while eating spaghetti and meatballs. Fortunately missed the airway easily (didn't inhale too hard) but it planted itself on an area that has no muscle or saliva activity behind the tonsil and it's irking the heck out of me.

Gonna have to hit a peroxide gurgle. May try alcohol first to spare myself the rape of peroxide.

Just posting this incase anyone can relate in this shitty Nost thread.

[username17]

I've been following this. I never got to 60 on Nost. I think I'll be rerolling on the PvP fresh server when it drops.

[Spyder73]

Legion is sweet - Nostalrius sounds gay

[R Flair]

I guess that means blizzard meeting with nost crew to do vanilla was a bust and just a way to pacify fans after all.

[Tann]

Legion is absolute dogshit - Nostalrius sounds awesome

FTFY

[burkemi5]

So what's going to happen when Blizz tells the new server to stop? How will this one be any different? I'd be interested in playing but don't want to get my shit wiped in 2-3 months when blizz throws the ban hammer down.

[Huc11]

So what's going to happen when Blizz tells the new server to stop? How will this one be any different? I'd be interested in playing but don't want to get my shit wiped in 2-3 months when blizz throws the ban hammer down.

Their official statement is that they will politely decline any c and d orders. I don't know if they can just ignore blizzard. However, there are a lot of wow servers out there, that have been operating for years. What would have happened if Nostalrius would have ignored blizzard? I have a character on Nost pvp, so I am going to go back.

[georgie]

They would go to jail... someone said if stationed in Russia they couldn't do shit. I'd actually be curious to know the outcome

[Nymphomancer]

Vanilla is fun and all, but Blizzard is going to be on the warpath about this. Don't feel safe investing much time into another Nost

[eadric]

They are hosted in Russia now. Blizzard has about as much a chance of shutting them down as the US government has of getting their hands on Edward Snowden.

[Videri]

I've never played WoW. Is it worth trying?
• I love the vastness and wonder of Norrath...is there a lot to explore on Azeroth?
• Do the various classes have a high skill ceiling or is it just a mindless grind-fest?
• Are classes customizable or is it more like a wizard is a wizard, a warrior is a warrior, a paladin is garbage, etc?

[Pokesan]

oh boy i sure do want to play on a russia server

[TacoSmasher]

going to be good. casuals need not apply. some specs for certain classes suck in vanilla, dealwithit.

i will be griefing the low lvl alliance areas until it shuts down.

[Angushjalmur]

going to be good. casuals need not apply. some specs for certain classes suck in vanilla, dealwithit.

i will be griefing the low lvl alliance areas until it shuts down.

Let's break this down point by point.

"Casuals need not apply" WoW was made for casuals, which is why it was so successful. Feeling insecure in a game meant for casuals means you know youre beneath casuals.

"Some specs for certain classes suck in vanilla" Nah, you're just bad at a game intended for casuals. You're only good at clicking one skill 4 times a minute, hence your obsession with 'competition' on red.

"I will be griefing low lvl alliance areas" This is suggestive of some very serious self esteem issues. Not only do you feel that you yourself are so beneath your 'peers' that you're afraid to challenge anyone your level, it also leads one to believe that you were the dark kid in school who got chubs from squishing bugs and smelled like ear wax.


probably the cringiest post I've seen on the forams

Yikes

[TacoSmasher]

Let's break this down point by point.

"Casuals need not apply" WoW was made for casuals, which is why it was so successful. Feeling insecure in a game meant for casuals means you know youre beneath casuals.

"Some specs for certain classes suck in vanilla" Nah, you're just bad at a game intended for casuals. You're only good at clicking one skill 4 times a minute, hence your obsession with 'competition' on red.

"I will be griefing low lvl alliance areas" This is suggestive of some very serious self esteem issues. Not only do you feel that you yourself are so beneath your 'peers' that you're afraid to challenge anyone your level, it also leads one to believe that you were the dark kid in school who got chubs from squishing bugs and smelled like ear wax.


probably the cringiest post I've seen on the forams

Yikes

thats a pretty extensive analysis of a shitpost. cringing + GOTEM

[georgie]

I've never played WoW. Is it worth trying?
• I love the vastness and wonder of Norrath...is there a lot to explore on Azeroth?
• Do the various classes have a high skill ceiling or is it just a mindless grind-fest?
• Are classes customizable or is it more like a wizard is a wizard, a warrior is a warrior, a paladin is garbage, etc?
Game is all about macros and keybinds honestly.

[big_ole_jpn]

Vanilla WoW is good. Never gets the hugemongo feel of norrath due to griffin routes, no dynamic faction system, etc, but it does feel like a big world. Ppl call EQ a theme park MMO but wow is way more themeparky. Fun tho.

[skarlorn]

i rolled a sweet undead rogg on that server on the day it lanched. took a quits cause i got addicted then came back and 2 weeks later they said we gonna cransh nostalrius. sorry pals. we r cucks 2 blizz atm. but now it seems TRUMP is strongarming Nost into giving server code to Russia so the fucking COMMIes can hack into our (((compooters))) () () () (()) and wrek fuck our pixels.

i will be back ganking N!ghtelves on my lusty steed soon enough friendos

[big_ole_jpn]

I'm gonna roll up on this russkie shitbox tbh. Been 2 long since I hit that wow bong

[georgie]

NE Hunter best world pvp race.

[Angushjalmur]

thats a pretty extensive analysis of a shitpost. cringing + GOTEM

Solid save attempt, but the judges aren't accepting it

[maskedmelon]

I only played wow thrice and both+ times felt like I was chasing squirrels. Load up on quests, go bash things that die super quick to collect quest items, repeat. Was difficult to make a group activity out of it.

Also, why everyone always evil? Anyone play elves or humans?

[big_ole_jpn]

I only played wow thrice and both+ times felt like I was chasing squirrels. Load up on quests, go bash things that die super quick to collect quest items, repeat. Was difficult to make a group activity out of it.

Also, why everyone always evil? Anyone play elves or humans?
I always play alliance (so I can be the cutest girls), you gonna roll up with me?

What era did you play in? The mobs got a LOT easier over time, from slightly-less-difficult-than-EQ at launch (face tank 2 dark blues at a time but it's very expensive) to completely retarded now (face tank 6 dark blues, rape them).

There's plenty of group stuff too for levelling in vanilla.

[Angushjalmur]

Also, why everyone always evil? Anyone play elves or humans?

The Horde isn't evil, They're just a different faction from Alliance.

[big_ole_jpn]

The Horde isn't evil, They're just a different faction from Alliance.

Fuck you, horde was flat out evil until the lore was multiculturalized in wc3

[Nymphomancer]

Blizzard (which does business in Russia btw, there are Russian realms) is going to rape your characters.

Nost devs declared total war on Blizz when they released their source code in response to being shunned at Blizzcon.

President Trump is going to personally issue an executive order shutting down Elysium

[maskedmelon]

I always play alliance (so I can be the cutest girls), you gonna roll up with me?

What era did you play in? The mobs got a LOT easier over time, from slightly-less-difficult-than-EQ at launch (face tank 2 dark blues at a time but it's very expensive) to completely retarded now (face tank 6 dark blues, rape them).

There's plenty of group stuff too for levelling in vanilla.

I dunno what era it was. The last time was with some peeps here from plugdj. Think it was supposed to be a classic kinda server can't remember name. Gameplau felt a lot twitchier too :/ I may give it a go. Been thinking of giving nasomi a try though.

[big_ole_jpn]

Yeah I've been considering nasomi too, never got a chance to do ff11 back in the day. Usually takes me about 4 months from deciding to try a server to actually rolling tho

[maskedmelon]

lol yeah, I am slow to decide too ^^

[Angushjalmur]

Yeah I've been considering nasomi too, never got a chance to do ff11 back in the day. Usually takes me about 4 months from deciding to try a server to actually rolling tho

lol yeah, I am slow to decide too ^^

Both of you need to quit beating around the bush and commit.

I'll even start a linkshell (ffxi for guild)

[Angushjalmur]

Fuck you, horde was flat out evil until the lore was multiculturalized in wc3

Conquest isn't evil, it's just a byproduct of testosterone. The orcs were just being manly

[big_ole_jpn]

Resurrecting the dead to fight as skeles and raining fire is evil. Way different from being a poor misunderstood aboriginal orc who sees the colors in the wind.

[maskedmelon]

What class should I play? I like melee, but don't mind support and don't really like soloing. Not really care for pure casters

[Angushjalmur]

What class should I play? I like melee, but don't mind support and don't really like soloing. Not really care for pure casters

Soloing isnt really a thing in ffxi beyond the early levels. Once you're like 14-15 you're going to be partying if you want xp (with a couple exceptions)

Tank melee or DD melee?

[Angushjalmur]

Resurrecting the dead to fight as skeles and raining fire is evil. Way different from being a poor misunderstood aboriginal orc who sees the colors in the wind.

Sounds more like taking advantage of your ability to manipulate nature for your own benefit, which is basically what everything ultimately is

"To exist is to be evil" -big_ole_jpn


Youre displaying a high unwoke saturation level

[maskedmelon]

Soloing isnt really a thing in ffxi beyond the early levels. Once you're like 14-15 you're going to be partying if you want xp (with a couple exceptions)

Tank melee or DD melee?

Either fine, but prolly more DD. I like monk/ranger most in EQ if that helps ^^

[big_ole_jpn]

Sounds more like taking advantage of your ability to manipulate nature for your own benefit, which is basically what everything ultimately is

"To exist is to be evil" -big_ole_jpn


Youre displaying a high unwoke saturation level

your not wrong except about the unwoke saturation, but your really wrong if u don't think horde were sissified in wc3 so they look good to multicult peons. They weren't evil like dahmer they were 'evil' like adolf. U get what I'm saying right?

This is the problem w/ sharing a language with plebs, u start using pleb vocabulary and it confuses conversations among the woke.

Neway is there an enchanter-like class in ffxi? I want to play the crazy gimmick job, or a mega healer.

[Angushjalmur]

Ranger is closer to the EQ version than monk is. That's a job you have to unlock though once you get another job to 30+

You'd need to level ninja (another unlockable class) to use as a subjob if you wanted to dual wield with it, but thf or warrior are also good ranger subs. They pump out a LOT of damage, and are pretty sought after for parties, too

[entruil]

Youre displaying a high unwoke saturation level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkWhkAZ9ds

oh my goodness melon this is going to be everywhere on these forums now.

/emote jumps up and down
/laugh


no red mage? I always thought red mage was closest to enchanter in ff lore?

[Angushjalmur]

your not wrong except about the unwoke saturation, but your really wrong if u don't think horde were sissified in wc3 so they look good to multicult peons. They weren't evil like dahmer they were 'evil' like adolf. U get what I'm saying right?

This is the problem w/ sharing a language with plebs, u start using pleb vocabulary and it confuses conversations among the woke.

Neway is there an enchanter-like class in ffxi? I want to play the crazy gimmick job, or a mega healer.

I think the closest to enchanter would be bard. theyve got CC songs and stuff

Mega healer would be white mage

[Swish]

What class should I play? I like melee, but don't mind support and don't really like soloing. Not really care for pure casters

Shaman is screaming out at me here. If you haven't tried one, try one.

[Pokesan]

extra chromosomi

[AzzarTheGod]

I think the closest to enchanter would be bard. theyve got CC songs and stuff

Mega healer would be white mage

yo this nasomi sounds like a beast

[R Flair]

It's actually not. Its a couple hundred people with 90% of them in 2 or 3 different zones level syncing (mentoring) to grind the same mobs day in and day out until they're high enough level to play FTE on the best raid mobs.

It's a really generic and uninspired version of EQ for Japanese people.

That said, I do have a couple chars there and still prefer it to any modern MMOs.

[big_ole_jpn]

ya but jap eq clone tho

[maskedmelon]

oh my goodness melon this is going to be everywhere on these forums now.

/emote jumps up and down
/laugh



i'n't it cute? :3

[maskedmelon]

ok, so starting off I have to be war monk thief black mage white mage or red mage? I am reading this Getting Started (http://nasomi.com/getting_started_3.php).

[big_ole_jpn]

^ya thas confusing wots a advanced job js that skill to play or ingame meaningful

[Angushjalmur]

It's actually not. Its a couple hundred people with 90% of them in 2 or 3 different zones level syncing (mentoring) to grind the same mobs day in and day out until they're high enough level to play FTE on the best raid mobs.

It's a really generic and uninspired version of EQ for Japanese people.

That said, I do have a couple chars there and still prefer it to any modern MMOs.
I'd explain why youre wrong but i dont care enough. consider nasomi
ok, so starting off I have to be war monk thief black mage white mage or red mage? I am reading this Getting Started (http://nasomi.com/getting_started_3.php).
Right. So if I were going to be a ranger, i'd level thief to 18, unlock subjobs (thats like multiclassing), switch to warrior/thief and get warrior to 37, then unlock ranger. That way ive got warrior as a subjob already leveled, thief gets treasure hunter at 15 (increases the liklihood of drops) for farming, and then level ranger. you can do whatever, and you might wanna mess around with a few different jobs to see how they work

Also, a subjob can never effectively exceed half of your main job level. So say you've got warrior leveled to 37 and ranger leveled to 14. if you go ranger/warrior, you'd be a level 14 ranger with the abilities and stat bonuses of a lvl 7 warrior in addition to what a 14 ranger already has, even though your actual warior level is 37. Once ranger got to 16, you'd be ranger 16/ warrior 8 ect
^ya thas confusing wots a advanced job js that skill to play or ingame meaningful

Ok so the standard jobs (warrior, monk, thief, red mage, white mage, black mage) are the ones you can start as. An advanced job is one that you have to unlock by completing specific quests, which require level 30 to get.

[maskedmelon]

think you have to get to level 30 then you can unlock the "advanced" ones. If I recall correctly your character can level up all jobs. You choose which you want to be your main when you in town and then choose a sub job that can never be more than half the level of your main job, but you only level up your main job at any time...

So like if you want an advanced job, you have to level up a basic one to level 30, then get the advanced one and level it up (on the same character).

[big_ole_jpn]

dat sounds dope

[maskedmelon]

I'd explain why youre wrong but i dont care enough. consider nasomi

Right. So if I were going to be a ranger, i'd level thief to 18, unlock subjobs (thats like multiclassing), switch to warrior/thief and get warrior to 37, then unlock ranger. That way ive got warrior as a subjob already leveled, thief gets treasure hunter at 15 (increases the liklihood of drops) for farming, and then level ranger. you can do whatever, and you might wanna mess around with a few different jobs to see how they work


Ok so the standard jobs (warrior, monk, thief, red mage, white mage, black mage) are the ones you can start as. An advanced job is one that you have to unlock by completing specific quests, which require level 30 to get.

Ok, I gonna do that then. NEXT dilemma.....







Tarutaru or Mithra?

[Angushjalmur]

Ok, I gonna do that then. NEXT dilemma.....







Tarutaru or Mithra?

Performance wise, a mithra would do better with ranger, and theyre also more balanced stat wise, so you wouldnt be gimped if you were to level a different job later on. Tarutaru are great with magic, but severely gimped when it comes to melee stuff because of their stats. They have decent agility, so they can make competent rangers

Though that's not to say that you couldnt do well with any job as any race given the right equipment and abilities as a player. One of the best white mages I partied with in retail was a galka, who are designed for tanking and melee DD

[maskedmelon]

So it look like it install a bunch of expansions, those part of game now, or they come out later in server life?

[big_ole_jpn]

downloading client

[Angushjalmur]

So it look like it install a bunch of expansions, those part of game now, or they come out later in server life?

You only need to install the original game, and the expansions up to wings of the goddess I think. I dont believe it makes a difference if you have the expansions beyond that

[maskedmelon]

oh ok, it said install EVERYTHING, so I just clicked ok and looks like I getting it all now >.>

wai~!


lol

[Angushjalmur]

Haha ehh, it's just a few more minutes of installing.

The patch will be the fun part

[Angushjalmur]

Gimme some ideas for a linkshell name

[maskedmelon]

hmmmm

[maskedmelon]

Blind Cry
Bleeding Enmity
Corrupt Truths
Crass Majesty
Endearing Reprise
Voluptuous Rhapsody

[maskedmelon]

Does it matter if I installed play online to a different directory than FFXI?

[big_ole_jpn]

Thugz Mansion

[maskedmelon]

Society of Resplendent Persons

[entruil]

Thugz Mansion

[Angushjalmur]

Does it matter if I installed play online to a different directory than FFXI?

I'm not sure actually.. if it doesnt work for the patch, just move it over to the same directory as ffxi.


Also, theres a 19 character limit on LS names. Cult of the Retarded God wont fit :C

[maskedmelon]

I'm not sure actually.. if it doesnt work for the patch, just move it over to the same directory as ffxi.


Also, theres a 19 character limit on LS names. Cult of the Retarded God wont fit :C

Well poo, that is not very many characters at all

nasomi spoke to me and said my installation would be fine though ^^

[Angushjalmur]

Nice

[maskedmelon]

Cult o Retarded God

that too truncated though i think. sounds dumb

[big_ole_jpn]

Thugz Mansion

[Angushjalmur]

2pac was a shill im not tipping my hat to him

[maskedmelon]

Hmmm, so I made it to step 7, but that step says just put in POL ID, but POL is demanding a name.

[big_ole_jpn]

im gay

[Angushjalmur]

Hmmm, so I made it to step 7, but that step says just put in POL ID, but POL is demanding a name and pw.

yeah doesnt matter, just make some shit up lol. it doesnt actually communicate with playonline servers, just needs something in the fields. remember what you put in though just in case.

[maskedmelon]

ok spiffy, I am checking files! :3

3438 to fix! ^^;

[Angushjalmur]

ok spiffy, I am checking files! :3

3438 to fix! ^^;

You chose ffxi from the dropdown menu to check after deleting vtable.dat right?

[maskedmelon]

You chose ffxi from the dropdown menu to check after deleting vtable.dat right?

I chose FFXI from drop down but didn't delete anything. Only 10min left on the check

[Angushjalmur]

Ahh, yeah it probably wont find any files to repair :/

If it doest work, go into your ffxi files, find VTABLE.dat and delete it. Check files again, and it should start the patch

[Baler]

Have fun playing on a russian server. Dat Ping Doe!
http://i.imgur.com/SuU6Jyd.jpg

oh wait,. pic doesn't apply because that older then dirt client nost uses doesn't go up to the epic content that TBC had to offer.

[Angushjalmur]

Get with the times loser this is a FFXI thread now

[Baler]

Get with the times super nice guy this is a FFXI thread now

What,. shit when did.. erm :confused:

[maskedmelon]

Hmm, says it gonna take 6hours to repair 12926 fiiles. Cancel and delete the table thingy./? The guide said this step can take hours

[entruil]

i don't trust shit... 'scuse... rage...

[Angushjalmur]

Hmm, says it gonna take 6hours to repair 12926 fiiles. Cancel and delete the table thingy./? The guide said this step can take hours

Sounds like it worked. Maybe that VTABLE file isnt created until you log in the first time..

That file count and time sounds right, pretty sure youre good

[maskedmelon]

Oh! One more thing. Once it done downloading, I just use the normal shortcut it made on install to launch the game? After I copy the data file from the pop directory and stuff of course ^^

[Angushjalmur]

All youve gotta do is run ashita, and create a game account in the bootloader that pops up after selecting your resolution in ashita :V

Youre probably gonna have weird resolution and stuff, but that can be changed in ashita and/or the ffxiconfig that you'll find in the ffxi directory.

[maskedmelon]

Ohhh ok, just ashita, gotcha. ty

[Angushjalmur]

Also the trick to making the graphics better is to set your background resolution to double or triple the window resolution in ffxiconfig. I'd set the window resolution to be slightly smaller than your monitor. if you expand the window you'll have trouble clicking on things, since the mouse will assume the window is the size it was before expanding

[big_ole_jpn]

this install takes balls long holy shit

the files were only 6gb wtf

[Angushjalmur]

The patch is what takes a while :3

[maskedmelon]

this install takes balls long holy shit

the files were only 6gb wtf

Yeah, I thought so too, but then I realized that it was opening windows behind Windows and I had to manually switch to those to click next boxes ^^

[maskedmelon]

Error:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : ashita.exe P2 : 2.0.0.14 P3 : 572bc55c
P4 : system P5 : 4.0.0.0 P6 : 5073c71b P7 : 3e46 P8 : 3b0
P9 : system.componentmodel.win32h

Think it because I'm running Windows XP 64bit.

Or maybe because I have a 64bit C++ 2010 runtime installed on top of the other ones? It returned an error saying "newer version found when I tried to install the 2010 one that came with it. Maybe uninstall those and that one and then reinstall?

[burkemi5]

I missed a few pages. Is there a FF11 box somewhere? Or are all you guys just playing live FF11?

[maskedmelon]

I missed a few pages. Is there a FF11 box somewhere? Or are all you guys just playing live FF11?

Yes, it is called Nasomi :3

[Tolgrim]

I played wow only once, As soon as I log in it tells me to kill certain amount of creature. I then proceed to log out.

[Angushjalmur]

Error:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : ashita.exe P2 : 2.0.0.14 P3 : 572bc55c
P4 : system P5 : 4.0.0.0 P6 : 5073c71b P7 : 3e46 P8 : 3b0
P9 : system.componentmodel.win32h

Think it because I'm running Windows XP 64bit.

Or maybe because I have a 64bit C++ 2010 runtime installed on top of the other ones? It returned an error saying "newer version found when I tried to install the 2010 one that came with it. Maybe uninstall those and that one and then reinstall?

I've never encountered that before :0

Try installing the newer c++ redist, if that doesn't work, go to the irc at nasomi.net and I'm sure someone can solve it for you. Are you using the 64bit ashita? There's a 32 bit version too

[maskedmelon]

I've never encountered that before :0

Try installing the newer c++ redist, if that doesn't work, go to the irc at nasomi.net and I'm sure someone can solve it for you. Are you using the 64bit ashita? There's a 32 bit version too

Ohhh, I don't know, how do I tell? I only saw one in the folder. I installed the 64bit POL.

[Angushjalmur]

Sorry I meant 64bit pol. Install the c++ that should have come in the folder, I think its the 2014 version. If that doesn't work I'll hop on in a bit and see if I can figure something out

[big_ole_jpn]

is ashita supposed to wind up in your actual installed ff11 directory? i completed the entire readme to set up but running ashita and entering my account info into the command prompt just causes the prompt to close, no game starts. ashita exe still located among the files i torrented, not the install directory.

[maskedmelon]

Sorry I meant 64bit pol. Install the c++ that should have come in the folder, I think its the 2014 version. If that doesn't work I'll hop on in a bit and see if I can figure something out

Okies, I will give that a to when I get home tonight and then harass nasomi.net if it don't work. ty

[georgie]

I played wow only once, As soon as I log in it tells me to kill certain amount of creature. I then proceed to log out.

Oddly enough that sounds like everquest. U dum?

[Angushjalmur]

is ashita supposed to wind up in your actual installed ff11 directory? i completed the entire readme to set up but running ashita and entering my account info into the command prompt just causes the prompt to close, no game starts. ashita exe still located among the files i torrented, not the install directory.

Nah doesn't matter where ashita is.

I think I know what's wrong though, gimme like 30 minutes and I'll send you a pm with what to change in ashita. Gotta point it to the server

[Angushjalmur]

Btw in the boot loader after inputting your account and password, does it say hairpin failed?

[TacoSmasher]

https://youtu.be/UPnMFJiOxT4

Nope Vs Dreamstate pvp. guild rivalry was pretty bitter at the high end for only competing on a few world pvp dragons and bwl clear records.

edit: video is <NOPE> blendering multiple horde guilds. RIP ony/zg buffs

[SamwiseRed]

I played wow only once, As soon as I log in it tells me to kill certain amount of creature. I then proceed to log out.

ya killing creatures is lame

[big_ole_jpn]

Btw in the boot loader after inputting your account and password, does it say hairpin failed?

I thought it said succeeded but I'm outside melon's place of employment with a pair of binoculars right now. I'll work on this when he gets home.

[Angushjalmur]

I thought it said succeeded but I'm outside melon's place of employment with a pair of binoculars right now. I'll work on this when he gets home.

Lol PMd you some instructions, so try that out once youre done making sure melon is ok

[maskedmelon]

Such a romantic ^^

[georgie]

damn 4got i got exalted with SW for the horse.

[big_ole_jpn]

got game running, rolled a elvaan fuckwench named japan, what country i start in?

[maskedmelon]

I reinstalled all the c library stuffs and still get same error, so waiting for helps in nasomi.net

[big_ole_jpn]

I looked hot in character select but I look like a fuckin ape ingame. nobody is gonna cyber this.

[big_ole_jpn]

this game is more of a labyrinth than eq to figure out and the interface is half-consolized. where tf are you angush

[maskedmelon]

what city you at? I got tips to make it work, but it is full screen and look like ass lol

[big_ole_jpn]

i think im in the elf city but i cant remember and am so lost

[big_ole_jpn]

there's a lot of grey stone and i cant figure this UI out

[maskedmelon]

yeah i freezing at char select, think i need to upgrade to windows 7

[big_ole_jpn]

i can only assume my game is actually broken and not displaying all UI elements, this shit is fucking weird

maskedmelon or angush you gotta log in and send japan a /tell in 5 min or i'm officially bored

[R Flair]

if you guys didn't start in the same area, you may have some trouble. You also probably want to figure out what city armor quests are best for your classes and try to plot which races are best to start together.

[maskedmelon]

I can't :/ mine no worky. Have to install new OS I think... *sigh*

[big_ole_jpn]

it's time, to be honest

xp is ded

[maskedmelon]

Yeah, I just haven't wanted to take the time for a fresh install. Backing stuff up to an exty now and have a copy of win 7 here :3 have to install that though and hen hopefully can just reinstall ffxi and copy the complete install file overtop it without repatciong. We'll see.

[maskedmelon]

if you guys didn't start in the same area, you may have some trouble. You also probably want to figure out what city armor quests are best for your classes and try to plot which races are best to start together.

I was wondering what is least popular race. Was leaning towards going tarutaru (1st choice) or mithra. But the. Thought maybe I give hume a go. So not too sure.

[maskedmelon]

I can just install win7 to a different hard drive and boot from that and don't have to do anything to my existing drive right?

[R Flair]

I was wondering what is least popular race. Was leaning towards going tarutaru (1st choice) or mithra. But the. Thought maybe I give hume a go. So not too sure.

I started human when I made my character. There was some cool city quests. I ended up going to another city to earn reputation and get set armor. One cool thing is though, you can earn any armor and sell it on the auction and then just buy the pieces from other cities that you want. That whole newbie city armor thing was my only dilemma early on with choosing a city.

[Angushjalmur]

I can just install win7 to a different hard drive and boot from that and don't have to do anything to my existing drive right?

Still not working huh? Did you ever manage to get any help from the irc?

[Swish]

This doesn't sound like classic WoW at all

[big_ole_jpn]

I can just install win7 to a different hard drive and boot from that and don't have to do anything to my existing drive right?

Yes, you may have to set up a boot manager butt I'll walk you through it. Sometimes windows figures it out itself. You won't lose any data finding out

[big_ole_jpn]

need help w/ that boot manager? pm me your number

[TacoSmasher]

ITT: technically inept ppl

[R Flair]

When I played there were a couple of cool launchers too that have a lot of built in addons that you can use and also edit the game to increase resolutions and improve the graphics. Make sure you look into dat.

[Saludeen]

I played on the original Nost and I might reroll on the new one cause nobody knows how OP shadow priests are. And when i'm playing one i'm almost unstoppable 1v1. When I did the HWL grind on my hunter in vanilla it was literally impossible to beat my shadowpriest friend I ranked with, even with equal gear. Its just game mechanics. But my character on live is so awesome now its hard to go back to Nos. Blizzards shady scheme worked by shutting it down so people play Legion: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/Palfor/simple - Look how awesome my pally is. Grand Marshal glaive, best transmog, OP class, etc.

[Videri]

Is WoW cool? Never played it. Should I try Nostalrius or WoW live or neither?

[skarlorn]

Vanilla wow is the best open world PvP out there I m o friendo. Wait for nost to come back.

[R Flair]

Vanilla wow is the best open world PvP out there I m o friendo. Wait for nost to come back.

Vanilla WoW paled in comparison to EQ. Sure it was good for the solo fights, but without something to fight over it got boring quick. Being able to fight for rares, dungeons and raid spawns made EQ's open world PvP exponentially more enjoyable.

[Daywolf]

Yeah, I'd have to put almost every classic open-world mmo above vanilla wow. It's got polish, but gameplay is uninteresting. Not that it's bad, it's an ok time waster, but at least it's not bad like older wow. But most definitely I'd list UO, EQ, SWG (pre-CU), EVE above it.

WoW doesn't even really feel "open world", more like a full on themepark progression level grinder. It's early success is mainly due to the Blizzard brand name, all their existing gamers insisting Diablo be recognized as an mmo, and Blizzard cashing in on that with wow to their fans that never really played an mmo before and got hooked on their first. As wow gained subscriptions from Blizzard fanbois, it became "popular" (trendy) and more people were drawn into it thinking it was the antithesis of cutting edge gaming.

Then hoards of "mmo players" flooding the genre begging every mmo developer to either clone wow (they were bored between expansions) or revamp existing mmo's to be more like wow. The ones that listened to the fickled wow players ruined their games and/or made pathetic wow clones no one wanted.

Then when failure turned to desperation, they started cranking out F2P's trying to capture this elusive army of wow players that really only wanted wow. And when they realized that the new mmo's may not be successful in stealing away players from Blizzard, they focused on big fat whale players: the few willing to spend big money in the cash shops of F2P's and development focused primarily on such players, those bored between wow expansions. The rise and fall of mmo civilization.

Nah, I had been on Nos for several months before it was shut down, I don't think I'm going to pick it up again.

[Spyder73]

I played on the original Nost and I might reroll on the new one cause nobody knows how OP shadow priests are. And when i'm playing one i'm almost unstoppable 1v1. When I did the HWL grind on my hunter in vanilla it was literally impossible to beat my shadowpriest friend I ranked with, even with equal gear. Its just game mechanics. But my character on live is so awesome now its hard to go back to Nos. Blizzards shady scheme worked by shutting it down so people play Legion: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/Palfor/simple - Look how awesome my pally is. Grand Marshal glaive, best transmog, OP class, etc.

1) Pally is a cuck class.
2) Your transmog is weak compared to mine.
3) I am still salty that I xfered servers/alliance to play with some IRL friends. FOR THE HORDE.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/windrunner/%C3%86y%C3%A9l%C3%A9ss/simple

[Spyder73]

Vanilla wow is the best open world PvP out there I m o friendo. Wait for nost to come back.

With the new world quests every day - Open world PVP is 100% more legit now than it ever was with Tarrin Mill f#ckery. Legion is pretty good and Nost seems like 500 steps backwards

[Saludeen]

1) Pally is a cuck class.
2) Your transmog is weak compared to mine.
3) I am still salty that I xfered servers/alliance to play with some IRL friends. FOR THE HORDE.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/windrunner/%C3%86y%C3%A9l%C3%A9ss/simple

Your transmog looks cool but pandas look like fat downies. And by "cuck" class you mean "owns anyone 1v1 except mages and disc who hard counter" sure lol. I started with disc and boomkin and they're so weak compared to my old pally. Except for boomkins in BG's. Too bad the only tolerable race to play is human.

[Saludeen]

With the new world quests every day - Open world PVP is 100% more legit now than it ever was with Tarrin Mill f#ckery. Legion is pretty good and Nost seems like 500 steps backwards

Legion actually seems ripe for world pvp. I love all the variations with the trinkets and other items. If only Blizzard wasn't oblivious and actually created a valuable resource to contest.

[AzzarTheGod]

need help w/ that boot manager? pm me your number

its time melon. cough it up

[R Flair]

WoW was bland for sure, but it was popular for more than the name. The world was well crafted, the races the lore the combat was all well thought out and polished, but mechanically and feature-wise it was streamlined as can be. All that stuff made it great for the masses, but boring for real MMO fans.

[maskedmelon]

I started my Win7 install before I left this morning. Hopefully I get home and it ready to go :3 Crossing my fingers that once I install FFXI, that I can just drop my back up in and go without having to re-patch. Come to think of it, maybe I just straight up try to run that first. Yeah... Anyway, I let you know if I need help, J ^^

[georgie]

Is WoW cool? Never played it. Should I try Nostalrius or WoW live or neither?

Nost is cool, live is not

[big_ole_jpn]

I started my Win7 install before I left this morning. Hopefully I get home and it ready to go :3 Crossing my fingers that once I install FFXI, that I can just drop my back up in and go without having to re-patch. Come to think of it, maybe I just straight up try to run that first. Yeah... Anyway, I let you know if I need help, J ^^

Sounds promising. Don't forget the 4x .net installers, holla when you loggin in and ill bring my ape escape elf bod to cybor

[Daywolf]

WoW was bland for sure, but it was popular for more than the name. The world was well crafted, the races the lore the combat was all well thought out and polished, but mechanically and feature-wise it was streamlined as can be. All that stuff made it great for the masses, but boring for real MMO fans.

More than it's name, but it was a huge contributing factor.
1. millions of existing and active Blizzard fans before the launch of WoW.
2. multi-million dollar marketing campaign, and pitched as "popular" once they had those Blizzard fans in.
3. It wasn't a half-assed put together game. After all, they copied other games.

The Blizzard fan community was crying for years for an mmo, and when it came they embraced it no matter what, and since many of them hated our mmo's.

Not speaking of all that played WoW early on of course. I mean like I played Diablo 1 and 2 some, though pretty much stopped when UO was launched. Then played both UO and EQ1. Then oh my gosh, EQ, UO, EQ2, SWG, E&B, EVE, AO, PotBS, PS1, WWIIO, CoH, I had no time for WoW lol. Played like 4 months, hated it. That was like around the time of WotLK or whatever. I played Nost to get a better feel for early WoW, which was ok... but yeah, Live is the only mmo that literally LITerally put me to sleep at the keyboard. And I'm really not a dozer at all. I don;t literally go to sleep easy and am a serious light sleeper.

But anyway, the casual nature of later wow was just awful. And all the instant gratification bells and whistles. I don't consider myself a "hard-core" type, but certainly "core", while far from casual. I can't even play modern mmo's, they are just casual trash. Played Lotro early on, from closed beta (I rarely beta), but turned to casual crap later. I adored GW2, was awesome ...the first six months until they changed it to total casual crap. Stuck with it for a while but pffff, I watched it turn into nothing from a really good game, much like SWG.

Awards: UO for it's community. Especially on Pac which was the most populated server and we built a huge RP community of PvP'ers, over 1000 people strong, including game staff. Absolute wild-west days. SWG for it's overall contribution to gaming excellence, before they turned on us with CU. Then EQ with it's PvE brutality and overall charm. EVE probably for depth (daaaang the depth), though it's turning way too casual in recent years sadly. Then maybe PS1 for it's gripping pvp action. I will forever miss my Eagle BFR (mech).

WoW? Awarded for it's adverts hehehe
Just don't hang yourself in the closet after playing :D

[big_ole_jpn]

More than it's name, but it was a huge contributing factor.
1. millions of existing and active Blizzard fans before the launch of WoW.
2. multi-million dollar marketing campaign, and pitched as "popular" once they had those Blizzard fans in.
3. It wasn't a half-assed put together game. After all, they copied other games.

The Blizzard fan community was crying for years for an mmo, and when it came they embraced it no matter what, and since many of them hated our mmo's.

Not speaking of all that played WoW early on of course. I mean like I played Diablo 1 and 2 some, though pretty much stopped when UO was launched. Then played both UO and EQ1. Then oh my gosh, EQ, UO, EQ2, SWG, E&B, EVE, AO, PotBS, PS1, WWIIO, CoH, I had no time for WoW lol. Played like 4 months, hated it. That was like around the time of WotLK or whatever. I played Nost to get a better feel for early WoW, which was ok... but yeah, Live is the only mmo that literally LITerally put me to sleep at the keyboard. And I'm really not a dozer at all. I don;t literally go to sleep easy and am a serious light sleeper.

But anyway, the casual nature of later wow was just awful. And all the instant gratification bells and whistles. I don't consider myself a "hard-core" type, but certainly "core", while far from casual. I can't even play modern mmo's, they are just casual trash. Played Lotro early on, from closed beta (I rarely beta), but turned to casual crap later. I adored GW2, was awesome ...the first six months until they changed it to total casual crap. Stuck with it for a while but pffff, I watched it turn into nothing from a really good game, much like SWG.

Awards: UO for it's community. Especially on Pac which was the most populated server and we built a huge RP community of PvP'ers, over 1000 people strong, including game staff. Absolute wild-west days. SWG for it's overall contribution to gaming excellence, before they turned on us with CU. Then EQ with it's PvE brutality and overall charm. EVE probably for depth (daaaang the depth), though it's turning way too casual in recent years sadly. Then maybe PS1 for it's gripping pvp action. I will forever miss my Eagle BFR (mech).

WoW? Awarded for it's adverts hehehe
Just don't hang yourself in the closet after playing :D

did not read

[skarlorn]

More than it's name, but it was a huge contributing factor.
1. millions of existing and active Blizzard fans before the launch of WoW.
2. multi-million dollar marketing campaign, and pitched as "popular" once they had those Blizzard fans in.
3. It wasn't a half-assed put together game. After all, they copied other games.

The Blizzard fan community was crying for years for an mmo, and when it came they embraced it no matter what, and since many of them hated our mmo's.

Not speaking of all that played WoW early on of course. I mean like I played Diablo 1 and 2 some, though pretty much stopped when UO was launched. Then played both UO and EQ1. Then oh my gosh, EQ, UO, EQ2, SWG, E&B, EVE, AO, PotBS, PS1, WWIIO, CoH, I had no time for WoW lol. Played like 4 months, hated it. That was like around the time of WotLK or whatever. I played Nost to get a better feel for early WoW, which was ok... but yeah, Live is the only mmo that literally LITerally put me to sleep at the keyboard. And I'm really not a dozer at all. I don;t literally go to sleep easy and am a serious light sleeper.

But anyway, the casual nature of later wow was just awful. And all the instant gratification bells and whistles. I don't consider myself a "hard-core" type, but certainly "core", while far from casual. I can't even play modern mmo's, they are just casual trash. Played Lotro early on, from closed beta (I rarely beta), but turned to casual crap later. I adored GW2, was awesome ...the first six months until they changed it to total casual crap. Stuck with it for a while but pffff, I watched it turn into nothing from a really good game, much like SWG.

Awards: UO for it's community. Especially on Pac which was the most populated server and we built a huge RP community of PvP'ers, over 1000 people strong, including game staff. Absolute wild-west days. SWG for it's overall contribution to gaming excellence, before they turned on us with CU. Then EQ with it's PvE brutality and overall charm. EVE probably for depth (daaaang the depth), though it's turning way too casual in recent years sadly. Then maybe PS1 for it's gripping pvp action. I will forever miss my Eagle BFR (mech).

WoW? Awarded for it's adverts hehehe
Just don't hang yourself in the closet after playing :D

Another post by the town idiot. Didn't read.

[AzzarTheGod]

More than it's name, but it was a huge contributing factor.
1. millions of existing and active Blizzard fans before the launch of WoW.
2. multi-million dollar marketing campaign, and pitched as "popular" once they had those Blizzard fans in.
3. It wasn't a half-assed put together game. After all, they copied other games.

The Blizzard fan community was crying for years for an mmo, and when it came they embraced it no matter what, and since many of them hated our mmo's.

Not speaking of all that played WoW early on of course. I mean like I played Diablo 1 and 2 some, though pretty much stopped when UO was launched. Then played both UO and EQ1. Then oh my gosh, EQ, UO, EQ2, SWG, E&B, EVE, AO, PotBS, PS1, WWIIO, CoH, I had no time for WoW lol. Played like 4 months, hated it. That was like around the time of WotLK or whatever. I played Nost to get a better feel for early WoW, which was ok... but yeah, Live is the only mmo that literally LITerally put me to sleep at the keyboard. And I'm really not a dozer at all. I don;t literally go to sleep easy and am a serious light sleeper.

But anyway, the casual nature of later wow was just awful. And all the instant gratification bells and whistles. I don't consider myself a "hard-core" type, but certainly "core", while far from casual. I can't even play modern mmo's, they are just casual trash. Played Lotro early on, from closed beta (I rarely beta), but turned to casual crap later. I adored GW2, was awesome ...the first six months until they changed it to total casual crap. Stuck with it for a while but pffff, I watched it turn into nothing from a really good game, much like SWG.

Awards: UO for it's community. Especially on Pac which was the most populated server and we built a huge RP community of PvP'ers, over 1000 people strong, including game staff. Absolute wild-west days. SWG for it's overall contribution to gaming excellence, before they turned on us with CU. Then EQ with it's PvE brutality and overall charm. EVE probably for depth (daaaang the depth), though it's turning way too casual in recent years sadly. Then maybe PS1 for it's gripping pvp action. I will forever miss my Eagle BFR (mech).

WoW? Awarded for it's adverts hehehe
Just don't hang yourself in the closet after playing :D

Didn't read any WoW related posts.

[Daywolf]

did not read
um you R_Flair's alt now? Should I care if you read? >.>
<.<

I already have you down on mental note as no more than three paragraphs on a reply, along with AtG. At least you aren't on the "don't use big words" list :)

[Daywolf]

Oh heck, looking at it, that was really only three paragraphs... (+ list, summery and end joke'ish thingy)
Do I need to cut it down to less than three on your guyses reply from now on? I can use a big word to small word translator site if u needz :o
If that helpz too!

[big_ole_jpn]

um you R_Flair's alt now? Should I care if you read? >.>
<.<

I already have you down on mental note as no more than three paragraphs on a reply, along with AtG. At least you aren't on the "don't use big words" list :)
im willing to read more than 3 paragraphs of something entertaining

study my real players of p99 true life cucking story or a melon post

[maskedmelon]

omg, drivers and all kinds of LAME. Things working ok now, but my old install didn't work. Good news is Ashita opens just fine, it just won't let me login or even launch FFXI. So now i am re-installing FFXI.

[Daywolf]

im willing to read more than 3 paragraphs of something entertaining

study my real players of p99 true life cucking story or a melon post
Hmm? That's more of a personal attack, I mean how do you know if you don't read any of it? I generally only payback in kind, or over overly dumb repetitive trollings. Though maybe Poke being the exception for certain reasons.

Yeah, so you're willing to read more than 3 paragraphs if you write them? Good to know :)
u 1 uped atg lol

[big_ole_jpn]

Hmm? That's more of a personal attack, I mean how do you know if you don't read any of it? I generally only payback in kind, or over overly dumb repetitive trollings. Though maybe Poke being the exception for certain reasons.

Yeah, so you're willing to read more than 3 paragraphs if you write them? Good to know :)
u 1 uped atg lol

You aren't gonna trick me into reading that wall o text to confirm it's boring. I see through your strategy big boi.

[maskedmelon]

and.... updating PoL. How long did this take last night? I don't remember and am beginning to despair.

[big_ole_jpn]

the repair part is what took me a long time, the update was not bad

(and i was installing it on an old shitbox laptop)

[maskedmelon]

made it to the file check! woooo!

[maskedmelon]

Well, looks like 5.5hours left to repair :c guess I gonna go to sleep.

[Odann]

It's interesting to see people hate on WoW who probably really love EQ.

One thing that WoW absolutely perfected that EQ did not was the seamless world. Each continent is 100% seamless except for the dungeons which are obviously instanced. That was WoW's only flaw for EQ fans. If you could somehow combine the two you would have the absolute perfect MMO. 100% seamless world without zoning and open world dungeons.

Not sure a game like that will ever be made.

[Swish]

It's interesting to see people hate on WoW who probably really love EQ.

One thing that WoW absolutely perfected that EQ did not was the seamless world. Each continent is 100% seamless except for the dungeons which are obviously instanced. That was WoW's only flaw for EQ fans. If you could somehow combine the two you would have the absolute perfect MMO. 100% seamless world without zoning and open world dungeons.

Not sure a game like that will ever be made.

I'd agree. I understand instances but it was nice to make players interact to the extent EQ does/did.

[AzzarTheGod]

Not sure a game like that will ever be made.

:rolleyes: it was called Vanguard get a clue.

[Odann]

:rolleyes: it was called Vanguard get a clue.

Oh you mean the game that was butchered from launch, riddled with bugs, and had non-working dungeons/raids then became a ghost-town in less than a year? Yeah I played that game. It was a true testament to Brads brain on drugs.

Solid game.

[maskedmelon]

http://i.imgur.com/aB0ES16.png

[maskedmelon]

Gonna be out for a bit today, but I bbl and rdy to go! ^^

[Tankdan]

whats the ETA on this server going live?

[Daywolf]

It's interesting to see people hate on WoW who probably really love EQ.
Who said anything about hate? ...unless you are talking about wow after the vanilla era, I know some hate that. But that's mostly people that invested all their time into it to have some emotional response once they changed the game so much to something else they didn't like. Me, I just think wow isn't so great and that modern wow is really sub-par. I mean I had more fun playing Meridian 59 that feels more like EQ than wow ever did.

Oh, I do hate the fact that so many publishers/devs tried to clone it into new and existing mmo's. That was a mistake and really screwed up the mmo genre. Has to do with investors and big $$$ in their eyes looking at wow revenue. But, a good thing for indies, those that wanted to be different just because of the real art of game making.

[R Flair]

More than it's name, but it was a huge contributing factor.
1. millions of existing and active Blizzard fans before the launch of WoW.
2. multi-million dollar marketing campaign, and pitched as "popular" once they had those Blizzard fans in.
3. It wasn't a half-assed put together game. After all, they copied other games.

The Blizzard fan community was crying for years for an mmo, and when it came they embraced it no matter what, and since many of them hated our mmo's.

Not speaking of all that played WoW early on of course. I mean like I played Diablo 1 and 2 some, though pretty much stopped when UO was launched. Then played both UO and EQ1. Then oh my gosh, EQ, UO, EQ2, SWG, E&B, EVE, AO, PotBS, PS1, WWIIO, CoH, I had no time for WoW lol. Played like 4 months, hated it. That was like around the time of WotLK or whatever. I played Nost to get a better feel for early WoW, which was ok... but yeah, Live is the only mmo that literally LITerally put me to sleep at the keyboard. And I'm really not a dozer at all. I don;t literally go to sleep easy and am a serious light sleeper.

But anyway, the casual nature of later wow was just awful. And all the instant gratification bells and whistles. I don't consider myself a "hard-core" type, but certainly "core", while far from casual. I can't even play modern mmo's, they are just casual trash. Played Lotro early on, from closed beta (I rarely beta), but turned to casual crap later. I adored GW2, was awesome ...the first six months until they changed it to total casual crap. Stuck with it for a while but pffff, I watched it turn into nothing from a really good game, much like SWG.

Awards: UO for it's community. Especially on Pac which was the most populated server and we built a huge RP community of PvP'ers, over 1000 people strong, including game staff. Absolute wild-west days. SWG for it's overall contribution to gaming excellence, before they turned on us with CU. Then EQ with it's PvE brutality and overall charm. EVE probably for depth (daaaang the depth), though it's turning way too casual in recent years sadly. Then maybe PS1 for it's gripping pvp action. I will forever miss my Eagle BFR (mech).

WoW? Awarded for it's adverts hehehe
Just don't hang yourself in the closet after playing :D

We mostly agree. I'd say 30% of WoWs success was from the fact that they were a known company (Blizzard). After that, 30% was because it was by far, the most polished MMO to ever be launched. Most of the previous were fairly clunky, even for their time. The last 20% was the massive marketing, followed by a somewhat fun game.

The actual fun game factor was actually it's least winning trait. My personal theory is that the reason "vanilla" is so popular today, is because it was closer to a virtual world (like EQ). Early MMOs didn't feel like games, they felt you were actually transported to a different world. I believe immersion is the primary element that sucks people into an MMO and keeps them coming back. Because it's such a hard concept to understand and reproduce for most developers, I believe this is why we've seen this steady stream of uninspired games which have no problem dispensing with the suspension of disbelief in favor of some trite feature that makes everything easier.

[Grubbz]

Stress test for elysium/nost is tomorrow night.

[Pumpedup]

unless they allow boxing and exp isnt 1x ill pass and let the unemployeds shit it up

[Swish]

1x brings in the RMT money tho, they're not stupid at Nost HQ.

[AzzarTheGod]

Nost is ready to make money 1X style

[TacoSmasher]

leveling at x1 xp is really hard in vanilla wow.

making gold was really hard on a 13k pop server

[maskedmelon]

J, Angush, will you 2 let me know what your names are on FFXI so I can finds you? I started in San d'Oria.

[big_ole_jpn]

J, Angush, will you 2 let me know what your names are on FFXI so I can finds you? I started in San d'Oria.

name Japan.

i'm gonna hop on now!

[AzzarTheGod]

n when it's time to pop they a no-show

[NegaStoat]

Zero (0) point to Valkyrie's new promotion of the Nostalrius servers being restored and launched. The Chinese farmer accounts will be enabled as well and the moment the project starts showing signs of a large population, it all goes to crap just like it did last time.

Kronos took a stand and banned the use of VPN's & Proxies so mainland Chinese players would be stopped cold. Originally, exemptions were given to specific Chinese guilds that swore they were after PvE / PvP goals like everyone else, but those were revoked after numerous exploits and evidence of farming / account leveling / pvp ranking for cash.

I get that it's harsh to point the finger at one geographic location as a source of a critical problem for a server's health, but you had to PLAY on old Nostalrius from about 5 months before its close until the last day to get an insight as to what was really going on. It was filthy.

[Swish]

China #1... they can still enjoy H1Z1 :p

[AzzarTheGod]

China #1... they can still enjoy H1Z1 :p

what happened to H1Z1 did they plug it?

[Swish]

naw you just hear those fuckers in the Battle Royale lobbies, that's all they say...

China #1
China #1

Worst thing is when you get one on a team game. Usually useless and don't understand English.

[Angushjalmur]

Taiwan numbah waaan

[Pumpedup]

i like the chinese gold farm bots, they were easy kills and ran right back to die again

you can literally sit right there and wait for them, soon as they get their corpses they run right to a mob to try to kill it

[Wiley]

How many servers will there be?

There will be an estimated 3 servers running the Nostalrius core; 2 PvP Realms and 1 PvE Realm.

PvE realm? aww yiss

also FFXI was amazing, 53 RDM/WHM long since retired from Ramuh, would try the emulator but I like going outside sometimes.

[Angushjalmur]

PvE realm? aww yiss

also FFXI was amazing, 53 RDM/WHM long since retired from Ramuh, would try the emulator but I like going outside sometimes.

There are lots of outside zones in ffxi

Consider nasomi pal

[Wiley]

There are lots of outside zones in ffxi

Consider nasomi pal

Not sure I could handle that grind again, makes p99 exp look like Legion exp

[Angushjalmur]

Not sure I could handle that grind again, makes p99 exp look like Legion exp

Nah, p99 xp is way slower than classic ffxi xp

[Pumpedup]

nasomi server is run by an epic weirdo

i played on project darkstar for a long while, much better server but FFXIV Killed it

[Angushjalmur]

nasomi server is run by an epic weirdo

i played on project darkstar for a long while, much better server but FFXIV Killed it

Nasomi is a good guy and a real man

Darkstar is for easy mode casual fgts

[Pumpedup]

ask to see a pic of his wife

he purchased a underage asian girl because he is a hentai anime weirdo who is obcessed with japanese shit

[azeth]

Yeah but can I play my beloved Anguskhan, tauren warior again?

Anguskahn was a name used by a close friend of mine growing up in Massachusetts. Weird

[Pumpedup]

nobody cares about the adventures of your friend the gay tauren warrior

[Angushjalmur]

ask to see a pic of his wife

he purchased a underage asian girl because he is a hentai anime weirdo who is obcessed with japanese shit
I've seen his wife. Sounds like you're mad that you don't have a cute japanese wife though tbh
Anguskahn was a name used by a close friend of mine growing up in Massachusetts. Weird

Weird indeed. Not me, though. I'm not a yank

[georgie]

leveling at x1 xp is really hard in vanilla wow.

making gold was really hard on a 13k pop server

3 to 4 China men on every route or hot spot

[Angushjalmur]

Paging melon and jippon

get on nasomi if you want a pearl, im just sitting here LFG at the moment

[maskedmelon]

http://i.imgur.com/lJxIkRZ.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

The avatars are shit but the world textures n color are nice

[maskedmelon]

Disagree, melon & me both hot af ingame

truth

J, hotter though :c

[Angushjalmur]

You got better bare midriff, I got better hair. I think it's a pretty tight race.

I'd wife ya ;)

still havent seen you in game fgt

[maskedmelon]

You got better bare midriff, I got better hair. I think it's a pretty tight race.

I'd wife ya ;)

Awww (*^^*)

I got L6 tonight! :3

[Angushjalmur]

melon dont tell me you got to lvl 6 without a weapon equipepd

[maskedmelon]

No I have a sword. I think it is an ONINON KNIFE ^^

[Angushjalmur]

when i first played, i didnt realize japanese use onion the way americans would use lemon

as in ' the car was a lemon'

not in french soups

[maskedmelon]

when i first played, i didnt realize japanese use onion the way americans would use lemon

as in ' the car was a lemon'

not in french soups

I've never heard that lol ^^ Where did you hear that? Or you just making fun of my ONION SWORD :3?

[georgie]

Them some 2nd life graphics

[R Flair]

I think FFXI graphics have aged excellently. When you boost everything up to high res, I was actually pretty impressed. Best graphics from mmos of that time but the world, characters and backstory all seem pretty shallow and uninspired next to EQ which was unparalleled in regard to it's environmental storytelling.

[maskedmelon]

I think FFXI graphics have aged excellently. When you boost everything up to high res, I was actually pretty impressed. Best graphics from mmos of that time but the world, characters and backstory all seem pretty shallow and uninspired next to EQ which was unparalleled in regard to it's environmental storytelling.

Yeah, they pretty good. Only disappointment is that char creation models look quite a lot different from game models :c Not sure I understand that.

[Angushjalmur]

I've never heard that lol ^^ Where did you hear that? Or you just making fun of my ONION SWORD :3?

From the nifty fact section of ffxiclopedia :V

[Angushjalmur]

I think FFXI graphics have aged excellently. When you boost everything up to high res, I was actually pretty impressed. Best graphics from mmos of that time but the world, characters and backstory all seem pretty shallow and uninspired next to EQ which was unparalleled in regard to it's environmental storytelling.

Bleh bluh dragons shit norrath into existence, then there were some fairies, rallos was like fuck yall, and erudites wuz kangs, so go grind orc camps

novel quality story there

[Angushjalmur]

ur being gay. eq has really cool lore embedded in hails and zone drops. This post was you quoting the tacked-on cinematic pretty much.

ur being more gay by giving up on ffxi because you didnt change your UI, son

stop doing but stuff and hit the options my dude, theres glory to be had

[R Flair]

Bleh bluh dragons shit norrath into existence, then there were some fairies, rallos was like fuck yall, and erudites wuz kangs, so go grind orc camps

novel quality story there

You have to look closer. It's not just the backstory as they tell it in a cinematic or any one source, it was the fact that everything had a purpose in the world. They didn't just throw everything together, there was a lot of forethought down to many of the smallest details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfjLnTrg0Vo

here is a good compendium of just a handful and just a drop in the proverbial bucket. Sorry, but ffxi was not even close to this level.

[Angushjalmur]

Im just giving him a hard time, rick. I like the lore in EQ

However, good lore alone does not a good game make.

[AzzarTheGod]

You have to look closer. It's not just the backstory as they tell it in a cinematic or any one source, it was the fact that everything had a purpose in the world. They didn't just throw everything together, there was a lot of forethought down to many of the smallest details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfjLnTrg0Vo

here is a good compendium of just a handful and just a drop in the proverbial bucket. Sorry, but ffxi was not even close to this level.

5 star post although I love reading about Nasomi a lot.

EQ had some meticulous sperglords working on itemization and lore and meshing the two together. EQ (considering the shitty 6 million budget) was quite ambitious.

You could never milk that level of work out of a person in 2016 (Because Sonny said "The working man is a sucker" ).

You have to have people who actually care about the project and a relatively small team working towards the same vision.

[R Flair]

5 star post although I love reading about Nasomi a lot.

EQ had some meticulous sperglords working on itemization and lore and meshing the two together. EQ (considering the shitty 6 million budget) was quite ambitious.

You could never milk that level of work out of a person in 2016 (Because Sonny said "The working man is a sucker" ).

You have to have people who actually care about the project and a relatively small team working towards the same vision.

This is why I think teams like the one making Pantheon are the only hope MMOs have of ever being worth playing again. They are spergelords like us who often love and obsess over those little things, that will take pride in their work and make a game that sucks the player into the world. Immersion is a hellova drug.

[R Flair]

If there was a way to completely overhaul your UI and a way to effectively use keyboard and mouse, I could probably be convinced to try ffxi again.

As is, I tried all the addons and tweaks and couldn't get it to where it felt comfortable. Would have endured if I felt like it was worth it, but I just couldn't justify the headache.

Shame it wasn't completely moddable like EQ. I'd of loved to make a UI that was more practical, while keeping in the spirit of final fantasy.

[Angushjalmur]

I use keyboard and mouse just fine. Lots of hotkeys and such

The only addons i use are the distance display for spells and ranged attacks, and recast so I can see my timers

The UI could definitely be better, but it works imo

[maskedmelon]

http://i.imgur.com/7d0SJoV.jpg

I wanna get working towards some new items, what the best way to do that? R mentioned that there is um, some quests or something?

[maskedmelon]

at low levels in sandoria area farm rabbits for hides and sheepskins

you can make the skins into leather and when leatherworking guild opens sometimes its heavily stocked

you can sell a stack of sheep leather for quite a bit then just buy a fire sword on AH if there is one

dont use daggers till 33 when you get vipir bite, assuming your a thief.

oh okk, so I should keep the rabit hides? I was selling them to a merchant for 120gil per 3 >:)

When will I meet sheep? I should like this very much.

[R Flair]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fqtype=Mission

Every city has missions. I don't really remember how it works exactly, I just remember there's a cool progression of quests that are based on your level. Each tier you unlock new armors. To earn currency to buy them once unlocked, you have to slay with that city's buff on you which is given by the same guard who offers the items and quest (it's usually right next to the city gates) Sometimes the armors are better from another city, in which case you probably want to buy the pieces you need.

There are also a lot of random quests scattered throughout the cities. You should look up items. I ended up suiting myself up almost entirely with quests from cities and mission gear.

[maskedmelon]

ohhhhh ok. I'll keep my hides then to process and check out those quests R mentioned. ty both ^^

[maskedmelon]

:3

http://i.imgur.com/0z5bDcq.jpg

[georgie]

ill be there

[Trajor]

Transfer details were released yesterday and transfers started today
https://www.elysium-project.org/news/transfer-details

Step by step guide:
http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=44988


Two warnings that are currently causing lots of users issues:
Email verification is working for Gmail and Hotmail, but not for Yahoo (and possibly AOL)
Do NOT skip a step and do NOT generate a token before your Elysium account has email verified, or else your characters will get stuck in an 'already copied' state.

[skarlorn]

i actually have very little desire to re-grind vanilla wow

maybe the sickness CAN fade away

[Grubbz]

Will be playing an undead lock on the pve realm tomorrow.

[Sinadin]

I may have missed it, but why are they allowed to reopen again? thought the servers have to be shutdowned due to Blizzard

[Nibblewitz]

Because the servers are now in Russia, and not in France.

[burkemi5]

Server opens noon est today aka 20ish minutes.

[Grubbz]

Hit me up on the horde side, pve server.

IGN: Apros

[SamwiseRed]

lol pve

[Priceline]

lol pve

Can anyone translate this? I don't speak "mental capacity of a young man just learning to masterbate and/or internet troll"

[katrik]

Queue is very long, but server seems stable.

[Breeziyo]

Can anyone translate this? I don't speak "mental capacity of a young man just learning to masterbate and/or internet troll"

ppl who cling to wow wpvp are ppl who never cut it in arena

pve server has the comfiest population #s

pve server a best

[SamwiseRed]

instanced pvp (lol)

[Computer Man]

instanced pvp (lol)

That really is pvp with boundaries. You'll never experience having some guy jumping you unexpectedly and being able to kill him first (sometimes without losing much health)...world pvp makes you a better pvper.

Arena pvp just makes you better at hiding behind line of sight obstacles.

[burkemi5]

So I wanted to play this but am giving it a few day/ weeks. How was lag? How were queues?

[Computer Man]

Wait on the new server imo

[Wiley]

only 3300 people in queue ahead of me

[burkemi5]

only 3300 people in queue ahead of me

Yikes. How long will that take? Hours?

[Priceline]

real pvp (\o/)

FTFY, only pvp that matters is in a BG and/or arena. wpvp is only for ritalin chewing kiddies.

competitive team pvp > wpvp horsecack

[NegaStoat]

It's a lost cause. If a WoW private server intends to be successful, they have to block all VPN & Proxy use. Mainland China players rely on those to evade the Great Firewall. The staff at Valkyrie won't do this so the new Nostalirus currently looks like this in the battlegrounds.

http://imgur.com/XU7aMLC

Both NA and Russian players are in the minority for the population, which gives us a hilarious server economy future.

[SamwiseRed]

world pvp is just some half naked orc trying to do tiger mastery while a level 60 keeps killing him

AV / AB is instanced pvp and is great

should be close to all blues by the time you hit stv (30ish) if you ran a few dungeons.