Faction hits for flurry and ntov drake guards too high

[Sallan]

There was a thread about this sometime ago but I can't seem to find it. Currently NToV guard drakes and flurries faction hits are too high, akin to a dragon kill. They should be a whole lot lower.

I believe there was sufficient proof and research done in the other thread raised if someone can find it and link. Makes it difficult to farm flurries atm with a faction hit this high

[Slathar]

this is wrong. did you parse it?

[Sallan]

Found the post - described here:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2047706&postcount=25

Also more details from that post itself:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Daldaen View Post
Yea you're right Endonde. I listed them incorrectly in there. The real flurries are the ones I list as trash minis.

But the point stands.

All dragon drake guards should be -50 CoV
All raid dragons should be -500 CoV
Everything else should be -10 CoV
Bump.

I was Kindly to CoV last night. I took a single faction hit from an NToV dragon guard (which my live logs show to be a -50 hit) and I dropped to apprehensively. Suggesting the P99 values are actually at a minimum of -500 faction.

Can we get this fixed? ToV is destroying faction way faster than it should be just doing trash clears.

Any dragon guard (2 at the Lords/Ladies/Aary, 4 at Eashen and 6 at Vulak) - Should be a -50 CoV hit
Any Flurry drake or trash mob should be a -10 CoV hit
Any named raid mob (all with FTE messages) should be a -500 CoV hit

Currently the dragon guards and flurry drakes/trash mobs have hugely inflated faction values.
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[Sallan]

Basically the NToV guards and flurry drakes are dropping faction considerably when their hits should be in the 10's and 50's

[Sallan]

Originally Posted by Daldaen View Post
I did some faction testing in North ToV yesterday, the values we have on P99 do not match the NToV ones.


Trash minis:

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:06 2015] You have slain Yrrindor Emerald Claw!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:06 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:24 2015] You have slain Quellod Earthspirit!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:24 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:23 2015] You have slain Kalkar of the Maelstrom!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:23 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:39 2015] You have slain Zyerek Onyxblood!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:39 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:55 2015] You have slain Cyndor Lightningfang!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:55 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

Flurry Drakes:

[Wed Sep 02 19:56:10 2015] You have slain Lurian!
[Wed Sep 02 19:56:10 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 19:56:45 2015] You have slain Hsrek!
[Wed Sep 02 19:56:45 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:40 2015] You have slain Mazrien!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:40 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] You have slain Gra`Vloren!
[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:08 2015] You have slain Nir`Tan!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:08 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] You have slain Nelaarn the Ebon Claw!



On P99 we killed 2 Flurry drakes and 2 trash mobs (-120 CoV), this dropped some people from Ally to Amiable. That should not happen, most of the time you shouldn't even drop out of Ally, at a max Warmly.


If the faction values could be revised to match the live values that would be fantastic!


The ones above should be the correct values adjusted for NToV drake guards and flurry drakes

[Sallan]

Bump

[Sallan]

Bump

[Dolalin]

Starting to think there's now a dev policy of just not touching the endgame zones for any reason, no matter how well documented or trivial. If that's the case then P99 is pretty much 'done'.

[Caiu]

I would hope that the current hits from live are not deemed sufficient without some corroborating evidence from that era.

[Sallan]

I would hope that the current hits from live are not deemed sufficient without some corroborating evidence from that era.

That may be, but outside of live faction hits it's almost impossible to get legacy posts corroborating faction hits and amounts for these mobs back then (outside of what folks recall).

In any case nilbog has reviewed live values and adjusted them before, case in point the post below:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2053939&postcount=26

[Dolalin]

If there's no hard data either way (which I think is the current situation), the Live values should take precedence, since I can't see why they would have changed.

[Sallan]

Bump

[Dolalin]

This is a really easy faction change.

[Erati]

bump now that witness healing is fixed we need faction fixed to be in line with the right amounts from Live

[Daldaen]

Bump. This is more relevant now that guilds may find themselves clearing a few trash more trash mobs and Flurry Drakes than they were previously.

[Victorio]

Bumpety bump

[Dentalplan]

Bump, plenty of evidence to warrant a fix here.

[Crom]

bump, can we please get this fixed, seems like an easy fix

[Daldaen]

Should fix the Wakening Lands Giants faction hits to go along with this fix. For WAY too long have P99ers easymode CoV factioned in WL getting non-classic hits. The frost Giants should all be 1 faction for CoV out there per kill, even the named.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2159147&postcount=40

[Crom]

Should fix the Wakening Lands Giants faction hits to go along with this fix. For WAY too long have P99ers easymode CoV factioned in WL getting non-classic hits. The frost Giants should all be 1 faction for CoV out there per kill, even the named.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2159147&postcount=40

but +10 and +5 hits for coldain on the outdoor ones

[Telin]

Fixed, pending update.

[Dolalin]

WL giants too, Telrin?

P.S. thanks for being a classic bro.

[Telin]

WL giants too, Telrin?

P.S. thanks for being a classic bro.

Yes, updated WL giants, Kael quest giants, and some raid dragons in TOV whose faction hits weren't severe enough.

[Dolalin]

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