Westworld (2016 Fall Schedule - HBO Premium Series) [Archive]

AzzarTheGod

10-09-2016, 03:59 PM

They spent 100 million dollars on Westworld for 10 episodes, which is exactly the same budget as Game of Thrones has maintained throughout its history (10 million dollars an episode). Which is the most money HBO has ever spent on a series.

Its supposed to capture the Game of Thrones fan space on HBO as their premium flagship series for this Fall 2016 Season schedule.

The cast is star-studded, all big names-- and a lot of award-winners from the silverscreen.

It looks good, lot of social commentary, lot of woke factor, and I really like the leads and the casting so far.

The second episode of the season is tonight. Get on board while its still early is my advice. If not just to see how well this does (HBO does not spend GoT money on just "anything", the series Rome was cancelled because of its 2 million and episode cost, for example) so this was a serious financial risk for them but they were willing to take it since they are flush with cash from the success of GoT).

Have you guys seen it?

nilbog

10-09-2016, 04:02 PM

I liked the original movie. Hope the show is successful.

AzzarTheGod

10-09-2016, 05:13 PM

The writing and symbolism is really heavy. The Shakespeare references are off the charts, even when not being quoted by a character.

http://i.imgur.com/qAf7T6r.gif

Ep 1. the milk scene you might write off as just bullshit, but nope, another Shakespeare reference and nod to sexual awakening/consciousness/birth/heterosexuality.

http://i.imgur.com/ZQfnrQH.gif

I had to watch the episode twice to start picking up on things. And even then, I required some internet reading for an interpretation of the show itself.

Its a lot like the "True Detective" series in that sense, where watching just the show alone doesn't really seem to get you the entire experience of what you are seeing visually or a complete understanding.

But on the surface, you could just say its blood and boobs. Pretty smart series and I am impressed so far, something for everyone it appears. Definitely seems intent on delivering on its budget.

If others are watching it, I'll highlight some of the character traits you wouldn't pick up on just by watching the show.

http://i.imgur.com/C2Pj9dl.jpg

The Man In Black for example, there's way more to him than just some asshole. He is an extremely wealthy asshole, spending 40,000 dollars a day for the past 30 years straight to visit the park and he has realized and become suspicious the ownership is hiding something. He intends to get his money's worth.

http://i.imgur.com/gVtKjzw.png

His interaction with Delores reveals that he seems to have acquired a particular set of skills. He could be a former employee or an old disgruntled investor at this point, as he seems to be able to imprint memories onto Delores despite the daily wipes, over his 30 year history. We found out Delores is about that old at the end of Episode 1.

He also kicks OG knowledge to the robots, possibly exerting an influence over them throughout his 30 years. http://i.imgur.com/3GeINc4.png

big_ole_jpn

10-09-2016, 05:41 PM

i thought this was about futuristic pleasure robots but all the screenshots are ugly old ppl in a western

mickmoranis

10-09-2016, 05:46 PM

Ep 1 doesnt grab you like most modern TV shows, but I like its multilayered depressing science fiction style more than most TV shows so I am ready for this brave new world.

AzzarTheGod

10-09-2016, 05:48 PM

For the Big J inclined, theres that Xerxes guy from 300. Is that young enough?

http://i.imgur.com/nrfgLaL.jpg

And probably the hottest Armenian chick ever. Kim Kardashian who??????

http://i.imgur.com/oM1QIDV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BVX14nd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/84hmdaF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rxk9eJk.jpg

^ is that real life?

http://i.imgur.com/xqEtusz.jpg

AzzarTheGod

10-09-2016, 06:08 PM

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AzzarTheGod

10-09-2016, 06:11 PM

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AzzarTheGod

10-09-2016, 06:13 PM

Ep 1 doesnt grab you like most modern TV shows, but I like its multilayered depressing science fiction style more than most TV shows so I am ready for this brave new world.

Its both intelligent enough, and dumb enough, to hold its audience. That's what premium cable brings to the table. Its got the blood and boobs aesthetic for the ADHD's and its got the multilayers and intelligent writing for the rest of us.

I think it should find an audience. But it could have used a little more pizazz in the pilot episode.

I like the female lead at the management, the Dutch actress there.

skarlorn

10-09-2016, 06:58 PM

make it easy for me to watch this (less than 2 clicks) and i'll make u a nice comment

mickmoranis

10-09-2016, 08:25 PM

Its both intelligent enough, and dumb enough, to hold its audience. That's what premium cable brings to the table. Its got the blood and boobs aesthetic for the ADHD's and its got the multilayers and intelligent writing for the rest of us.

I think it should find an audience. But it could have used a little more pizazz in the pilot episode.

I like the female lead at the management, the Dutch actress there.

nice thing about HBO is if it doesnt grab an audience, they dont give any shits and will keep it running for 6 years regardless.. What I love about them.

Daywolf

10-09-2016, 08:33 PM

make it easy for me to watch this (less than 2 clicks) and i'll make u a nice comment
All TV/cable shows pretty much suck! Ok you can post something nice now.

AzzarTheGod

10-09-2016, 10:31 PM

All TV/cable shows pretty much suck! Ok you can post something nice now.

Losing

big_ole_jpn

10-09-2016, 10:35 PM

make it easy for me to watch this (less than 2 clicks) and i'll make u a nice comment

Ahldagor

10-09-2016, 11:49 PM

AzzarTheGod

10-10-2016, 12:23 AM

Waiting until episode 3 comes out to watch. Do all 3 in a row then I'll have the plot, characters, and the three most likely conclusions for the season. From there, if it's entertaining enough, then I'll finish it.

Daywolf lost hard with that. No hbo money I'm guessing.

^ Woke method.

Its a really woke show too. Hard to take your eyes off Anthony Hopkins when he's on screen.

I think you will like it, but it all depends on your tastes. If you're a fan of woke I think you'll be a fan of this.

Ahldagor

10-10-2016, 01:45 AM

^ Woke method.

Its a really woke show too. Hard to take your eyes off Anthony Hopkins when he's on screen.

I think you will like it, but it all depends on your tastes. If you're a fan of woke I think you'll be a fan of this.

Hopkins is a draw for me. The cast all around looks solid.

AzzarTheGod

10-10-2016, 03:13 AM

Hopkins is a draw for me. The cast all around looks solid.

In for a treat as far as his character goes, as they have given him a role that is essentially written for him.

There are a lot of characters, and the cast is obviously star-studded as you referenced, so unfortunately this isn't quite Hopkins-centric, but its been nothing but Keanu reeves >Woah.jpeg< when he's onscreen.

Ed Harris has also been delivering a fair amount of woke (really there's no better word I can think of to describe the social commentary being doled out here by both of these guys). Great casting for Ed Harris he was born to play the role.

Again I'll restate, sometimes you have to rewatch to get the full effect, and also to fully absorb the plot details and the technical details that are being doled out. The exposition is extremely quick and if you tune out a sentence or word, you tend to miss plot development details.

But its still able to be comfortably watched as an idiot.

One thing that sticks out, there are many many blanks in character development that aren't necessarily critical, but would be nice to know for development reasons. Its a True Detective Season 2-esque vibe where the character development had to be filled in by websites that have obviously been handed promo package by HBO to assist the viewers so they could fully appreciate the storyline and what you are seeing in the pilot episode.

That is where it may fail to grab a less than core audience, casual viewers aren't going to hit the websites to get character details. And despite all the action and the blood and boobs angle, as mickmoranis inferred earlier with his depressive sci-fi comment, this is an absolutely character-driven series.

xKoopa

10-11-2016, 08:57 AM

Good call on this one ATG, show is lookin real swole so far

R Flair

10-11-2016, 09:04 AM

First episode was mediocre. They need to step it up if they are spending GoT money. Elsewise id rather them just put it towards the last 2 seasons and make them truly epic.

Spyder73

10-11-2016, 11:37 AM

Anything that Azzar is hard selling like this I am immediately skeptical of, however my roommate says this show is good. I have not sat down and watched a full episode yet myself. I have them recording on the DVR though. But I also still have 9 episodes of Fear of the Walking Dead that I need to catch up on while maintaining Gotham, The Strain, Raw/SmackDown, American Horror Story, The Exorcist, Southpark, and my many other shows that are starting soon.

AzzarTheGod

10-11-2016, 04:42 PM

Anything that Azzar is hard selling like this I am immediately skeptical of.

Unwoke post

AzzarTheGod

10-12-2016, 04:18 AM

First episode was mediocre. They need to step it up if they are spending GoT money. Elsewise id rather them just put it towards the last 2 seasons and make them truly epic.

Second episode was woke. Hopkins dunked on that dude so hard and he wasn't even trying, it was just tough love.

Pretty much any time he's on screen someone can get dunked on by a wokequake (similar to an intellectual earthquake)

Also the new characters they introduced are great. Love the juxtapose of the two friends, one thrill seeker, one is obviously just a nerd. Many people here can relate to that storyline, as we've been on at least one side of that arrangement before. It was thrilling to watch him go through the tests and temptations of the wild west.

Everyone is either the less cool, or less inclined pleasure seeker out of the 2 friends at some point in their lives. No 2 friends are ever completely on the same page.

I liked that dichotomy.

R Flair

10-12-2016, 04:32 AM

rofl Wokequake. That will be the name of my next mmo character.

Spyder73

10-12-2016, 08:21 AM

Watched both episodes last night - I give the Wu'Tang seal of approval

entruil

10-13-2016, 01:41 PM

I watched first episode before I read post. Azz Gj with well layed out posts...

I kept thinking of it as a "Programmer's Nightmare" show as i was watching it... like it was a sequel to the movie about the AI experiment and the dude gets out and is actor Tony in the future... (well that reads like crap but immuh leave it)

sidenote - Spyder spotted at WSOP...

AzzarTheGod

10-17-2016, 03:23 AM

Thrilling episode. Show is fucking delivering on the adventure/thrills, was definitely edge-of-seat tonight. The whole robot thing doesn't matter, and that indicates some amazing producers, writers, and direction at work.

I'm impressed. This concept had the potential to be complete shit in the wrong hands.

And Anthony Hopkins character is in full bloom, development wise, after those scenes in Ep. 3. Just when we thought he could take a backseat. He's all of a sudden "hands-on" with what amounts to direct orders being given to the "doctor". Interesting angle being setup between creator, management, and the doctor at this point.

Luke Hemsworth is fleshed out at this point as the quintessential muscle.

I'd like to see more development on the manager chick at some point, hopefully the affair that the doctor is having with the manager isn't the only angle she's in. With writing this good so far, I doubt she's going to waste.

Borak

10-17-2016, 05:49 AM

I figured it would be a good show. Jonathan Nolan with an HBO budget and no network restrictions? Hell yeah.

This is the guy that tricked CBS into thinking they were getting a regular cop show with Person of Interest. Sure, a lot of the early episodes were self-contained bad-guy-of-the-week episodes, but he laid the seeds for what became a science-fiction show with a central arc of emerging sentient AIs and their conflict with each other, while touching on topics such as the debate between deontological vs. utilitarian codes of ethics and The Great Filter (http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html) by way of Fermi's Paradox, among other things.

The cool part is, that Person of Interest never used the old trope of mentioning a scientific term, having a character say 'English please', and then explaining the term. He trusted that the audience was intelligent enough to figure things out, and didn't dumb things down for the audience. This has continued into Westworld.

(For those that watched a few early episodes of PoI and got bored, check out S02E21 and S02E22 - the final two episodes of Season 2 - where it becomes apparent to everyone in the main cast that Finch's Machine is actually alive.)

So yeah, Jonathan Nolan actually getting to tell the story he wants to tell with a higher budget can only be a good thing.

AzzarTheGod

10-24-2016, 01:02 AM

Good post Borak. I wasn't familiar with Nolan specifically, but I'm very familiar with Person of Interest.

Latest episode continued to deliver. Wonder how ratings are?

AzzarTheGod

10-31-2016, 06:33 AM

ayyy woke again. show proven well worth the budget after the last 2 episodes.

xKoopa

11-07-2016, 11:49 AM

That boy teddy poppin off tho

Lots of interesting things going on

FatMice

11-07-2016, 11:58 AM

This show is absolutely fantastic. Some of the writing is top notch and then other times it's like wtf? Love the story lines, love the timeless setting, amazing details on the clothing and set design. If you haven't already, check out this show!

Barkingturtle

11-07-2016, 12:05 PM

Spyder73

11-07-2016, 12:31 PM

Usually love HBO's offerings. Rome, Oz and Deadwood are among my favorites.

But Westworld is not really grabbing me. It's two parts middling sci-fi and one part terrible Western. Haven't watched the past two episodes yet but hoping it gets better. So far it reminds me of Carnivale: the sort of low-brow, cliched intrigue that keeps you tuning in with the expectation something profound might be expressed next time, that all this schlock is building toward something which never arrives.

Although I am a supporter of the show I can 100% identify with this opinion. It would be very disappointing if they keep playing "just the tip" and the big melt down that everyone is waiting for never happens or is strung out for so long that it makes the build up a let down.

I have faith that it will work itself out in a more timely manner - Anthony Hopkins wouldn't have signed up unless something good was coming relatively quickly.

AzzarTheGod

11-07-2016, 04:29 PM

Some of the writing is top notch and then other times it's like wtf?

You get lost easily on the plot development on this show. Its brilliant to retarded.

When it gets retarded, you often need a website critic to recap the episode for you.

As predicted, its difficult to 100% follow every single plot development or even understand the implications of a thread without having an insider website feed you the recap and tell you how to interpret it or fill in exactly what something was supposed to mean.

Which I don't mind, but albeit the masses are barely following along. Sometimes on 5.1 surround sound I have to rewind a sentence just because its critical plot development (apparently) and the sentence will make absolutely no sense or have any meaning to me-- that's where you feel better after hitting that recap blog.

There is usually 1 moment of plot comprehension frustration per episode, if not 2. Oh and before some sperglord hauls off with "NO I understand the plot". Oh yeah, believe me, I do too....No, I am not talking about what you think the major story arc is. Its the plot thread development where the confusion is. The sum of parts, and the dialogue which is meant to advance the plot is very poor.

And often times can't be made any sense of at all without a guru with the inside track (usually those cable TV review website blogs) handing you the entire summary of the episode.

I know I can't be the only one who feels this way.

Essentially, yes we know the major plot arcs. But the DETAILS of these arcs and story threads are being told in a very messy fashion. The exposition dialogue is very "welp, hope the audience makes sense of that steaming shitter haha" , "CUT. WRAP! We're done."

Don't have specific examples offhand, my brain isn't open to recall at the moment.

FatMice

11-07-2016, 04:51 PM

AzzarTheGod

11-07-2016, 04:58 PM

The main point regarding the writing for me was after 5 episodes of, the man in the black who is going after the Maze as he is looking for clues, he kills person after person getting little to no information. Then in two lines, Teddy just basically explains exactly what the Maze is. I was like wtf? How hidden is this "maze" actually? Blame it on a short season I suppose.

Well we can't be sure that Ford's upgrade to Teddy's storyline was not involved with this? It seems indeed, it is involved. Which also makes Ford involved.

Keep in mind that isn't just off-the-shelf Episode 1 Teddy, that's Teddy with his "new storyline" that Ford said he was ready for.

I'd guess that's the explanation. Ford is playing a game. We don't know if Ford wants MIB to find the maze or not.

I tried to parse all interactions between man in black + Ford at that barroom conversation, it was very difficult to parse whether Ford is playing a game with the man in black, whether he wants him to find the maze (giving MIB what he wants), or wishes to prevent him from finding the maze.

^ that's how I see it and where I am at on it.

AzzarTheGod

11-07-2016, 05:02 PM

Additionally, I feel Wyatt and his crew are a renegade storyline designed by Ford (or someone) to ensure that people do not find the maze-- or die trying.

FatMice

11-07-2016, 05:02 PM

Yea but at the same time it felt like Ford didn't know what the maze really was; we don't even know what the maze really is. The scene when he walks into the Indian town and he sees the map carved on the table, it's like he sees it for the first time.

But you're right, was that line a modification to Teddy's story making Ford the link between the maze and these new quest line MIB is looking to uncover?

Also, it seems no matter what the time, place, and space, if you're a young confident woman walking into a dark abandoned shack knowing someone was there up to no good, you go alone! That shit was just predictable.

FatMice

11-07-2016, 05:04 PM

I will say I love the violence on screen. The sequences are pretty fucking on point.

AzzarTheGod

11-07-2016, 05:09 PM

We know Ford fashions himself some type of god. I think he may not be aware of all of the mazes significance, but I think he is aware of the maze phenomenon and knows more than he's exposed about Arnold's history (obviously)

And its been shown he has a lot of secrets and side shows in his peripheral and is a bit of a renegade (towards the investors and management). Its not clear whether he has knowledge of the maze. I'd guess its possible he wants MIB to find it on his behalf even??

I would guess Arnold stored his consciousness or the sum of his work in the maze perhaps. The maze might have interest to Ford to finally stop Arnold/prove Arnold wrong in some way symbolically ("If you can beat the maze, you can be free")... All a shot in the dark though..

FatMice

11-07-2016, 05:12 PM

Side bar... your 7 sec .gif in your sigature is hilarious.

AzzarTheGod

11-07-2016, 05:22 PM

lol staff nerfed the other 3 links I had in the storyline.

the sigs days are numbered, as the foe has been vanquished

AzzarTheGod

11-07-2016, 06:01 PM

on topic

To-date, the series premiere episode of Westworld has amassed nearly 12 million viewers, continuing to track ahead of the debuts of Game of Thrones and True Detective. The second episode is now approaching 6.5 million viewers, slightly below Episode 1 over a comparable time period (close to 7 million).

Cooking both GoT and True Detective by millions of viewers so far.

Yet no season 2 announced. BUDGET ISSUES ANYONE?

xKoopa

11-14-2016, 10:18 AM

Show stay droppin them bombs every episode

Spyder73

11-14-2016, 01:05 PM

Angushjalmur

11-14-2016, 01:29 PM

i thought this was about futuristic pleasure robots but all the screenshots are ugly old ppl in a western

Yeah im losing interest quick

xKoopa

11-14-2016, 02:10 PM

AzzarTheGod

11-14-2016, 05:32 PM

I was reading a pretty compelling argument that “The Man in Black” is actually a future version of William and that we are watching 2 separate time lines play out – one from the past and one from the future. Show is getting good – I would not be surprised if the big reveal is that they are all robots in the future because the robots of the past took over and started slowly replacing people without anyone noticing.

The theorycrafting on this show is deep.

I missed last nights episode. Forgot it was Sunday, had to bust some heads IRL and wasn't in the mood anymore.

5 seasons planned, no renewal yet. Smashed GoT but seems they can't lock up some of the actors again.

edit: they got it done over the weekend, its renewed pras. Season 2 will be on hold until 2018 tho.

Fame

11-14-2016, 05:35 PM

My buddy acts in this shows season finale, gonna be wild

AzzarTheGod

11-14-2016, 05:48 PM

With the $100 million Vinyl disappointment (one of Bloys' first moves was to scrap its planned second season) and two David Fincher projects that both stalled due to creative differences, the pressure was certainly on Westworld to perform. In the interim, Westworld along with The Night Of, Divorce and Insecure — as well as the upcoming debuts of Big Little Lies and David Simon's The Deuce — will look to keep HBO atop the Emmy leaders.

Vinyl (another 100 million dollar show) was basically scrapped by the new HBO exec as one of his first moves.

All the weight has been thrown into Westworld.

"Westworld for us is a great building block to have as we think about the ongoing drama series," Bloys noted. "We've got [limited series] The Young Pope, Big Little Lies and Sharp Objects, but the ongoing drama series, this is a really big an important building block for us. When you look at the breadth of our programming, the ongoing drama series is what the media have all been documenting, trying to get an ongoing drama series going. This is a really big deal for us."

Harris only under a 2 season deal.

(Hopkins and Harris are said to have scored $175,000 per episode each, with the latter potentially having only a two-year deal.)

For his part, Bloys remained tight-lipped about if all of the Westworld stars will return for a second season. "I don't want to speculate about cast because there's still three episodes left to air," he said.

AzzarTheGod

11-14-2016, 06:01 PM

I think Vinyl had ran its course anyway. We don't need to see mob bullshit come to the forefront of any premium series, and I think Bloys felt the same way about that season finale of Vinyl.

The overt mob bullshit that was arguably going to comprise a large portion of Season 2's plot was a cringey direction. OMG we borrowed money from the mafia! Been there, done that.

Great intuitive move by Bloys. Although I really like Olivia Wilde, I'll sacrifice for more Westworld.

big_ole_jpn

11-14-2016, 06:01 PM

ill stick with Buffy thanks

AzzarTheGod

11-14-2016, 06:12 PM

I was reading a pretty compelling argument that “The Man in Black” is actually a future version of William and that we are watching 2 separate time lines play out – one from the past and one from the future. Show is getting good – I would not be surprised if the big reveal is that they are all robots in the future because the robots of the past took over and started slowly replacing people without anyone noticing.

"If you can find it, you can be free" has a much deeper meaning. That theory jives along those lines.

Ford seems to be testing Arnold's magnum opus on artificial consciousness. I think hes convinced it doesn't truly exist, regardless of how well they blend in (more social commentary) but that hasn't stopped him from investigating Arnold's claim, if not just to say "I told you so" over Arnold's grave.

Wokequake definitely going down regardless.

AzzarTheGod

11-14-2016, 06:31 PM

More on my prediction (based on the pilot) that this show would require digesting a certain amount of peripheral media in order to keep up with the plot. I was wrong about the True Detective S2 comparison though. This show is way more reliant on peripheral media. Keeping up 100% otherwise isn't possible due to ambiguity and double entendre/easter eggs in the dialogue.

“It’s fantastic to have a broad-based cultural and ratings hit to build from,” Bloys said of “Westworld.” “That’s a great, great luxury.”

“Westworld” has quickly developed a fanatical following among viewers who parse every detail of the show described as a puzzle-within-a-puzzle set in a resort where humanized robots cater to the out-there whims of high-end patrons. Bloys said the fan obsession that “Westworld” has generated organically through social media and podcasts has been a pleasant surprise. He makes a point of scrolling through Twitter when the show airs live on Sunday nights. Bloys admits he’s gained insights about the show’s many mysteries by following the real-time detective work of fans.

“The level of detail that people devote to thinking about it is impressive,” he said, citing the intricate mythology crafted by “Westworld” creators/showrunners Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy.

Bloys feels the same way.

Our concern earlier in the thread was that the show would be too smart for the viewers. Its found a fanatical following so none of that matters now.

AzzarTheGod

11-28-2016, 12:59 AM

Wokequake in sector 88

Ahldagor

01-12-2017, 08:50 AM

Plato er the Matrix, spaghetti western, and a dash of ego based (Sartre) existentialism. Have to rewatch the last episode since I passed out periodically through it, very slow pacing through out, and Dolores blowing off Ford's head was amateur, predictable as all hell. Whole series was predictable. Acting was superb. Writing and directing were meh. 3.5 stars out of 5.

Sirken

01-15-2017, 09:09 AM

on topic

Cooking both GoT and True Detective by millions of viewers so far.

Yet no season 2 announced. BUDGET ISSUES ANYONE?

reread your quote. WW debut smoked the S1E1 debut of GoT and of TD. but it still doesnt get GoT numbers from the few years, and when you consider how many more people have been watching HBO over the last few years, its really not overly impressive. i was thinking (and im sure HBO was hoping) that WW numbers would compare to GoT Season 6 numbers.

that said, WW was a good show. i just worry that i'm gonna lose interest if they just start visiting a new park each season.

Ahldagor

01-15-2017, 10:15 AM

reread your quote. WW debut smoked the S1E1 debut of GoT and of TD. but it still doesnt get GoT numbers from the few years, and when you consider how many more people have been watching HBO over the last few years, its really not overly impressive. i was thinking (and im sure HBO was hoping) that WW numbers would compare to GoT Season 6 numbers.

that said, WW was a good show. i just worry that i'm gonna lose interest if they just start visiting a new park each season.

I wouldn't doubt if a new park per season is the plan. Isn't the next season slotted for 2018 tho'?

Sirken

01-17-2017, 03:29 AM

I wouldn't doubt if a new park per season is the plan. Isn't the next season slotted for 2018 tho'?

they said at the last big HBO thing that it would be back late 2017 or early 2018, leaning towards early 2018.

Ahldagor

01-17-2017, 10:25 AM

they said at the last big HBO thing that it would be back late 2017 or early 2018, leaning towards early 2018.

Ah. Have a site suggestion for info?

Deviation

02-16-2017, 10:44 PM

So this is an amazing show. Just got done rewatching the entire season for the 2nd time. The thought popped into my head the other day that blew my mind and is making me have to watch the entire season again. That thought is that Ford is actually the first host. Ford is Arnold's Bernard. His original creation and helper to help him design the park. I need to rewatch the entire season from this perspective but one of the first things that made me think of this was the bar scene with Ford and the man in black and Teddy. The man in black goes to cut open Teddy and Teddy grabs the knife and Ford didn't say anything as if he was able to control him through thought alone(aka he's hard wired into the system and is able to control all hosts or maybe almost all other hosts at will).

Ford views himself as their god and savior and says that Arnold didn't know how to save them but he does...because he's one of them. I think the host family he has saved is actually part of his back story and the kid you first see him encounter is actually a "memory" of himself as a child from his back story. I'm still not entirely sure yet but I'll try and put more pieces together if I can find any. Another really good reason why I think this is true is that it's an epic enough of a twist to keep the show very interesting for season 2 which everyone(including myself at one point) seems to think has nowhere to go from here.