1/3 of Russian population headed to bunkers [Archive]

AzzarTheGod

10-04-2016, 04:47 PM

I dont think anything will come of this but it is strange a few weeks ago the German gov told people to start stocking up on canned foods and supplies. Do we have any Ruskies that can confirm? How about the euros and north Africans like (((jarn))) any word from your occupation governments?

lol got em.

I think this stockpile thing has to do with Hillary/Russia. She has made it clear shes going to kick off the new cold war. Whats funny is shes the same bitch that pressed the reset button on relations? What a fucking creeper she is.

All kinds of weird and special interest. That behavior screams special interest and weird creepy vanity. "I WANT TO BE THE ONE TO PRESS THE RESET BUTTON ON RELATIONS FOR MY POLITICAL MOMENT IN HISTORY!!!!!" Weirdo.

Then shes the one that set off the new cold war. Our agents are being mugged, having their shoulder sockets torn outside while trying to enter the US Embassy in Russia since her work at the State Dept.

Fucking cringe. We need someone whos going to wheel and deal like Trump, not some politically vain weirdo trying to write her own version of history for her own (((book))) aka the talmudvision media who make-or-break you as far as how you are remembered.

People have no idea the power of the (((4th branch))) and how much power the media truly wield over the political machine.

Daywolf

10-04-2016, 05:21 PM

-sanctions are an act of war....
John Kerry had just threaten the Russians with breaking all diplomatic ties, which is threatening an act of war (hot war). The battle for Aleppo is starting off very bloody, and is foretasted to be very bloody with a possibility of morning blood showers. Russian body bag comments anyone? Russia accusing the US of cheating on disarmament agreements. It's really a long list of stuff going on. Then enjoy this gem from last year http://www.eutimes.net/2015/03/russia-warns-state-of-war-exists-as-uk-nukes-prepare-first-strike/ where they did go into defensive mode with "drills" at the time of the discovered first strike plans they reverse hacked out of England as the story goes.

Here is the Russian Ministry of Civil Defense report regarding the current situation http://en.mchs.ru/mass_media/news/item/32915549/
Then 0 hedge reporting on it http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/40-million-russians-take-part-radiation-disaster-drill-days-after-us-general-warns-w

Now whether or not something is going to come of it, I'm not a psychic. But when you have 1/3 of a country going underground (like never before), along with everything else going on, who's to say? Maybe you are thinking that they are going to strike us, but then you think we would never strike them first? And you know how this administration likes to call the attacks before they start, put it all in detail. Of course I doubt 0bama would ever tell us.

With such a huge amount of people going underground, and how MSM just LOVES to demonize Russia, interesting they are not reporting a thing on this which if were nothing could further lower our perception against those war mongering Russians.

Anyway, best to do the same as best you can, check emergency supplies etc.

Lune

10-04-2016, 05:40 PM

She has made it clear shes going to kick off the new cold war.

meh, bring it, we deserve nuclear fire

big_ole_jpn

10-04-2016, 05:45 PM

but i heard it on the television that trump = world war 3

entruil

10-04-2016, 07:21 PM

thing is, anything we or they do is a direct result of rallying the state to distract their population and seize more power... such is the nature of Government...

if they strike us or we strike them doesnt matter except that the ruling class solidified the public in what they are trying to accomplish....

this might just really be about north korea's increasing capabilities amped up with rhetoric that makes neighbor russia be prepared and spin it on us... gunna hit reply and close browser... drank creepin up quick... thought incomplete and inchorerent im sure...

peace.

gunsmith666

10-04-2016, 07:52 PM

Pretty sure first targets would be enemy satalites...

Daywolf

10-04-2016, 08:22 PM

thing is, anything we or they do is a direct result of rallying the state to distract their population and seize more power... such is the nature of Government... "They do"? Putin is not in a power struggle within his country, he's considered a hero (http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/13/why-vladimir-putins-people-love-him/) there by most.

The US and Russia are in a global power struggle though (land, resources and currency), and as such the peace talks over Syria have broken down, and now while US and UN cries of "barbarianism (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/26/world/ban-cries-war-crime-syria-russia-use-bunker-buster-bombs-aleppo/#.V_Q_FyT_p2E)" and war crimes against Russia today. Outside of Russia, I wouldn't be so concerned with NK, but what the Chinese may be doing or preparing for. Of course China is all bunkers, takes them less than an hour to all get underground.

Generally though, we have expected that if they were to strike be it limited or full, it would likely be in or around May. Doing something like this right before winter is pretty severe considering the difficulty of heating and mobility during winter months, would increase casualty rates. But then they have extensively expanded their bunkers in recent years in case of an attack.

You want my personal opinion? I don't think Putin is preparing a first strike. He's going defensive, possibly from intel he's received as this was a sudden drill. If he were going to launch a strike, he wouldn't broadcast it like this. But that is a guess. I'd be more concerned right now what may be planned as a response to Russia moving into Aleppo. Aleppo is looking to be one of the worst and most bloodiest battles in modern times.

Daywolf

10-04-2016, 09:51 PM

Anyone bother to look at live cams in Moscow? Considering Moscow has a larger population than NY, it's about deserted there. Most cams I couldn't get through to, but the earthcam out there is up and running. Very few vehicles moving for ~5am, and many of those being emergency vehicles. You can tell by the lights flashing above them. I also see an occasional line of vehicles and not stopping for red lights. I'm reading they evacuated some 11 million into bunkers in Moscow. Looks that way.

Jarnauga

10-04-2016, 10:15 PM

all the repoublican warmongers at the time were quick about talking to bomb iran, iraq, or any 3rd world countries because i guess it boosted their nationalist ego.. :p

but russia can invade sovereign countries and bomb hospitals to support a genocidal tyran, and everyone wants peace, let's not trigger the poor russian that is, afterall, a friend. They just flew over 2 bombers over french aerial territory just after the french at UN security council talked about war crimes.. provocation, again. That was after a submarine was sighted in gascogne gulf.. lol. a submarine sight, of course. That's just showing off at this point. :D

Kinda funny honestly. russians won't ever be in an open conflict with NATO, or the usa. They don't have the powerforce, or the economy to be in a conflict with a real army.

..unless a certain presidential candidate of the biggest army in the world who has known ties to the kremlin, that openly threatened to get out of NATO was elected.. ?

entruil

10-04-2016, 11:18 PM

You want my personal opinion? I don't think Putin is preparing a first strike. He's going defensive, possibly from intel he's received as this was a sudden drill. If he were going to launch a strike, he wouldn't broadcast it like this. But that is a guess. I'd be more concerned right now what may be planned as a response to Russia moving into Aleppo. Aleppo is looking to be one of the worst and most bloodiest battles in modern times.

deleted my drunk stand-offish type quote molding... you are right and i'll recognize that this isn't years ago and swings have swung....

anything with russia/libya/iran/china/nk/even usa???? etc... u have to include in your computations "authoritarian blindness" (just how they kill people for not reporting/molding to their decrees.... they will kill you for telling the truth....)

another way to think about it is... if your job is to report to the "Kremlin" how do you do that?.... well i'll tell you what you do if you value your life and your family... you tell them what they want to hear...

-jarnauga rep's a real piece of this.... don't let stand strong mf's set you sideways lest' u willin' to live..... let me live... (2pac ref)

this is the struggle... this is why U.S. gains ground... this is why georgia set shit apart...; this is why.... can't go on... got enough sniper heat ya heard?....

Daywolf

10-05-2016, 12:13 AM

lol I haven't even put any real effort into red-blue politicizing this thread for the campaign. But here comes ((((((Jarnauga)))))) to present a far-left conspiracy theory that this is all Trump's fault what's going on LOL
Awww... no Bush to blame? You know, Bush that endorsed Hitllary? lol republican warmongers..

Anyway, in the likelihood of a WWIII hotwar, fRaNcE will join Russia, it's a given. Along with Germany. Alard AL-kbarf! biach

entruil

10-05-2016, 12:31 AM

I think jarnauga the shit though... Get's extra "Parentheses'" every post... we should be like...

"('",999,9,99,(((M"M9'9"(M(Jarn">)>_)>?)?)??))?)<)<)<)<)<<)

R Flair

10-05-2016, 03:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWAFvIT-NHs

Angushjalmur

10-05-2016, 10:46 AM

its because obama is throwing a temper tantrum, threatening russia with terrorist attacks because lord putin is all up in syrias shit putting obama and hillarys private raghead army in the fucking ground

R Flair

10-05-2016, 11:23 AM

From history, you can know if Russia supports something, its for the wrong reason.

Such is the case with Assad. Syria = bad guys. Syria's allies Iran = bad guys. Russia = Iranian AND Syrian ally and thus = bad guys.

The cover is blown at this point using the ISIS army, they might as well start killing ISIS to establish a precedent that we are "actually" fighting the bad guys. Once they've convinced everyone we are back on the right side, accidentally blow up ISIS and Syrias army.

Russia won't do shit. Its all posturing. Their country is proud, but poor as fuck and still behind us militarily.

Angushjalmur

10-05-2016, 11:27 AM

They might not have as many bells and whistles as us, but they've done more to fight ISIS than we ever will (because we're funding ISIS)

Nihilist_santa

10-05-2016, 11:30 AM

This is pretty basic if you keep up with news from Syria. Basically the US razed a bunch of Assad's troops last week claiming it was an accident and now wants to enforce a no fly zone. The US is backed into a corner and Russia refuses to play ball since they know the US is backing ISIS. Putin thinks that if he threatens war Obama will back down (which he has steadily done his entire Presidency). To show he is serious they go back to cold war nuke drills. US resumes bomber flights etc. Its cold war 2.0. US is really fucking up trying to enforce a no fly zone but they are realizing Russia is not going to be diplomatic about keeping their proxy in power and Syrian port.

R Flair

10-05-2016, 11:33 AM

They might not have as many bells and whistles as us, but they've done more to fight ISIS than we ever will (because we're funding ISIS)

Ya, we're funding ISIS because the US is too scared of the UN to blow countries like Iran and Syria into the stone age.

Russia fights ISIS because they stand to weaken the US by helping allied arab nations unite against the US and establish an independent oil market. By breaking down the commodity backing the dollar (oil), they could crash the US economy without ever firing a missile in our direction.

I'd personally rather we just do it all out in the open while waving our manparts in front of the U.N. but have no problem with them using ISIS as long as we remember to dispose of them when we're done.

big_ole_jpn

10-05-2016, 11:51 AM

From history, you can know if Russia supports something, its for the wrong reason.

Epic troll, this sentence actually gave me a physical headache

R Flair

10-05-2016, 12:38 PM

Epic troll, this sentence actually gave me a physical headache

The truth can often be painful. If you actually think Russia is right in supporting Syria, bring forth your reasoning.

Whatever you do please don't come forward with something stupid like they are good guys and just want to fight ISIS.

big_ole_jpn

10-05-2016, 12:55 PM

The truth can often be painful. If you actually think Russia is right in supporting Syria, bring forth your reasoning.

Whatever you do please don't come forward with something stupid like they are good guys and just want to fight ISIS.

the only one bringing the goodguy/badguy dichotomy to this conversation is you mein goi

why it is good they are supporting Syria? the globalist faction destabilizing Syria and using US air power to help ISIS gain victories wants chaos in Syria, the highly publicized brutal slaughter of innocents, ISIS propaganda etc to drive American public opinion into justifying a "humanitarian" invasion during the next administration. Obviously Russia is simply resisting the expansion of the US sphere of influence into their own, not doing something because it is right or wrong (yikes), but in this case the Russkie goal of preventing an American invasion aligns with that of Americans who don't want to see US military assets sucked into another quagmire predicated on lies to enrich war profiteer traitors and foreigners.

derpcake

10-05-2016, 12:58 PM

forum really needs a mode where you can vote ZERO FUCKING STARS FOR THIS PIECE OF SHIT

the "one star" message doesn't seem to bring it to some

R Flair

10-05-2016, 01:02 PM

the only one bringing the goodguy/badguy dichotomy to this conversation is you mein goi

why it is good they are supporting Syria? the globalist faction destabilizing Syria and using US air power to help ISIS gain victories wants chaos in Syria, the highly publicized brutal slaughter of innocents, ISIS propaganda etc to drive American public opinion into justifying a "humanitarian" invasion during the next administration. Obviously Russia is simply resisting the expansion of the US sphere of influence into their own, not doing something because it is right or wrong (yikes), but in this case the Russkie goal of preventing an American invasion aligns with that of Americans who don't want to see US military assets sucked into another quagmire predicated on lies to enrich war profiteer traitors and foreigners.

Thats the problem. By not thinking in terms of right or wrong you will always be stuck in shades of grey.

Syria are bad guys. Oh but they have a "secular leader". Bullshit. They are dealing with Iran and Russia. These are not good countries. They are demonstrably bad for as long as we can remember. Even if Assad wanted to, he couldn't bring any real peace to the region because his country is 70% muslim and clearly, they don't even like him

Ok so its some globalist faction destabilizing Syria. Tell me what motivation globalists (this term gets misused so much) have that would be any more pertinent than independent US motivations of preventing a coalition of arab nations from toppling the oil-backed US economy?

big_ole_jpn

10-05-2016, 01:59 PM

Thats the problem. By not thinking in terms of right or wrong you will always be stuck in shades of grey.

https://i.imgur.com/WOi4wKg.png

Syria are bad guys.

Does that make ISIS good guys? If not, which guys are worse? Oh Peter Dooky, we're back into those "shades of grey" my willful lobotomy was supposed to wipe out!!!

Oh but they have a "secular leader". Bullshit. They are dealing with Iran and Russia. These are not good countries. They are demonstrably bad for as long as we can remember.

The alternative is the United States of America. You know, the country where the president who presided over drug dealing to impoverished blacks domestically to bypass congress in funding covert wars is still worshiped as a hero and the greatest post-WW2 leader (triggered?). There are not "good guys".

Even if Assad wanted to, he couldn't bring any real peace to the region because his country is 70% muslim and clearly, they don't even like him

Assad, Saddam and Gaddafi all had pretty solid control over their respective territories before they were destabilized from outside. Your statement above is simply false, and you are in one deep motherfucking slumber if you believe the continuing instability in Syria is an organic outgrowth of an organic Arab Spring.

Ok so its some globalist faction destabilizing Syria. Tell me what motivation globalists (this term gets misused so much) have that would be any more pertinent than independent US motivations of preventing a coalition of arab nations from toppling the oil-backed US economy?

Instability in the middle-east is highly conducive to the goals of (((internationalist financiers))) and American/Europeans with (((dual loyalties))) although it is partially aligned with support of the petrodollar (entangling alliance, and you are not an American if you think it is a good thing). You can disagree or call me tinfoil for believing that these people will follow their "prophecy" even deeper down the rabbit hole, but considering that Zionists are fully planning on the destruction of Israel as a stepping stone to global dominion, I consider them to be globalists. Maybe I'm wrong and Zionists really are just Israeli nationalists and I'm misusing the word "globalism". shrug

Ahldagor

10-05-2016, 02:06 PM

Brits divided up land based on resources and not tribal ties....wait, post colonial, post ww2, effects finally coming to a head. Russia trying to pop the zit while the US is letting the skin force it out. Either way the pus is coming out and will need to be cleaned up pretty well or it'll reform, worse than before. It's a quagmire and Jordan proly has the best take on dealing with it, but no one listens to Jordan.

maskedmelon

10-05-2016, 02:17 PM

I don't have an opinion on this. Can someone give me one to work with or share some more info that I can digest to formulate the right opinion? Intuition tells me the problem is the nature of man, but we'll just have to see now...

^^

R Flair

10-05-2016, 02:23 PM

Does that make ISIS good guys? If not, which guys are worse? Oh Peter Dooky, we're back into those "shades of grey" my willful lobotomy was supposed to wipe out!!!

Bad is bad. Both are bad. One is bad now, the other is bad later. No amount of democracy is going to westernize or secularize them away from their religion and hatred of USA, western values and of Israel.

The alternative is the United States of America. You know, the country where the president who presided over drug dealing to impoverished blacks domestically to bypass congress in funding covert wars is still worshiped as a hero and the greatest post-WW2 leader (triggered?). There are not "good guys".

That is where you are wrong. For all our horrible politicians and everything messed up going on at home and abroad, USA is the good guys. Our nations actions for over a century, regardless of the motives behind them, has made life safer and better for civilized peoples everywhere. You are an idiot if you think otherwise.

Assad, Saddam and Gaddafi all had pretty solid control over their respective territories before they were destabilized from outside. Your statement above is simply false, and you are in one deep motherfucking slumber if you believe the continuing instability in Syria is an organic outgrowth of an organic Arab Spring.

I've seen and read what Syrians thought about Assad since before the war even started. To them, he is a skinny, effeminate, westernized prick and a horrible successor or alternative to his father and brothers.

Did the US use that to our advantage - I'm sure. Is everything we're doing above board? Almost definitely not. Do we have to use all kinds of round about ways to accomplish things in the mideast. Always unfortunately. We are now cucks to the UN and can't do whats obviously right due to real globalist restrictions.

Is both the middle east and the world better off when Arab nations are not allowed to unite under a hostile ideology? of course. Again, anyone that doesn't think so is an idiot and beyond educating.

Instability in the middle-east is highly conducive to the goals of (((internationalist financiers))) and American/Europeans with (((dual loyalties))) although it is partially aligned with support of the petrodollar (entangling alliance, and you are not an American if you think it is a good thing). You can disagree or call me tinfoil for believing that these people will follow their "prophecy" even deeper down the rabbit hole, but considering that Zionists are fully planning on the destruction of Israel as a stepping stone to global dominion, I consider them to be globalists. Maybe I'm wrong and Zionists really are just Israeli nationalists and I'm misusing the word "globalism". shrug

As I've said before, global politics is an absolute clusterfuck of opposing agendas. The house is divided, it always has been and always will be even if their causes align at some points on some issues.

Trying to ascertain who exactly is doing what for who and what reason is nearly impossible because even the people responsible aren't entirely sure what part of any action or sanction or military action is backed by who. Its just not as simple as conspiracy theorists and anti-zionists like to believe.

entruil

10-05-2016, 02:33 PM

Interventionism is bad.

It's like digging a hole.

R Flair

10-05-2016, 02:50 PM

Interventionism is bad.

It's like digging a hole.

You know who would agree with that?

Hitler.

big_ole_jpn

10-05-2016, 02:55 PM

Bad is bad. Both are bad. One is bad now, the other is bad later. No amount of democracy is going to westernize or secularize them away from their religion and hatred of USA, western values and of Israel.

Which is why physical domination by a secular dictator who is dependent on outside aid to maintain stability is the most optimal outcome even within your sick imperialist paradigm. Allowing for mob rule (actual democracy) in these regions creates entities like ISIS.

That is where you are wrong. For all our horrible politicians and everything messed up going on at home and abroad, USA is the good guys. Our nations actions for over a century, regardless of the motives behind them, has made life safer and better for civilized peoples everywhere. You are an idiot if you think otherwise.

Semite-dominated puppet empires limited by Western values make more humane hegemons than those with overtly Semitic ideology a la Soviet Union, sure. But this idea that foreign states should not be allowed to fail, that the United States has a responsibility to anything other than its citizenry, is a toxic globalist ideology that you seem to be buying into. The US was not intended to be a global empire and imposing our will on foreigners by force, even with the best of intentions, will deservingly earn us destruction.

If brown foreigners want to rape each other to death that is their prerogative. They will waste too much time on that to pose any existential threat to the United States. And if they do want to fuck with us, nuclear deterrence renders non-interventionism a more viable option than ever before in history.

I've seen and read what Syrians thought about Assad since before the war even started. To them, he is a skinny, effeminate, westernized prick and a horrible successor or alternative to his father and brothers.

And I've seen and read that Americans thought Bush was a war criminal who did 9/11. Yet no foreigners intervened and the regime remained stable.

Is both the middle east and the world better off when Arab nations are not allowed to create unite under a hostile ideology? of course. Again, anyone that doesn't think so is an idiot and beyond educating.

Without (((British))) meddling as Ahldagor mentioned, weaponized neopuritan belligerant Islamic unity against foreign aggressors would not exist. The contents of the Quran disgust me but not any more than the contents of the Talmud -- so take your pick R Flair, either both need to be harassed militarily or wiped from the face of the Earth, or both can coexist with the West.

As I've said before, global politics is an absolute clusterfuck of opposing agendas. The house is divided, it always has been and always will be even if their causes align at some points on some issues.

Trying to ascertain who exactly is doing what for who and what reason is nearly impossible because even the people responsible aren't entirely sure what part of any action or sanction or military action is backed by who. Its just not as simple as conspiracy theorists and anti-zionists like to believe.

You're not wrong about this, but you are still a globalist interventionist cuck.

R Flair

10-05-2016, 03:25 PM

Your post is just so full of crazy its almost not worth responding to, but I'll give it a shot for fun.
Which is why physical domination by a secular dictator who is dependent on outside aid to maintain stability is the most optimal outcome even within your sick imperialist paradigm. Allowing for mob rule (actual democracy) in these regions creates entities like ISIS.

In a perfect world where these secular dictators weren't attempting to reform Assyria and align with nations whose stated goal is to destroy the great satan the US and destroy the Jewish state, this would indeed be great.

But that simply isn't the reality of Syria nor their brothers of Iran (nor their Greek orthodox cousins Russia). You have been duped by all those anti-American conspiracies you have been buying into wholesale.

Semite-dominated puppet empires limited by Western values make more humane hegemons than those with overtly Semitic ideology a la Soviet Union, sure. But this idea that foreign states should not be allowed to fail, that the United States has a responsibility to anything other than its citizenry, is a toxic globalist ideology that you seem to be buying into. The US was not intended to be a global empire and imposing our will on foreigners by force, even with the best of intentions, will deservingly earn us destruction.

Blah blah semitic this semitic that. More Jews live in New York than anywhere else on the planet. Just because they are writing down these social doctrines that existed for millennia in nations and empires of white and non-jews doesn't mean they are exclusively semitic. Put away your flaming cross.

If brown foreigners want to rape each other to death that is their prerogative. They will waste too much time on that to pose any existential threat to the United States. And if they do want to fuck with us, nuclear deterrence renders non-interventionism a more viable option than ever before in history.

If they could only be satisfied raping each other and had no intention of raping everyone else and unifying esp thru private commodities markets, then we'd likely have no problem.

Unfortunately their actions and stated intentions suggest otherwise.

And I've seen and read that Americans thought Bush was a war criminal who did 9/11. Yet no foreigners intervened and the regime remained stable.

Without (((British))) meddling as Ahldagor mentioned, weaponized neopuritan belligerant Islamic unity against foreign aggressors would not exist. The contents of the Quran disgust me but not any more than the contents of the Talmud -- so take your pick R Flair, either both need to be harassed militarily or wiped from the face of the Earth, or both can coexist with the West.

You're not wrong about this, but you are still a globalist interventionist cuck.

And you are a noninterventionist cuck (which is actually a cuck by definition) pretending that everything will just be a-ok if the west stands aside because our motives are not pure. Thats even worse.

big_ole_jpn

10-05-2016, 03:40 PM

And you are a noninterventionist cuck (which is actually a cuck by definition) pretending that everything will just be a-ok if the west stands aside because our motives are not pure. Thats even worse.

thanks for italicizing the part that you made up

what i actually said is intervening in foreigners' affairs by force of arms is a transgression regardless of intentions and deserves recourse as a matter of self defense

you are literally a globalist. alex jones shakes his head at you.

R Flair

10-05-2016, 04:06 PM

thanks for italicizing the part that you made up

what i actually said is intervening in foreigners' affairs by force of arms is a transgression regardless of intentions and deserves recourse as a matter of self defense

you are literally a globalist. alex jones shakes his head at you.

I didn't make it up at all. You suggest our motives are all nefarious. Only some of them are and they don't represent everyone, though our agendas sometimes cross.

This is where the whole so-called globalism falls apart:

Globalism clearly wants to bring the United States of America low. It has to disintegrate people, make us poor and unite us together with the rest of the world.

The UN wants to limit our power in the Middle east. The UN ties USAs hands.

The US then circumvents the UN (which is definitively and without controversy, globalist to the core) covertly, in order to prevent nations bent on our destruction from procuring nuclear weapons and destroying our economy via private oil markets.

The UN doesn't care how the destruction of the US and unifying of the world comes about; whether its by crazy muslims with nukes, whether they destroy our economy routing oil away from the US dollar, or whether its old fashioned communism.

The globalists among us (the US) then take in refugees created by their wars to disintegrate our people. Not because "that was the plan all along", but because its the best they can do.

See how none of it makes sense? Do you see how its circular? Is it not obvious that whether we fight or we forbear, the outcome is the same and you could say either way, the globalist will is done? Not because the US gov is comprised entirely of people with a globalist agenda, but because there are people who, either way, will forward that agenda. Right now its primarily via socialist policies and social progressivism, but only because there is no way the real patriots among us are going to let Assyria rise up against the US or our allies (Israel).

But Israel is the real issue isn't it. As long as we are helping them, the globalist agenda must be going strong. And yet even that is antithetical if Israel is supposed to be destroyed to fulfill their destiny and receive their Messiah.

Its not as simple as you think.

I'm a patriot. Not the hair-brained Alex Jones variety that argues against himself as I just demonstrated above, but an American Nationalist who believes our self-interests are simply more important and better for everyone that what could possibly come of complete non-intervention.

R Flair

10-05-2016, 04:35 PM

Furthermore, if we honestly could let everything in the mid east go and not have to worry about it leading to a serious threat against the US and our allies, I would 100% be for it. The reality is that is not a viable alternative and there is more at stake than what you think. If you really believe Russia is hanging out there for humanitarian reasons you need to cut your dosage.

Trump is going to have his work cut out for him when he takes office. And if you really think once he is briefed on what is really going on with Syria that he will be able to talk to Russia and make everything better with non-interference policies, you are in for a rude awakening.

Going to call it now. Trump is going to be forced into further aggressive posturing once he learns what is at stake, and I guess at that point he will become a "globalist" in your eyes too. :rolleyes:

AzzarTheGod

10-05-2016, 04:42 PM

big_ole_jpn

10-05-2016, 04:57 PM

hair-brained

Going to call it now. Trump is going to be forced into further aggressive posturing once he learns what is at stake, and I guess at that point he will become a "globalist" in your eyes too. :rolleyes:

You're voting for Hillary, right? Bush sure is and he seems like your man.

I agree that it's very likely Don will continue neocon policy and prove your call correct but at least he sorta claims he won't.

R Flair

10-05-2016, 05:14 PM

You're voting for Hillary, right? Bush sure is and he seems like your man.

I agree that it's very likely Don will continue neocon policy and prove your call correct but at least he sorta claims he won't.

Sorry that I upset your belief system and that I don't fit in your box.

There is nothing neocon about Trump, there is just more going on than your perfect cut and dry conspiracy theory accounts for.

entruil

10-05-2016, 05:15 PM

AUSA 2016 Association of US Army conference defense exhibition Washington DC United States Day 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6sgBxbUXY)

Lune

10-05-2016, 05:37 PM

the only one bringing the goodguy/badguy dichotomy to this conversation is you mein goi

why it is good they are supporting Syria? the globalist faction destabilizing Syria and using US air power to help ISIS gain victories wants chaos in Syria, the highly publicized brutal slaughter of innocents, ISIS propaganda etc to drive American public opinion into justifying a "humanitarian" invasion during the next administration. Obviously Russia is simply resisting the expansion of the US sphere of influence into their own, not doing something because it is right or wrong (yikes), but in this case the Russkie goal of preventing an American invasion aligns with that of Americans who don't want to see US military assets sucked into another quagmire predicated on lies to enrich war profiteer traitors and foreigners.

This is a clever way to look at it.

You're making R Flair look like a fucking dunce in this thread and it's wonderful.

However, I don't think it's accurate to cast the USA as cultivating ISIS victories or benefiting strategically from ISIS in any big-picture way. ISIS is an immense force for instability across the entire region, and instability and unpredictability like that are bad for business. For example, tens of thousands of refugees floating to Italy from the ruins of Libya contributes to the instability of the European economy, whose crash would be devastating to the US, including the US elite.

It's also a stretch to claim this administration was able to plan or mastermind the current trajectory of things in Syria. If that were the case, you wouldn't have had Obama threatening Assad over the use of chemical weapons and then completely reneging on it. That was a blunder no matter how you look at it. Many knew the factions that were responsible for the insurgency in Iraq (many of the fighters came in from Syria) would go out of control once we left, but I don't think anybody predicted that they would come up with something like ISIS that has mass appeal to Muslims.

R Flair

10-05-2016, 05:57 PM

This is a clever way to look at it.

You're making R Flair look like a fucking dunce in this thread and it's wonderful.

However, I don't think it's accurate to cast the USA as cultivating ISIS victories or benefiting strategically from ISIS in any big-picture way. ISIS is an immense force for instability across the entire region, and instability and unpredictability like that are bad for business. For example, tens of thousands of refugees floating to Italy from the ruins of Libya contributes to the instability of the European economy, whose crash would be devastating to the US, including the US elite.

It's also a stretch to claim this administration was able to plan or mastermind the current trajectory of things in Syria. If that were the case, you wouldn't have had Obama threatening Assad over the use of chemical weapons and then completely reneging on it. That was a blunder no matter how you look at it. Many knew the factions that were responsible for the insurgency in Iraq (many of the fighters came in from Syria) would go out of control once we left, but I don't think anybody predicted that they would come up with something like ISIS that has mass appeal to Muslims.

I like how you claimed I was a dunce, but then came forth with yet another logical assertion which only proves my point: that it isn't as simple as folks would like to believe.

Its ok not to know. I admit much of what I've said is based on collective info from all sides of the argument. Its just simple logic that none of the theories put forth even approach what constitutes a solid explanation for the things taking place.

Most of all what I cannot understand is the sudden sick adoration of Russia. A comments section on an infowars video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wCwJ8pfXXo) reads like a pro-fascist circle-jerk lubricated by Russian propaganda. Its disgusting.

Don't people realize that Trump never intended to suggest that Russia was good in any way, but merely that Putin was working in his country's interests from their worldview and that America's leader should do the same?

AzzarTheGod

10-05-2016, 06:20 PM

Most of all what I cannot understand is the sudden sick adoration of Russia. A comments section on an infowars video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wCwJ8pfXXo) reads like a pro-fascist circle-jerk lubricated by Russian propaganda. Its disgusting.

Don't people realize that Trump never intended to suggest that Russia was good in any way, but merely that Putin was working in his country's interests from their worldview and that America's leader should do the same?

Weak speaker. Sounds like a fake bumbling fat ass. I could do better.

No wonder we have to nuthug Russia.

Sage Truthbearer

10-05-2016, 06:25 PM

Posted by R Flair, Today, 04:57 PM

Last edited by R Flair; Today at 05:17 PM.

Cringed at this guy going back and feverishly editing his posts 20 minutes later.

AzzarTheGod

10-05-2016, 06:26 PM

Cringed at this guy going back and feverishly editing his posts 20 minutes later.

giggled and smiled hard. lol

R Flair

10-05-2016, 06:31 PM

Cringed at this guy going back and feverishly editing his posts 20 minutes later.

Ya editing a post is real crazy man. Adding additional information is truly shameful.

could have just added that bit at the end to a new post but im no double posting scum

AzzarTheGod

10-05-2016, 06:35 PM

but im no double posting scum

got beef?

Swish

10-05-2016, 06:39 PM

The stroganov is strong here comrades

Hailto

10-05-2016, 06:43 PM

The stroganov is strong here comrades

You have 14 thousand posts on this forum, do you ever stop and consider that?

AzzarTheGod

10-05-2016, 06:43 PM

You have 14 thousand posts on this forum, do you ever stop and consider that?

im tooling him on posts per day tho, almost up to 8 posts a day. I aspire to reach 10 and claim unanimous victory over forumquest.

Hailto

10-05-2016, 06:46 PM

im tooling him on posts per day tho, almost up to 8 posts a day. I aspire to reach 10 and claim unanimous victory over forumquest.

praying for you

AzzarTheGod

10-05-2016, 06:49 PM

praying for you

thx im pretty frazzled tbh, its hard to just hit refresh all day n night looking for opportunities to post for weeks on end

maskedmelon

10-05-2016, 06:57 PM

thx im pretty frazzled tbh, its hard to just hit refresh all day n night looking for opportunities to post for weeks on end

You coming up on Tecmos real soon too Azz. I say another 2 weeks tops and you'll advance a slot. How it feel?

big_ole_jpn

10-05-2016, 09:00 PM

This is a clever way to look at it.

You're making R Flair look like a fucking dunce in this thread and it's wonderful.

However, I don't think it's accurate to cast the USA as cultivating ISIS victories or benefiting strategically from ISIS in any big-picture way. ISIS is an immense force for instability across the entire region, and instability and unpredictability like that are bad for business. For example, tens of thousands of refugees floating to Italy from the ruins of Libya contributes to the instability of the European economy, whose crash would be devastating to the US, including the US elite.

EU masters clearly like importing refugees for some reason. Deliberate importation of domestic security threats seems to benefit authoritarians. It's not like there was a shortage of people wanting to flood European borders before this conflict; the important thing is that they are being allowed entry.

It's also a stretch to claim this administration was able to plan or mastermind the current trajectory of things in Syria. If that were the case, you wouldn't have had Obama threatening Assad over the use of chemical weapons and then completely reneging on it. That was a blunder no matter how you look at it. Many knew the factions that were responsible for the insurgency in Iraq (many of the fighters came in from Syria) would go out of control once we left, but I don't think anybody predicted that they would come up with something like ISIS that has mass appeal to Muslims.

Didn't this follow the change in Russian footing on Syria? I read this as Obama backing down from an even more aggressive stance with respect to destabilizing Syria when Russia started investing in the conflict, pulling back to just airstriking Syrian forces, but you might be able to prove that perception wrong if my timeline is messed up.

As for stretches -- I don't think it's a stretch to suspect that people providing arms, training, and logistical support to a rebel force in a region already rendered lawless by earlier interference might have intended for said force to succeed. ISIS may exceed their wildest expectations but this is a tried-and-true formula. It will be used to justify another US invasion and occupation, which you are correct will not benefit the United States of America unless we go full Genghis, but there are plenty of foreigners who will benefit and they have a distressingly firm grip on the policy of the United States of America. That's not even mentioning the huge money in defense and surveillance (booz allen, raytheon etc sure, but don't forget every single company in Silicon Valley) that stand to benefit. There are a lot of people and dollars foreign and domestic on the side of the further looting of American coffers in the guise of another dogshit war.

Daywolf

10-05-2016, 09:02 PM

meh, there is no good side. Not even a lesser of two evils, just evil. Not speaking of the elections.

As far as Russia, the globalists baited the hook, the bear and it's cubs are being pulled in. That forward momentum is there, and as Russia now goes deep into the run, eventually the bear clamped onto that fish will go in upward momentum and break the water bursting high into the air and try to rain destruction down on it's perceived enemies. The bear along with it's trailing cubs.

It's a war that these globalists want, that they are pushing for. They all smell the collapse of the dollar looming. In fact such a collapse is orchestrated, intentionally. But they misjudged the time frame of it, got bogged down, and it'll collapse before they have achieved world dominance. Because as the dominant power, the globalists can control the creation of the new standard of world currency, to be the controllers of it, and of those to be indebted to it.

As far as for the Don, no he's not a globalist. He's outside of their control and they hate him for it. The thing is he can't fix it, you can't fix something designed to fail (I think he knows that). The system is rigged, head to toe, and nothing is going to stop it from collapsing, as it was designed to do.

It's going to hurt, but nowhere near as bad as if the globalists get what they want, or by trying to out of their desperation. They must have a war, a pretty nasty one, otherwise at the collapse of the dollar (along with the euro) they could be set back generations if they are unable to take control of the creation of a new global currency. Time is running out.

gunsmith666

10-05-2016, 10:13 PM

I'm thinking that it might be in Russia's favor not to go to war with the states there debt to gdp is 17% states is 104.7%.597 billion defense buget for the states vs 66billion for Russia. I'd in the very least wait till the world stops believing in the American dollar beafore I'd consider provoking the US into a war.I would also wait for a tech change,states will have a harder and harder time staying at the front of military technology if they have a massive economic collapse

Probably wrong,don't care.

Daywolf

10-05-2016, 10:50 PM

Probably wrong,don't care.
Should have just wrote that in the first place ;)

You're not alone in this opinion, that's for sure.

A pivotal moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09GBjzxYymQ
As I've called it before, a reverse Cuban missile crisis.
As for Syria, Russia has had naval ports there even back to the cold war. They have always had interests in the middle-east, and now they are being drawn into defending their access.

Daywolf

10-06-2016, 02:28 AM

Brits divided up land based on resources and not tribal ties....
Well you know, with the invention of the ruler, it just seemed like a fitting place to drop on a map and start drawing little straight lines with a crayon. Before then, there was always peace there, ya know?! Those silly Brits, they should have used a slide-ruler!
but ya know..
at least you're trying :)

Odd, does CNN and NBC/MSNBC have nothing to say on this issue? I did a google search on anything mentioned of Russia from those sites (Russia Site:****** etc.) and for the past week, and hardly a thing came up besides accusations of Russia poisoning US diplomats etc. Otherwise they are pretty much running stories of "Scary Clowns" -like junk on the front page of their website ...well looked at CNN anyway, big ugly clown on the index page. (edit: just looked at msnbc, no clowns, only videos of clown hosts)

I only see this coming out of non-MSM sites and some UK sites. Same with searching Google news in general, just non-MSM sites. It's not a Google problem either, I searched duckduckgo and came up nil just the same.

I mean a third of Russia just went underground, this isn't news worthy for MSM in the least?

You guys are left with nothing to copy-paste for at least a half-hearted response against the fact :(
#OMGScaryClowns :eek:

Nuggie

10-06-2016, 02:46 AM

I enjoy reading things from both sides. I like to see the arguments you bring forth(Except Lune, he seems to spew straight party line B.S. withou considering the other side of the debate. Which is why I put him on ignore over a year ago. If you guys would stop quoting him that woukd be just peachy). However, with problems that are not domestic I find it hard to take what anyone says at face value. Most everyone's "facts" come from the media or the government. Both of which are inherently biased. With some organizations severely so.

Without hearing the facts from local populaces about these issues not many people can have a truly informed opinion. It's all what you think you know from what you've seen from biased sources.

AzzarTheGod

10-06-2016, 02:52 AM

I like to see the arguments you bring forth (Except Lune, he seems to spew straight party line B.S. withou considering the other side of the debate. Which is why I put him on ignore over a year ago. If you guys would stop quoting him that woukd be just peachy).

http://i.imgur.com/5Ridtff.gif

Daywolf

10-06-2016, 03:22 AM

Except Lune
http://i.imgur.com/HNKa8mc.jpg

But yeah, best to look at various sources, even on-the-street videos, yep. I picked up some extra emergency supplies today, some more tomorrow.

Jarnauga

10-06-2016, 03:59 AM

Inb4 (((R flair)))

Daywolf

10-06-2016, 04:48 AM

Faraday Container.

Some heavy duty aluminum foil.
Plastic wrap.
Some cloth.

example:
Grab your flashlight (remove batteries), wrap it in some cloth for wrapping protection. Plastic wrap it. Then rap it once completely with the foil. Wrap another layer of plastic wrap, then another layer of foil. Do this until you have 3 or 4 layers of foil. Store it off the ground. Wrap batteries separately. That's basic, might work might not. If a ground blast is that close, may not matter. But air bursts are for widest disruption. They say a few atmospheric EMP's could blind the US coast to coast.

Additionally, you can drop it into a box, wrap that with a couple layers like you did for the flashlight. Now drop that all into a steel trashcan with a secure lid, or some other steel container. You can put boxes in boxes too, all wrapped, so you don't just have one big box of stuff, and also provides a little more protection. Store the steel can/box off the ground.

Things like firearms are fine, EMP's won't harm mechanical parts, just anything electronic or like batteries, or small solar cells. Pretty much it, it's not very hard. Wrapping and wrapping and wrapping an item won't help any, three or four layers is enough. I'd say four if not putting it into a box and steel container.

What to wrap is up to you, obviously a flashlight and some batteries. Something you are not using and can store for a while. I'd suggest like one of those multi flashlights with the red and green LED's (red is great for keeping night sight). I like the little black plastic black & decker's, I think most walmart's carry them still. They fold too, and I've been using one about every night the past 5 years, same one. Shortwave radio. Some batteries. Walk-talkies are good, especially if they have a headphone jack. More hardcore stuff I can suggest, but this makes for a good bug-out kit.

Tip though: if such a thing does happen, don't go unwrapping presents right away. Keep some wrapped if you can.

Daywolf

10-06-2016, 09:51 AM

Anyway as far as things are looking, It doesn't seem 0bama even has a plan worked out with what he want's to drag us into. There was a white house meeting of 0bama's cabinet-level officials yesterday on "options for the way forward in Syria". There is a National Security Counsel meeting -maybe- this weekend where 0bama will attend (the NSC has been at it for weeks) or maybe play golf. Both 0bama and his VP are chilling at the WH having (((lunch))) and blowing hot air to the press about the Shimon Peres funeral 0bama attended. The Russians come out of their holes tomorrow, within 24hrs.

Lots of confirmed bogus news out there though, like a scramble of nuclear CnC E6B aircraft, among other things. I mean if you really want to troll some social site right now, plenty of crud lanks to be had.

Ahldagor

10-06-2016, 10:10 AM

Well you know, with the invention of the ruler, it just seemed like a fitting place to drop on a map and start drawing little straight lines with a crayon. Before then, there was always peace there, ya know?! Those silly Brits, they should have used a slide-ruler!
but ya know..
at least you're trying :)

Odd, does CNN and NBC/MSNBC have nothing to say on this issue? I did a google search on anything mentioned of Russia from those sites (Russia Site:****** etc.) and for the past week, and hardly a thing came up besides accusations of Russia poisoning US diplomats etc. Otherwise they are pretty much running stories of "Scary Clowns" -like junk on the front page of their website ...well looked at CNN anyway, big ugly clown on the index page. (edit: just looked at msnbc, no clowns, only videos of clown hosts)

I only see this coming out of non-MSM sites and some UK sites. Same with searching Google news in general, just non-MSM sites. It's not a Google problem either, I searched duckduckgo and came up nil just the same.

I mean a third of Russia just went underground, this isn't news worthy for MSM in the least?

You guys are left with nothing to copy-paste for at least a half-hearted response against the fact :(
#OMGScaryClowns :eek:

What did you edit into the original post? Address the metaphor at all?

Daywolf

10-06-2016, 10:44 AM

What did you edit into the original post? Address the metaphor at all?
Oh, um... just a your instead of you're what I recall. I flipped away for 10min after posting and read and error when I got back. Anyway, yeah, they screwed up the borders in a sense. I don't think it would have really solved anything though. Things might have even been worse; a united middle-east and needing someone to fight. But no lack of fights out of there in known history.

entruil

10-06-2016, 11:17 AM

They Think i'm Crazy When I Talk About the NWO - What do I do? - Chris White (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qziRlhsY8pE)
*after watching more I didn't realize how much he was preaching in it, would have to study and compare more*
*the beginning still worth watching for people that hate that kind of stuff*

not saying I watched whole thing and it's old, but what I did watch was pretty accurate and I wish I would of seen it years ago....

Nihilist_santa

10-06-2016, 11:25 AM

They Think i'm Crazy When I Talk About the NWO - What do I do? - Chris White (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qziRlhsY8pE)

not saying I watched whole thing and it's old, but what I did watch was pretty accurate and I wish I would of seen it years ago....

Chris White is a good dude. I used to listen to his podcast about 10 years ago. He had some pretty decent debunking vids when Zeitgeist came around. Think he became a teacher so I havent seen much from him lately.

azeth

10-06-2016, 01:17 PM

Nihilist_santa

10-06-2016, 01:27 PM

Ahldagor

10-06-2016, 01:28 PM

Oh, um... just a your instead of you're what I recall. I flipped away for 10min after posting and read and error when I got back. Anyway, yeah, they screwed up the borders in a sense. I don't think it would have really solved anything though. Things might have even been worse; a united middle-east and needing someone to fight. But no lack of fights out of there in known history.

The Ottomans kept a lot of folks in line for sure. I really think the rise of secularism and two world wars with their spoils are what we're seeing the effects of over all.

big_ole_jpn

10-06-2016, 01:30 PM

Nihilist_santa

10-06-2016, 01:32 PM

The Ottomans kept a lot of folks in line for sure. I really think the rise of secularism and two world wars with their spoils are what we're seeing the effects of over all.

Are you saying secularism is bad for the Islamic world?

http://i.imgur.com/Fmh6xZT.jpg

Baler

10-06-2016, 02:35 PM

http://i.imgur.com/7e6UT8T.gif

barrettdc1

10-06-2016, 03:15 PM

maskedmelon

10-06-2016, 03:28 PM

The idea that any of you feel like you're educated, intelligent, or knowledgeable enough to even have an opinion on US/Russia relations embarasses me as an American & human being.

Just by the nature of posting your opinions about the topic on the PROJECT 1999 OFF TOPIC section of the forums should be telling enough that your opinion and every opinion you've read is totally irrelevant and likely factually untrue.

I don't feel like anything but a repugnant whore of rational thought :c There are plenty of people far more educated, intelligent, knowledgeable and important to whom I have long since ceded every wet ounce of my intellectual sovereignty. Don't worry Az, there is no original thought here and you are most welcome to come parrot alongside us ^^

Baler

10-06-2016, 03:28 PM

LET THE NUKES FLY KILL THE WHOLE WORLD!!!

Tasslehofp99

10-06-2016, 03:35 PM

The idea that any of you feel like you're educated, intelligent, or knowledgeable enough to even have an opinion on US/Russia relations embarasses me as an American & human being.

Just by the nature of posting your opinions about the topic on the PROJECT 1999 OFF TOPIC section of the forums should be telling enough that your opinion and every opinion you've read is totally irrelevant and likely factually untrue.

Azeth visits these forums solely to demonstrate how intellectually superior he is to everyone or just bash anyone he disagrees with.

Ahldagor

10-06-2016, 03:43 PM

Are you saying secularism is bad for the Islamic world?

http://i.imgur.com/Fmh6xZT.jpg

Nope. Think it's a good thing over all.

Baler

10-06-2016, 03:47 PM

http://i.imgur.com/Jj3W9WN.gif

AzzarTheGod

10-06-2016, 04:09 PM

Azeth visits these forums solely to demonstrate how intellectually superior he is to everyone or just bash anyone he disagrees with.

u seem smart hehe can u tell me y I visit these forums too

Baler

10-06-2016, 04:38 PM

http://i.imgur.com/Ilmys3l.gif

Baler

10-06-2016, 04:40 PM

When the nukes fly you won't have enough time to breath, eat, sleep or imagine.
You will die.

Don't let Nuclear war happen please.

Nihilist_santa

10-06-2016, 04:58 PM

He had an interesting idea about a false anti-christ. I thought it had some merit. Basically he felt that "NWO/ZOG" would float a fake anti-christ type. Then their own antichrist comes in and defeats that dude. Everyone bows down and worships him etc as the defeater of ZOG/NWO

AzzarTheGod

10-06-2016, 05:04 PM

Chris White is a good dude. I used to listen to his podcast about 10 years ago. He had some pretty decent debunking vids when Zeitgeist came around. Think he became a teacher so I havent seen much from him lately.

Pretty good video for its social commentary.

Especially the bit about women. I'll find myself casually talking about speeding tickets, after I just sped 100mph to the bar, and casually mention I had a great radar detector system, the K-40 at one point to cover me on stuff like that.

And the K-40 is different than a garbage radar detector for X Y Z reasons. She doesn't care that in fact, its not a radar detector, its a radar interdiction system that's fully intelligent with range up to 2 miles front and back. She doesn't care that it intelligently detects radar gun fire, and the threat level, including direct hits. She doesn't care that its directional and you can tell if a cop is INCOMING or ONCOMING.

She mentions her speeding tickets in Upstate NY. etc. more small talk.

All under a 5 minute small talk convo while picking up food.

^ THATS ALL GUY STUFF. TECHNOLOGY IS A GUY THING. WE Aren't EQUAL, CULTURAL MARXISM IS A LIE. We aren't wired the same. Women aren't wired for competition, she doesn't care that the K-40 basically allows you to speed as much as you want without any real problems as long as you know the roads and keep your eyes sharp.

SHE DOESN"T INTENTIONALLY SPEED. SPEEDING IS A COMPETITIVE THING. WOMEN ARENT COMPETITIVE. SHE GOT 2 TICKETS BECAUSE SHES A DUNCE, NOT BECAUSE SHES A SPEEDER. IT WAS UNINTENTIONAL.

She doesn't care that the K-40 costs 1,500 dollars and requires factory installation.

Shes basic. Treat her like shes mentally special, act like willie wonka in the original movie and smile cutely at anything she says. Quip back at her, don't inform her.

She also has kids, and you can smell the desperation. Steer clear.

maskedmelon

10-06-2016, 05:22 PM

I don't think speeding is inherently competitive... Not paying attention is quickest way to a ticket though. I cannot count how many times I've spotted popo in the shadows and hit my brakes only to see the car in front or behind me get hit for going slower than me :/

I think the biggest difference in driving between men and women is men just don't care about anyone. It's like they don't even give a thought to what the person in the car next to or across from them is going to do. They just drive and do whatever they want without even trying to communicate with anyone. It's most certainly the reason men are more prone to more traffic violations and are reasonably charged higher insurance rates. It's nothing to do with competition it's just wanton disregard for fellow drivers.

I'm not saying everyone needs to smile and cede their turn to someone else at every four way stop (thouggh it can be a nice gesture sometimes), but ffs at least try to understand what the other person is aiming to do. A lot men can learn from women about driving.

aMindAmok

10-06-2016, 05:39 PM

Maybe I am just a magnet for a certain type of woman. Every woman, and I mean every single one of them, that I have ever dated has been the most reckless drivers ever. They swerve in and out of traffic like crazy people. They don't care that they will be needing to make a right turn in 200 feet. The guy in the middle lane is only doing 10 mph over the speed limit and they just have to get ahead of them. I have never experienced this world where women are the more careful drivers. I would like to meet one of them.

Lune

10-06-2016, 05:45 PM

Pretty good video for its social commentary.

Especially the bit about women. I'll find myself casually talking about speeding tickets, after I just sped 100mph to the bar, and casually mention I had a great radar detector system, the K-40 at one point to cover me on stuff like that.

And the K-40 is different than a garbage radar detector for X Y Z reasons. She doesn't care that in fact, its not a radar detector, its a radar interdiction system that's fully intelligent with range up to 2 miles front and back. She doesn't care that it intelligently detects radar gun fire, and the threat level, including direct hits. She doesn't care that its directional and you can tell if a cop is INCOMING or ONCOMING.

She mentions her speeding tickets in Upstate NY. etc. more small talk.

All under a 5 minute small talk convo while picking up food.

^ THATS ALL GUY STUFF. TECHNOLOGY IS A GUY THING. WE Aren't EQUAL, CULTURAL MARXISM IS A LIE. We aren't wired the same. Women aren't wired for competition, she doesn't care that the K-40 basically allows you to speed as much as you want without any real problems as long as you know the roads and keep your eyes sharp.

SHE DOESN"T INTENTIONALLY SPEED. SPEEDING IS A COMPETITIVE THING. WOMEN ARENT COMPETITIVE. SHE GOT 2 TICKETS BECAUSE SHES A DUNCE, NOT BECAUSE SHES A SPEEDER. IT WAS UNINTENTIONAL.

She doesn't care that the K-40 costs 1,500 dollars and requires factory installation.

Shes basic. Treat her like shes mentally special, act like willie wonka in the original movie and smile cutely at anything she says. Quip back at her, don't inform her.

She also has kids, and you can smell the desperation. Steer clear.

Hope you wrap yourself around a tree you literal retard. People like you are the reason men pay higher auto insurance rates.

maskedmelon

10-06-2016, 05:57 PM

Men pay higher insurance rates because they're reckless. Women aren't reckless. Sure, maybe miss a turn or something because you couldn't get over, but that's because I like men, women actually try to make sure what the other person is doing and acknowledges the move. Men just get over whenever the hell they want often causing people to slam on their breaks. The only time women do that is like if they are being pressured.

I think women do struggle with spatial relations though. Men seem to have a better understanding of like the bounds of their car and stuff and I don't think that is just because men drive more than women. Good test is to have a man and a woman try to pack the same set of items of different sizes and shapes into the same size container. The man will generally do a better job because their brains are tailored to simple tasks like that. Men are inherently more visual it's why it isn't difficult to find an attractive girl with an ugly-ass old man, but not so easy to find the opposite. Probably also the reason men don't suffer more traffic violations then they do despite their recklessness.

AzzarTheGod

10-06-2016, 06:01 PM

Hope you wrap yourself around a tree you literal retard. People like you are the reason men pay higher auto insurance rates.

Hope you wrap yourself around a tree you literal retard. People like you are the reason men pay higher auto insurance rates.

ITT people get angry about speeding on open roads.

I've been speeding for about 8-9 years, probably closer to 10. I have sped every single day of my life. Never even had a close call. Only accidents I have been in are between 0-25mph, but never was found to be at fault. Have only been struck by other drivers 0-25mph, have never struck another driver 0-25mph. But all accidents involved in my 10 year course of speeding history have been between 0-25mph.

My Adderall script is actually written for compulsive speeding and a desire to read articles on phone unless I can "speed" or travel at a higher rate of speed than whats allowed. Its genetic.

If I cant speed, I get anxiety and have to read articles or multi-task my phone which is even more dangerous. So in this case, you would be the generic vanilla run of the mill Sanders voting retard for making an implication without all the facts.

Its either articles + speed limit, or speeding + no articles. Which would you choose, retard?

I have been cited probably 15-20 times, without any sign of reform. It would appear at this point, this is not going to change any time soon. Driving school x2, and 1 suspension about 10 years ago.

Your little driving school you would so dearly fund (((Lune))) was fucking worthless. None of it connected with me, not a single page or single class made any human connection with my personal situation. Yet you would have them keep funding it :rolleyes:

Lune

10-06-2016, 06:18 PM

ITT people get angry about speeding on open roads.

I've been speeding for about 8-9 years, probably closer to 10. I have sped every single day of my life. Never even had a close call. Only accidents I have been in are between 0-25mph, but never was found to be at fault. Have only been struck by other drivers 0-25mph, have never struck another driver 0-25mph. But all accidents involved in my 10 year course of speeding history have been between 0-25mph.

My uncle smoked cigarettes for 60 years without getting lung cancer; that's hardly compelling evidence that cigarettes aren't risky. Your personal track record with reckless driving isn't evidence for speeding being safe. It just means your elevated risk of accidental death or injury hasn't cashed in yet. "Speeding is safe because I haven't crashed yet". Yikes. Ask the insurance company actuaries whether that's sound logic.

My Adderall script is actually written for compulsive speeding and a desire to read articles on phone unless I can "speed" or travel at a higher rate of speed than whats allowed. Its genetic.

If I cant speed, I get anxiety and have to read articles or multi-task my phone which is even more dangerous. So in this case, you would be the generic vanilla run of the mill Sanders voting retard for making an implication without all the facts.

Its either articles + speed limit, or speeding + no articles. Which would you choose, retard?

I have been cited probably 15-20 times, without any sign of reform. It would appear at this point, this is not going to change any time soon. Driving school x2, and 1 suspension about 10 years ago.

Your little driving school you would so dearly fund (((Lune))) was fucking worthless. None of it connected with me, not a single page or single class made any human connection with my personal situation. Yet you would have them keep funding it :rolleyes:

I'd choose: If you aren't fit to drive safely, don't drive. It's obvious you need your license revoked.

Why shouldn't a reasonable person be angry about people speeding on open roads? I have to use these roads too, you think I want some mongoloid doped up on adderall speeding around at 100+? What if you blow a tire? What if I blow a tire? What if some idiot turns out in front of me, and you're behind me going 100? What if your superhuman reflexes lapse momentarily and you lose control? We have speed limits for a reason. 5 over, 10 over, that's not a problem, but you've admitted going into the reckless range.

Pokesan

10-06-2016, 06:23 PM

When the nukes fly you won't have enough time to breath, eat, sleep or imagine.
You will die.

Don't let Nuclear war happen please.

explain why this is a bad thing

you cuck

skarlorn

10-06-2016, 06:44 PM

If I die in a blaze of nuclear glory I would never have to lay eyes on trash posts by trash posters in a trash elf cesspit

Jarnauga

10-06-2016, 06:46 PM

AzzarTheGod

10-06-2016, 06:57 PM

My uncle smoked cigarettes for 60 years without getting lung cancer; that's hardly compelling evidence that cigarettes aren't risky. Your personal track record with reckless driving isn't evidence for speeding being safe. It just means your elevated risk of accidental death or injury hasn't cashed in yet. "Speeding is safe because I haven't crashed yet". Yikes. Ask the insurance company actuaries whether that's sound logic.

I'd choose: If you aren't fit to drive safely, don't drive. It's obvious you need your license revoked.

Why shouldn't a reasonable person be angry about people speeding on open roads? I have to use these roads too, you think I want some mongoloid doped up on adderall speeding around at 100+? What if you blow a tire? What if I blow a tire? What if some idiot turns out in front of me, and you're behind me going 100? What if your superhuman reflexes lapse momentarily and you lose control? We have speed limits for a reason. 5 over, 10 over, that's not a problem, but you've admitted going into the reckless range.

A blowout is a big fear of mine (I realize maintaining good tires and wheels means fuckall) and the only thing that curbs it. 85ish is my preferred cruising speed for personal comfort but if I'm late I'll get over 90 roads permitting.

My dad is in his 60's and a businessman and he's pretty much the same way his entire life. My long distance braking and brake dragging habits(I'm constantly either braking or about to brake) are much safer than his herky-jerky reliance on performance brakes but he drives a different type of car.

Most literature I've read points to a genetic norepinephrine disorder, and not a dopamine disorder. But the Adderall helps so I'd never argue against it. In the Gilbert's syndrome community (liver condition I have) is where I found out more about this compulsive desire to instantaneously complete motor tasks. Most members there self-report the same feelings and behaviors over the history of the web.

But that said, I think a lot of people feel most comfortable around 80-85 on the highway.

I always signal (quick flash) even if I'm in the left lane when making a pass if I feel the speed difference is too great ex middle lane going 55 and I'm trying to maintain 80. Sometimes I do it European style (despite Americans having no idea what it means) and leave the left directional on when traveling over 80

I'm always eyeballing the car I'm passing and anticipating dumb stuff like drifting or an attempted lazy no-look lane change.

The speed we are talking about is mostly highway. I don't consider 55-60 in a 40 after 8 pm all that dangerous.

skarlorn

10-06-2016, 06:59 PM

ITT people confuse correlation and causality

Men have more accidents than women, it doesn't mean that they have more accidents because they're men.

If an insurance company makes you pay more just because you're a guy, you're being screwed
French ppl fuck frogs and let their women get raped by isis.

Where does that correlate to you?

Ahldagor

10-06-2016, 07:07 PM

A blowout is a big fear of mine (I realize maintaining good tires and wheels means fuckall) and the only thing that curbs it. 85ish is my preferred cruising speed for personal comfort but if I'm late I'll get over 90 roads permitting.

My dad is in his 60's and a businessman and he's pretty much the same way his entire life. My long distance braking and brake dragging habits(I'm constantly either braking or about to brake) are much safer than his herky-jerky reliance on performance brakes but he drives a different type of car.

Most literature I've read points to a genetic norepinephrine disorder, and not a dopamine disorder. But the Adderall helps so I'd never argue against it. In the Gilbert's syndrome community (liver condition I have) is where I found out more about this compulsive desire to instantaneously complete motor tasks. Most members there self-report the same feelings and behaviors over the history of the web.

But that said, I think a lot of people feel most comfortable around 80-85 on the highway.

I always signal (quick flash) even if I'm in the left lane when making a pass if I feel the speed difference is too great ex middle lane going 55 and I'm trying to maintain 80. Sometimes I do it European style (despite Americans having no idea what it means) and leave the left directional on when traveling over 80

I'm always eyeballing the car I'm passing and anticipating dumb stuff like drifting or an attempted lazy no-look lane change.

The speed we are talking about is mostly highway. I don't consider 55-60 in a 40 after 8 pm all that dangerous.

Good to beware a blow out. Saw a truck, supped up late 60's chevy, that had a blowout and go head first into a semi's trailer today. Left lane to right.

Jarnauga

10-06-2016, 07:12 PM

French ppl fuck frogs and let their women get raped by isis.

Where does that correlate to you?

http://i.imgur.com/kAZH1aL.png
http://i.imgur.com/seh6p.gif

R Flair

10-06-2016, 07:14 PM

Of course if you are living outside of the inner cities of places like Chicago, Philly, Detroit etc, those rates go down by like 90%.

Im sure its fun to pretend otherwise as they run the flag of ISIS up the poles of your governmental buildings

Lune

10-06-2016, 07:16 PM

ITT people confuse correlation and causality

Men have more accidents than women, it doesn't mean that they have more accidents because they're men.

If an insurance company makes you pay more just because you're a guy, you're being screwed

How is that exactly? My testosterone and other sex characteristics verifiably predispose me to risky and reckless behavior, which is something that has been demonstrated scientifically. The fact that my cognitive abilities and temperament keep that elevated risk under control and negate it doesn't matter; the insurance company doesn't know I'm level-headed, and actuaries have no realistic way to model that (except stuff like my age and GPA).

Correlation is sufficient for this kind of judgment. Who cares why increasing age signals a reduced likelihood of accidents? The insurance company just needs to know that it does, so they can peg my rates to my aggregate risk.

Conceptually, paying more because you are a guy is no different than paying less because you have a safe driving record, a safe car, good grades, elevated age, etc. They are all valid indicators of risk.

AzzarTheGod

10-06-2016, 07:20 PM

yaw all it takes is a few azzars to ruin it 4 everyone else.

except when it comes to gun laws.

maskedmelon

10-06-2016, 07:22 PM

yaw all it takes is a few azzars to ruin it 4 everyone else.

except when it comes to gun laws.

lol

Jarnauga

10-06-2016, 07:36 PM

Conceptually, paying more because you are a guy is no different than paying less because you have a safe driving record, a safe car, good grades, elevated age, etc. They are all valid indicators of risk.

i totally disagree, you can't help being a guy, you didn't choose it (whatever some SJWs think). You actually chose to respect road laws, etc. If you're involved in an accident that you were found responsible for (i'm simplifying obviously), yeah i'm fine with making him pay more because of his record. the difference being you're not just a statistic, it's your actual responsibility as a person, and that's a big deal.

i don't know how it is in the USA, but in here if i had to pay more because i was a guy, there would be an outrage, it would be considered discrimination..

maskedmelon

10-06-2016, 07:44 PM

Is this where I come for a lobotomy?

Lolololipopol ^^

Probably not do anything for me, but whatever....

Really Jar?

REALLY?

R Flair

10-06-2016, 07:44 PM

Ya, well in the real world insurance policies don't give a shit about social justice.

Jarnauga

10-06-2016, 08:03 PM

Ya, well in the real world insurance policies don't give a shit about social justice.

it's not even about social justice, lol

Let's assume i'm ben carson. I'm black. Statistically speaking, blacks are arrested more, deal with more crimes, etc, etc. So i shouldn't be running for president.

See, that's fucked up. Because it assumes stuff just based on his appartenance on a groupe he didn't choose at all. In a sense that's not that far from the casts system in India ! You happened to be born an untouchable ? well too bad for you, fuck you and your perfect record, you're an untouchable and that's it.

Now let's assume i'm timothy mcveigh, and i didn't do the bombings.I'm white, statistically speaking i am the most "lawful". I apply to the FBI, and i won't get in. Why ? because my record shows (i assume) that i had political ties to potential domestic terrorist groups. And that's fine, and how it should be. And i assume it's how it happens actually.

Is our western society so fucked up that you can't escape a destiny that has been chosen at your birth and that you have no grasp on ? that's the opposite of the ways that made the whole world envy us. fuck that.

maskedmelon

10-06-2016, 08:13 PM

Treating all options as equally risky until loss is actually realized is irresponsible.

Lune

10-06-2016, 08:20 PM

it's not even about social justice, lol

Let's assume i'm ben carson. I'm black. Statistically speaking, blacks are arrested more, deal with more crimes, etc, etc. So i shouldn't be running for president.

See, that's fucked up. Because it assumes stuff just based on his appartenance on a groupe he didn't choose at all. In a sense that's not that far from the casts system in India ! You happened to be born an untouchable ? well too bad for you, fuck you and your perfect record, you're an untouchable and that's it.

Now let's assume i'm timothy mcveigh, and i didn't do the bombings.I'm white, statistically speaking i am the most "lawful". I apply to the FBI, and i won't get in. Why ? because my record shows (i assume) that i had political ties to potential domestic terrorist groups. And that's fine, and how it should be. And i assume it's how it happens actually.

Is our western society so fucked up that you can't escape a destiny that has been chosen at your birth and that you have no grasp on ? that's the opposite of the ways that made the whole world envy us. fuck that.

Ignoring any supposed connection between blacks and crime and following your metaphor, it's different because we have the ability to vet Ben Carson. "Oh okay, well even though he's black, he's not a criminal, he's an accomplished surgeon."

Insurance companies don't have the ability to vet you in detail. They have to go on proven indicators of risk. Your gender is a proven indicator of risk. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that's how it is, and why it's like that. It's the same reason our health insurance companies used to scalp people who were smokers, had diabetes, or genetic triggers for cancer.

It's not sensitive or clean, but it's the way it works. It's one of the reasons I think insurance enterprises should be run by the government. Collective risk management should be part of the social contract. Profit motive provides little improvement in the business of insurance, it pretty much just makes it more parasitic and manifests almost entirely in branding.

Jarnauga

10-06-2016, 08:27 PM

Ignoring any supposed connection between blacks and crime and following your metaphor, it's different because we have the ability to vet Ben Carson. "Oh okay, well even though he's black, he's not a criminal, he's an accomplished surgeon."

Insurance companies don't have the ability to vet you in detail. They have to go on proven indicators of risk. Your gender is a proven indicator of risk. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that's how it is, and why it's like that. It's the same reason our health insurance companies used to scalp people who were smokers, had diabetes, or genetic triggers for cancer.

It's not sensitive or clean, but it's the way it works. It's one of the reasons I think insurance enterprises should be run by the government. Profit motive provides little improvement in the business of insurance, it pretty much just makes it more parasitic and manifests almost entirely in branding.

THere's a proven scientific link between smoking and getting lung cancer

I saw some SJWs that think all men are potential rapists. Well guess what, 90% of rapes are committed by men. I guess they're right then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I just think that we can do better as a society, and if private companies use discrimination tactics to justify their profits, it's fucked up and should be look into by justice.

Also, i don't know how it is in the us, but insurance companies have a way to vet people, similar to how banks do to see if you pay your loans.