View Full Version : Democrats are out there only to manipulate you.
mickmoranis
09-30-2016, 05:35 PM
"Ginsberg told VICE News, then bureaucrats "nudge people into obedience." In fact, 'nudge' has been the PR-friendly word of choice for bureaucratic regulations in the Obama era. Cass Sunstein, Obama's Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, even co-wrote a book in 2008 called Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health Wealth, and Happiness that lays out how the government can use behavioral psychology to more efficiently achieve policy goals. They dubbed it libertarian paternalism."
https://news.vice.com/article/washingtons-governing-elites-think-were-all-morons-a-new-study-says?utm_source=vicenewsfbads&utm_campaign=posteng
You cant argue that the democratic party isn't about to turn into the republican one, when they literally write books about how they're going to do it.
AzzarTheGod
09-30-2016, 06:01 PM
I don't see how. the republicans aren't cultural Marxists.
entruil
09-30-2016, 06:15 PM
I wonder if "he"(sic) really lost his job. =(
JurisDictum
09-30-2016, 07:15 PM
"In their new book What Washington Gets Wrong, Ginsberg and Bachner report that the overwhelming majority of D.C.'s Beltway Insiders think the American public is pitifully uninformed on government policy. 72 percent of those governing officials think the public has little or no knowledge about policies to aid the poor. 71 percent believe that they have little or no knowledge about science and technology. And across eight different policy areas, never more than 6 percent of those surveyed thought the public possessed a "great deal" of knowledge on the topic."
And their absolutely right. Most people have no clue about any individual policy area or even a general grasp on how our government works. They just know its bad and they should have to spend non of their time explaining how -- or otherwise learning anything about the problem.
This entire article misses an important point. It is hard to actually be well informed about the details of something like healthcare regulations. People have shit to do in their lives besides becoming experts on every political issue. The problem with our system isn't that everyone isn't a professional technocrat on important issues -- its that working people very commonly have no one speaking for them.
entruil
09-30-2016, 07:20 PM
"In their new book What Washington Gets Wrong, Ginsberg and Bachner report that the overwhelming majority of D.C.'s Beltway Insiders think the American public is pitifully uninformed on government policy. 72 percent of those governing officials think the public has little or no knowledge about policies to aid the poor. 71 percent believe that they have little or no knowledge about science and technology. And across eight different policy areas, never more than 6 percent of those surveyed thought the public possessed a "great deal" of knowledge on the topic."
And their absolutely right. Most people have no clue about any individual policy area or even a general grasp on how our government works. They just know its bad and they should have to spend non of their time explaining how -- or otherwise learning anything about the problem.
This entire article misses an important point. It is hard to actually be well informed about the details of something like healthcare regulations. People have shit to do in their lives besides becoming experts on every political issue. The problem with our system isn't that everyone isn't a professional technocrat on important issues -- its that working people very commonly have no one speaking for them.
didn't read, already sperged about....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wbwdoeJWuI
*will give fair shake when able... +1
Jarnauga
09-30-2016, 07:27 PM
TIL politicians manipulate people
thanks OP, i'll be forever in your debt
Angushjalmur
09-30-2016, 07:29 PM
Jarn here is a militant liberal, so xe takes it personally when anyone points out the depravity of democraps
Swish
09-30-2016, 07:39 PM
I read the thread title and instantly wanted to vote for Trump, is that bad?
Angushjalmur
09-30-2016, 07:40 PM
I read the thread title and instantly wanted to vote for Trump, is that bad?
Quite the contrary. Means you don't have brain damage or mental illness
entruil
09-30-2016, 07:45 PM
Jarn here is a militant liberal, so xe takes it personally when anyone points out the depravity of democraps
no
Sage Truthbearer
09-30-2016, 07:45 PM
Quite the contrary. Means you don't have brain damage or mental illness
Nah, I'm pretty sure getting your political education from an everquest emulator forum means you definitely have brain damage or mental illness.
entruil
09-30-2016, 07:47 PM
I read the thread title and instantly wanted to vote for Trump, is that bad?
lion gif > all... peace...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/10072420/Creator-of-the-GIF-says-it-is-pronounced-Jif.html
'Commentator Caitlin Moran summed up the backlash: "Twitter quite obdurate you will prize "gif" out of our cold, dead three-second clip-looped hands." '
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im just havin fun tho ("People")... sry and peace
Angushjalmur
09-30-2016, 07:59 PM
Nah, I'm pretty sure getting your political education from an everquest emulator forum means you definitely have brain damage or mental illness.
My political education comes from over a decade of study and research.
NEXT
Jarnauga
09-30-2016, 08:47 PM
Jarn here is a militant liberal, so xe takes it personally when anyone points out the depravity of democraps
you shouldn't try to evaluate my political orientation with the american political framework.. even the word "liberal" doesn't have the same meaning in europe compared to the us ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Angushjalmur
09-30-2016, 09:32 PM
you shouldn't try to evaluate my political orientation with the american political framework.. even the word "liberal" doesn't have the same meaning in europe compared to the us ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're the equivalent of an american liberal then
But if you're european, you should probably go back to reading the quran and stop commenting on american politics
mickmoranis
09-30-2016, 11:07 PM
Its going to be really disappointing when trump is just a regular president and doesn't burn everyone in a lake of hellfire.
entruil
09-30-2016, 11:18 PM
really disappointing lake of hellfire.
http://i.imgur.com/w4o5515.jpg
hahah , , ,;
hahah;
Daywolf
10-01-2016, 12:33 AM
Its going to be really disappointing when trump is just a regular president and doesn't burn everyone in a lake of hellfire.
Yeah, well he'll be pretty much up to his eyeballs trying to defuse WWIII, I mean if it can be stopped. With everything 0bama and Clinton has done, it's only pushed nations into alliances that may not be easily defused (e.g. Russia + crazy Iran). If we had been truly trying to stop terrorist groups like ISIS, we would have been working with Russia to try to accomplish such a thing. But rather we have simply been arming ISIS and using them in our proxy-war against those alliances while we build up troops and missiles near the Russian boarders as our politicians literally scream for Russian body bags.
Russia and the US have up until the cold war been ~friends of same interests. I mean not only ww2, but ww1, and even (ww0) the American revolution (the League of Armed Neutrality) where every time the British tried to negotiate Russian troops to join with them, it failed, and then Russia even built it's own alliance (LoAN) which tried to pressure Britain into peace negotiations over the America's especially due to Britain's reckless maritime war policy.
But right now, Western journalism is absolute crud, and we are in a really really bad situation with everything happening which mostly goes unreported in the West. Trump is aware of it, has spoke out on it at least enough to force some mention into the western media as they hang on his every word trying to catch that moment when they can trip him up, destroy him and make a name for themselves.
Nihilist_santa
10-01-2016, 12:04 PM
You're the equivalent of an american liberal then
But if you're european, you should probably go back to reading the quran and stop commenting on american politics
http://i.imgur.com/iPXJOXb.gif
He's heating up!
mickmoranis
10-01-2016, 02:23 PM
Yeah, well he'll be pretty much up to his eyeballs trying to defuse WWIII, I mean if it can be stopped. With everything 0bama and Clinton has done, it's only pushed nations into alliances that may not be easily defused (e.g. Russia + crazy Iran). If we had been truly trying to stop terrorist groups like ISIS, we would have been working with Russia to try to accomplish such a thing. But rather we have simply been arming ISIS and using them in our proxy-war against those alliances while we build up troops and missiles near the Russian boarders as our politicians literally scream for Russian body bags.
Russia and the US have up until the cold war been ~friends of same interests. I mean not only ww2, but ww1, and even (ww0) the American revolution (the League of Armed Neutrality) where every time the British tried to negotiate Russian troops to join with them, it failed, and then Russia even built it's own alliance (LoAN) which tried to pressure Britain into peace negotiations over the America's especially due to Britain's reckless maritime war policy.
But right now, Western journalism is absolute crud, and we are in a really really bad situation with everything happening which mostly goes unreported in the West. Trump is aware of it, has spoke out on it at least enough to force some mention into the western media as they hang on his every word trying to catch that moment when they can trip him up, destroy him and make a name for themselves.
So you're saying I should vote for Hillary, so after ww3 starts we can blame democrats instead of Trump? Which is exactly what they'll do no matter what should it start under his watch.. even though we agree it started about 6 years ago.
(ww0) the American revolution
Not worldwide by a large margin.
skarlorn
10-01-2016, 04:06 PM
I read the thread title and instantly wanted to vote for Trump, is that bad?
Really good post here, glad to see it Swish. Summed up my thoughts.
Glad I didn't read anything else in thread.
Daywolf
10-01-2016, 08:00 PM
So you're saying I should vote for Hillary, so after ww3 starts we can blame democrats instead of Trump? Which is exactly what they'll do no matter what should it start under his watch.. even though we agree it started about 6 years ago.6 years... when Hillary and the Russian Foreign Minister pressed the ceremonial ICBM launch.... I mean (((reset))) button? Odd you say we agree, I just thought of that last month with that button and haven't said anything here in forums, but it seems we do agree. That's what it has seemed to turn into anyway since then. A ceremonial practice run in the least. Then it went into overcharge (lots of button meme's on that) as troops and weapons shifted around the globe I've been watching, alliances formed and proxy-wars (Syria) broke out.
My main concern whether or not it's stoppable, the Russians are now operating a joint military base with Iran. For Iran that's about unheard of, they don't let foreign troops in. Iran does want a big war, it's a belief of their muslim sect. Russia being there means likely there was some regional focused agreement, maybe a price to be paid after Syria. Looks like a campaign to me. Russia even just told us again not to get involved with Syria as they launch the battle for Aleppo. They are suggesting that it could turn into a regional war if we conduct strikes on Syria as they move into Aleppo.
I don't know, it's looking pretty bad. The Russians have no animosity towards the Don, he might be able to at least get the US uninvolved, but then we'll be on our own as we watch the world melt around us perhaps. But even then I doubt we would go unscathed with the likely sleeper-cell activations within our borders.
mickmoranis
10-02-2016, 12:04 AM
deep i wonder how much time we have left to play p99 going to miss u pals after the poceclypse
Daywolf
10-02-2016, 12:47 AM
deep i wonder how much time we have left to play p99 going to miss u pals after the poceclypse
See, we might disagree there though. Depends on your angle. I don't necessarily connect WW3 to the/a/an apocalypse. Which "Apocalypse"? Muslim apocalypse, jewish apocalypse, the liberal-lefts apocalypse, the Hollywood apocalypse, the catholic apocalypse, the hindu apocalypse, I could just go on and on with these ^^
Doesn't mean there won't be, but there are a lot of views on it and some around here often claim I'm speaking of some apocalypse when I mention updates to what's going on with the war. That being mostly from the propaganda liberal-left/hollywood view of ww3 and an apocalypse.
See, personally, I think life goes on long after this point in time right now, which means no "apocalypse" in the near future, since everyone dies in a real apocalypse. But that's my opinion. Then plenty of tactical ww3 scenarios out there where life goes on. Most of the lefts propaganda was targeted at the West to get us to surrender, to be weakened so we can be easily conquered. Which really would invite such an apocalypse imo. I mean really it is, it's a manipulation, alarmist propaganda of the left to get us to conform to their idea of how the world should be.
entruil
10-02-2016, 11:25 AM
See, we might disagree there though. Depends on your angle. I don't necessarily connect WW3 to the/a/an apocalypse. Which "Apocalypse"? Muslim apocalypse, jewish apocalypse, the liberal-lefts apocalypse, the Hollywood apocalypse, the catholic apocalypse, the hindu apocalypse, I could just go on and on with these ^^
Doesn't mean there won't be, but there are a lot of views on it and some around here often claim I'm speaking of some apocalypse when I mention updates to what's going on with the war. That being mostly from the propaganda liberal-left/hollywood view of ww3 and an apocalypse.
See, personally, I think life goes on long after this point in time right now, which means no "apocalypse" in the near future, since everyone dies in a real apocalypse. But that's my opinion. Then plenty of tactical ww3 scenarios out there where life goes on. Most of the lefts propaganda was targeted at the West to get us to surrender, to be weakened so we can be easily conquered. Which really would invite such an apocalypse imo. I mean really it is, it's a manipulation, alarmist propaganda of the left to get us to conform to their idea of how the world should be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
Daywolf
10-02-2016, 08:03 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_MagogYou make no point, that's an interfaith style page with even Muslim references. Mog & Magog are multiple wars spanning 1000 years between them, from original writings of it excluding muslim like on that page. It's very manipulated so that people can make movies like "the day after" and get you to surrender your freedoms to the leftists etc. There hasn't been a first battle yet, of no record or recovered dig site from 1k years ago. It would be of significant historical record if so, not a mystery.
entruil
10-03-2016, 07:57 AM
You make no point, that's an interfaith style page with even Muslim references. Mog & Magog are multiple wars spanning 1000 years between them, from original writings of it excluding muslim like on that page. It's very manipulated so that people can make movies like "the day after" and get you to surrender your freedoms to the leftists etc. There hasn't been a first battle yet, of no record or recovered dig site from 1k years ago. It would be of significant historical record if so, not a mystery.
eh, maybe it wasn't the best way to allude to self-fulfilling prophecies and cognitive dissonance (can those 2 things go together?)...
maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology is better...
Jarnauga
10-03-2016, 12:22 PM
Daywolf told me in another thread that WW3 already started ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks obama
These people are out to manipulate you, here, read this manipulative piece of media
maskedmelon
10-03-2016, 12:31 PM
Daywolf told me in another thread that WW3 already started ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks obama
It has, but not in the way that you or I or anyone we would ordinarily recognize. It is a fight for the survival of enlightened man. Unfortunately he is too wrapped up combatting the meaninglessness of his existence by pandering to the guilt of his own success that he is generally incapable of recognizing the assault.
Jarnauga
10-03-2016, 01:24 PM
It has, but not in the way that you or I or anyone we would ordinarily recognize. It is a fight for the survival of enlightened man. Unfortunately he is too wrapped up combatting the meaninglessness of his existence by pandering to the guilt of his own success that he is generally incapable of recognizing the assault.
That would be a war going on since millenia
Also you can be "enlightened" and not have "success"
mickmoranis
10-03-2016, 01:51 PM
It has, but not in the way that you or I or anyone we would ordinarily recognize. It is a fight for the survival of enlightened man. Unfortunately he is too wrapped up combatting the meaninglessness of his existence by pandering to the guilt of his own success that he is generally incapable of recognizing the assault.
Of course, technically world war 15 has already started because it has to do with something that has to do with earth and since we're here now its technically our fault for not drifting the planet into the sun to end it now.
Daywolf
10-03-2016, 02:44 PM
It has, but not in the way that you or I or anyone we would ordinarily recognize. It is a fight for the survival of enlightened man. Unfortunately he is too wrapped up combatting the meaninglessness of his existence by pandering to the guilt of his own success that he is generally incapable of recognizing the assault.We're talking literal here though. Literally in WW3. Just we've been so blind sided just like what happened with WW1 and WW2. Too many were desensitized by the left and their propaganda with how they say WW3 would start and be like. Like as if it were years all rolled up into a quick moment and then total destruction just for about no reason. It's gotta be like what we see on TV, right? :o
But what the war is really about is who's going to control the world, the whole system. The war won't be resolved until that is settled. And even when it is resolved, well we'll just have a WW4 which would be even more desperate.
Here is a decent vid on it, how we got here etc. https://youtu.be/hHMe0NfUXNg Doesn't cover everything of course. But he's right though, it's a hot war, it's just covert at this point with our black ops troops along with our proxy-armies. And it's not just combat armies, but cyber warfare and economic warfare and so on.
You cant argue that the democratic party isn't about to turn into the republican one, when they literally write books about how they're going to do it. Touching back on this. About to?? That's just more of the red vs blue stuff, while in reality the global elitists are in both camps, but not the totality of them. That's why you see like Bush sr. endorsing HRC, it's got nothing to do about RvB, but them vs us, unless you are fooled into being a part of them.
New book same as the old most likely, you need to go back and look at the book people like the Clinton's have praised and in part modeled their whole careers by as many have: Propaganda by Edward Bernays. It's all about how to mold and manipulate you to do their will. It's very effective, actually.
entruil
10-03-2016, 08:23 PM
https://youtu.be/hHMe0NfUXNg Doesn't cover everything of course. But he's right though, it's a hot war, it's just covert at this point with our black ops troops along with our proxy-armies. And it's not just combat armies, but cyber warfare and economic warfare and so on.
cool link.
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is this site credible?
The Bureau of Investigative Journalism (https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/)
Daywolf
10-03-2016, 11:04 PM
cool link.
Yes it is. I'm not sure who this guy is, but his youtube channel is of the same opinion as the first mask. Here is an interview with Gregg Housh, the guy that gave them their image, was a part of it from the beginning, a founder https://youtu.be/TeY6U3FTiNw He goes into their history, and what they are doing, what's going on, calls out the elitists, the globalists, the scum.
As for your link, I don't know, never seen it before and wasn't linked out of the youtube channel. Thought it was part of your sig for a moment.
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