UNICEF Seeks $ 115,000,000 To Sustain Misery

[maskedmelon]

Reports from the war torn pseudo nation of Nigeria indicate that 400,000 children suffer from acute malnutrition and 75,000 are likely to die within the next year if UNICEF's revised call for aid is not met.

To put this into perspective, for 50 cents every man, woman and child in the US can placate their conscience and sustain the is condition that we might look upon it again in a year, thankful that the misery of affluence, purposelessness, is not so awful by comparison.

Source (http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11Z23O)

[skarlorn]

I suffer from a disease of affluence and yet I don't see Nigerians sending me fresh colons from their dead children. I'm just asking for a little reciprocity.

[pathius41]

Tell you what, the next time that Nigerian prince emails me about the millions I have just sitting in a bank in Nigeria I'll let him have it to save the children.

[Angushjalmur]

The solution is simple (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al2Ro9zVfsQ)

[Daywolf]

There are other organizations doing aid relief there. Maybe if UNicef put more of the funding into actually feeding/aid rather than mass sterilizing, they could get more done.
“Mass Sterilization”: Kenyan Doctors Find Anti-fertility Agent in UN Tetanus Vaccine (http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431664)

[Jarnauga]

Reports from the war torn pseudo nation of Nigeria indicate that 400,000 children suffer from acute malnutrition and 75,000 are likely to die within the next year if UNICEF's revised call for aid is not met.

To put this into perspective, for 50 cents every man, woman and child in the US can placate their conscience and sustain the is condition that we might look upon it again in a year, thankful that the misery of affluence, purposelessness, is not so awful by comparison.

Source (http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11Z23O)

why don't all these children get a job in a foxxcon factory or somethin to get their fish amirite

There are other organizations doing aid relief there. Maybe if UNicef put more of the funding into actually feeding/aid rather than mass sterilizing, they could get more done.
“Mass Sterilization”: Kenyan Doctors Find Anti-fertility Agent in UN Tetanus Vaccine (http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431664)

nice source as usual dumbwolf

[skarlorn]

"according to lifesitenews, a Catholic publication..."

Stopped reading there. People who moan about liberal media brain washing you and then posting bologna like that and saying it's filet mignon deserve to go in the chop house.

Next.

[Ahldagor]

"according to lifesitenews, a Catholic publication..."

Stopped reading there. People who moan about liberal media brain washing you and then posting bologna like that and saying it's filet mignon deserve to go in the chop house.

Next.

We just don't understand what's going on tho'. Daywolf will save us.

[Jarnauga]

North Korea, a Land of Human Achievement, Love and Joy (http://www.globalresearch.ca/north-korea-a-land-of-human-achievement-love-and-joy/5344960)

Charlie Hebdo never happened (http://www.globalresearch.ca/paris-killings-media-lies-unanswered-questions-was-it-a-false-flag/5424029)

Can't go wrong with chemtrails (http://www.globalresearch.ca/geo-engineering-and-changing-the-world-through-stories/5445209)

America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group (http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881)

after 5 mins of random browsing.. :D

[Daywolf]

"according to lifesitenews, a Catholic publication..."

Stopped reading there. People who moan about liberal media brain washing you and then posting bologna like that and saying it's filet mignon deserve to go in the chop house.

Next.So? I'm not Catholic, but I have the good sense enough not to bow down to the almighty UN and wait for them to inform us of what they are actually doing (though they have too). That's gotta be some serious denial, you guys, or more really about you agreeing that there needs to be depopulation thinking there are too many people in the world.

This is in the open, Bill Gates who funded the UN to did it, openly talks about using vaccines to depopulate the world: https://youtu.be/6WQtRI7A064

It's not that you don't believe it, you only play yourself off as an idiot doing that, but it's that you agree with it and want the world depopulated. They fool you though, they talk about 0, you'll be dead too.

[Jarnauga]

they're coming for you, daywolf.. you know that

[entruil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe

[Daywolf]

they're coming for you, daywolf.. you know that
Who, your guillotine people trying the take the Révolution to the world and start libérateur heads from shoulders? I just squirt some ketchsup at 'em. Long live La résistance.

[maskedmelon]

My issue with the whole ting is that these people are suffering. Normal people feel bad about this, but very few have the gumption to do what is right. Donating a dollar here or 100 there won't end the suffering. Sure it will make you feel better like you are doing something 'good', but at the end of the day, the only way to put and end to it is to either adopt some of these people, caring and providing for them as you would your own children, or let them die.

Supporting global initiatives to vaccinate these people against malaria or provide them with a loaf of bread a day so that they may continue to live in a prison of squalor and misery for decades is morally repugnant.

[Jarnauga]

(..)the only way to put and end to it is to either adopt some of these people, caring and providing for them as you would your own children, or let them die.

Supporting global initiatives to vaccinate these people against malaria or provide them with a loaf of bread a day so that they may continue to live in a prison of squalor and misery for decades is morally repugnant.

if you think it's "morally repugnant" to help them get basic needs instead of dying, i don't know what to say :confused:

you think volunteering to give food to homeless people is morally wrong too ?

[Daywolf]

the only way to put and end to it is to either adopt some of these people, caring and providing for them as you would your own children, or let them die.
Nah. Teach them to fish and quit damming up the stream is my long-term solution. People are afraid that if they are allowed to better their lives, they will become consumers and destroy the planet with global warming etc. It's just a way to control them, to keep them in poverty so they have no say in what is going on in the world. If they have power, clean water, communications, some of them might realize what's really going on and try to stop it. They have enough problematic people in the world like that :D

[maskedmelon]

if you think it's "morally repugnant" to help them get basic needs instead of dying, i don't know what to say :confused:

you think volunteering to give food to homeless people is morally wrong too ?

Yes, it is self serving. It doesn't solve the problem, but eases one's conscience for "doing what they can." Different people have different thresholds, but ultimately their conscience is eased enough that they do nothing more well before the problem is corrected, sustaining the state of misery and ensuring it is still there in the future for them to repeat their meaningless contribution, feel better about their incomplete contribution and be more thankful for what they have.

Very few people are willing to pay the price of correcting the issue, whether it be material or emotional.

[AzzarTheGod]

tagged

[maskedmelon]

Nah. Teach them to fish and quit damming up the stream is my long-term solution.

This is my point Day :/ Who s going to teach them to fish? Who will teach them to craft rods and line? Who is going to teach them them to defend themselves from the hungry people who have not been taught to fish? What will they do when they've exhausted the stream? Who is going to teach them the basic life skills needed to succeed?

If it is one person we are talking about then you can take them into your home, teach them all these things and help them get set up to start their own life. Donating 25 cents a day to Food For the Poor or funding individuals to go teach men to fish in their own lands does not fix the problem. It supports it.

[Jarnauga]

http://i.imgur.com/N17s0Yv.png

[Daywolf]

This is my point Day :/ Who s going to teach them to fish? Who will teach them to craft rods and line? Who is going to teach them them to defend themselves from the hungry people who have not been taught to fish? What will they do when they've exhausted the stream? Who is going to teach them the basic life skills needed to succeed?

If it is one person we are talking about then you can take them into your home, teach them all these things and help them get set up to start their own life. Donating 25 cents a day to Food For the Poor or funding individuals to go teach men to fish in their own lands does not fix the problem. It supports it.
I'm saying, give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, but teach a man to fish and he'll have food for a life time. But, there is no possible way because involved governments are damming up the stream purposely so that they cant be free and informed.

If you ever hear some of the globalist talk, the world leaders, they really don't want them learning or being allowed to fish, not figuratively or literally. They just want depopulation. They want strife. They want control. Not my guess, just stuff like Kissinger and the others talk about, what they do. Them suffering is engineered. As bad as you may think the system is, it's a lot worse.

But yeah, giving money to a UN program, well they are part of the problem to begin with. But there are others that do relief work and such. Like there are organizations that go out there and connect people with those in need, like for helping them buy goats or what not, which is a really big deal in some nations. The UN just has a different agenda, and it really has nothing of interest for long term success, other than their own. About as bad as the Clinton Foundation ripping off Haiti.

[Jarnauga]

Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable ! see that man drowning in front of you ? don't save him ! it's gonna teach him a lesson and he'll prolly learn to swim after that experience ! see ? you're actually being GOOD here. (also you save your hard-earned-millions-of-dollar-that-you-inherited-from-daddy because you didn't have to call an ambulance)

This is how you get a presidential candidate who feels perfectly fine not paying taxes, not paying contractors, because see, it's HIS money, if other people are not smart enough to get it from me and not get a better lawyer than i, they're not the smart ones, me me me and all the others can go to hell. That african child dying of aids because his raped mom gave him the virus giving him birth (remember abortion and contraception is evil, jesus told me) could totally make it if he just would work 90 hours a week like real americans chinese do in foxxcon factories building toys for richer people's kids. You too, Dave, you work 3 part time jobs already to support your mother that has dementia and the kid you got with that girl that left you for that asshole ? well it's kinda your fault honestly. but you can be rich too, if you just work a bit more and take a 4th job. What about you Nils ? You studied for 5 years and still can't get a job ? well you didn't study the right thing then ! see you have to mold your life after the market ! the market is the only thing that matters, who cares if you wanted to study philosophy, who the fuck cares about philosophy anyway ? just go be a car salesman ffs. thank god we have freedom in this country where you can do whatever you want !

We may live on the same planet, but we're definitely not part of the same world.

[entruil]

Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable ! see that man drowning in front of you ? don't save him ! it's gonna teach him a lesson and he'll prolly learn to swim after that experience ! see ? you're actually being GOOD here. (also you save your hard-earned-millions-of-dollar-that-you-inherited-from-daddy because you didn't have to call an ambulance)

resisted posting self-rescue swimming lessons

This is how you get a presidential candidate who feels perfectly fine not paying taxes, not paying contractors, because see, it's HIS money, if other people are not smart enough to get it from me and not get a better lawyer than i, they're not the smart ones, me me me and all the others can go to hell. That african child dying of aids because his raped mom gave him the virus giving him birth (remember abortion and contraception is evil, jesus told me) could totally make it if he just would work 90 hours a week like real americans chinese do in foxxcon factories building toys for richer people's kids. You too, Dave, you work 3 part time jobs already to support your mother that has dementia and the kid you got with that girl that left you for that asshole ? well it's kinda your fault honestly. but you can be rich too, if you just work a bit more and take a 4th job. What about you Nils ? You studied for 5 years and still can't get a job ? well you didn't study the right thing then ! see you have to mold your life after the market ! the market is the only thing that matters, who cares if you wanted to study philosophy, who the fuck cares about philosophy anyway ? just go be a car salesman ffs. thank god we have freedom in this country where you can do whatever you want !

We may live on the same planet, but we're definitely not part of the same world.

this is probably my favorite post of all time... the cracks are starting to show =)


kinda like coolio after he got back from sodor...
(just a bit of fun)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff8foe5qJWs


seriously enjoyed post jarn... peace.

[Daywolf]

Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable
You don't know what I'm saying, you can't even figure out what melons is saying. All you have is the false narrative of theirs stuck in your head and everything is read and viewed through that perspective. They have enslaved your mind, jarn. You've taken the blue pill.

As for you crying about taxes, which is simply another left wing conspiracy theory, it's actually conservatives that out level liberals when it comes to giving to charity http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2014/10/17/Who-s-More-Generous-Liberals-or-Conservatives

But then why would the liberals need feel the desire to give to charity when they can just raise taxes and call that charity. Take from others and give it to charity, that's the liberal idea. Of course charity starts in their own bank accounts (or to) like the rape of Haiti by the Clinton foundation. Meanwhile they use the same tax loopholes as everyone else, and even more so, especially since they put those loop holes there.

[maskedmelon]

Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable ! see that man drowning in front of you ? don't save him ! it's gonna teach him a lesson and he'll prolly learn to swim after that experience ! see ? you're actually being GOOD here. (also you save your hard-earned-millions-of-dollar-that-you-inherited-from-daddy because you didn't have to call an ambulance)

This is how you get a presidential candidate who feels perfectly fine not paying taxes, not paying contractors, because see, it's HIS money, if other people are not smart enough to get it from me and not get a better lawyer than i, they're not the smart ones, me me me and all the others can go to hell. That african child dying of aids because his raped mom gave him the virus giving him birth (remember abortion and contraception is evil, jesus told me) could totally make it if he just would work 90 hours a week like real americans chinese do in foxxcon factories building toys for richer people's kids. You too, Dave, you work 3 part time jobs already to support your mother that has dementia and the kid you got with that girl that left you for that asshole ? well it's kinda your fault honestly. but you can be rich too, if you just work a bit more and take a 4th job. What about you Nils ? You studied for 5 years and still can't get a job ? well you didn't study the right thing then ! see you have to mold your life after the market ! the market is the only thing that matters, who cares if you wanted to study philosophy, who the fuck cares about philosophy anyway ? just go be a car salesman ffs. thank god we have freedom in this country where you can do whatever you want !

We may live on the same planet, but we're definitely not part of the same world.

lol, this entire post is just silly ^^ It has nothing to do with your world or my world or anyone else's here. No, not being charitable is not actually charitable. Generally speaking charity is a selfish ambition to placate one's own conscience without actually solving the problem. It's a way for people feel good about themselves without doing anything, similar to religion or ideology. As therapy, sure it works, but it is nasty to be perfectly honest.

Ignoring a man drowning is a terrible analogy, because that is a situation is within most people's power to correct and the man's suffering (drowning) is not catching. Ending his suffering only ends it for him. Donating to "charitable" organizations would be akin to dumping a bunch of medium sized playland balls in to the whater to give the man just enough aid to keep him from drowning until he is finally exhausted and does drown.

As for abortion, I've voiced support of it before, but do not discard the objections of those who consider it murder. It does end a life. We've discussed this before with regard to partial birth abortions. If those are acceptable, why not infanticide? Both are equally repugnant practices, but the good that may come of them by ending and preventing suffering outweigh them. I could never consent to either, but I do not delude myself into thinking either is purely virtuous or in some way not vile. But the so is birthing a child's you cannot care for.

The idea that everyone can be rich is just silly too. Just as is the idea that people somehow deserve awful outcomes because they are not as smart as you. Everyone has the opportunity to do what they will of themselves, but not necessarily the resources to effect the outcome desired. Is it their fault they were born into misery? No. Is it nice to keep them in a perpetual state of misery?

[Ahldagor]

lol, this entire post is just silly ^^ It has nothing to do with your world or my world or anyone else's here. No, not being charitable is not actually charitable. Generally speaking charity is a selfish ambition to placate one's own conscience without actually solving the problem. It's a way for people feel good about themselves without doing anything, similar to religion or ideology. As therapy, sure it works, but it is nasty to be perfectly honest.

Ignoring a man drowning is a terrible analogy, because that is a situation is within most people's power to correct and the man's suffering (drowning) is not catching. Ending his suffering only ends it for him. Donating to "charitable" organizations would be akin to dumping a bunch of medium sized playland balls in to the whater to give the man just enough aid to keep him from drowning until he is finally exhausted and does drown.

As for abortion, I've voiced support of it before, but do not discard the objections of those who consider it murder. It does end a life. We've discussed this before with regard to partial birth abortions. If those are acceptable, why not infanticide? Both are equally repugnant practices, but the good that may come of them by ending and preventing suffering outweigh them. I could never consent to either, but I do not delude myself into thinking either is purely virtuous or in some way not vile. But the so is birthing a child's you cannot care for.

The idea that everyone can be rich is just silly too. Just as is the idea that people somehow deserve awful outcomes because they are not as smart as you. Everyone has the opportunity to do what they will of themselves, but not necessarily the resources to effect the outcome desired. Is it their fault they were born into misery? No. Is it nice to keep them in a perpetual state of misery?

........this...........is...........so...........c ute

[maskedmelon]

........this...........is...........so...........c ute

flattery will get you nowhere ^.~v

[entruil]

Charity should come from the people. Not a mandatory obligation of the government. The problem is we are taxed too hard and the government is too large. Therefore, the additional funds that would be going to charities are being used for the globalist agenda.

bleeegh i agree with this^

they will never stop stealing from people who earn money and if they did global charities would be even worse, local charities and maybe some international ones could be okay but most of your donations are going to end up in the hillary rodham Tlinton(apparently) coffeurs...

if global charities are perpetuating misery... then the globalist agenda includes charity.

[Nihilist_santa]

what if the globalist agenda includes charity?

HRT = brain rot.

[entruil]

HRT = brain rot.

lol here's a ted talk, includes germans.

Tim Harford: Trial, error and the God complex (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5wCfYujRdE)

[Jarnauga]

Giving to charities is communism

Good job america ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[maskedmelon]

bleeegh i agree with this^

they will never stop stealing from people who earn money and if they did global charities would be even worse, local charities and maybe some international ones could be okay but most of your donations are going to end up in the hillary rodham Tlinton(apparently) coffeurs...

if global charities are perpetuating misery... then the globalist agenda includes charity.

My point is that charity in general perpetuates misery with its poor efficacy. It keeps people alive, allows them to make more babies who need more resources and so on without ever lifting people from the state of misery. That is simply deplorable.

And no, I don't consider it a symptom of some globalist conspiracy, it's a symptom of selfish human nature. People subsidize these conditions because it makes them feel better. They feel like they've done something important, helped someone, made a difference. When in fact all they have done is ensure the misery shall continue.

The only effective means of correcting the problem is to remove people from that environmen. That means one of two things.

1. Assume the role of provider and mentor until those people are able to function successfully in their new environment. Most people prefer to have children instead. or

2. Allow nature to take its course. Is that an awful thing to say? Yes, but in the interest of humanity it is the right thing to do. I suppose the most humane course of action would be to hasten the work of nature so the misery is as minimized, but that would run the risk of eliminating potentially valuable mutations from which the rest of mankind could benefit.

Most people are unwilling to pay the material price of 1 or the emotional price of 2 (i.e. assume a lower standard of living to care for and teach another individual that is not their own offspring, or accept the despicable nature of their own actions), so instead, they choose to sustain the misery.

Giving to charities is communism

Good job america ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is just odd and no, not what I am saying and not what Daywolf is saying either. We are saying two very different things, but neither is this ^^

[Pokesan]

literally kill the poor because i cannot understand happiness without money

[maskedmelon]

People who are happy are not miserable ^^ If you subscribe to liberalism/libertarianism, then people ought to be free to live as they choose even if that means being miserable. I see it as inhumane though, especially when the misery is at least in part a result of outside forces.

At the same time, allowing those people to proliferate is immoral because of the threat their proliferation represents to humanity both in diluting the mean and in chaos and destruction when they finally do lash out at the wretchedness of their circumstance.

[Ahldagor]

People who are happy are not miserable ^^ If you subscribe to liberalism/libertarianism, then people ought to be free to live as they choose even if that means being miserable. I see it as inhumane though, especially when the misery is at least in part a result of outside forces.

At the same time, allowing those people to proliferate is immoral because of the threat their proliferation represents to humanity both in diluting the mean and in chaos and destruction when they finally do lash out at the wretchedness of their circumstance.

Gotta love conditioned generalizations.

[maskedmelon]

I should reiterate thought that it is equally commendable to actually correct the problem, but most are unwilling to do that.

The general point is: support fixing the problem, not sustaining it.

[maskedmelon]

Gotta love conditioned generalizations.

I'm not suggesting all poor people are miserable. Pokesan took the discussion in that direction.

Tell me, Ald, are you happy when you've not eaten all day? How about for three days? A week? Not knowing when you will eat next?

Is it nice to impose this sort of condition in people who are unable to care for themselves because contributions do not always meet the demands of nature (famine, disease, etc)?


Or were you alluding to something else? Liberalism/libertarianism?

[Pokesan]

I reckon those miserable folks would be a smidge happier being alive than with your plan.

[Ahldagor]

I'm not suggesting all poor people are miserable. Pokesan took the discussion in that direction.

Tell me, Ald, are you happy when you've not eaten all day? How about for three days? A week? Not knowing when you will eat next?

Is it nice to impose this sort of condition in people who are unable to care for themselves because contributions do not always meet the demands of nature (famine, disease, etc)?


Or were you alluding to something else? Liberalism/libertarianism?

I think you don't know what you're talking about which is cute.

[maskedmelon]

I reckon those miserable folks would be a smidge happier being alive than with your plan.

Does that smidge of happiness entitle them to propagate misery? Because so long as they are reasonably healthy, they'll introduce children into the state of "a smidge happier than dead" and the number will grow.

Have to correct the problem rather than sustaining it by placating one's conscience. If you don't support active intervention (not sure I do, don't really want to think about it and don't need to because it is unlikely to ever happen), at least stop perpetuating it. If you have the means to lift one or more from that state and set them on a path to success, then by all means do it ^^

[Pokesan]

ponder resource consumption and the context of your complaint

[maskedmelon]

ponder resource consumption and the context of your complaint

That's my point the vast majority of people are unwilling to make the sacrfice necessary to effect change and instead continue to placate their conscience by sustaining the condition with meager contribution to ineffective aid programs because they are equally unwilling to accept the alternative.

If anyone actually cared, they would be bringing these people into their homes, feeding and educating them so that they can join productive society. Instead, they stuff a couple of bucks in the Salvation Army can at Christmas or slip a 20 to the guy holding a cardboard sign, or write a check to Food for the Poor, or vote for tax appropriations for foreign aid and are happy that they are doing what they can to make a difference, when in fact all they are doing is sustaining those conditions.

[Pokesan]

which aid programs are ineffective? be specific

i think you just enjoy being contrary

i think its pretty great