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maskedmelon
08-31-2016, 12:43 PM
Don't feel like writing anything but want to share this. Thought it was interesting and if successful shows a lot of promise for a few decades down the road once 3D organ printing (already a thing) is more refined. I imagine a few decades after that, we'll be able to just peel off people's faces and spray on new musculature/skin as needed. Just have to figure out how to keep the brain healthy indefinitely. Perhaps it can be replaced/updated in chunks to allow integration and data recovery?

Link:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-man-volunteers-for-first-human-head-transplant/ar-AAiey6h

Baler
08-31-2016, 01:30 PM
I don't think that the head will accept the body or visa versa. The sheer amount of trauma on the bodies systems would be beyond resolve. Not to mention side effects and complications. Removing the head and keeping it alive is possible to an extent. Doctors already transplant lots of organs but I don't think there is any chance in hell that a full head transplant is possible yet.

I think it's going to just be a surgical butchering.
http://i.imgur.com/HWwFPSS.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/DBBGUdW.gif

Chaboo_Cleric
08-31-2016, 01:45 PM
This will be good. Then we can sign warrants for our dead bodies for $$$ and give it to our families when we pass. I'm sure my body would go for a couple mil no doubt.

maskedmelon
08-31-2016, 01:47 PM
sweet lets create a demand for healthy/attractive/sexy headless bodies for a procedure that only (((super-multi-millionaires))) who view the owners of those bodies as consumable objects can afford. what could go wrong?

This was my thought, but with concurrent advances in 3D printing, I do not see body theft as likely a prospect especially with compatibility issues. I think it is much more likely that those with the financial means would be much more inclined to go with their custom 38" gams or diphallic models than steal one that would be eternally locked in mortal combat with he command center.

I do find it troubling though that this sort of thing will be available only to the very wealthy, who will be the first (and possibly only) to realize significant (perpetual?) extensions in life.

maskedmelon
08-31-2016, 02:09 PM
I think it could be done within 10 years if there was a concerted effort. They've already built bladders, heart valves, fingers, etc. The only real challenges I see are neuro-spinal, which certainly aren't small ^^

Nihilist_santa
08-31-2016, 03:09 PM
Yeah reattaching the spinal cord is the big issue. They have done a few head transplants with animals already in the 50s (X-files anyone?). The transplanted heads can be kept alive with machines but they never survive on their own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2BxGOdYm8U

Lune
08-31-2016, 03:31 PM
Head transplants that result in a full or even partial return to function are very far off, like several generations at least.

The neural wiring between the brain and the body is immensely complex. The chances of, for example, axons from the chemoreceptors that monitor blood oxygen in your carotid bifurcation being properly linked to the respiratory regulatory centers located in the brainstem are slim. Without those kinds of linkages, you can't maintain homeostasis. And there are millions of them.

entruil
08-31-2016, 03:50 PM
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Tupakk
08-31-2016, 03:50 PM
Head will have to come with the spine attached.

Baler
08-31-2016, 03:57 PM
Head will have to come with the spine attached.
Makes me think of mortal combat.
http://i.imgur.com/UUPwlT4.gif
lol wut

phacemeltar
08-31-2016, 04:04 PM
why are they attaching a brain with a neurological disease to a healthy body? why dont they try it with a healthy brain? am i the only one who sees the issues here?

Daywolf
08-31-2016, 07:57 PM
nadat ndat dat!
nadat ndat dat!
nadat ndat dat!
/fast

http://i.imgur.com/3EiiEKM.jpg

Chaboo_Cleric
08-31-2016, 08:05 PM
I see what you did there =P

AzzarTheGod
08-31-2016, 08:15 PM
Head transplants that result in a full or even partial return to function are very far off, like several generations at least.

The neural wiring between the brain and the body is immensely complex. The chances of, for example, axons from the chemoreceptors that monitor blood oxygen in your carotid bifurcation being properly linked to the respiratory regulatory centers located in the brainstem are slim. Without those kinds of linkages, you can't maintain homeostasis. And there are millions of them.

bingo. its not about the head, the head relies on the body to dictate a lot of things neither lune nor myself care to explain.

how about the liver being completely out of sync with the head for one. theres your millions. this is a trainwreck idea without further technology and understanding.

5-6 generations, at least.

they are closer to supporting a floating head. at least with an attempt at a floating head you have some things you can begin mimicking through trial and error. the liver and such. A transplant attempt in this lifetime is unethical.

This is the shittiest clickbait ive seen but hey its MSN.

AzzarTheGod
08-31-2016, 08:19 PM
lol are u fucking kidding me.

we still have no idea how SSRI's work with any proven scientific model and many neuropsychiatric medications (save for amphetamine) are not understood and only speculative.

and u think were going to transplant a human head?

good 1.

Ahldagor
08-31-2016, 08:25 PM
Mutumbo laying down reality.

entruil
08-31-2016, 08:44 PM
bingo. its not about the head, the head relies on the body to dictate a lot of things neither lune nor myself care to explain.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol

in the future this will prove to be the panacea for everything including this topic...

im wrong but i said it so this will come out in a week or so...

Patriam1066
08-31-2016, 09:02 PM
sweet lets create a demand for healthy/attractive/sexy headless bodies for a procedure that only (((super-multi-millionaires))) who view the owners of those bodies as consumable objects can afford. what could go wrong?

Hahahahaha (((super-multi-millionaires))), rofl

AzzarTheGod
08-31-2016, 09:19 PM
Hahahahaha (((super-multi-millionaires))), rofl

patriam woke

Nihilist_santa
08-31-2016, 11:03 PM
THX-1138 is the future. Every time I hear about some life extension tech or shit about space colonization I laugh at all of the morons helping make it a reality with no clue that it was never meant for the profane.

Daywolf
08-31-2016, 11:41 PM
How about half a head?

http://i.imgur.com/EceYN.jpg

Dillian
09-01-2016, 12:12 AM
all im going to say is Watch that movie called The Island.That is what will happen.

Daywolf
09-01-2016, 12:23 AM
all im going to say is Watch that movie called The Island of Doctor Moreau.That is what will happen.
ftfy

Baler
09-01-2016, 12:30 AM
Relevant music: 'Where's Your Head At'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAOyh7YmEc

:p

Sidelle
09-01-2016, 05:23 AM
Head will have to come with the spine attached.
http://i.imgur.com/03sfWdP.gif

maskedmelon
09-01-2016, 09:12 AM
http://i.imgur.com/03sfWdP.gif

Good reference. Props to Tupakk too for the thought too.


This would grossly complicate production and integration though. ^^ You'd have to start by integrating the cybernetic spine with the biological brain anyway, so why not forgo the cybernetic spine and just attach the head to a biological spine already nicely housed in a headless body? ^^