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Gnomish Elite
08-22-2016, 09:19 AM
I see this has been heavily debated and I'm trying to figure out how much race is going to actually matter for Necro. Is this only a small difference or is it so significant it really isn't worth playing anything else? I'm not big into min/maxing but I also really don't want to be extremely under powered.

I see plenty of Dark Elves, Humans, Gnomes, and Erudites roaming around so I feel like it can't be that big of a deal, but I'd really like to hear from some more experienced players on the subject.

jolanar
08-22-2016, 09:25 AM
There is no debate when it comes to Necro, Iksar is hands down the best choice when it comes to racial benefits.

Not everyone cares about min/max though and a lot of people choose races for other reasons like starting areas or looks.

isoka
08-22-2016, 09:34 AM
it is significant, but you can still be a good necro if you aren't an iksar.

The only reason I would not pick iksar as a necro would be for the look of some cool races such as gnomes or dark elves.

EQBallzz
08-22-2016, 10:59 AM
I think the real question is..why wouldn't you pick Iksar? It has a clear advantage. The only reasons I can think of would be that Iksar is hated everywhere or aesthetics. Necro is also hated most places anyway and I think a lot of Necro gear has -CHA stats so you might as well embrace the hatred and benefit from it by going Iksar. ;)

If it's just the aesthetics that you don't like and it's enough to make you not roll an Iksar then the benefits don't matter anyway so just pick which one you like the look of best.

I guess the only other reason not to pick Iksar would be the XP penalty but what is the rush in leveling? Want to be better and level a bit slower or be worse and hurry up to a largely stagnant end-game that isn't going anywhere anyway? When you get to end game a bit faster and then there is no new content ever are you going to really be glad you got there a bit faster? I doubt it.

Spyder73
08-22-2016, 11:09 AM
Iskar master race, necro master class, Iskar + Necro = Winning EQ at the most fundamental level.

You will 100% regret not going Iskar unless you are on your 5th alt and going for role play value

EQBallzz
08-22-2016, 11:11 AM
I was thinking of making another thread but maybe I'll piggy back on your thread to ask this question since it might help you as well. I just created an Iksar Necro last night and was curious what people's thoughts were on allocating points? I read the wiki advice and some other info but it didn't seem definitive to me.

The gist of what I read was that the conversion of HP from STA is not good enough to dump points primarily into STA so it's best to go 25 INT and 5 STA (or even 5 STR for carry weight) and then get +HP gear which has a larger impact than getting HP from STA. I read some people saying splitting points between STA and INT is a good option as it will help in the early levels. I sort of opted for a middle ground and put 10 in STA and 20 in INT.

jolanar
08-22-2016, 02:00 PM
Iskar master race, necro master class, Iskar + Necro = Winning EQ at the most fundamental level.

You will 100% regret not going Iskar unless you are on your 5th alt and going for role play value

Downside of going Iksar is your eyeball twitches a little bit every time someone juxtaposes the k and s.

thufir
08-22-2016, 02:06 PM
Don't ever switch if you don't roll an iksar necro. You won't notice the difference unless you have a basis for comparison, but if you do it'll be pretty obvious and it will make you sad you spent all that time with the non iksar necro.

Gnomish Elite
08-22-2016, 02:07 PM
Alright so pretty overwhelmingly Iksar. Iksar it is!

thebutthat
08-23-2016, 08:08 AM
The regen for iskar is pretty huge. I rolled Dark Elf, and see my Iksar peers casting a lot less bond of deaths. However, there isn't anything an iksar is killing that I can't. I just have a little more work to do managing HP.

Sprawlz
08-23-2016, 12:00 PM
If you're playing a necro and aren't an iksar, you're basically insane (or very courageous).

Trollhide
08-25-2016, 12:47 PM
I don't care to dig around for it, but I remember seeing a post where someone had done up the math on Iksar necro regen as it relates to lich and equated it basically to having Flowing Thought 5 at level 60.

Baler
08-25-2016, 02:38 PM
Iksar (http://wiki.project1999.com/Iksar) = Natural Health Regen.
Your character in this case necromancer (http://wiki.project1999.com/Necromancer) will die when their health hits 0.

No other race has that for necromancer. Natural Regen is awesome even on troll (http://wiki.project1999.com/Troll) who can not play necromancer.
It helps with leveling & is always active. Stacks with regen items and spells. Adds up to becoming a talk worth subject about passive healing for classes that can be iksar or troll..
I have two high 50 classes one with natural regen and the other without. It saved my life a few times in places such as Kurns tower(lvl 12-18/20) basement.

Unless you hate Iksar faction. I could see rolling otherwise for RP or faction reasons. People may still comment in game though. "Why not iksar?"
I see Iksar Necros camping felwithe guards(lvl 49+) I think. If you need plat,. it's a solid option.
(Necro pets) (http://wiki.project1999.com/Pet_Guide#Necromancer_Pets)

sacman08
08-26-2016, 09:12 AM
Iksar (http://wiki.project1999.com/Iksar) = Natural Health Regen.
Your character in this case necromancer (http://wiki.project1999.com/Necromancer) will die when their health hits 0.


This is the sole reason people think iksar are the best Necro's because their stats (85 INT) are crap for this role.
If you got with starting stats and you think you might play legimately (i.e. your not going to twink your character), by STATS the best choice is Dark Elf, seconded by Gnome.

maskedmelon
08-26-2016, 09:49 AM
Here is a good thread on the topic:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200861&highlight=Iksar+necro+regen&page=6


Also search Uteunayr's post history (he comes in on page 6 of that thread I linked). He's written several treatise on the issue of iksar necromancers. ^^

Nicoline
08-26-2016, 11:39 AM
Personally I like the DE but a lot of others like the Ikky! More work on the DE but better on the eyes :)

nectarprime
08-26-2016, 01:16 PM
This is the sole reason people think iksar are the best Necro's because their stats (85 INT) are crap for this role.
If you got with starting stats and you think you might play legimately (i.e. your not going to twink your character), by STATS the best choice is Dark Elf, seconded by Gnome.

lol

LordRayken
08-27-2016, 10:41 PM
I've always loved Erudite for Necromancers.

Videri
08-28-2016, 12:23 AM
There's a very interesting perspective about Erudite versus Iksar necrosis in this thread
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110930 and in this post www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1785412&postcount=29.

Fleetwood
08-29-2016, 03:54 PM
Had a 50 Human Necro on classic live and didn't have a problem, like others said Iksar is just min/max choice usually.

Kevris
08-29-2016, 06:54 PM
You have two choices:

Play what you think looks best
Play what is min/max best

I personally always choose the former.