Hillary = Huxley's Nightmare, Trump = Orwell's Paradise [Archive]

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 12:03 AM

you mean Bernie = Orwell's Paradise? That's democratic socialism.

"a society in which all men shall be equal...a society in which wealth, in the sense of personal possessions and luxuries, should be evenly distributed.... an earthly paradise in which men should live together in a state of brotherhood, without laws and without brute labour... where everyone worked short hours, had enough to eat, lived in a house with a bathroom and a refrigerator, and possessed a motor-car or even an airoplane..."

What's Hillary? heh maybe The Harlot that rides the beast.

Don't expect any paradise, the Don is just a normal man like the rest of us imo. The US is in a deep deep mess, and likely just a question of how much the future is going to hurt. Try managing your household like they have managed the US, eventually it all collapses. We're generations into debt.

Lune

07-29-2016, 12:03 AM

inb4 the /pol summer league rolls in on their harleys

lol

Secrets

07-29-2016, 12:14 AM

you mean Bernie = Orwell's Paradise? That's democratic socialism.

It was more of a loaded oxymoron.

I cannot vote for Bernie, Hillary, Jill, Trump, or independent. I'd vote for my cat to be president before any of the current candidates.

big_ole_jpn

07-29-2016, 12:24 AM

It was more of a loaded oxymoron.

I cannot vote for Bernie, Hillary, Jill, Trump, or independent. I'd vote for my cat to be president before any of the current candidates.

think of your vote as a car bomb and the decision becomes easy

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 12:32 AM

Is this reasonable to assume?

Only if you are brown.

http://i.imgur.com/bqKDKX3.png

For the rest of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9QMxyxXfvM

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 12:38 AM

inb4 the /pol summer league rolls in on their harleys

http://i.imgur.com/wFlmwGJ.gif
http://i.imgur.com/G8PYWWv.gif
http://i.imgur.com/6poAS3L.gif

This:

Ooh ouch. Someone got a few craft beers in them tonight and is feeling froggy.

Ahldagor

07-29-2016, 01:20 AM

My point is proven.

R Flair

07-29-2016, 05:01 AM

Don't at all think "Trump is just a normal man", but he does seem to have a handle on the things that made America different from the empires of the past and how its being taken over by people who do not share our ideals.

To those people who don't understand the constitution or want to uphold those ideals, who support breaking down those things thru integration of people and beliefs both economically and philosophically irreconcilable with our own (constitution) - well to them, Trump just looks like a racist.

fash

07-29-2016, 05:20 AM

to them, Trump just looks like a racist.

Hence, "normal man"

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 06:15 AM

My point is proven.
By "proven" you mean donuts, and by "point" you mean beer?
Don't at all think "Trump is just a normal man", but he does seem to have a handle on the things that made America different from the empires of the past and how its being taken over by people who do not share our ideals.
Well 0bama was sold as the Messiah, and Hillary is being sold as a Goddess, I'm just saying the people agreeing with Trump are the rational people ;) He's just another one of us mere mortals :D

Though 0bama wasn't the messiah they were hoping for, and Clinton is just another Hawk ready to drag us further into wars no one wants. Remember 10yrs ago, every dem was a complete war protester screaming bloody murder over the top etc, 0bama was the coming golden age of peace forever. He got in, just continued on with everything Bush was doing, opposite on about everything 0bama ran on. All their cries of bloody murder stopped.

The world has unraveled, gone completely unstable, and Clinton is out there acting like things have never been better. And now they are doing nothing but posturing for a war with Russia, which will likely include China, just as much as China and Russia announced joint exercises this week. Just as much as we were already in a proxy-war with Russia thru NATO and our "religion of peace" friends just recently. Just as much as NATO and Russia are moving military assets into position.

I'm having a hard time finding it hilarious, as some are, really. For others, I'm sure, it's about the 'ignorance is bliss' thing, I guess. People just concerned about "free" college or "free" medical insurance etc.
https://youtu.be/lb13ynu3Iac

AzzarTheGod

07-29-2016, 06:29 AM

and Hillary is being sold as a Goddess,

lol so you noticed the all-white suit and the white painted face (straight out of the Hunger Games ruling elites) for her confirmation? Goddess, more like trying to sell her as the Madonna, or First Woman. The virgin white on white with the virgin snow white skin, very powerful imagery there...

I still think she is going to be very hard to beat.

The heavy "whiteface" makeup was very obviously done up for effect by her team. She has never worn white airbrushing that unnatural...

It did not go unnoticed I see..

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 07:08 AM

It did not go unnoticed I see..
Actually I didn't watch a moment of it, just heard some sound clips, infuriatingly so :p
Oh this has been the thing for months, actually. https://youtu.be/uE6RZpgwIF4
Just like when 0bama first ran, all about the demigod image or whatever.

AzzarTheGod

07-29-2016, 07:09 AM

Actually I didn't watch a moment of it, just heard some sound clips, infuriatingly so :p
Oh this has been the thing for months, actually. https://youtu.be/uE6RZpgwIF4
Just like when 0bama first ran, all about the demigod image or whatever.

wait till you see how white they airbrushed her...

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 07:22 AM

r00t / Azzar / Daywolf,

Just curious, how much have each of you guys spent building & stocking your end of days survival shelters? Ballpark?

surron

07-29-2016, 07:33 AM

too many hillary supporters in this thread its down right disgusting

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 08:01 AM

lol this fuckin' guy

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 08:01 AM

Well I am fully stocked on weapons Killery will take from her slaves. Whats great about background checks is after 3 days the gun store sells to me (ATF/FBI never gives a pass/fail, which means sell). I like that they play this game even though I have a conceal carry which required an actual background check. I want more antique shit for my collection but right now is horde "assault weapon" mode before ban 2.0

you asked a dollar amount. An 80% lower is $50 max. Lets say I have over 20 grand in them. ammunition not so much. I have lots of long range rounds none of my uppers can handle. But soon I will get loads of mid range hollow point ammo (shit so good soldiers cant even use under the geneva convention).

I feel a distinct lack of adequate water and food as well. If you think rapid SHIT HITS THE FAN cant happen in America, you are an idiot. Get prepared, its always the "civilized" countries that collapse the hardest through history. And every fiat currency has destroyed itself; USD inflation is way worse than they let on after quantitative easing, a hyperinflationary holocaust is imminent

I am curious to if anyone has stocked up on insulin, I have two type I.5 friends (rare) I'd like to hold onto

Sorry but Diabetics will be fucked.

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 08:18 AM

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 08:26 AM

Ummm... you mean like a taxpayer funded jet on the 24/7 stand-by to fly me out of the nuke bombarded country and to a 5-star hotel, like the Clintons have?
It'll be champagne wishes and caviar dreams an hour later for them :/
itt: we are shocked and indignant that the most famous (and arguably most powerful) woman in the world lives a lifestyle more luxurious than our own

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 08:31 AM

Mad Max Fury Road wasn't just a turd of a sci-fi movie guys it's a peek into the imminent future of Shillary Killton's Amerika

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 08:35 AM

^ this is literally what you rednecks believe

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 08:37 AM

itt: we are shocked and indignant that the most famous (and arguably most powerful) woman in the world lives a lifestyle more luxurious than our own
If that's all you see of it, it flew way over your head.

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 08:41 AM

^ this is literally what you rednecks believe

Welcome to stage 2 friend. Shhh its going to be OK. We are going to make America great again. Now go hug your wife's son til this is all over.

http://i.imgur.com/paXaBsY.jpg

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 08:45 AM

Need to get Swish in here. Im curious to see if all of the "remainers" sounded like Trollhide right up until they woke up and found out they lost.

maskedmelon

07-29-2016, 08:47 AM

Welcome to stage 2 friend. Shhh its going to be OK. We are going to make America great again. Now go hug your wife's son til this is all over.

http://i.imgur.com/paXaBsY.jpg

^ lol

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 08:48 AM

I misspoke, you all loved Mad Max didn't you?

http://i.imgur.com/uwAnvvc.gif

http://i.imgur.com/K63XPwq.jpg

maskedmelon

07-29-2016, 08:51 AM

I don't have any guns or prep for anything and have not seen Mad Max and am voting for Trump : P

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 09:07 AM

I don't have any guns or prep for anything and have not seen Mad Max and am voting for Trump : P

Dont worry you can do like the Russian army in ww2 and pick up a gun from the dead man next to you. The dead man will be clutching either an empty insulin vial or his wife's son.

I did find this infographic interesting if true. Should be plenty of guns to go around.

http://i.imgur.com/ltFzICc.jpg

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 09:11 AM

Remember when Obummer was gonna take r gunz? He better get on it, he's running out of time.

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 09:14 AM

I misspoke, you all loved Mad Max didn't you?

http://i.imgur.com/uwAnvvc.gif

http://i.imgur.com/K63XPwq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/scD88Wz.jpg

Domo

07-29-2016, 09:48 AM

Hillary = predictable boring random politican
Trump = ratcatcher

Saludeen

07-29-2016, 10:53 AM

It was more of a loaded oxymoron.

I cannot vote for Bernie, Hillary, Jill, Trump, or independent. I'd vote for my cat to be president before any of the current candidates.

Same, but why not the weed guy?

CmCKiller

07-29-2016, 11:01 AM

If you want Change. Vote Donald Trump
If you want the same shiit Vote Hillary Clinton

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 11:11 AM

Same, but why not the weed guy?

*cringe* Gary Johnson is pro TPP and amnesty. Let that sink in libertarians. Never understood the open borders libertarians.

AzzarTheGod

07-29-2016, 03:10 PM

But for real-- build the fucking wall already, especially since we have this fake war on error where I get raped by TSA high school dropouts. Also without so many illegals we could have a better path to citizenship, I know a lot of foreigners who went through years and years of hell it shouldn't be easy but if you can say the pledge and the bill of rights and not want to abolish the 2nd one like a Frenchy fuck then I'm cool with you

pro TPP there is just no excuse for that's unelected globalist-authored tyranny

This X 100. Build it or slash the TSA budget in half for starters.

Nibblewitz

07-29-2016, 03:53 PM

Change.

LOL.

Their financial backers say that they are the same.

Their infantile behaviors say that they are the same.

R Flair

07-29-2016, 04:15 PM

LOL.

Their financial backers say that they are the same.

Their infantile behaviors say that they are the same.

You are obviously informed. Tell us about the backers that Donald and Hillary have in common.

snergle

07-29-2016, 04:22 PM

You are obviously informed. Tell us about the backers that Donald and Hillary have in common.

donald trump. check mate athiests

Nibblewitz

07-29-2016, 04:25 PM

You are obviously informed. Tell us about the backers that Donald and Hillary have in common.

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 06:01 PM

donald trump. check mate athiests
That's disinformation. I dug up the official record and posted it months back here in the Cruz vs. Trump debates with Blitzers. There were two donations to Hillary, the first like in the $1k range, then another that was a little more but returned. Likely reason, her campaign hit him up for a donation, thinking big bucks from a billionaire. lol a shame check the first one. Tried again, asking for a bigger donation, but got nothing like they wanted so they refunded.

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 06:24 PM

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.
That's nuts. Those were business loans, and all paid back, a very expected practice in real estate. They get loans based on having the money already, or on existing collateral, it builds business confidence, credit rating, just like how you would do if (well in the old days) when trying to build a good credit line for getting a good house mortgage. You keep all your money in your sock, do ya? Live in a cardboard box?

R Flair

07-29-2016, 07:12 PM

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.

Surely as well informed as you are, you can provide the names of said banks and the amounts they provided him with.

Nibblewitz

07-29-2016, 07:19 PM

They get loans based on having the money already

Incorrect. Money is created by the loan, not the other way around. Now take interest into account, and bam! there's always more debt (loans and their interest) than money.

And money is the limiting factor to change; money places a premium on what can and cannot be done.

If we want things to change, we may as well scrutinize the way money and debt enters the economy. OR, we can speculate who gets voted off the island on the next episode of Survivor: Washington, D.C.

Nibblewitz

07-29-2016, 07:28 PM

Surely as well informed as you are, you can provide the names of said banks and the amounts they provided him with.

The truth is I don't know what they want to call themselves or how much money they've thrown at the candidates, but I'm sure the multi-billion dollar news industry will keep us little folks on the up-and-up.

R Flair

07-29-2016, 07:30 PM

The truth is I don't know what they want to call themselves or how much money they've thrown at the candidates, but I'm sure the multi-billion dollar news industry will keep us little folks on the up-and-up.

So you don't really know anything, you're just pretending you do to spread misinformation.

Got it.

Nibblewitz

07-29-2016, 07:36 PM

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 07:46 PM

No, I urge everyone to keep an open mind. In my opinion, the situation becomes very clear when you "follow the money."

Looking at the few responses I have received from my comments, I will bow out of this discourse.

Y'all have a nice day. :)

I get what you are saying but straight up abolishing the fed is over the heads of most people. The exciting thing about Trump is that nationalism is cool again. This will shift the Overton window.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

This then opens up the public to being more receptive to nationalist ideas as opposed to the socialist views and policies we have been dealing with. Central banking is key to socialism so you will meet with a lot of resistance until a changing of the guard.

When just straight up "following the money" the Don was relatively "self funded" until he became the nom . Having raise only something like 59 million. Hillary had raised something like 300 million mostly corporate money compared to Bernie's 290 million which was mostly grass roots. It is not uncommon for big industry to donate to both parties hedging their bets trying to earn favor. Even now you can see the media establishment has completely turned on Donald especially with Roger Ailes out. All of this should tell you something.

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 07:48 PM

So you don't really know anything, you're just pretending you do to spread misinformation.

Got it.
Obviously he doesn't. Not even aware how business works and the dealings with banks. What he's actually throwing out here is the old dead horse the Cruz camp tried to use to deflect Cruzer's political loans by his wife's banker friends. Is the Clinton camp even using this failed tactic? That'd be a lol.

Daywolf

07-29-2016, 08:18 PM

No, I urge everyone to keep an open mind. In my opinion, the situation becomes very clear when you "follow the money."

Looking at the few responses I have received from my comments, I will bow out of this discourse.

Y'all have a nice day. :)
Or rather than allowing for an empty... er I mean an open mind, all these financial disclosures are public. I know, I've searched through Donald's financial releases, including from FEC publications especially. They have found nothing on him, nothing at all. The only thing they have right now, which is ALL they have - is Clinton's and their media lapdogs, that he's being audited by the IRS right now and doesn't want to release the disclosure until they are finished.

They put him in a position where if he doesn't disclose it right now, they demonize him and make up all kinds of whack shit like paid off by the Russians etc etc. But if he does disclose now, and the IRS makes corrections later, he's called out as cheat or whatever they can pull out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess, that if the IRS finds no errors, they are going to take their sweet time to conclude this audit. Try searching back for all the news reports on the IRS being used against the opposition to the democrats. All the conservative and religious organizations targeted, harassed, even personal finances targeted, to the point of making such groups unable to operate.

Nihilist_santa

07-29-2016, 10:18 PM

Or rather than allowing for an empty... er I mean an open mind, all these financial disclosures are public. I know, I've searched through Donald's financial releases, including from FEC publications especially. They have found nothing on him, nothing at all. The only thing they have right now, which is ALL they have - is Clinton's and their media lapdogs, that he's being audited by the IRS right now and doesn't want to release the disclosure until they are finished.

They put him in a position where if he doesn't disclose it right now, they demonize him and make up all kinds of whack shit like paid off by the Russians etc etc. But if he does disclose now, and the IRS makes corrections later, he's called out as cheat or whatever they can pull out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess, that if the IRS finds no errors, they are going to take their sweet time to conclude this audit. Try searching back for all the news reports on the IRS being used against the opposition to the democrats. All the conservative and religious organizations targeted, harassed, even personal finances targeted, to the point of making such groups unable to operate.

The Emperor of Humanity operates on a different level than us mortals. I think he is letting the Dem imagination go wild and will hold out on releasing til the last minute. This way they look like morons with a bunch of baseless accusations.

Latest electoral map from most recent polling included below

http://i.imgur.com/Phj6F35.jpg.

Trollhide

07-29-2016, 11:44 PM

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.
Ah these must be the same corporate banks that have blacklisted Trump from borrowing any money

for being too good of a businessman

BardPop

07-30-2016, 02:08 AM

Hilary is crooked and corrupt, trump is ambiguous and hasn't really laid down his plans yet. Even though I was kid when Bill served his terms, I still remember people saying that the Clinton were both huge liars and the way it's panned out Hilary seems to fit the mold. I'm not really enthusiastic about either of them, but what I am enthusiastic about is the power of the people to hold whoever gets elected president accountable for each and every single thing they do. America is almost 400 million strong against a very small number of Clinton or Trump people, the people CAN and SHOULD hold whoever is sworn into office accountable for their choices and not let them run this country into the ground, so even if I don't have much faith in either Clinton or Trump hopefully America will progress regardless of whoever wins-If Clinton wins I hope she's not a complete nut, and if Trump wins I hope he tries to do something to fix all the problems related to debt and war this country has accumulated.

Fun fact, we haven't been debt free since the 19th century, this country has massive problems with not paying back our creditors whether it's ourselves or foreign nations, we need to just pay the over $1 trillion debt we currently owe and be done with it. God knows we spend enough on the military to have that kind of money laying around. We currently spend over 600 billion on the military each year, we could probably cut that down a little bit so we can pay off our debt. Over a trillion dollars debt is generally bad.

Nibblewitz

07-30-2016, 03:56 AM

Fun fact, we haven't been debt free since the 19th century, this country has massive problems with not paying back our creditors whether it's ourselves or foreign nations, we need to just pay the over $1 trillion debt we currently owe and be done with it. God knows we spend enough on the military to have that kind of money laying around. We currently spend over 600 billion on the military each year, we could probably cut that down a little bit so we can pay off our debt. Over a trillion dollars debt is generally bad.

You can't be debt free in a debt-based economy. All the money in supply was created out of loans (debt); loans that accumulate interest which has to be paid.

money supply = total loans

money supply < total loans and their interest

Someone will have to default on their loans by design.

AzzarTheGod

07-30-2016, 04:11 AM

Trollhide

07-30-2016, 04:16 AM

or we could always revise our draconian drug policy and corresponding privatized for-profit prison system that enabled the cartels to thrive and turned Mexico into the third-world shithole it is

thingsthatwillneverhappen.txt

Jarnauga

07-30-2016, 07:19 AM

http://i.imgur.com/G9l6vks.gif

Daywolf

07-30-2016, 09:33 AM

we don't have a wall against Canada because its a successful 1st world nation-state.

you don't have Africa-grade governments (3rd world shit-tier neighbors) and not build a fucking wall. It just doesn't make any sense you morons.

Americans deserve better than to be at the mercy of the Mexican justice system and Mexican policing system. Period.

Western Europe doesn't need any wall because they don't have this problem. Its all 1st world neighbors with 1st world nation-states in the EU.

You sure about that? I'll tell ya, if I were king of Canada, and Hillary won the US election, I'd build a wall! And I'd hire Trump to build it just after I lowered taxes to pay for it. Ain't no zombies gettin' over that wall!

Jarnauga

07-30-2016, 10:30 AM

.

Fun fact: central banks like this are one of Marx's 10 planks of communism, another being the income tax. Making America a somewhat communist country.

pretty much all countries have a central bank like the us one, i guess we're all communist then

I actually looked for it in the communist manifesto because it didn't make any sense:

Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank
with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

if you think that's the situation in the us, you're seriously dellusional

EDIT:
There's also this:
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

I knew Trump was a communist :D

Raev

07-30-2016, 11:22 AM

http://i.imgur.com/G9l6vks.gif

It's easy to read these quotes and conclude that Trump is an amateur with a 4th grade intellect and Obama is some sort of intelligent technocrat. But in reality, Trump's plan of removing one of the most crooked politicians since LBJ, while certainly not a cureall, is at least a positive step forward. Obama, meanwhile, is part of the establishment. I can guarantee that absolutely nothing he proposes will actually threaten his contribution gravy train.

R Flair

07-30-2016, 12:19 PM

There is actually nothing better that Trump could have said than that. Its masterful politically and shows an understanding of people in the 21st century. This isn't the age of the long-winded doctoral thesis, its a time of shorthand truth.

Also, just beating someone that is probably the most globalist establishment candidate in history will inherently open things up again.

Nihilist_santa

07-30-2016, 01:17 PM

http://i.imgur.com/G9l6vks.gif

Umm did you notice that although Obama gave a long thoughtful response HE DID NONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID in the response? Funny that just in 2012 when those comments are made the candidates and pacs spent a combined 7 BILLION dollars campaigning.

Jarnauga

07-30-2016, 02:41 PM

Umm did you notice that although Obama gave a long thoughtful response HE DID NONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID in the response? Funny that just in 2012 when those comments are made the candidates and pacs spent a combined 7 BILLION dollars campaigning.

That Disclose Act he's talking about failed because republicans blocked it from what i read, it's not like POTUS has all the powers like trump seem to think..

Whatever, my point was that trump is a moron that just say anything but what he's asked about (cf the super-sayan cringe-worthy nuclear triad answer), while everyone claps and chant "USA, USA" like mindless drones

big_ole_jpn

07-30-2016, 03:21 PM

if u guys loved freedom u would have voted for the guy whose kid is named after ayn rand in 2008

Lune

07-30-2016, 03:34 PM

ayn rand

http://i.imgur.com/KCinjFL.jpg

barrettdc1

07-30-2016, 04:53 PM

if u guys loved freedom u would have voted for the guy whose kid is named after ayn rand in 2008

http://i.imgur.com/GKfPUSo.jpg

Daywolf

07-31-2016, 03:01 AM

http://i.imgur.com/GKfPUSo.jpg
...which is funny because the RNC changed the rules (legally) so that next time they avoid a close call like what happened with Ron. Yeah, Romney and Ryan face palmed when it came back to bite them it the butt when their guy Cruz was unable to take advantage of the pre-rule change so he could have called for a contested convention against the Don. And as we know, Cruz wanted to change that rule back DURING the convention, which was really an inconsistent no-no. They call it the "Ron Paul Rule" hehehe. So, all hail Trump! :D
At least they didn't outright cheat like...

Millburn

07-31-2016, 08:22 PM

Best case scenario is Trump wins presidency and congress flips to Dem majority. We're not even saved if Hilldawg wins and has another stroke. That VP pick of hers is just as bad as the abomination she is. Trump is a steaming pile of shit but I can stomach him at the helm if we can get a Dem majority in congress to keep him from putting Judge Judy on the supreme court.

AzzarTheGod

07-31-2016, 08:45 PM

yeah

yawn

Daywolf

07-31-2016, 08:48 PM

if we can get a Dem majority in congress
Before this election cycle, I was hearing projections of that not happening for a decade, maybe two. Really there are only three choices, 1. buy a plane ticket to Europe, 2. rig the general election much like Hillary just did with her party nomination, or 3. start/false-flag a civil war and hope to win under a martial-law/police state with dictator 0bama 4ever. They have that set up and ready to go already, would just take a phone call.