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Kendir
07-27-2016, 03:16 PM
Hey guys just thought I would share some tips on low level shadowknights that work for me. I'm going to break them up by broad topics so here goes.

SOCIAL:
1. Group up early and often it is much faster, safer, and and you can make friends this way.
2. When you go the EC to peddle your wares dont just pay attention to the people buying what you're selling or selling what you're buying. Watch for the alchemists, jewelcrafters, and tailors who are advertising. Add them to your friends list so you can hit them up when your ready to buy 10 dose sow, or 5ac/55hp rings, or weight reduction bags. Or if you come across some loot you know they need as a mat so you can make some money (HQ bear skins come to mind here).
3. If you happen to be in a group with another sk inspect him and watch how he plays so you can ask for advice or offer your own tips.
4. Befriend your healers. Self explanatory.

HOTKEYS
1. Make them!
2. At the very least make these ones, /assist, /g Incoming giant rat!, /shout Train to zoneline from (insert current camp here), /pet backoff and /pet attack together on one. and quick item change buttons, for example i have a runed bone fork normally in my range slot but sometimes i wanna pop off a few arrows, so i have a key with my range slot and one with the inventory slot that contains my bow so i can switch them out without ever opening my inventory.

COMBAT
1. You wont always be the main tank, deal with it.
2. Your pet will piss off the enchanter sometimes. (thats where that pet hotkey comes into effect)
3. Dont spam taunt. It's tempting i know but if you do you will run into the situation where you need it to be ready and its still on cooldown.
4. Dont underestimate disease cloud, I know this has been said before but this you aggro generator.
5. Use siphon strength, it is a buff for you and a debuff for the mob! You will hit a bit harder and it will hit a bit softer.
6. Dont forget to cast vampiric embrace, its free health for you and damage to your target.
7. If you are pulling put you pet on guard at the spot youre pulling too and try to not get hit by the mob on the way back your pet is going to go sacrifice himself in your name.
8. Let the other melees take a few hits sometimes, you are the healers focus if you can end a fight at 50% when you soak up all the damage you might be able to end it above 65% if you let the warrior and ranger take a few, so what if they drop to 80% before you peel, the healer will be able to save some mana because they wont have to heal you for as much. The others will be ok so long as you do your job.
9. Sit down! If you arent pulling, sit down an gain some health and mana between pulls, if you are standing the whole time you are slowing down the experience for youre whole group because the healer will have to med longer due to you needing more heals.
10. Postion your mobs so that everyone else sees its back. Not only will this allow them to hit harder but it will put you between the rest of the group and any occasional wanderers.

GENERAL
1. When you leave town make sure you have food/drink and bandages.
2. Buy weight reduction bags especially if you arent an ogre or troll.
3. Buy a couple invis potions while youre in town too because there isnt always a caster around to do it for you.
4. Dont neglect any of your weapon skills (even archery), try to keep them all maxed.
5. When you're just passing through zones switch to a one hander and shield to give you the extra ac just in case you aggro that shadowed man on your way to mistmoore.

Thats all I have for now maybe I'll update this or make another one day, but if you guys have anything else to help out new shadowknights add them. Hope I helped someone.

Trungep99
07-27-2016, 08:06 PM
I think this would be a good post in the new to server section of the forums. Sounds like you are doing well!

phacemeltar
07-27-2016, 08:14 PM
/doability forage
/autoinv


also:

taunt mechanics dont work like that

Trungep99
07-28-2016, 06:25 PM
/doability forage
/autoinv


also:

taunt mechanics dont work like that

Taunt is not supposed to be spammed, so he is correct.

Kendir
07-28-2016, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, I will probably add more when I hit 40 or 45 because im sure i will learn some more by then.

skottomania
07-28-2016, 11:38 PM
I have a DE SK also that I've avoided playing because I can never seem to find a group. I'm only level 11 right now, trying to find groups in Ro and Oasis for either dervs or crocs or whatever basically. A few questions though:

People above are talking about Taunt and how the mechanics work, etc. How is it supposed to be used optimally? I've just hit it as soon as I can because I thought it was like Hide (either it works or it doesn't), is that incorrect?

How do you make hotkeys to switch weapons? For instance, I want to switch from my sword and shield to my big ol' two-handed axe? How do I do that without opening my inventory screen, clicking through bags, unequipping both sword and shield, then finally dragging my axe to my Primary slot? I just want to press a button or two and be holding an axe instead of a sword, especially in combat.

If anybody wants to group up, please please get in touch with me. I'd love to play my SK more, but I don't want to do it solo. Don't be shy!

Toon's name is Ryskim.

Danth
07-29-2016, 01:38 AM
Taunt, if successful, moves you to the top of the hate list. If you're already at the top of the hate list, it does nothing. Therefore you shouldn't spam the ability when you already have aggro unless you're attempting to get skill-ups.

Danth

phacemeltar
07-29-2016, 02:26 AM
Taunt, if successful, moves you to the top of the hate list. If you're already at the top of the hate list, it does nothing. Therefore you shouldn't spam the ability when you already have aggro unless you're attempting to get skill-ups.

Danth
i could be mistaken, but i believe taunt has diminishing returns per mob.. meaning that if you use it enough times on one npc, it will become less successful. ive been told its limited to 2 successful taunts, but i would double check that

also, be sure to coordinate with your groups crowdcontroller.. as your DoTs will break their mez/stuns (disease cloud has a crazy long duration).. and most of the cc spells also carry a small chance for a mem-blur, which will wipe the aggro table from the mob.. meaning that when your DoT ticks, the blurred mob will go straight for the nearest (sitting) player

ALWAYS TAUNT BEFORE BREAKING MEZ

Jaleth
07-29-2016, 10:37 AM
2. and quick item change buttons, for example i have a runed bone fork normally in my range slot but sometimes i wanna pop off a few arrows, so i have a key with my range slot and one with the inventory slot that contains my bow so i can switch them out without ever opening my inventory.

This is what I need to do. I have a shrunken goblin skull earring and jboots I would love to switch out with a push of a button, someone explain to this dumb ass veteran of EQ how this is done or perhaps point me to a site that explains it. I do macros for spells, but not sure on hotkey or inventory macros.

Thanks!

JackFlash
07-29-2016, 11:13 AM
Just hold down the left mouse button on the slot you want to make a hotkey of and put them on a hotbar next to each other.

Jaleth
07-29-2016, 07:16 PM
Just hold down the left mouse button on the slot you want to make a hotkey of and put them on a hotbar next to each other.

Lol sorry I should've had my coffee this morning before I read that thread and posted. Yeah I do this atm as well, I just read the post wrong. I took it as meaning at the time that a hotkey was created to click and the macro within that hotkey would swap out the item from the inventory slot and use it; then click it again to swap the item back. Like it would read something like this:
/move inventory slot 3 bag slot 2 to the equipment slot 8
/use equipment slot 8


Something like this. Haha sorry

Kendir
07-29-2016, 10:13 PM
ALWAYS TAUNT BEFORE BREAKING MEZ
Really? Ive always just used disease cloud to piss the mob off and break mez at the same time. Is taunting prior to doing that the better option?

RDawg816
07-30-2016, 12:26 AM
Really? Ive always just used disease cloud to piss the mob off and break mez at the same time. Is taunting prior to doing that the better option?
That depends on a lot of variables. Usually that will work just fine. Sometimes it won't. Once you hit 39 and get shadow vortex, use that instead. Another thing you can do is use your pbaoe strength spell to build aggro while you're tanking other mobs.

Trungep99
07-31-2016, 11:30 PM
Really? Ive always just used disease cloud to piss the mob off and break mez at the same time. Is taunting prior to doing that the better option?

I suggest taunting twice before breaking mez, some chanters build a lot of agro and disease cloud won't always top what the chanter did to piss it off

Trollhide
08-01-2016, 01:17 AM
I suggest taunting twice before breaking mez, some chanters build a lot of agro and disease cloud won't always top what the chanter did to piss it off
All this does is give you a higher chance of at least 1 successful taunt. If your first one is successful, you get the same agro whether you taunt once or ten times before breaking mez.

maskedmelon
08-04-2016, 03:42 PM
Just drop a shadow vortex or two on it while fighting another mob. When you finish with that mob run and feel free to immediately break Mrs by bashing the vortexed mob in the face ^^ Or break with DC if you fat and don't like the rush of combat ^^

thufir
08-05-2016, 08:05 PM
Really? Ive always just used disease cloud to piss the mob off and break mez at the same time. Is taunting prior to doing that the better option?

taunt will place you 1 unit of aggro above the highest person on the aggro list.
disease cloud gives a set amount of (pretty large) aggro.

so yeah, it's better to taunt first. if you use disease cloud first and the enchanter has a good head of aggro from multiple mezzes and/or a slow, it might go straight for him anyway. not that taunt is particularly reliable, but you may as well use it.

shadow vortex and shroud of pain (and related spells) are very good aggro generators and don't damage the mob, so if you throw them onto mezzed mobs it also reduces the chances they'll head straight for the enchanter after mez is broken.

demokatt
08-06-2016, 11:53 AM
I also started a de sk even tough I have an ogre sk alrrady. I was wondering has anyone parsed to see the difference on Having 200 str and 255 str? As I understand this moves the avarege damage close to the max but hos much does it matter?

Another thing annoyed me playing ogre is that in 3d person view my ass is so big that wherever I click I taget myself instead of the mob I wanna attack. Any advice from ogre players?

Nitsude
08-15-2016, 03:32 PM
Target nearest NPC hotkey for ogres.

phacemeltar
08-15-2016, 05:32 PM
i think theres a command you can enter that will disable targeting yourself? or maybe thats on live...

Archer71
09-19-2016, 07:43 PM
Try to hide with your DE SK when FD and your enemys will forget you faster i think. Worked in SolA very good today. DE caster is very nice if you hide while medding in areas where wandering low level Mobs are a pain in the ass always attacking you...I play 4 Darkelves the same time (Ench, SK, Mage and cleric and the are realy good ! Made 40 lvls one day ! (4x10) Started last week with them and now they are all 40 and yesterday i just quested with low xp.

Archer71
09-21-2016, 04:35 AM
Ehh ok i realizued now what Project 1999 is have read now the rules of the server here and what i wrote above was on Fiona vie server, but i try to log in here cause i dont like the comercial servers and ill do it with a single charakter. ;-)