Does Nobody Check the IP Exemptions Anymore?

[Riptardomintor]

I know the Devs don't get paid, so please don't misunderstand; I am not complaining by any means what-so-ever. I really appreciate all that they do, considering they don't have to run the game at all. It makes me really happy to see the population of dedicated and nostalgic players just like me.

Anyway, I requested an IP Exemption a while back because my father is on vacation from work and I'm home from college, so I figured it was a good time for us to play together. However, the window of opportunity is quickly fading. I'm not making this thread to ask for an Exemption. I know that's to be done in the IP Exemption thread as a sub-thread. I just want to know if the Devs still check or if I should hold out hope that we'll get to play with each other before he goes back to work and I go back to school (when we won't have time anymore).

Thank you sincerely,

Riptar

[JackFlash]

Done in batches, don't bump your petition. Welcome.

[Thulack]

They just did a bunch like last week. Guide posted in another bitching thread. Have you checked your petition to see if they posted anything asking for more info? Have you check to see if you have the exemption already?

[Riptardomintor]

I have checked, and they have not. At least, not yet. But, regardless, I just wanted to know how the system worked. I wasn't bumping, at least, not intentionally. Thank you for giving me a concise answer.

[Spyder73]

If you bump your thread it goes to the bottom of the pile - so intentional or not - it sounds like you may be your own worst enemy in this matter

[zacknado]

good to know, I made this mistake I think. Hopefully they are forgiving, not touching my request anymore. I didnt know any better.

[emj503]

Is quite ridiculous stunting server growth...

[nectarprime]

20 days since I've requested mine.

[Loke]

Is quite ridiculous stunting server growth...

You said this in the post you also made complaining about exemptions, which highlights your misunderstanding of the server staff. Nilbog has said before that he doesn't reaply care of anyone plays on this server, he does this as a hobby. While I'm sure no one wants a dead server, p99 isn't some company that is making money off each new player who joins - in fact, more players probably just drives up cost in the long run.

P99 has seen fairly steady growth since it was created, and I can assure you anyone complaining to an unpaid staff about not processing their request in 2-3 days is not the type of growth we want anyway. Settle down, enjoy eq, and your shit will get fixed when the server staff has time.

[trite]

I know the Devs don't get paid, so please don't misunderstand; I am not complaining by any means what-so-ever. I really appreciate all that they do, considering they don't have to run the game at all. It makes me really happy to see the population of dedicated and nostalgic players just like me.

Anyway, I requested an IP Exemption a while back because my father is on vacation from work and I'm home from college, so I figured it was a good time for us to play together. However, the window of opportunity is quickly fading. I'm not making this thread to ask for an Exemption. I know that's to be done in the IP Exemption thread as a sub-thread. I just want to know if the Devs still check or if I should hold out hope that we'll get to play with each other before he goes back to work and I go back to school (when we won't have time anymore).

Thank you sincerely,

Riptar


Dev's don't check anything, they rely on a volunteer who goes by the name of Sirken to handle stuff like this....they need to recruit new volunteers from the community in my opinion...he may have the best intentions but his interest in policing us seems to have waned...it's understandable we're all up to no good and it's a thankless task heh

[AbstractVision]

There are other options just don't abuse them. In the rare occurrences I have friends over and we want to play P99 together we just use a phones wifi for the second connection. The data usage isn't much.

[Riptardomintor]

There are other options just don't abuse them. In the rare occurrences I have friends over and we want to play P99 together we just use a phones wifi for the second connection. The data usage isn't much.

Thank you for the option. I never thought of it. I appreciate the reply :)

[zacknado]

Turns out Sprint wants a monthly fee for having hot spot capabilities. What a crock. Back to waiting lol. Good suggestion though

[AbstractVision]

Instead of using the phone or carriers built in hotpost check out apps like PDANet which let you tether your connection. One way to get around those pesky hotspot limits and such.

[Jimjam]

One reason the brakes may have been put on your IP exemption application is you may have not included the full details.

When posting for this, please include

the account names of every person that will be playing from the same IP,

the identities (real first names)

the relations to those players,


make sure that at least one character has been created under each account.


Please verify the spelling of each account you specify.


This format works best: Real first name - Relationship - Account Name

[Komayto]

I have just a few extra questions about this process for anyone with experience to answer.

How exactly would one know if they were granted an exemption? Is the requester notified in any overt way? Or do you just try and see if you can log in? I've been afraid to try just thinking I'm not yet authorized and might unintentionally raise a red flag/false positive for the staff.

Followed the prescribed format to a "T" and it's been over a month. Not that I'm complaining, I'm a patient person and have other stuff to do/games to play; but I fear my family member is starting to lose interest in duo'ing.

[Jimjam]

Your petition will likely be moved to resolved and you'll have a reply notifying you of the granted exemption.

[casovar]

I've been waiting over a month as well so my kids and I can all play together. Since my initial post I ran out of slots on my account so I had to create another. I added that to my existing petition to make sure it gets an exemption as well. Now I am wondering if it is at the bottom of the list again.

If that's the case they should state that in the FAQ. I'm not trying to bump the request, I just wanted them to have all the information so they would all be done at one time.

The kids are driving me crazy asking when it will be done and even I am starting to feel a bit frustrated. Nothing to do but just wait I guess...

[Baler]

They set the date back by the number of posts these threads get.
Doh sorry guys :(

[Thulack]

Turns out Sprint wants a monthly fee for having hot spot capabilities. What a crock. Back to waiting lol. Good suggestion though

download PDA net and hook it right to your PC

[runauch]

How can you tell if you have the exemption? I posted June 16th and have not bumped the thread, and it has the required info in it. But there is no reply in it, and it hasn't been moved to the resolved queue. If there was a batch done recently is it possible mine got done but not replied to?

[Thulack]

How can you tell if you have the exemption? I posted June 16th and have not bumped the thread, and it has the required info in it. But there is no reply in it, and it hasn't been moved to the resolved queue. If there was a batch done recently is it possible mine got done but not replied to?

try and log on to both accounts like you would if it was exempt. If it works then it went through. If 2nd account cant log in then it didnt go through yet.

[zacknado]

Im scared to post anything about IP Exemptions...I think they are watching me...:eek:

[runauch]

I'll try that, thanks.

[runauch]

It's not working. :(

[nurrburt]

How long does it normally take between batches? We've been waiting for over a month now.

[casovar]

Three years ago I got a response the next day for my oldest son. It has been over two months of waiting to get one for my middle son and a second account for me. If they are that short handed I would be happy to volunteer to do exemptions. Makes me wonder if they are far more complicated to do and that's why they get put off so long though.

[Thulack]

Three years ago I got a response the next day for my oldest son. It has been over two months of waiting to get one for my middle son and a second account for me. If they are that short handed I would be happy to volunteer to do exemptions. Makes me wonder if they are far more complicated to do and that's why they get put off so long though.

They arent complicated to do but they arent going to let some random person do them either. They dont bring people into the fold just to do one thing.

[Keykey]

Thulack...you write like a person that knows too much. Did you give in to the pressure AFTER I left?

They COULD recruit one person to do them. It is a busy, continuous task. I don't know anyone who would WANT to do them every day for a long period of time.

They suck. They aren't complicated but they are time consuming and annoying.

I think it's important to keep them up to date, obviously. Most of the requests are from new players, and again in my opinion, keep the server growing.

I REALLY get annoyed with the "No bump" bullshit.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2134352&postcount=15

[Thulack]

Thulack...you write like a person that knows too much. Did you give in to the pressure AFTER I left?

They COULD recruit one person to do them. It is a busy, continuous task. I don't know anyone who would WANT to do them every day for a long period of time.

They suck. They aren't complicated but they are time consuming and annoying.

I think it's important to keep them up to date, obviously. Most of the requests are from new players, and again in my opinion, keep the server growing.

I REALLY get annoyed with the "No bump" bullshit.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2134352&postcount=15

I just know when i applied to be a guide i didnt want to handle certain parts of the gameplay(namely i didnt want anything to do with the raid scene because i still had friends in the guilds and didnt want a conflict of interest to arise). I was told that if i was in the program that you would have to deal with whatever was given to you basically. It could be different now or it could be a whole different story for forum work but i know database access was very strict in who received it and i would think this would fall under that category. Again though i could be completely wrong and i'm just rambling nonsense.

[Gondule]

This entire thread makes me worry for my request...

[paulgiamatti]

Apply to be a Project 1999 guide today! (https://www.project1999.com/forums/announcement.php?f=33)

[casovar]

I don't really want to be a guide but thanks for the link.

I'd help with exemptions but as Thulack pointed out, they may not accept just some random person. I just feel bad it takes this long. My kids waited through their entire summer vacation to play together and now they are back in school and it still isn't done. I would help out just so others wouldn't be as disappointed as my kids are.

[phacemeltar]

nobody works here

[zacknado]

I ran into 2 (THATS TWO) people in my guild that claimed to take a weekend to get theirs implemented. Applied on Friday and it was implemented on the following Monday, it was them and their husbands( ex EQ players ). I figure there is some secret sauce you must put on it to get accepted/approved. Enough to really irritate ... I think if you mention kids, sadly, they don't approve it. Try re-applying under a new account and say its for you are your wife/husband

Enough to really piss some people off I tell you. Its awesome yall brought old EQ back but really wanna set you on fire in the same day......love and hate all in one *let my kid play with me!!!!*

[Thulack]

I ran into 2 (THATS TWO) people in my guild that claimed to take a weekend to get theirs implemented. Applied on Friday and it was implemented on the following Monday, it was them and their husbands( ex EQ players ). I figure there is some secret sauce you must put on it to get accepted/approved. Enough to really irritate ... I think if you mention kids, sadly, they don't approve it. Try re-applying under a new account and say its for you are your wife/husband

Enough to really piss some people off I tell you. Its awesome yall brought old EQ back but really wanna set you on fire in the same day......love and hate all in one *let my kid play with me!!!!*

Was it recent for them? Exemptions use to be done much more frequently and quicker then they are now due to it being summer time. Reapplying wont do anything considering they will still have to give the same exact information and they work from bottom to top so new requests are done last.

[nectarprime]

I ran into 2 (THATS TWO) people in my guild that claimed to take a weekend to get theirs implemented. Applied on Friday and it was implemented on the following Monday, it was them and their husbands( ex EQ players ). I figure there is some secret sauce you must put on it to get accepted/approved. Enough to really irritate ... I think if you mention kids, sadly, they don't approve it. Try re-applying under a new account and say its for you are your wife/husband

Enough to really piss some people off I tell you. Its awesome yall brought old EQ back but really wanna set you on fire in the same day......love and hate all in one *let my kid play with me!!!!*

Like others have said, it USED to get done far more quickly.

I know that Sirken knows about the exemption backlog as of the other day, so hopefully something comes of it soon.

[zacknado]

they fulfilled at least 2 requests 3 weeks ago at least. These people were on with their spouses, grouped with them, I talked with them, no doubt to me it was real. I dont believe any hoopla about backlog anymore. My request isnt being fulfilled so I feel ok about speaking out about it. If you mention kids on your request its denied.

[nectarprime]

they fulfilled at least 2 requests 3 weeks ago at least. These people were on with their spouses, grouped with them, I talked with them, no doubt to me it was real. I dont believe any hoopla about backlog anymore. My request isnt being fulfilled so I feel ok about speaking out about it. If you mention kids on your request its denied.

If this is true then they should post screencaps of the messages they got when approved. Not calling you a liar, I just think someone somewhere is mistaken.

[zacknado]

screencaps of what? I dont understand what you mean

[nectarprime]

If they have been approved for an exemption, they would have received a response on their post from a moderator telling them such. A screencap of that response would prove your theory correct.

[casovar]

If you mention kids on your request its denied.

I don't believe that for a second so I assume you are being sarcastic?

[zacknado]

I..dont feel comfortable asking them that, sorry. They dont know I'm waiting on approval, I asked questions and gathered info. Didn't hit them with my disappointment, or facts about how Im waiting on approval, was happy for them actually. Guilty until proven innocent I suppose, not gonna do that to people

[nectarprime]

I..dont feel comfortable asking them that, sorry. They dont know I'm waiting on approval, I asked questions and gathered info. Didn't hit them with my disappointment, or facts about how Im waiting on approval, was happy for them actually. Guilty until proven innocent I suppose, not gonna do that to people

So instead of easily getting definitive proof that the guides here pick and choose which people to give exemptions to, you'll instead spread your views about a conspiracy in which the guides do not give exemptions to anyone who mentions "kids" in their exemption request.

Sounds perfectly logical to me. Carry on.

[zacknado]

I don't believe that for a second so I assume you are being sarcastic?

then dont believe it. I have a kid (8) excited to play and he aint being approved while spouses in their 40s are. Hes getting an education on how life works thats for sure. We'll bark when its unfair. Way its gonna be

[zacknado]

So instead of easily getting definitive proof that the guides here pick and choose which people to give exemptions to, you'll instead spread your views about a conspiracy in which the guides do not give exemptions to anyone who mentions "kids" in their exemption request.

Sounds perfectly logical to me. Carry on.

They dont respond...kinda the point. Only left with facts gathered. Cant do much else. I can only hope they start paying attention when someone lights a damn fire about it. Might as well start one

[Thulack]

They dont respond...kinda the point. Only left with facts gathered. Cant do much else. I can only hope they start paying attention when someone lights a damn fire about it. Might as well start one

lol Good luck with that. They wont come running cause there is a fire(which there isnt anyway). They will get done when they get done. People dont like it they can try other servers or use the 2 other means of playing with multiple people(VPN, Mobile hotspot). Server isnt going to die if 20 people cant play with their kids or parents or wives and people that run the server have real lives and real jobs that comes first.

[nectarprime]

They dont respond...kinda the point. Only left with facts gathered. Cant do much else. I can only hope they start paying attention when someone lights a damn fire about it. Might as well start one

As I said, you could easily confirm your suspicions by getting proof. Any guildmate would probably be happy to help you prove your theory correct.

You haven't posted any facts, just speculation. I think your theory is very far fetched. My request for example mentions no kids, just the age of my friend and I (30s). By your logic we would have been approved by now.

[zacknado]

all you've REALLY done is gotten me to stop posting about it. The info about no kids on your request changes my argument , so i have to stop. It was my whole point and its been crushed lol. Its not about kids.....its all of us

[Thulack]

then dont believe it. I have a kid (8) excited to play and he aint being approved while spouses in their 40s are. Hes getting an education on how life works thats for sure. We'll bark when its unfair. Way its gonna be

Umm just a FYI not sure how computer savy your 8 year old is but he might not be able to complete a GM "boxing test". That was the main reason i never bothered for my son was because of his age. Most 8 year olds arent going to be able to read, respond, produce action(things like running figure 8's, etc) in a reasonable amount of time for a GM to think you are not boxing. Some 8 year olds are prodigies though i guess.

[nectarprime]

all you've REALLY done is gotten me to stop posting about it. The info about no kids on your request changes my argument , so i have to stop. It was my whole point and its been crushed lol. Its not about kids.....its all of us

lol ok man, keep dreaming up those conspiracy theories that are easily proven true/false

[ShadowKing01]

Could someone please contact me about an IP exemption?

[nectarprime]

Could someone please contact me about an IP exemption?

You need to post in the Petition section of the forum.

[zacknado]

Umm just a FYI not sure how computer savy your 8 year old is but he might not be able to complete a GM "boxing test". That was the main reason i never bothered for my son was because of his age. Most 8 year olds arent going to be able to read, respond, produce action(things like running figure 8's, etc) in a reasonable amount of time for a GM to think you are not boxing. Some 8 year olds are prodigies though i guess.

this really is offtopic from the original point I was trying to make. But yeah he can read, perform functions, hes been playing with me since he was 3. Wants to play EQ, can run in a fu*king circle if you want him to lol

[zacknado]

lol ok man, keep dreaming up those conspiracy theories that are easily proven true/false

sorry :( kinda feel like a dunce now. It REALLY felt real.....like the other people in my guild were playing together with their spouses, and my kid constantly asks me if we are approved. Crazy stuff....really crazy, like makes you INSANE type stuff

[nectarprime]

sorry :( kinda feel like a dunce now. It REALLY felt real.....like the other people in my guild were playing together with their spouses, and my kid constantly asks me if we are approved. Crazy stuff....really crazy, like makes you INSANE type stuff

I'm not trying to be a dick, sorry if I came off that way. But I think what actually happened is that your guildies got in on the last wave of exemptions that went through.

[Corbin]

I don't want to indulge crazy speculation about mysterious and nonsensical spawnings of IP exemptions. It reminds me of some old EQ myths and the fervor with which they were sometimes regarded;) I also don't want to be responsible for contributing to the headache of any of the volunteer staff working on this very cool project. So, I will offer only this limited information:

1) In 2014 an exemption for my wife and I took less than twelve hours to action.

<We played briefly then uninstalled and took a long break>

2) We just received an IP exemption which we requested a little less than three months ago. I never bumped the request, as per instructions and common knowledge on these forums.

P1999 staff are definitely still managing exemptions.


My opinion

I had assumed (wrongly I think now) that we had been given an earlier exemption already and so were not a priority, which I thought was fair. I believe the staff member handling my exemption this time was relatively much more senior than the staff member who handled our first exemption. This is just an assumption from reading these forums. General perusal of p1999's recent events leads me to believe they are currently understaffed and some things will take more time.

For me, this is a great project. What I like most is that it attempts to capture what I personally think is by far the most charming content of not only Everquest, but of MMOG's altogether and maintain it for future interest. I think the project takes a very long term view. I try to keep this in mind during our stay here.

[ShadowKing01]

Definitely agree thanks for the project!

[zacknado]

love the project thank you! Only complaints here are concerning that of the handling of IP exemption requests, or rather, the ambiguousness of it all. Thank you guys!

[casovar]

FYI my exemption was approved today!

[beefsoup]

All this talk of approved exemptions gives me hope :)

[zacknado]

FYI my exemption was approved today!

Yeah congrats!