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Castamere
07-23-2016, 06:00 PM
I'm sure I'm missing something silly and I swear I've done this before with the previous necro heal over time spells in the line but when I try to cancel magic the top slotted shadowbond debuff it's taking the second buffslot rather than the first. Going crazy here.

Castamere
07-23-2016, 06:12 PM
Dug deeper. Guess being able to Pell the debuff wasn't ever intended. Was this patched recently?

Ando
07-23-2016, 06:56 PM
If by recently you mean ~6-12 months ago, yes.

It was overpowered as shit. It deserved to be fixed, but also made me sad.

Castamere
07-23-2016, 08:11 PM
Must have been more recent than that on red

Froakula
07-23-2016, 09:19 PM
Still works well for me unless I've got a vexing running.

Bristlebaner
07-23-2016, 10:26 PM
Still works.

fash
07-24-2016, 01:12 AM
Do you have max (15) buffs running when attemping this? If a debuff overwrites a buff when you have all buff slots filled, the server and client get out sync. On the client the debuff appears in slot 1. Server-side, it appears in slot 16, so it becomes the last thing to be dispelled.

Try keeping slot 1 and 2 open when the debuff lands on you.

Castamere
07-24-2016, 11:53 AM
For those saying it still works, is it working with only the top slot open? I'll give it a go with two slots.

Castamere
07-24-2016, 11:59 AM
Do you have max (15) buffs running when attemping this? If a debuff overwrites a buff when you have all buff slots filled, the server and client get out sync. On the client the debuff appears in slot 1. Server-side, it appears in slot 16, so it becomes the last thing to be dispelled.

Try keeping slot 1 and 2 open when the debuff lands on you.

Nope, didn't have max buffs. First slot empty. Seemed like it would Pell either my second or third slot.

Raev
07-24-2016, 12:38 PM
Cancel magic is not reliable. Use Nullify or Annul and keep a clicky up for the extra dispell slot.

Nibblewitz
07-25-2016, 12:36 AM
Annul Magic and Recant Magic are the only spells that will reliably remove the top two and four buffs, respectively.

lq4
07-25-2016, 08:39 AM
I quit trying to Dispel the Negative Recourse a while back with the 'Shadow Heals' line after had some folks tell me that it was dropping the positive heal effect on them?

Pseudo tested on Pet a few times that was low health; I could see the big bumps in his HP every tick while the spell was doing it's 4 ticks. If I did the Cancel Magic on myself it seems the big ticks stopped for him as well; mirroring the behavior of what the other players were telling me. (Yes, performed this before the spell naturally wore out)

I presumed this was 'fixed' a while back to link the target-caster effects and to cancel one would cancel the other. Can't prove -- didn't try any further. Now I just don't fret it. Less hassle trying to juggle buffs and don't feel 'dirty' for 'exploiting' the unintended. Shrug.

YMMV and hope it works as expected for you. :)