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syztem
07-11-2016, 05:39 AM
haven't really played a warrior at all, never on live never on p99 so its class is entirely new to me lvl 30+. Got 2x lammys, blind whip, frostbringer, and lodizal club. just hit 52(swarm pl so skills are still that of a level 38 or so) I am figuring FB/club should be best aggro ratio as far as procs go or is it reverse? with FB 12/22 faster then 14/27 on club i am just a bit confused, I know in kunark era this would be a perfect setup but velious i dunno.

soon enough will have willsapper and im guessing that will be sapper/lodizal club also? or is there any better combo out of those weapons. Any reason to hold onto lammys aside from going pure dps with 0 proc if im not tanking?

iksar warrior, also looking for helmet/chest suggestions(loaned fungi to a pal but figure won't really need it so im thinking PSC or if anyone can think of something better) and I guess tranix crown for time being.

Naethyn
07-11-2016, 01:27 PM
Two blood points and a truncheon of doom from 50-60

syztem
07-11-2016, 03:23 PM
BPs i understand for heals and aggro, ToD even for a group with a slows or one that kills so quick doesn't need slows? Might be stuck without bloodpoints for the time being however, no one really sells them on red let alone farms them

Naethyn
07-11-2016, 03:39 PM
The truth is procs aren't that big of a deal. Keeping aggro is more about positioning, white damage, and wooly spider silk nets. Blood points have an 80 LT, and because it both heals and damages it is worth 160 aggro. This may not be more proc aggro than an ac reduction or slow, but it heals you, and it keeps aggro well. Truncheon of Doom is a weapon I still carry because 50% slowing dragons is the best. Its a weapon in groups that I will go in for the first two or three hits with. Sometimes it procs immediately and that mob will be on you for the rest of the fight. How are your other skills like kick, bash, and archery? Your kick will start stunning at 55 and it is super vital that it is max skill. Bash is also good vs caster mobs as you can switch in your shield and interrupt spells. Archery is also very important, because the first thing you do to get on a mobs aggro list is worth 50% less aggro and archery has very low aggro so it is a great first hit.

Thulack
07-11-2016, 04:00 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143899&highlight=warrior+weapon

syztem
07-11-2016, 04:36 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143899&highlight=warrior+weapon

thanks, somewhat helpful for pre velious era. but I will just use my imagination as far as other things like frostreaver and other misc 2h. I know willsapper will surpass most, or at least be better then what I have now.

@Naethyn my skills are that of a level 35 or 38, whenever I stopped leveling him and got him swarmed. So they will need to be skilled up which wont be bad ill sit and beat on something with lots of regen while I get healed or something. 1hb will be a new skill to get up but should go quick with a haste or something. I get the point of carrying a ToD, but simply put half of what you said doesn't much apply to red. As I will not be a main tank, nor an offtank for any type of raid of mini raid situation even. Wooly spider nets and such items are never used on red with the exception of mallets, probably because no recharge or something. I will just have to rely on taunt/procs and white damage.

Naethyn
07-11-2016, 04:50 PM
I didn't catch the red part in your second post.

Jimjam
07-11-2016, 05:10 PM
Still, in a group it is nice to have someone root the target for you. A lot of the time your dps weapons will generate enough hate (so proc weapons pointless*), and some times even your proc weapons will struggle (so again pointless*).

*unless you get bonus utility from those procs; life taps, slows, runes, etc.

syztem
07-11-2016, 05:32 PM
also im sure i can find this info else where, reading over the disciplines. defensive seems to be the go to? is there any reason to ever use evasive or when it comes to that is that raid specific, boss specific only? 3min duration sounds nice with 7 and 10 min re use timers for grouping at the very least. as far as for damage, seems like precision may be the best way to go instead of felstrike? at least in a fight long enough to make 3 minutes count?

Jimjam
07-11-2016, 06:00 PM
Evasive is also handy if you want to cast clicky spells or attempt bandaging while fighting.

Mighty strike is handy when berserk as it will allow you to spam crippling blows, which is good for preventing mobs from swinging/casting/running.

syztem
07-11-2016, 07:27 PM
ah yeah I forgot didn't remember about mighty strike with crippling, good to know!

Naethyn
07-11-2016, 11:03 PM
Evasive will reduce npc procs and precision is the best pve disc for dps.

TheFishyOne
07-15-2016, 08:59 AM
Really, it depends on how quickly whatever it is your group is killing will die. All proc weapons have the same chance to proc, which is your the quotient of your DEX and 255, multiplied by 1.5, with 0.5 added to that, and that value divided by how many times you will swing your weapon in a minute. Half that value for your OH. Basically, with 255 DEX, if the fights are lastingless than 30sec each, you will be tanking more of the time with a fast weapon in your MH and a weapon with a good ratio in your OH, irrespective of any procs.

Sakuragi gives a really good breakdown of this in his guide on the wiki, check it out.

eisley
07-17-2016, 10:37 AM
using a spells_us.txt parser actually reveals that the blood point proc, Siphon, has a +200 hate mod on it. probably not classic, but it explains why it does higher aggro than expected.

Legday
07-21-2016, 03:14 PM
Root is the best way to hold agro.

SowIsLifeSowIsLove
07-21-2016, 06:41 PM
Staff of battle on the cheap for good lower lvl aggro. And make your way to DN for an infestation, massive aggro proc. Better do it before next patch as he gets a major nerf on spawn time.

syztem
07-25-2016, 08:51 AM
got a willsapper, that with club offhand sometimes frostbringer aggro is ezpz almost with taunt alone sub 60 still 0 issues.

Ragnaros
07-25-2016, 12:45 PM
shoulda made a half elf jupey

Xaanka
07-26-2016, 07:45 PM
shoulda made a half elf jupey

half elf warrior was my first 60 on live, gangster as fuck

Jimjam
07-27-2016, 01:03 AM
half elf warrior was my first 60 on live, gangster as fuck

The only class half elves can combo with innoruuk!