Keep the server "Classic!"

[Mleh]

This is a rant about the PvP environment and what has been altered.

I frequently complain about things like AoN name plates, and the reply is always "Well it's how it was in classic!" which has lead to the item being god tiered and essential to any "big shot PvPer."

My number one complaint on this server is that a single player such as a monk or rogue can essentially 1v10 and cause havoc because people have to be super aware and organized to "stop them."

Many things were taken away from the server to deal with "mini bosses:"
- Recharging
Recycling items would help almost every "new player" who can't pay 1k plat for expendables that are camped by raid geared PvP lords.

- Adding cast times to items because they are "too good."
Items deemed "Clickies" were untouched on the premise that they are fun and useful for the top players. They have since become the standard of PvP to avoid being dispelled in 1v1/1v2+
However, adding cast times to items like Golem Metal Wand essentially unbalances "clickies" because now there is no way to deal with them unless you have 3+ people with coordinated pumices or casters with pillage enchantment, and even then you are wasting all kinds of time while they run around and do whatever they want.

- Removing PvP interaction from items
Items such as Ivandyr's Hoop / Trakanon's Tooth / Death Scarab Gland etc; may be the only logical items that should not be rechargeable, however it was CLASSIC that they freely existed. The server allows people to freely gate from PvP with items when things get too hairy, yet does not allow quick kill items to prevent this.


TL;DR: I fail to understand why GMs did custom surgery on PvP mechanics, when all it did was create different conflicts and advantages.

[Bazia]

u must be be new if u think u want rechargeable clickies on an eq pvp server

[Samsung]

Didn't read

[Mleh]

u must be be new if u think u want rechargeable clickies on an eq pvp server

Spent years on Rallos Zek looting items and being item looted, no complaints to a fair playing field.

I understand it would basically lead to both sides of PvP being dispelled into oblivion instantly, but specific things should be dealt with subtly, not changing a major mechanic all together.

As long as you can't instantly kill players with a cheap recharge I see no problems. Expensive recharges, Level minimums to use items, there are all sorts of creative ways to keep things "fair" without butchering mechanics all together.

[Bazia]

Didn't read

newfag thinks rechargeable trak tooths should be in the game and doesn't understand why we asked for it to be patched out

[Mleh]

newfag thinks rechargeable trak tooths should be in the game and doesn't understand why we asked for it to be patched out
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Items such as Ivandyr's Hoop / Trakanon's Tooth / Death Scarab Gland etc; may be the only logical items that should not be rechargeable
Yeah I may be a newfag here but explaining why things changed rather than lashing out would be more productive.

[TacoSmasher]

samsung us a toxic goofball. dont expect much from these schmucks mleh

[Farzo]

The issue with things like trak teeth are simple. I have 2k hp self buffed on my druid. A sk can ht for 1.1k.....so to instant kill a decent geared druid would require a trak tooth and a ht. (This would include wiz,necros,chanters etc).

If you can recharge golem wands everyone will have them and use them with impunity.

What they really need to do is remove yt so that blasted board with disappear and people wont be afraid 2 pvp.

Slather literally tl'd away from me @ 81% hp bcoz he's so terrified of dying.

[hurt]

I don't think there are any major issues with the pvp mechanics right now.

The primary issue with the pvp environment is that the vast majority of the server simply do not want pvp and become furious when attacked/killed.

[TacoSmasher]

thats not an issue, killing people who become furious is the best part.

mleh is right tho, wands should be instant cast. as for recharging and the rest, fuck that

[Ragnaros]

you think you want instant cast wands till it happens to you

[Redi]

OP is correct.

Red99 has been turned into a frankenweenie server with all of these thoughtless, unclassic, bandaid patches and customization. It's the sole reason the server is the way it is.

Please undo changes and redo launch. All the code and time line exists already, literally no excuse.

[maerilith]

recharges + cast times has it's ups and downs.

classic pumice IMO all the way without cast times, make it so bronze melees can pumice away and take out casters.

Seems good to me.

[Bazia]

sorry retti but conflag wands in classic are for faggots one thing rogaine got right

[Samsung]

sorry retti but conflag wands in classic are for faggots one thing rogaine got right

Also trak teeth during kunark was retarded.

[Bazia]

i mean i dont mind them just no recharges

[Stasis01]

Everyone will have Golems Wands instant cast, just makes it gay TBH.

[Stasis01]

The main thing they could do is add boxing so guilds can actually have clerics to raid with, and support classes to play with.

EQ without a population makes it unplayable, and no one wants to play those classes on PVP.

All other ideas are a waste of time and just preference tweaks.

[Uuruk]

Don't mind Samsung OP. He got hit in the head by a whale this morning.

[Stasis01]

There just isn't enough fat retarded angry guys to play chick clerics with the name Sparkling.

Especially ones that want to play in the #2 guild. It just won't happen.

[TacoSmasher]

this stasis guy is a really stupid faggot.

[Gardur]

Why the devs won't release a fresh box now that all the coding and timeline are correct is beyond me.

Like you did all the hard work now just hit the reset button and watch it flourish.

Wipe isn't necessary just make a new box on classic timeline and merge them a year into velious.

I would pay server costs for a year for that without hesitation.

[HippoNipple]

The issue with things like trak teeth are simple. I have 2k hp self buffed on my druid. A sk can ht for 1.1k.....so to instant kill a decent geared druid would require a trak tooth and a ht. (This would include wiz,necros,chanters etc).

If you can recharge golem wands everyone will have them and use them with impunity.

What they really need to do is remove yt so that blasted board with disappear and people wont be afraid 2 pvp.


I would want YT and PvP to disappear if I was you too.

[derpcake]

this stasis guy is a really stupid faggot.

that even an insult anymore given the amount of tranny around?

pig in a cow stable still the smartest one around right

[Samsung]

Why the devs won't release a fresh box now that all the coding and timeline are correct is beyond me.

Like you did all the hard work now just hit the reset button and watch it flourish.

Wipe isn't necessary just make a new box on classic timeline and merge them a year into velious.

I would pay server costs for a year for that without hesitation.

Well said.

[Ruinous]

Nerfing insta-click items like golem wand and trak tooth was one of the few good things they did to this server.

Cry that it was classic all you'd like. The items themselves may be classic, that's true. However, it's been 16 years since this game opened and the community itself is no longer "classic" because none of this content is new and unknown. Nobody on live ran around abusing those items, and I guarantee that if they did start to be abused on live, they'd have gotten nerfed down the road just the same as any other unfair advantage in PVP did, such as fear.

They did a good thing imo. It was in the spirit of classic EQ pvp. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

[dis_mornin]

Blah blah blah seen this thread a 1000 times.

[Ragnaros]

ya staff dont give a fuk, they have the same mentality live had
just let the pvp servers rott

[maerilith]

game was still fun both ways, just dumb when it takes 2 years to compete in boring velious frozen wastes

[Ragnaros]

compete
lol

[Bazia]

The main thing they could do is add boxing so guilds can actually have clerics to raid with, and support classes to play with.

EQ without a population makes it unplayable, and no one wants to play those classes on PVP.

All other ideas are a waste of time and just preference tweaks.

problem here is

ur idea is a waste of time and just a preference tweak

[maerilith]

compete
lol

Computing on who can grief who at dragons and manastone camp a lot of fun IMO! Red Dawn + ladyvox naggy, + all that drama around holocaust and nihilium waz great days

PvP is competing, competing for infamy, fame, recogniztionz, bans, w/es

Not everyone competes for the same reasons, but competition none-the-less

[maerilith]

Computing on who can grief who at dragons and manastone camp a lot of fun IMO! Red Dawn + ladyvox naggy, + all that drama around holocaust and nihilium waz great days

PvP is competing, competing for infamy, fame, recogniztionz, bans, w/es

Not everyone competes for the same reasons, but competition none-the-less

Also the original days of KC was pretty fun 2

[maerilith]

The main thing they could do is add boxing so guilds can actually have clerics to raid with, and support classes to play with.

EQ without a population makes it unplayable, and no one wants to play those classes on PVP.

All other ideas are a waste of time and just preference tweaks.

Why not just remove clerics from the character select screen and give everyone an imp that casts level 24 celestial elixer or whatever only over and over?

[maerilith]

Why not just remove clerics from the character select screen and give everyone an imp that casts level 24 celestial elixer or whatever only over and over?

Also if you weren't such a big faggot, maybe the trannies that love playing clerics would have stayed in ur guild and competed for more epic legendary lulz?

[Ragnaros]

Computing on who can grief who at dragons and manastone camp a lot of fun IMO! Red Dawn + ladyvox naggy, + all that drama around holocaust and nihilium waz great days

PvP is competing, competing for infamy, fame, recogniztionz, bans, w/es

Not everyone competes for the same reasons, but competition none-the-less

u said competing in velious
there is no competing in velious with 120 population

[maerilith]

Ever day I'm allowed to post, god kills another pixels. :(

[blammo]

id love to have rechargeable soulfires, puppet strings, trak teeth, bladestoppers, and wort pots on my characters

lets make it happen

[Ragnaros]

how would u recharge trak teeth

[demundus]

how would u recharge trak teeth

Hi I'm ignorant and the only EQ I know is a "classic" R99 server -Rag 2016

[Ragnaros]

fite me

[Darkone]

Spent years on Rallos Zek looting items and being item looted, no complaints to a fair playing field.

the only thing you did right was the post this in rants & flame cuz obvious bad suggestion that no one should take seriously at any point

turns out the game is completely different when everyone is an expert ( minus you ofcourse ) we already had item recharge on this server and it was more empty then than it is now. Recharging only worked on live cause people were literally retarded and bad at the game, even the worst player here will use it and it nullifies any skill in pvp to have people clicking instant cast items with recharge.

your "rallos zek" pvp career means nothing to me and you should go ahead an suck my expert everquest dick

[Paleman]

pvp was never even remotely balanced in eq. This is how it was. If you want fairness there are other games.

[maerilith]

how would u recharge trak teeth

by earning dkp duh

[Ragnaros]

maerlith pm me plz

[maerilith]

by earning dkp duh

or buying dkp

[demundus]

or buying dkp

Now you're talkin.

[Ragnaros]

sharkiesha u comin 2 pick me up in ur tesla?

[maerilith]

sharkiesha u comin 2 pick me up in ur tesla?

http://i.imgur.com/3yNaCtV.png

[demundus]

sharkiesha u comin 2 pick me up in ur tesla?

No, I'll send my driver.

[Ragnaros]

fancy