Nigel "The Hammer" Farage

[Blitzers]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/28/pro-brexit-lawmaker-nigel-farage-lets-hostile-european-parliament-have-it-youre-not-laughing-now-are-you/

Laying the smack down.

[sOurDieSel]

Speech was epic and rustled all of the EU fanboys and Zio-Shills in attendance.

"You're not laughing now."

"Merchant Banks."

[Jarnauga]

https://i.imgur.com/pPIGeWP.jpg

You're not laughing now

https://i.imgur.com/04rEJRs.jpg

[Secrets]

Can't Barrage the Farrage

[maskedmelon]

This about poverty ball?

[Jorgam]

It was a great bit of commentary on his part for sure. Those jackass EU mini-tyrants were all booing lol. Listen to some of his debates and comments/speeches in years past and leading up to the vote! Hilariously candid and clever, but speaking the truth still.

Trump/Farrage 2016!

If only..

[maskedmelon]

Ohhh, injust warned his speech. Good man securing the liberty And protecting the interests of his people.

[Ahldagor]

Question is whether or not parliament will enact article 50. The vote wasn't legally binding.

[Jorgam]

Question is whether or not parliament will enact article 50. The vote wasn't legally binding.

That remains to be seen. Cameron deferred to the next PM to do so, however the EU mini-tyrants are clamoring for immediate declaration in order to have any shot at a trade deal with them. They will inflict as much pain on the UK as they can so as threaten others who would otherwise like to tell them where to put their totalitarian ambitions.

[Ahldagor]

That remains to be seen. Cameron deferred to the next PM to do so, however the EU mini-tyrants are clamoring for immediate declaration in order to have any shot at a trade deal with them. They will inflict as much pain on the UK as they can so as threaten others who would otherwise like to tell them where to put their totalitarian ambitions.

The sooner the process is over then the sooner economic uncertainty ceases. The EU wants it quick in order to begin the two year time frame for the renegotiation of trade agreements which will likely keep a majority of the current trade, economic regulations in place due to the EU requiring such things in order to trade with them (What Norway currently does).

[maskedmelon]

EU is BDA. UK just decided EU's open recruitment, loot council, Zerg mentality was not for them.

[Blitzers]

EU is BDA. UK just decided EU's open recruitment, loot council, Zerg mentality was not for them.

I'm sick of those fockers loot counciling my fucking Lambo.

[Jarnauga]

no wonder why you guys have a hardon for ukip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS1NzFfCTIA , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeuGftA1cxE ..

hell there's even a whole twitter account dedicated to picture the racism in UK right now.

https://twitter.com/PostRefRacism

http://i.imgur.com/nQFJfzl.mp4

But yeah, UKIP and vote leave had nothing to do with xenophobia :D it's always easier to blame foreigners for your own problems, right ? oldest trick in the book.

And boris "great leader of independant uk" johnson that just gave up on being PM.. not even one week after the vote.. shit's so funny !

[Jarnauga]

omg the face :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqs6PuQrHbQ

comments on reddit are pure gold

It's like an anti-Game of Thrones, where all the leaders are desperately trying to avoid having to take the crown. :D

[maskedmelon]

no wonder why you guys have a hardon for ukip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS1NzFfCTIA , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeuGftA1cxE ..

hell there's even a whole twitter account dedicated to picture the racism in UK right now.

https://twitter.com/PostRefRacism

http://i.imgur.com/nQFJfzl.mp4

But yeah, UKIP and vote leave had nothing to do with xenophobia :D it's always easier to blame foreigners for your own problems, right ? oldest trick in the book.

And boris "great leader of independant uk" johnson that just gave up on being PM.. not even one week after the vote.. shit's so funny !

Why you have all this hate for minorities? Pretty gross tbh.

[Alarti0001]

Trading at 1.35 today, it's recovering...it'll be fine <3

and back down to 1.33; 1.32 was the 2008 recession low. It will recover sure... but I'd guess it will plateau around 1.4

[Alarti0001]

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/#more-14746

[Jorgam]

omg the face :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqs6PuQrHbQ

comments on reddit are pure gold

:D

Umm there was a fissure in the Tory party it looked like to me and this other guy, who said he would never want to be or run for PM, announced he'd be running and that he didn't believe Boris had the ability to lead after this point. Boris seemingly agreed and deferred, which is saying a lot compared to fucking loser Labour party who is in total meltdown and whose leader, Jeremy Corbin (sp) refuses to step down when most of his party wants him to. Once again, liberals proving that they have no respect for the will of any peoples, even their own. Cram it up your ass, mini-tyrant.

[Ahldagor]

Who is blaming foreigners for a political union of 27-28 countries, in a Union that will not stop expanding and adding poor countries? Have you seen what EU membership did to Greece?

The "you voted out because you're a racist" comments are usually from people who have no grasp of economics and are from people who are very narrow minded.

They also don't grasp the difference between racism and nationalism.

[maskedmelon]

They also don't grasp the difference between racism and nationalism.

Both are forms of exclusion, which is without redeem for many (most?) on the modern left. It's not about race or gender or religion or age or national origin or anything else. Its adolescent rage against rejection in general.

[Jarnauga]

They also don't grasp the difference between racism and nationalism.

yep, keep telling that to yourself

http://imgur.com/NLMvTDV

[sOurDieSel]

They also don't grasp the difference between racism and nationalism.

ONLY A RACIST WOULD SAY THAT, RACIST!

[Nirgon]

Not a great analogy really. BDA left because they didn't want to compete anymore. The UK needs to show strength more now than ever, not weakness (BDA).

Can't complain your way into top loots in Velious, u no?

[Ahldagor]

yep, keep telling that to yourself

http://imgur.com/NLMvTDV

A white supremacist may not be nationalist. If anything that guy might be an Asatruist.

[Domo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmRw2FoWAAACkdl.jpg

Thats the UK in a nutshell right now. Cheerypickers.

I love the UK, I accept ther referendum, but I wont accept a special threatment/deal with the UK now. Either you join the EU and accept the rules which apply to all other 27 nations, or you stay out and handle your problems on your own.

We can be still friends, but not friends with benefits.

The EU is far away from being perfect, but its worth working together for it so it gets better in the futher.
Its at laest better then crying around and running away.

[maskedmelon]

EU: "Join us or fuck off."

Not really any room for friendly cooperation.

[Pokesan]

Sure, if "fuck off" means "we won't treat you like a member of the EU"

[maskedmelon]

it does...

[Jorgam]

Sure, if "fuck off" means "we won't treat you like a member of the EU"

Like a white artist at the BET awards. But it isn't any kind of ist since they are Europeans and they are so forward thinking and inclusive, right?

[Jorgam]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmRw2FoWAAACkdl.jpg

Thats the UK in a nutshell right now. Cheerypickers.

I love the UK, I accept ther referendum, but I wont accept a special threatment/deal with the UK now. Either you join the EU and accept the rules which apply to all other 27 nations, or you stay out and handle your problems on your own.

We can be still friends, but not friends with benefits.

The EU is far away from being perfect, but its worth working together for it so it gets better in the futher.
Its at laest better then crying around and running away.

Enjoy Islamofascism.

[Domo]

Enjoy Islamofascism

I dont give a fuck about religions.
I am 34 years old, I sure dont know everythink, but I know that you got in every fucking cultur, religion, country, familiy... some assholes.

[Pokesan]

Like a white artist at the BET awards. But it isn't any kind of ist since they are Europeans and they are so forward thinking and inclusive, right?

Your childlike misunderstanding of racism notwithstanding - I ask for your opinion on the lack of black oscar nominees?

[Jorgam]

Your childlike misunderstanding of racism notwithstanding - I ask for your opinion on the lack of black oscar nominees?

A lack is not the same as none at all, like whites winning BET awards.

[big_ole_jpn]

4chan "Real Gay" Thread

[Pokesan]

A lack is not the same as none at all, like whites winning BET awards.

can you name one white person who should have won a BET award? There are BET awards? How often do you watch BET to give so many shits about it?

[AzzarTheGod]

Speech was epic and rustled all of the EU fanboys and Zio-Shills in attendance.

"You're not laughing now."

"Merchant Banks."

The dunks. Love how he pulled zog's card and took a shit on their respective lifes work. (the euro currency).

Great Man Theory exists because of people like this.

[barrettdc1]

Your childlike misunderstanding of racism notwithstanding - I ask for your opinion on the lack of black oscar nominees?

Hiring more blacks to vote to fill a colored quota is the only solution.

[Jarnauga]

UKIP Lord ‘calls for EU nationals to be used as hostages’ (http://thisisengland.org.uk/watch-ukip-lord-calls-for-eu-nationals-to-be-used-as-hostages/)

http://i.imgur.com/YUyLXXi.gif

UKIP, laughing stock of the world, keep going :p

[Raev]

Do the Government agree however, that if the EU were to get difficult with our nationals living there, it is we who would hold the stronger hand if we retaliate, because so many more of them are living here?

This isn't really a very provocative quote. In fact it was their political opposition who made the (rather ridiculous) leap from this to 'lets hold millions of EU citizens hostage'. Did you even read this article? Then the next step for you is realizing just how biased the liberal/globalist media really is.

You could sit at home, and do like absolutely nothing, and your name goes through like 17 computers a day. 1984? Yeah right, man. That's a typo. Orwell is here now. He's livin' large. We have no names, man. No names. We are nameless!

[AzzarTheGod]

Hiring more blacks to vote to fill a colored quota is the only solution.

wham.

What you know about this fuckboys? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man_theory

Now Nigel's 'wrist match the status of his record' - hov

[Jarnauga]

This isn't really a very provocative quote. In fact it was their political opposition who made the (rather ridiculous) leap from this to 'lets hold millions of EU citizens hostage'. Did you even read this article? Then the next step for you is realizing just how biased the liberal/globalist media really is.

ok, i always thought you were a dumbass, i'm glad you're confirming.

the "liberal/globalist media bias" is the new joker card when presented facts. Of course it's a politically correct way of saying "hurr the jews control everything" which is funny coming from people that are against the politically correct.. ;)

Can't wait to see trump elected/not. Either way it's gonna be a shitshow, the memes are gonna be great :p

[AzzarTheGod]

Nigel Used to rock a throwback, ballin on the corner
Now he rock a tailored suit, lookin like a owner

No he not a Jonas, Brother he a grown up
No he not a virgin, he use his cojones

bars

[Raev]

ok, i always thought you were a dumbass, i'm glad you're confirming.

the "liberal/globalist media bias" is the new joker card when presented facts. Of course it's a politically correct way of saying "hurr the jews control everything" which is funny coming from people that are against the politically correct.. ;)

Can't wait to see trump elected/not. Either way it's gonna be a shitshow, the memes are gonna be great :p

Do you actually feel like the title of the article is a fair representation of what the UKIP MP said? It seems like you are the one 'playing the joker card' when presented with facts here.

[Jarnauga]

Do you actually feel like the title of the article is a fair representation of what the UKIP MP said? It seems like you are the one 'playing the joker card' when presented with facts here.


Do the Government agree however, that if the EU were to get difficult with our nationals living there, it is we who would hold the stronger hand if we retaliate, because so many more of them are living here?

He's talking about people here. Ok ? Not about trade agreements, or the cow meat tariffs.

If you're not upset about a representative of the people in a democratic country openly talking about people like bargaining chips, i don't know what to say to you.

Happy to see the other lords shouting "shame!" though :p

Also Farage resigning.. so in a week, cameron, johnson, farage.. just missing corbyn (who has been voted against by his own party at 80%) im out of laughing gifs !

[Pokesan]

It's extremely unfair to hold a politician responsible for the meaning of the words he spoke.

[derpcake]

I like how Farage still claims his payments from his EU job.

Curses a ship, sets the ship on fire, abandons the cursed burning ship .. still tries to haul out every last copper.

A man of principles, a true visionary.

[derpcake]

Question is whether or not parliament will enact article 50. The vote wasn't legally binding.

Its pretty hilarious the see the UK have the big men necessary to start this shit, but noone that actually wants to deal with it.

[Skew]

He's talking about people here. Ok ? Not about trade agreements, or the cow meat tariffs.

If you're not upset about a representative of the people in a democratic country openly talking about people like bargaining chips, i don't know what to say to you.

Happy to see the other lords shouting "shame!" though :p

Also Farage resigning.. so in a week, cameron, johnson, farage.. just missing corbyn (who has been voted against by his own party at 80%) im out of laughing gifs !

Corbyn is a British version of Bernie Sanders (so both inhabit cloud cuckoo land) but you do realise he has overwhelming support amongst Labor voters and its just the bought and paid for shills in the shadow cabinet that hate him?

What youre witnessing is the 4th turning. Voters all over the Western Hemisphere have had enough of the status quo - 2 sides of the same coin. Leaders and establishment hacks throughout Europe are going to get mowed down in every election over the next few years.

I have been enjoying the so called progressive left marching side by side with confused Millenials in London this week at their pro EU rallies. They seem unable to grasp they are now bedfellows and supporters of big banks , crony capitalism and corporate facism. Everything they pretend to hate.

[Ahldagor]

Its pretty hilarious the see the UK have the big men necessary to start this shit, but noone that actually wants to deal with it.

Pass the buck and cash out. Politicians do it best.

[derpcake]

Pass the buck and cash out. Politicians do it best.

This guy did it with audacity though.

"OH NOES THE EU IS TAKING OUR NHS MONEY"

/bandwagon gets started, pound crashes

"WELP I'M OUTTA HERE, AFTER I COLLECT THE REST OF MY EU MONEYZ"

Wonder if he gets payed in euro or pound, guessing the former or he'd have asked for compensation already.

Hilarious, really.

[Raev]

Do the Government agree however, that if the EU were to get difficult with our nationals living there, it is we who would hold the stronger hand if we retaliate, because so many more of them are living here?

If you're not upset about a representative of the people in a democratic country openly talking about people like bargaining chips, i don't know what to say to you.

What on earth are you talking about? First off, 'get difficult' does not mean 'put into concentration camps' or 'conduct hostage exchange'. He is referring to bureaucratic red tape, like if the EU countries were to suddenly audit all of their UK citizens to be obnoxious. Second, the whole sentence is a conditional, i.e. IF the EU were to do this, the UK would be in the stronger position, ergo they probably won't.

I really don't see how anyone can read that quote as anything but a politician looking after his constituents. Unless you are a biased member of the liberal/global media, in which you try to score cheap points by shouting shame and writing ridiculously titled articles. The sad thing is that you are falling for it.

[Jarnauga]

Unless you are a biased member of the liberal/global media..

can you stop repeating that like you just discovered the watergate ..? seriously, that's ridiculous. I'm sure you gloat about "questioning everything" that probably makes you think that the CIA killed JFK, bush knocked down the towers, obama is a muslim-kenyan, global warming is a con to weaken the USA and evolution is a lie to pervert the youth into watching tranny porn that will turn you into a communist feminazi.

..which is basically a way of saying "i know better than everyone else because everyone is dum beside meh"

It's seriously sad to see how anybody can wipe away any arguments by resorting by the "hurrr liberal media durr" trick. But i guess this is how a guy that 75% of the time says complete bullshit (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/) (beware: liberal/shapeshifting lizard media ahead) gets at the gate of the white house ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[big_ole_jpn]

evolution is a lie to pervert the youth into watching tranny porn that will turn you into a communist feminazi.

funny thing is that this is actually happening (nothing to do w/ biological evolution, but indeed to do with dawkins).

Just ask this guy

http://i.imgur.com/QqHcw1p.jpg

[maskedmelon]

I still find the vitriol expressed by EU supporters interesting given their professed embrace of liberty and equality. Just another example of leftist "join us or die," mentality shared with their favored religion. Why not shake hands with UK, go separate ways and seek to work together where common interests are held?

[Domo]

Why not shake hands with UK, go separate ways and seek to work together where common interests are held?

Well, respect is not a "One Way", and right now the UK accting like cheerypickers.

[maskedmelon]

Well, respect is not a "One Way", and right now the UK accting like cheerypickers.

I know, damn minorities refusing to just shit up and go along with the majority EU. Dissenting assholes must be squashed, amirite?

[Domo]

Farage said himself that he worked for 17 years to get the UK out of the EU. I am wondering if he tryed even once in those 17 years to work with the EU and maybe lead the EU a bit in the UKs way.

That the problem with all those conservativ partys around the globe. They crying and bitch about everythink instead of trying to find a solution and work for it.

[maskedmelon]

And it is A-OK to dislike conservatives. I just find the hypocrisy (in general) amusing.

[Jarnauga]

Nigel Farage has done what he needed to do, it took him 2 decades if not longer to get the referendum which we wouldnt have had without the political pressure he put on the government.


One question: why not wait that UK actually uses articke 50 ? You get that the referendum has no legal binding, right ? If i were really fighting EU etc, i'd be staying until UK is actually out.

Don't fool yourself swish, he's jumping ship because he knows that the leave camp is about to get shit on :D just like johnson.

Maskedmelon: people of the UK have every right to get out of the EU, nobody denies them that right.. you have every right to think that justin bieber is the best artist of the millenium, that doesn't make it less dumb :D

[maskedmelon]

Maskedmelon: people of the UK have every right to get out of the EU, nobody denies them that right.. you have every right to think that justin bieber is the best artist of the millenium, that doesn't make it less dumb :D

Oh, they do? Well now, that's different. Thanks for clearing that up.

The best artist of the new millennium is Kyary Pamyu Pamyu. It's not open to debate.

[Jarnauga]

I still find it hilarious that pro-remain people are in denial about the vote being authentic or binding.

How can you have ANYTHING more binding than a vote from the will of the people in a democracy? If they overturn the result its going to get ugly fast.

I agree with you 100%.

This is why they're all jumping ship.

[derpcake]

They might as well have done a referendum, asking people "should everyone get 10.000$ / month?"

"350.000.000 / week towards the NHS!"

"free Porsche for everyone!"

"AoNs for all!"

This is exactly why stupid politicians are far bigger danger then the things they claim their voters should fear.

Unsure what events in recent history came remotely close to this, when it comes to damaging the UK's economy.

[maskedmelon]

They might as well have done a referendum, asking people "should everyone get 10.000$ / month?"

"350.000.000 / week towards the NHS!"

"free Porsche for everyone!"

"AoNs for all!"

This is exactly why stupid politicians are far bigger danger then the things they claim their voters should fear.

Unsure what events in recent history came remotely close to this, when it comes to damaging the UK's economy.

Indeed, people should not be permitted to govern themselves. Thank you for the insight.

[Raev]

can you stop repeating that like you just discovered the watergate ..? seriously, that's ridiculous. It's seriously sad to see how anybody can wipe away any arguments by resorting by the "hurrr liberal media durr" trick.

OK, so you agree that the UKIP quote in question was fairly germane and that this article was not a fair representation of it. That's good progress!

Now, on to your ridiculous straw man. It would require a great deal of empirical work to actually prove bias in the media, so if you choose to disagree with me I can't throw down numbers. The reality is that humans are very susceptible to persuasion. The writer can omit facts or use any number of psychological techniques. Let me give you a few examples:

1. Think back to the very article we discussed. The title was effectively 'UKIP wants to hold EU citizens hostage', a ridiculous stretch from the actual quote. You read said title, applied confirmation bias (like we all do), and concluded that the UKIP was the second coming of the Nazi party.

2. The night before the California primary, the Associated Press ran an article that Hillary Clinton had won the Democratic nomination. This was extremely dubious because they counted her superdelegates (who won't actually vote until the convention, and can change their mind). They ran the article because Sanders was primed to make a great showing in California, and HRC is the bankers 'we want to continue pillaging the country' candidate.

3. Google for '500 euro bill'. It's about to be taken out because the central bankers claim that it's being used by crime syndicates. Reality: bankers can't implement negative interest rates on cash, and since all governments are already bankrupt from socialist welfare programs, they are going to need to dip into your bank account sooner rather than later, and they can't do that if it's a bunch of bills in the mattress.

Oh, and just as a kicker:

4. Anthropogenic global warming *is not science*. We know the earth is getting warmer, although it's stopped for the past 20 years or so, the question is why. This can't be answered scientifically, because there is no control group. So all we have is a bunch of computer simulations of a chaotic system (i.e. a system that is theoretically difficult to simulate) that we don't understand completely by people whose funding is controlled by socialists who want to use global warming as an excuse for big government. Amazingly, their results come back indicating disaster.

Even so, as an environmentalist I'd rather not take chances and move towards more renewable energy, but the reality is that most greenhouse gases come from China and the third world, so there isn't much point in doing anything.

[derpcake]

Indeed, people should not be permitted to govern themselves. Thank you for the insight.

Correct, and there are no modern democracies that work like that.

When discussing the rights of the majority vs a minority, you do not compare simple percentages, this is now how it works.

Which is a good thing, because I'm sure we can all think of many aspects in our lives in which we are a minority (having a big savings account, driving a sports car, drinking / smoking / eating unhealthy, posting dumb shit on forums,..)

Do you think all those privileges / habits should be voted on?

Because it would easy to find a majority vote to take those away from all that enjoy them.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I think this relates to the government form people like you would cultivate without a thought.

[derpcake]

3. Google for '500 euro bill'. It's about to be taken out because the central bankers claim that it's being used by crime syndicates. Reality: bankers can't implement negative interest rates on cash, and since all governments are already bankrupt from socialist welfare programs, they are going to need to dip into your bank account sooner rather than later, and they can't do that if it's a bunch of bills in the mattress.

Google "inflation"

I did not read the rest of your post, nor do I feel you warrant any further discussion on a serious level.

I can't imagine how stupid you are. You rustled me, so if you a troll, well done.

You think they would take 500€ bills out of circulation, because people won't have 5x as much space to store them, while gold / diamonds and others are still widely available?

Dear god, it hurts me to think people like you get a vote. Not that I would want to take it away, its just painful to write it out like this.

[maskedmelon]

Correct, and there are no modern democracies that work like that.


Actually, state governments in the US have provisions that function this way.


When discussing the rights of the majority vs a minority, you do not compare simple percentages, this is now how it works.

Which is a good thing, because I'm sure we can all think of many aspects in our lives in which we are a minority (having a big savings account, driving a sports car, drinking / smoking / eating unhealthy, posting dumb shit on forums,..)

Do you think all those privileges / habits should be voted on?

Because it would easy to find a majority vote to take those away from all that enjoy them.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I think this relates to the government form people like you would cultivate without a thought.

Ok, now apply this to UK as a part of the EU.

Want me to explain how to tie your shoes next?

[derpcake]

1)Actually, state governments in the US have provisions that function this way.



2) Ok, now apply this to UK as a part of the EU.

Want me to explain how to tie your shoes next?

1) the questions asked will not disadvantage minorities in a serious way

unlike the brexit has an effect on your expats, for example, nor on the people working in import-industries

2) i'm fine with you not grasping the concept

i wear velcros bro, it makes me fit in with people like you on the rare days i have to use public transport

[Raev]

You think they would take 500€ bills out of circulation, because people won't have 5x as much space to store them, while gold / diamonds and others are still widely available?

At the moment, it's not possible to directly buy things with gold. Most people don't think of gold and diamonds and fine art and such as money.

In the future, they will simply confiscate the gold.

[derpcake]

At the moment, it's not possible to directly buy things with gold. Most people don't think of gold and diamonds and fine art and such as money.

In the future, they will simply confiscate the gold.

Why would they outlaw 500€ bills, when they can just confiscate what they want?

Makes zero sense, and I'm trying here.

And who is "they"?

The governement you democratically elect?

kek

[Raev]

Why would they outlaw 500€ bills, when they can just confiscate what they want?

Makes zero sense, and I'm trying here.

And who is "they"?

The governement you democratically elect?

kek

They are effectively confiscating the 500E bills, and yes 'they' refers to the government.

[maskedmelon]

1) the questions asked will not disadvantage minorities in a serious way

unlike the brexit has an effect on your expats, for example, nor on the people working in import-industries

2) i'm fine with you not grasping the concept

i wear velcros bro, it makes me fit in with people like you on the rare days i have to use public transport

1. I was only pointing out that you are wrong. You are free to wallow in the merit of the system as you like though.

2. Well, I don't have the luxury of owning a vehicle or a driver. Help me out if you would though. The UK represents a minority group within the EU. The EU operates democratically. The EU enacted policies that were detrimental to UK interests. It's hard for me to follow. Help?

[derpcake]

2. Well, I don't have the luxury of owning a vehicle or a driver. Help me out if you would though. The UK represents a minority group within the EU. The EU operates democratically. The EU enacted policies that were detrimental to UK interests. It's hard for me to follow. Help?

If the UK is going to benefit so much, why is there not a single politician willing to take the lead in Brexit?

Guys would be making history for "saving the nation", right?

You keep claiming the EU is detrimental for the UK, so why don't they just enact article nr. 50, and get their Ruler of the Waves thing going again?

Because that was all bullshit due to political motives. Unfortunately it stuck better then anyone hoped.

Perhaps you can lead the negotiations with the EU, and bring them to a beneficial result?

Farage doesn't feel up to the task, nor did Cameron or Johnson, but they a humble bunch, you could do it I am sure.

[maskedmelon]

You are not very helpful.

[derpcake]

Sorry I'm not going to help you believe silly things.

If Brexit is so great, why is noone willing to organise it?

Because it ain't great, not even close to a break-even.

Of course you are free to believe what you want, I had no illusions about changing your mind.

gl hf, aquire a vehicle, it makes life more fun!

[derpcake]

Can you get Raev in on the SoRP pls?

Needs a commanding position, he is a natural.

[Raev]

Can you get Raev in on the SoRP pls?

Needs a commanding position, he is a natural.

Typical 'i have no facts, so I will resort to ad hominem' response. I accept your graceful surrender, sir.

[derpcake]

Typical 'i have no facts, so I will resort to ad hominem' response. I accept your graceful surrender, sir.

You seem to have skipped the post below.

Enjoy.

At the moment, it's not possible to directly buy things with gold. Most people don't think of gold and diamonds and fine art and such as money.

In the future, they will simply confiscate the gold.

Why would they outlaw 500€ bills, when they can just confiscate what they want?

Makes zero sense, and I'm trying here.

And who is "they"?

The governement you democratically elect?

[maskedmelon]

A democratically elected government can't behave contrary to the interests of the people lol.

[derpcake]

so who is "they"?

illuminati?

[Raev]

You seem to have skipped the post below. Enjoy.

They are effectively confiscating the 500E bills, and yes 'they' refers to the government.

[derpcake]

Do you know what the word confiscation means?

They are not confiscating 500€ bills.

[Raev]

That is why I said 'effectively', you nut. The are effectively confiscating them by not printing more; eventually the ones in circulation will wear out and be exchanged for multiple 100E notes.

[derpcake]

They are effectively confiscating the 500E bills, and yes 'they' refers to the government.

I did skip this post, going to quote it in case I need sig material.

[derpcake]

That is why I said 'effectively', you nut. The are effectively confiscating them by not printing more; eventually the ones in circulation will wear out and be exchanged for multiple 100E notes.

You "effectively" do not know what confiscation means.

It's ok.

Just because I'm nice, when things get "confiscated", that means they are being seized without any compensation being offered in exchange.

Confiscating 500€ bills would come down to declaring them all property of the party confiscating them, for free.

This is absolutely not what has happened.

[Jarnauga]

If you give me a 500€ bill and i give you 5 x 100€, i'm confiscating your money

Got it.

On a side note, xenophobic accidents daily in the UK: http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_576fe161e4b08d2c56396075?edition=uk (beware, feminazi website ahead, they probably tagged the polish cultural center themselves)

[derpcake]

Pretty fortunate the poll wasn't "are you ok with your money being confiscated"

Poor Raev would be all out :(

[Raev]

You "effectively" do not know what confiscation means.

It's ok.

Just because I'm nice, when things get "confiscated", that means they are being seized without any compensation being offered in exchange.

Confiscating 500€ bills would come down to declaring them all property of the party confiscating them, for free.

This is absolutely not what has happened.

confiscate: to take (something) away from someone especially as punishment or to enforce the law or rules

Combined with the adverb 'effectively' I feel comfortable with that sentence.

In any event, you are once again failing to raise even the smallest substantiative point. Do you really want to go all Alarti-style?

[derpcake]

Combined with the adverb 'effectively' I feel comfortable with that sentence.

In any event, you are once again failing to raise even the smallest substantiative point. Do you really want to go all Alarti-style?

Don't backpedal

That is why I said 'effectively', you nut. The are effectively confiscating them by not printing more; eventually the ones in circulation will wear out and be exchanged for multiple 100E notes.

you literally state they "are being confiscated and exchanged for .."

hence proving you did not know what confiscation means

effectively

[Raev]

Webster's definition says nothing about compensation <shrug>

edit: Seriously, how can you not read that sentence as a textbook example of Webster's definition? The 500 E notes are effectively being taken away from the populace due to government regulations.

I wonder if there is a word for 'desperately trying to nitpick where no errors exist'. That would describe you perfectly.

[derpcake]

You don't know how to use or interpret a dictionary.

Lets stop here pal.

[maskedmelon]

Derp's excitement with his mildly substantive point is further obfuscating what little cerebral clarity he has. Don't encourage it Raev.

[derpcake]

edit: Seriously, how can you not read that sentence as a textbook example of Webster's definition? The 500 E notes are effectively being taken away from the populace due to government regulations.

I wonder if there is a word for 'desperately trying to nitpick where no errors exist'. That would describe you perfectly.

They are not being "taken away", they are being "exchanged"

I am not nitpicking, these are simple yet entirely different concepts. Infants have an inherent understanding of the difference.

You do know the difference between "having something being taken away", or "seized", and having "something exchanged", right?

When you spend DKP its an exchange. When you get fined 50 DKP, the DKP got confiscated.

[Raev]

You don't know how to use or interpret a dictionary.

Lets stop here pal.

Capitulation, round 2. I'm going to go swimming, so you won't have to worry about me blowing gaping holes in your idiotic opinions for a while.

P.S. They are being taken away because you do not have the option to keep them. Duh.

[derpcake]

You get something of equal value in exchange.

Hence "exchange", not "confiscation".

Again, if they were confiscated, you would get nothing in exchange.

Try websters again, maybe call in an adult..

You seem to think the meaning of a word depends on opinion? Sorry to let you down there.

[derpcake]

If Raev's posting doesn't warrant SoRP honorary status, I have no idea what will.

[Jarnauga]

15 years using euros and i still have yet to see a 500€ bill.

Nobody ever used that shit, stop trying to make a big deal about something that has none, you're making a fool of yourself.

[derpcake]

15 years using euros and i still have yet to see a 500€ bill.

Lucky you, rumor has it they being confiscated.

[maskedmelon]

I have no idea

That much is obvious. If the exchange is compulsory, enacted unilaterally by an authority such as government then it would still qualify as a confiscation. This is so hard : /

[Jarnauga]

all governments are already bankrupt from socialist welfare programs

us debt = 106,93% of GDP
French debt = 97,85% of GDP

Which is actually more than the whole EU debt= 87,4% of GDP.

[maskedmelon]

us debt = 106,93% of GDP
French debt = 97,85% of GDP

Which is actually more than the whole EU debt= 87,4% of GDP.

Which of those are not one of all?

[derpcake]

That much is obvious. If the exchange is compulsory, enacted unilaterally by an authority such as government then it would still qualify as a confiscation. This is so hard : /

no it is not, when equal compensation is offered it is called exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confiscation

feel free to post a source which mentions that an exchange of equal value goods is defined as confiscation

gl

[maskedmelon]

no it is not, when equal compensation is offered it is called exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confiscation

feel free to post a source which mentions that an exchange of equal value goods is defined as confiscation

gl

I don't need to. The definition of confiscate includes "to seize by authority." It does not preclude compensation. These sorts of subtle differences are important to logic.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/confiscate?s=t

The funny thing is, you don't even understand what part of your argument was valid lol.

[derpcake]

I don't need to. The definition of confiscate includes "to seize by authority." It does not preclude compensation. These sorts of subtle differences are important to logic.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/confiscate?s=t

The funny thing is, you don't even understand what part of your argument was valid lol.

I'm sorry, I don't see any of those definitions including the mention of compensation being offered, quite the contrary.

verb (used with object), confiscated, confiscating.
1.
to seize as forfeited to the public domain; appropriate, by way of penalty, for public use.
2.
to seize by or as if by authority; appropriate summarily:
The border guards confiscated our movie cameras.

1. includes "as forfeited", which seems to indicate .. no compensation

2. do you think the border guards offered compensation for the cameras? do you think "seizing by authority", is an indication of compensation being offered?

hilarious

[maskedmelon]

I'm sorry, I don't see any of those definitions including the mention of compensation being offered, quite the contrary.

verb (used with object), confiscated, confiscating.
1.
to seize as forfeited to the public domain; appropriate, by way of penalty, for public use.
2.
to seize by or as if by authority; appropriate summarily:
The border guards confiscated our movie cameras.

1. includes "as forfeited", which seems to indicate .. no compensation

2. do you think the border guards offered compensation for the cameras? do you think "seizing by authority", is an indication of compensation being offered?

hilarious

This is my point. The definitions don't preclude compensation whether they are ordinarily used to mean that or not. If you insist that confiscate must necessarily occur without compensation, then please share a source otherwise you are wrong... again.

[derpcake]

I used the definitions you linked and both of them preclude compensation as much as a definition can.

You are twisting the burden of proof and doing a poor job at it.

You might as well ask me to provide proof that confiscation doesn't involve clowns. It doesn't btw, unfortunately there won't be any source detailing it, as its nonsense.

[maskedmelon]

Good game.

*shakes Derpcake's hand*

[derpcake]

Thanks, I appreciate a man that knows when to back out.

[big_ole_jpn]

Thanks, I appreciate a man that knows when to back out.

ya - after he ejaculates

[derpcake]

Pm Maerelith or something.

I am not into that, but am sure you'll find some that are.

Best of luck.

[AzzarTheGod]

yo im here. just letting everyone know I don't yet possess the attention span to read any posts yet. I just woke up and the ADD meds haven't entered my bloodstream yet.

tried reading the Dos the Left Hate Pride thread and felt very irritated. a known symptom of ADD.

[big_ole_jpn]

yo im here. just letting everyone know I don't yet possess the attention span to read any posts yet. I just woke up and the ADD meds haven't entered my bloodstream yet.

tried reading the Dos the Left Hate Pride thread and felt very irritated. a known symptom of ADD.

just try the last page - much more digestable.