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Arkaan
06-12-2016, 09:55 PM
I believe this is bugged.

While it is difficult to provide any specific info without knowing specifically what the spawn mechanics are, given all of the conflicting info on the matter, I will provide some statistics.

In the past 8 days I have spent over 30 hours looking for the AC and have not seen it once. I haven't seen his corpse, nor any broadcasts about FTE or sightings.
I have spoken to several people with similar results. One had been camping it for over a month (with tracking abilities) and hasn't seen it not one time.

Looking over the bugs resolved issues forum, I see the SRO AC was updated in 2013.

In 2014 I camped and killed the AC about 15 times. Occasionally I saw it twice in a 24 hour RL time period. Sometimes I didnt see it for 2 days, but that was about the max. This was similar to my recollection of live as well.

According to the wiki, the AC was updated again in 2014, but the patch notes at that time only mention that the DE's will aggro it.

So unfortunately, I don't have any real facts beyond this one:

The SRO AC is significantly more rare than it should be.

Would someone please at least take a look at it?

Zkoch01
06-12-2016, 10:33 PM
I agree with OP, I've been camping the AC on red for the past 3 weeks and haven't seen a thing.

xKoopa
06-13-2016, 08:55 AM
He spawns at 9pm gametime only.. its just a chance that he spawns

Youll see druids porting in around 9pm usually as theyre looking to snipe a ring to sell

Arkaan
06-13-2016, 03:05 PM
He spawns at 9pm gametime only.. its just a chance that he spawns

Youll see druids porting in around 9pm usually as theyre looking to snipe a ring to sell

If that's the case, then it is still broken.

nilbog
06-13-2016, 04:41 PM
I see one aggroed as of today.

Not broken.

Qtip
06-13-2016, 05:50 PM
He spawns at 9pm gametime only.. its just a chance that he spawns

Youll see druids porting in around 9pm usually as theyre looking to snipe a ring to sell

Doesnt only spawn at 9pm. Ive seen from 8pm til 6am if you're clearing all Phs. Ive found 6 phs and they roam the same direction every single time, just a different name(a mummy, a madman and so on).

Arkaan
06-13-2016, 08:30 PM
I see one aggroed as of today.

Not broken.

OK. Thanks for looking at it. I guess I have just been horribly unlucky!

fash
06-13-2016, 09:03 PM
OK. Thanks for looking at it. I guess I have just been horribly unlucky!

I've seen the ancient cyclops twice in the last couple weeks while passing through. Stop looking, you'll find it. :)

Doctor Jeff
06-13-2016, 09:12 PM
I think the skeletal warlord in KC is bugged because I don't have 10 tstaffs after one day of farming pls hlp.

Arkaan
06-13-2016, 10:47 PM
I think the skeletal warlord in KC is bugged because I don't have 10 tstaffs after one day of farming pls hlp.

Lol this guy sounds like a turd. I bet you play on red, no? level 15 monk with fungi etc but no one to attack. Now you resort to forum attacks and hate life..lol amirite?

Anyway, so they want a custom encounter, I can deal with that. I just figured they wanted to make make the encounters classic-like. But hey, free is free, I aint complainin =)

Qtip
06-13-2016, 11:23 PM
Lol this guy sounds like a turd. I bet you play on red, no? level 15 monk with fungi etc but no one to attack. Now you resort to forum attacks and hate life..lol amirite?

Anyway, so they want a custom encounter, I can deal with that. I just figured they wanted to make make the encounters classic-like. But hey, free is free, I aint complainin =)

What isnt classic? What proof have you provided in this thread? Links from 1999-2001? Anything?

Technique
06-13-2016, 11:24 PM
Lol this guy sounds like a turd. I bet you play on red, no? level 15 monk with fungi etc but no one to attack. Now you resort to forum attacks and hate life..lol amirite?

Anyway, so they want a custom encounter, I can deal with that. I just figured they wanted to make make the encounters classic-like. But hey, free is free, I aint complainin =)You sound like a retard who doesn't understand how probability or RNG works and uses that ignorance as the basis for a claim that the AC is "custom" despite the fact that the same bug thread you mentioned (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1202300) details nilbog's progress toward make it more classic.

Arkaan
06-14-2016, 11:11 AM
You sound like a retard who doesn't understand how probability or RNG works and uses that ignorance as the basis for a claim that the AC is "custom" despite the fact that the same bug thread you mentioned (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1202300) details nilbog's progress toward make it more classic.

Then tell me, what happened to the PH's? What happened to 9PM to 7AM? Yes, good changes were done in 2013, and I personally was able to see everything was working great in 2014, as I stated. Now all of a sudden it spawns only at 9PM with a crazy low chance?

When did those changes take place, and where are the patch notes?

Nirgon
06-14-2016, 11:12 AM
he should be immune to fire too, 100% resist rate on sunstrikes on live in sro

best of luck finding anything confirming that besides me

Arkaan
06-14-2016, 11:46 AM
What isnt classic? What proof have you provided in this thread? Links from 1999-2001? Anything?

Like I said, only proof I really have is my own attempts at getting the AC to spawn. There are plenty of posts out there showing the AC should spawn between 9PM and 7AM. At least that much doesn't seem to be happening anymore, killing the PHs seem to do nothing, and I have yet to see it spawn outside of 9PM recently.

I saw it spawn yesterday for the first time since 2014. It was like they are saying. It was at 9PM, a bunch of people ported in and looked around and then left at 10PM.

I've ran around between 9PM and 7AM killing PH's over and over and it is obvious that killing the PHs aren't helping anymore. Every day it becomes more and more obvious to me that it will only spawn at 9PM regardless of killing the PHs, with a very low chance.

The bottom line is, the whole mechanic seems different than it used to be to me, that was the point of the bug report. But if Nilbog says it's good, it's good.

xKoopa
06-14-2016, 12:30 PM
Like I said, only proof I really have is my own attempts at getting the AC to spawn. There are plenty of posts out there showing the AC should spawn between 9PM and 7AM. At least that much doesn't seem to be happening anymore, killing the PHs seem to do nothing, and I have yet to see it spawn outside of 9PM recently.

I saw it spawn yesterday for the first time since 2014. It was like they are saying. It was at 9PM, a bunch of people ported in and looked around and then left at 10PM.

I've ran around between 9PM and 7AM killing PH's over and over and it is obvious that killing the PHs aren't helping anymore. Every day it becomes more and more obvious to me that it will only spawn at 9PM regardless of killing the PHs, with a very low chance.

The bottom line is, the whole mechanic seems different than it used to be to me, that was the point of the bug report. But if Nilbog says it's good, it's good.

This is how it works. Even wiki states that what is listed isnt accurate. 9pm spawn or he doesnt spawn, no placeholders

nilbog
06-14-2016, 01:48 PM
What is going on in this thread?

Script last modified 11/29/2013.

In this thread, it was noted that the respawn time of a ph should be 1830 seconds https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1203878&postcount=23. That being said, each EQ hour is 3 minutes. So that's 10 hours between pops, meaning only 1 AC would be possible, per night. 1440 minutes in a real life day, 72 minutes in an EQ day, you should have 20 chances per RL day of a spawn.

One thing I think is not working from live's night/day mechanics is that once day arrives here, all night spawns depop. On live, certain ones would stay spawned if they were currently up. At least I think that's how it originally worked.

xKoopa
06-14-2016, 01:50 PM
What is going on in this thread?

Script last modified 11/29/2013.

I think RNG happened kappa

Arkaan
06-14-2016, 02:18 PM
What is going on in this thread?

Script last modified 11/29/2013.

In this thread, it was noted that the respawn time of a ph should be 1830 seconds https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1203878&postcount=23. That being said, each EQ hour is 3 minutes. So that's 10 hours between pops, meaning only 1 AC would be possible, per night. 1440 minutes in a real life day, 72 minutes in an EQ day, you should have 20 chances per RL day of a spawn.

One thing I think is not working from live's night/day mechanics is that once day arrives here, all night spawns depop. On live, certain ones would stay spawned if they were currently up. At least I think that's how it originally worked.

What I and others have been able to gather, like xKoopa said, is that the AC is spawning ONLY at 9PM, and with a pretty low % chance to pop. Killing PHs or killing almost the whole zone doesn't seem to make any difference at all.

All in all it has made the whole availability of the AC significantly less than it used to be.

cdawgz28
06-14-2016, 02:54 PM
Kill the PH in the day not at night.... Try killing the male barb derv at 3pm then check at 1am

Arkaan
06-14-2016, 03:09 PM
Kill the PH in the day not at night.... Try killing the male barb derv at 3pm then check at 1am

Yup, tried that. Spent all week last week staying in SRO 24/7

Tried killing PHs in the morning, evening, 10pm ish, 5am ish. Nothing worked. Worst luck I had up until this point was 2 days with no sightings. Killing the PHs do nothing.

Jimjam
06-14-2016, 03:54 PM
My hours! The PHers! They do nothing!!!

Kieu
06-14-2016, 10:53 PM
Welcome to Everquet, where you don't get what you want by bitching.

Zkoch01
06-15-2016, 02:08 AM
I was finally able to get him tonight on red.

Arkaan
06-19-2016, 08:29 PM
Been spending more time in SRO and was able to confirm that the AC indeed will only spawn at 9PM, and the spawn rate is about 5%.

A big change from 2001, when people were reporting it being a triggered spawn with some reports of back to back sightings.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010619232636/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=3452

So, apparently it's not just a matter of bad luck or not getting it on the first few tries... It really is messed up.

If you don't believe me, go see for yourself...

Crom
06-20-2016, 09:52 AM
if you are unlucky he will spawn near the De's they kill him in no time :( so unless you are sitting near the De's when he spawns you might miss him.

Maelorn
07-25-2016, 11:37 AM
Been spending more time in SRO and was able to confirm that the AC indeed will only spawn at 9PM, and the spawn rate is about 5%.

A big change from 2001, when people were reporting it being a triggered spawn with some reports of back to back sightings.

Myth Busted. Got him at approx 10 or 11 on a fresh pop.

xKoopa
07-25-2016, 11:45 AM
Myth Busted. Got him at approx 10 or 11 on a fresh pop.

Did he spawn at 10 or 11 or is that when you saw him?

Its pretty well known that 9pm is when he spawns by anyone whos camped it multiple times

countytime
09-19-2016, 04:02 AM
It's definitely not the way it was. I've seen the barbarian male three times now after clearing PHs, and he a) did not originate at the known spawn point, and b) did not seem to be on the same 30.5 minute timer either, because one time he showed up early. This is probably old news to anyone trying to get jboots I guess. (Last time I did it was probably in 2013, when it was still the old way.)

It's disappointing though because I used to be able to get my jboots fairly reliably if I put the time in and kept the spawns timed. And I wouldn't have to worry about a level 60 KSing me because only I knew the exact timer, once I'd put in the effort to get it timed in the first place. The current situation seems to just be a clusterfuck of people running around the desert at night. Why was it changed from the way it was on live?