Another mass shooting, biggest death toll in US History

[Trollhide]

the mistake was intentional
awww shit you right, I got all horned up at the opportunity to administer an owning and didn't even realize.

guess its a mute point now

[maskedmelon]

awww shit you right, I got all horned up at the opportunity to administer an owning and didn't even realize.

guess its a mute point now

Don't worry, the affect on the discussion was negligible.

[Daywolf]

video in the club during the shooting https://youtu.be/tN_x1HUaYPQ

[sOurDieSel]

God damnit Bran not again

http://i.imgur.com/IrNtRkf.jpg

rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWH8QGgixfI

[Blitzers]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=720_1465819623

Take a listen to that video. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Why are they not charging this fucking asshole RIGHT NOW?

I recognize that fucker, he's the Ogre in NFP always blocking the door to the Bank. What a PoS.

[Blitzers]

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WTB WEEKEND QUAKE...

Jedi mind trick...

/wave

[Ahldagor]

I agree, it is a jungle. For all intensive purposes we live in a PvP environment. Would you run around red99, unarmed? Only here though, we have a perma-death system, in which there are lasting consequences to wanting to be an aggressor. Still, there are plenty of victims, but often the case they allow themselves to be the victims by choosing to enter gun free zones and being an easy target.

Only bars I've gone to are cowboy bars. What nutjob is going to try to gun down a bunch of gun loving cowboys like this? Nah, they go after liberal soft targets, where their actions will likely not be challenged, and may even make it out alive, themselves.

You are some special kind of moron to miss that joke. Chill out or kill your self from paranoia.

[DMN]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=720_1465819623

Take a listen to that video. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Why are they not charging this fucking asshole RIGHT NOW?

For some reason that idiot reminded me of this other idiot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ocX3-XIDNY

[Xaanka]

lol this guy's wife was driving him to gay bars to suck dicks on the reg and his first target was a disney family nightclub but libtards all over the internet are still trying to claim this was a spontaneous act of homophobia that had nothing to do with islam.

[AzzarTheGod]

He pulled a knife on some gays at Pulse after they mocked his religion and he said if they did it again they know what to expect (death)

They claimed to be his friends for the past 3 years at Pulse.

Sounds like they got catty and gay with the wrong guy?? BIG culture clash. Gays were disrespectful to someone and incited violence? Say it ain't so!

[Xaanka]

He pulled a knife on some gays at Pulse after they mocked his religion and he said if they did it again they know what to expect (death)

They claimed to be his friends for the past 3 years at Pulse.

Sounds like they got catty and gay with the wrong guy?? BIG culture clash. Gays were disrespectful to someone and incited violence? Say it ain't so!

he called 911 during the attack to pledge allegiance to ISIL and the boston marathon bomber :confused: and his primary target had nothing to do with homosexuals :confused:

[Jarnauga]

You could say that what he did was pretty gay

[Blitzers]

But somehow, someway, they will blame White Christian Males...

Definitely a case of "White Privilege"

[AzzarTheGod]

he called 911 during the attack to pledge allegiance to ISIL and the boston marathon bomber :confused: and his primary target had nothing to do with homosexuals :confused:

Legit lolling @ how thirsty the FBI and leftist media is to spin this into fitting their narrative...

And how miserable it's failing.

He was directly called out on his religion at Pulse earlier this year by his "friends" for the past 3 years there, threatened lethal force to their faces if they did it again,









but yeah no radical Islam here. Fucking Suckerberg and Suckerberg Junior (i dubbed reddit this, it's suckerberg w/out the money and commercial success) are making damn fool's out of their companies.

The FBI may be able to intimidate a few people into silence. But the gay hive will buzz on regardless, one of the things I like about the gay community is they can't keep a secret.

Thanks LGBT bros for solving this one.

[Blitzers]

Legit lolling @ how thirsty the FBI and leftist media is to spin this into fitting their narrative...

And how miserable it's failing.

He was directly called out on his religion at Pulse earlier this year by his "friends" for the past 3 years there, threatened lethal force to their faces if they did it again,









but yeah no radical Islam here. Fucking Suckerberg and Suckerberg Junior (i dubbed reddit this, it's suckerberg w/out the money and commercial success) are making damn fool's out of their companies.

It's not Radical, it's devout or CisMuslim.

[Tradesonred]

Its the worse mass shooting, if you disregard the ones white people have done

[Xaanka]

But somehow, someway, they will blame White Christian Males...

Definitely a case of "White Privilege"

literally argued with a libtard today who was unironically trying to blame this on white cis males and christians marginalizing homosexuals

[Xaanka]

Its the worse mass shooting, if you disregard the ones white people have done

you mean the ones with lower death tolls?

[Nihilist_santa]

literally argued with a libtard today who was unironically trying to blame this on white cis males and christians marginalizing homosexuals

Surprised he was able to talk at all.

http://i.imgur.com/FAQP87J.jpg

[Ket]

Surprised he was able to talk at all.

http://i.imgur.com/FAQP87J.jpg

Liberal pussy here - but that right there is hilarious.

[Daywolf]

You are some special kind of moron to miss that joke. Chill out or kill your self from paranoia.
That's some pretty deep liberal utopian denial you got going on there, A-hl.

[AzzarTheGod]

literally argued with a libtard today who was unironically trying to blame this on white cis males and christians marginalizing homosexuals

The facts speak for themselves, even the LGBT community at Pulse who knew this Marteen guy will tell he was defensive about his religion and threatened to kill anyone who disrespected his religion again.

Tell the libtard to be more respectful of LGBT opinions, especially the wounded friends who hung out with Marteen personally at the club...he is outright dismissing the wounded gay victims who are speaking out and telling the real story.

What a culture vulture your friend is, only picking the parts he likes or the parts that he can sell to make himself feel better?? Weirdos.

[Swish]

Turns out the shooter was a regular of the bar, and gay (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ac8_1465916679)....

[Daywolf]

Turns out the shooter was a regular of the bar, and gay (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ac8_1465916679)....
Yep, we've been throwing that around in here a few pages, trying to make sense of it.
1. gay
2. muslim
3. two pilgrimiges to the middle-east
4. pulled a knife on someone that joked about Islam
5. angry muslim father
6. beat his wife
7. investigated by FBI for a year
8. his mosque investigated, but dropped/blocked by Hillary
9. security guy, largest company and with government contracts
10. His wife knew about the planned attack weeks ahead of time
11. FBI telling ex-wife not to mention he's gay to US media

And this all makes me even call more BS on the sob story by the guy holding the door closed. imo more to come..

[Nihilist_santa]

Yep, we've been throwing that around in here a few pages, trying to make sense of it.
1. gay
2. muslim
3. two pilgrimiges to the middle-east
4. pulled a knife on someone that joked about Islam
5. angry muslim father
6. beat his wife
7. investigated by FBI for a year
8. his mosque investigated, but dropped/blocked by Hillary
9. security guy, largest company and with government contracts
10. His wife knew about the planned attack weeks ahead of time
11. FBI telling ex-wife not to mention he's gay to US media

And this all makes me even call more BS on the sob story by the guy holding the door closed. imo more to come..

In one witness account from inside the bathroom with Omar the witness stated Omar had asked someone if they were black and saying he was cool with blacks. The LA Times and other outlets are claiming he was racist towards blacks and used slurs about them. Then to top it off other outlets are reporting that the FBI called off its investigation because they thought his co-workers who reported him were being racist. Definitely something strange going on with the narrative.

Seems race keeps popping up. They are trying to import hordes then cause a race war. All this talk of unity and shit is just to keep people running around long enough until its too late. The hordes are not well read intellectuals and dont care about your ideas they just want your stuff. Unity is a fairy tale and whoever is running the show knows people will spend more time trying to unify opposing forces than mounting an effective defense.

[Daywolf]

In one witness account from inside the bathroom with Omar the witness stated Omar had asked someone if they were black and saying he was cool with blacks. The LA Times and other outlets are claiming he was racist towards blacks and used slurs about them. Then to top it off other outlets are reporting that the FBI called off its investigation because they thought his co-workers who reported him were being racist. Definitely something strange going on with the narrative.

Seems race keeps popping up. They are trying to import hordes then cause a race war. All this talk of unity and shit is just to keep people running around long enough until its too late. The hordes are not well read intellectuals and dont care about your ideas they just want your stuff. Unity is a fairy tale and whoever is running the show knows people will spend more time trying to unify opposing forces than mounting an effective defense.Hmmm... I hadn't heard that yet, but yes may fit the MO, another point for an investigative profile list. Also, somehow I left out he's a Democrat. You know if he had been a republican or related, a conservative rather than a liberal, we would see no end to it being flamed everywhere in every way.

[Nihilist_santa]

Hmmm... I hadn't heard that yet, but yes may fit the MO, another point for an investigative profile list. Also, somehow I left out he's a Democrat. You know if he had been a republican or related, a conservative rather than a liberal, we would see no end to it being flamed everywhere in every way.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/us/orlando-shooting-as-it-happened/index.html

"Mateen asked if there were African-Americans in the stall. One man said there were six or seven.
"I don't have a problem with black people," Mateen said, according to Carter. "This is about my country. You guys have suffered enough.""

Video included

[Nihilist_santa]

But then we have NBC running this.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/terror-hate-what-motivated-orlando-nightclub-shooter-n590496

Mateen "always referred to every other race, religion, gender in a derogatory way," Gilroy added. "He did not like black people at all. That was mentioned once or twice, but more so was women. He did not like women at all. He did like women in a sexual way, but he did not respect them."

[Nihilist_santa]

Then you have the Daily Caller (take it for what it is but its quoting the FBI directly) on the FBI investigation ending .

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/13/fbi-called-off-investigation-of-orlando-shooter-because-they-thought-his-coworkers-were-racist/

[AzzarTheGod]

Good posts Santa. Just a reminder not to move off of mainstream establishment reporting.

Also initially heard there was no AR-15 used, and it was a glock handgun with a few extendo clips.

[Daywolf]

But then we have NBC running this.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/terror-hate-what-motivated-orlando-nightclub-shooter-n590496

Mateen "always referred to every other race, religion, gender in a derogatory way," Gilroy added. "He did not like black people at all. That was mentioned once or twice, but more so was women. He did not like women at all. He did like women in a sexual way, but he did not respect them."
Or spinning this. But yep.

[Xaanka]

some more published witness accounts, yep this shooting definitely had nothing to do with Islam

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/06/14/fbi-director-orlando-shooting-probe-also-looks-backward-into-agency-files-on-shooter/?utm_term=.7545b0e16d68

[Blitzers]

Good posts Santa. Just a reminder not to move off of mainstream establishment reporting.

Also initially heard there was no AR-15 used, and it was a glock handgun with a few extendo clips.

It was a Sig MCX shoots the same round 5.56

[Daywolf]

Good posts Santa. Just a reminder not to move off of mainstream establishment reporting.You mean when they report on things. Such as the guy holding the doors closed, that was alternative media, ABC cut and buried it. Or that this guy was gay? That didn't break with US media, in fact FBI warned her not to say anything. But I take it you mean in addition to, as that would be the healthy approach. Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Historical Low (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185927/americans-trust-media-remains-historical-low.aspx)
Of course then there are some that only get news from sites like FB and Reddit... lol?
I do though, even post sources from all types of sites, excluding social media stuff which I don't bother with.

[Daywolf]

It was a Sig MCX shoots the same round 5.56
I was hearing it was a handgun somewhere too.
Or he just had one with him. He bought a 9mm glock too.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/authorities-identify-rifle-used-in-orlando-shooting-as-sig-sauer-semiautomatic-1465949248
You can see the rounds of the .223/5.56 punch through the walls. 9mm won't do that.

[Xaanka]

only get news from sites like FB and Reddit

Unironically, this is most people born after like 1990

[Pokesan]

speaking of reddit, the idiot mods deleted mention of the shooters religion in many popular subs

the result was 11,000 new followers on the donald trump sub

good game

[Xaanka]

Blood's quite literally on Hillary's hands with this one as she was responsible for ending the FBI investigation of Omar's mosque deeming those who reported their activities as "racists"

[Daywolf]

speaking of reddit, the idiot mods deleted mention of the shooters religion in many popular subs

the result was 11,000 new followers on the donald trump sub

good game
Yeah I heard about that last night. also FB had a big active community deleted (http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/12/facebook-deletes-pamela-gellers-stop-islamization-america-page-orlando-attack/), 50,000 members. Reddit isn't just deleting post, they are swinging the ban hammer to even mentioning he was a muslim, look but not comment in news section bans.

[Pokesan]

the deadliest mass shooting in US history and the american left is falling all over themselves to worry about 'hate speech'

people were murdered you stupid motherfuckers

[Daywolf]

I'm really only worried about radicalized muslims, just to be clear. Islam could really do with a reformation just as much as the catholic church underwent. You know the catholic church even almost went to war against the orthodox church at the gates of constantinople. They reformed. I just wouldn't like to see them go hard left much like the pope is doing now. But as for the Don, he is not going to kick out all muslims, that's absurd. Most recognize that some are trying to deliver a reformtion message out to the world. He just doesn't want open globalist borders, much like the majority of peeps in this country.

[sOurDieSel]

Him being a gay muslim isn't that much of a stretch. Lots of muslims over in the middle east like to ficki ficki young boys. It has even become an epidemic on military bases over there.

[AzzarTheGod]

PAX AMERICANA

pras

[Xaanka]

I'm really only worried about radicalized muslims, just to be clear. Islam could really do with a reformation just as much as the catholic church underwent. You know the catholic church even almost went to war against the orthodox church at the gates of constantinople. They reformed. I just wouldn't like to see them go hard left much like the pope is doing now. But as for the Don, he is not going to kick out all muslims, that's absurd. Most recognize that some are trying to deliver a reformtion message out to the world. He just doesn't want open globalist borders, much like the majority of peeps in this country.

oh hey it's the radical islam myth again, a fairy tale that doesn't exist because they are all either literally insane or have little understanding of their own religion!

http://i.imgur.com/EqDM9XV.png
http://i.imgur.com/UQtg2lS.png
http://i.imgur.com/9P02rYt.png
http://i.imgur.com/FNhalDR.png

[Xaanka]

to be fair i've met a few "moderate" islamic followers, they're typically very ignorant of what their own religion stands for and understand less about their own religion and the qu'ran than me, a 26 year old white american who struggles with arabic because they haven't even bothered to read it.

[AzzarTheGod]

to be fair i've met a few "moderate" islamic followers, they're typically very ignorant of what their own religion stands for and understand less about their own religion and the qu'ran than me, a 26 year old white american who struggles with arabic because they haven't even bothered to read it.

This is exactly how the bible was used to abuse uneducated people during the Crusades. This time capsule is nothing short of amazing.

They are 400-600 years behind. Cringing at the lack of civilization.

Britain spent so much time helping civilize savages all over the world (Including India and East Africa, hell, everywhere...) and they somehow overlook the people who need it most, maybe there is a deep reason for that?

Think.

[Daywolf]

oh hey it's the radical islam myth again, a fairy tale that doesn't exist because they are all either literally insane or have little understanding of their own religion!Nah, I already explained that in part, back some pages. You have basically two sections of the quran, where the original version failed and so the more aggressive war and such was tacked on later, which then allowed it all to spread unlike it was doing originally. But also there are external writings that some follow, their tradition books, such as the 72 virgins thing.

Most religions have something like that going. You have literalists, liberals, traditionalists, progressives, and everything in-between. The radical muslims I would say falls under traditionalists, as in traditions they created next to their primary writings.

The middle-east isn't full of unintelligent people, they just have something bad going on holding them back. Used to be a place of advancement, with math, astronomy, engineering. But yeah, not so much any longer besides some decadent interpretations of the West, it's sad.

Anyway, I'm not saying it's a good religion, after all like I said it's really more of a political ideology, but there are reformers trying to correct aspects of it. I don't think they will be successful though, not outside of the West. Not even mentioning Europe, that's a whole other thing happening there compared to the US, where they actually want full-on multi-culturalism, which will fail.

[Xaanka]

But yeah, not so much any longer besides some decadent interpretations of the West, it's sad.

you're forgetting the part where these are built by extorting south-east asians into slave labor

[Daywolf]

you're forgetting the part where these are built by extorting south-east asians into slave labor
Well that's modern times, I was comparing to the old empires, do some general historical research there, as you probably once did. But yeah, for a long time now it's mostly been about exploitation rather than progress. Even our first war of the US (post-revolution), you know who we fought, right? And why? Yep.

And now thanks to our modern advances (much of it by US innovation as a result of liberty) we're at it again. Such an invasion (physical and ideological) just 100 years ago would be impossible. And the technology for the few to rule the many has enslaved them quite well. Not all muslims in those regions want to be muslims, and some do chose death. Fortunately in the West we are not faced with those decisions, yet.

And we are good at exploitation as well, or our governments and our corporatism. Not speaking of corporations which can be a good thing, but the mega-corps set to rule the world at all costs and own many politicians. So we war for or buy oil, manipulate it, not that we need it, we can have our own here, but it's a good control mechanism for the globalists that want only a one world system with no borders under their technocracy etc. A world gone mad. Lots of insanity to go around..

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btw there was another shooting yesterday. Lead story "it's not terrorism" (Mohammad Moghaddam). Isn't that how this one started?

[Nihilist_santa]

25 wounded in mass shooting at German theater during a showing of a kids film (Angry Birds). https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/armed-man-opens-fire-at-german-cinema-kinopolis-viernheim

Any bets on whether this was done by an ambassador of the religion of peace?

Haha "According to German press agency dpa, German security services currently believe the gunman to be a “confused individual” rather than a terrorist." seriously they have the most cucked govt.