PSA : Red awaits !

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

Stop playing elf dress up you pixel hoarders


Your guild kills AoW?


Rumor has it you cant even beat a red guild that cant kill Dain

[radda]

We're gonna be here awhile. I think it be swell if the community devoted a month to red fun. Vulak will be there.

[Brut]

I want classic era red back.

[Jauna]

make pvp consensual and red99 might be playable

just saying

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

make pvp consensual and red99 might be playable

just saying



you mean like no means no ?

with safe spaces all over Norrath?

and Zone wide Trigger warnings if in range Players enter it?






its not called duel99 for a reason...

[Jauna]

Sounds insulting and all, kinda takes the edge off of your post when most of the pvp happens on the forums

[Jaxon]

It's too bad Rogean didn't follow through on transferring all you red players to blue when Rampage killed Tunare.

Actually on second though maybe it's better he didn't. Being forced to stay on red is a much crueler fate.

How's Tunare coming for you guys BTW? Making any progress?

[Jauna]

Anyways, thats the reason why red99 has a poor population, this game was not designed for pvp because few people like randomly dying in a camp, getting corpse camped, getting sniped during a long travel or having to pay off bodyguards to port as a wiz/druid and global OOC.

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

not made for pvp?


compare this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o

with your average boring blue Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

[Cecily]

Wait till teams comes out and stop recruiting people to waste time on a dead, failed server. Thank you.

[Pokesan]

Wait till teams comes out and stop recruiting people to waste time on a dead, failed server. Thank you.

http://i.imgur.com/CbHQc9e.gif

[Jauna]

not made for pvp?
compare this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o
with your average boring blue Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

Oh I see, most normal people got bored of getting ganked and left your server and you have no one to play with anymore because you couldnt play nice.

Blue servers were more popular back then
Blue server is more popular now
Red being dead is classic as fuck

[dysanfel]

I miss the days of the server wide announcements like "Coke has defeated Pepsi in a duel to the death", some of them were real funny.

[Sage Truthbearer]

compare this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o
with your average boring blue Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

Translation:

"Some people enjoy their EQ hobby differently than the way I like to enjoy my EQ hobby.

I better make a thread about how much this bothers me."

[Tecmos Deception]

Anyways, thats the reason why red99 has a poor population, this game was not designed for pvp because few people like randomly dying in a camp, getting corpse camped, getting sniped during a long travel or having to pay off bodyguards to port as a wiz/druid and global OOC.

EQ PVP is pretty great really. It's VERY similar to EQ PVE in the way it requires preparation and friends and execution and punishes failure. The problem with red isn't that "EQ wasn't designed for PVP" or even the people who play on red. The problem with red is that it has basically never had the population needed for the server to thrive, except maybe back in classic when the world was so much smaller.

[clacbec]

sadly i must say eq red is the only real eq AS it was designed

i get much fun with my babes toons on there

[Trungep99]

Except for the fact that red sucks without teams : P

[Tune]

Wait till teams comes out and stop recruiting people to waste time on a dead, failed server. Thank you.

we have a lot of old tmo pals in here

u should suit up and try us out

ull have a great time and wont even look at the forums anymore =)

[Colgate]

when i think of a "great time" i don't think about raiding 7 days a week without killing a majority of the content uncontested on a server with fewer than 100 peak primetime players

call me crazy i guess

[Jauna]

teams this
teams that
teams will save pvp
until one team becomes the dominant side
Didnt dark elves rule a server at some point or another?

[Tune]

when i think of a "great time" i don't think about raiding 7 days a week without killing a majority of the content uncontested on a server with fewer than 100 peak primetime players

call me crazy i guess

lol he gracefully changes his language now

even if we did raid 7 days a week how is that even an insult? it means we care about our members to catch them up doing both old and new content

u dont have to come to every raid the bulk of the dkp is given for progression mobs

sounds like u are butthurt we are a real guild and not some inner sanctum clicky bullshit aim chat

ur done here kid

[Colgate]

"clicky" "upsessed" "inner sanctum"

did you graduate high school, tune?

[clacbec]

anyone reading this RED is all about you build it, if you get balls after Rolling xxlv60 on blue just try it

[EQBallzz]

I'm new to p99 but I have to say I'm rather enjoying the never ending parade of "try red" threads and comments. In games like BDO when PvE focused players complained about the griefing or other PvP antics the response from PvP players was swift and harsh and usually amounted to something like, "if you don't like PvP don't play a PvP game idiot" or just "GTFO" but all the while knowing many would stay so long as there was so much PvE content to do.

When people requested a PvE focused server (consensual PvP only) they were ridiculed (even though everyone knows the real reason they were against it is the mass exodus of players from forced PvP servers). It's refreshing to see PvP players so openly and quite pitifully begging PvE players to come play with them. I imagine the same thing would happen with BDO if they created a couple PvE focused servers that only allowed PvP between guilds at war.

[Cecily]

we have a lot of old tmo pals in here

u should suit up and try us out

ull have a great time and wont even look at the forums anymore =)

That was a nicer response than I deserved. I got to 58 as a red tourist, but think I'm done. Jousting isn't fun for me. Knowing what I do now, I should have made an enchanter. Absolutely evil pvp role. Good luck resurrecting server, sincerely.

[heartbrand]

Lol inner sanctum aim guild that invited every single person on server and geared up even the most useless people. Delusional much?

[Nirgon]

wipe fests last as long as the poop socks

confirmed

[Loke]

I really enjoyed leveling on red, but the who facade falls apart the second you actually start interacting with the red player base. Once I hit 54 me and the few guys I duo'd with couldn't go near any popular zone without some epic rogue or t-staff monk harassing us. Ya, it is a pvp server, but a velious geared 60 rog vs a 54 cleric still rocking some bronze is lame for everyone involved. Most people on red aren't looking for pvp, they're looking for easy kills and opportunities to talk shit. It gets old real quick.

[Trungep99]

I really enjoyed leveling on red, but the who facade falls apart the second you actually start interacting with the red player base. Once I hit 54 me and the few guys I duo'd with couldn't go near any popular zone without some epic rogue or t-staff monk harassing us. Ya, it is a pvp server, but a velious geared 60 rog vs a 54 cleric still rocking some bronze is lame for everyone involved. Most people on red aren't looking for pvp, they're looking for easy kills and opportunities to talk shit. It gets old real quick.

while on blue our rogues no longer use their epic because tunare dagger so op

[Lowako]

not made for pvp?


compare this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o

with your average boring blue Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o
I see you auto attacking nerds who arent fighting back. Is there something im missing?

[Cecily]

AFK kills really are the best.

[EQBallzz]

I really enjoyed leveling on red, but the who facade falls apart the second you actually start interacting with the red player base. Once I hit 54 me and the few guys I duo'd with couldn't go near any popular zone without some epic rogue or t-staff monk harassing us. Ya, it is a pvp server, but a velious geared 60 rog vs a 54 cleric still rocking some bronze is lame for everyone involved. Most people on red aren't looking for pvp, they're looking for easy kills and opportunities to talk shit. It gets old real quick.

Isn't that a description of 95% of "PvP" players in all games? In the large majority of my PvP experiences (granted I don't seek this out as I'm not a PvP player) it's always someone ganking or griefing or 3 on 1 or a huge zerg force attacking a small group etc..Ironically, one of the exceptions to this (in my experience) was in WoW doing Arena and Battlegrounds. At least there you get relatively "equal" teams (with the obvious huge exceptions of gear and skill and coms).

[Axlrose]

As of 11:45 a.m. Central time:

Project 1999 PVP Red Server has 73 people potentially slaughtering each other.

Eve Online has 25,701 people backstabbing each other, unless they're ship spinning in station.

Red seems dead to me... *shrugs*

[snergle]

Isn't that a description of 95% of "PvP" players in all games? In the large majority of my PvP experiences (granted I don't seek this out as I'm not a PvP player) it's always someone ganking or griefing or 3 on 1 or a huge zerg force attacking a small group etc..Ironically, one of the exceptions to this (in my experience) was in WoW doing Arena and Battlegrounds. At least there you get relatively "equal" teams (with the obvious huge exceptions of gear and skill and coms).

only in games where pvp was an after thought. In games where pvp is the focus you still find people you will hate but you can just mute them and if its league report them so riot will perma mute them for you.

[Ruhtar]

I see you auto attacking nerds who arent fighting back. Is there something im missing?

I mean, yeah, that's one aspect of it. You could also mention he's a monk with a tstaff and if he was any caster other than a wizard, his PvP adventures would be about as fun as staring at a wall for 16 hours.

[Aesop]

I really enjoyed leveling on red, but the who facade falls apart the second you actually start interacting with the red player base. Once I hit 54 me and the few guys I duo'd with couldn't go near any popular zone without some epic rogue or t-staff monk harassing us. Ya, it is a pvp server, but a velious geared 60 rog vs a 54 cleric still rocking some bronze is lame for everyone involved. Most people on red aren't looking for pvp, they're looking for easy kills and opportunities to talk shit. It gets old real quick.

I agree, it's really a small playerbase who thinks this is Counterstrike: Elven Offensive and rub it in everyone's faces. I think pvp is fun, and has it's place. I enjoy crushing skulls and winning pvp battles. I personally don't find it fun to destroy scrubs in bronze but the only way it's going to change is if they start enforcing the pnp. Do it for a month, ban a bunch of people. Change some of the server dynamics (Seb is basically off limits, no pvp level limit, a 60 rogue who is always raid buffed and has like 6 clickies so you can dispel any of those buffs haunts the place whenever he can't find a puppy to kick. Try and be 52 and level in seb, get one shotted)

In my view yellow text contributes a lot to this, it's positive reinforcement for behavior we don't actually want (griefing, noobslaying) and then you have the added benefit of these same sociopaths having access to a global megaphone -- trust me the benefits of global ooc are outweighed by the negatives.

no matter what we do or how nice we are to people these experiences are the ones that are going to stick with them. You have to make sure they have like 10 nice experience to counter every bad one and that just doesn't happen on this server.

You can beat those guys though. They are easily bored, log out for 10 minutes and they log out once they don't have a puppy to kick. Never engage them in any conversation, just ignore them. Literally /ignore. Learn to coordinate dispels etc but it's asking a lot. Honestly if you wanna come to red you can't be the kind of person who gives up easily.

[Aesop]

oh and plugging. even if you do manage to beat the griefers they run to a zoneline and plug, denying you any satisfaction.

that's a huge mechanic that needs to change.

[Nixtar]

not made for pvp?


compare this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o

with your average boring blue Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

Pro tip: If you wish to sell red on having exp bonus and raid targets being up maybe, just maybe, don't show a bunch of morons waiting to engage in PvP until AFTER those players already having engaged a PVE target.

Otherwise you show Red99 for what it is, which is definitely not what you want in order to get players. Geez, least wait till they're 50+ before griefing them off the server.

[dallow2345]

one day of hearing ooc channel chat convinced me i didnt want to be around any of them. I really dont care who has the bigger pecker, or who is the boss, or who is sleeping with whos mother. lifes to short to waste time there.

[Farzo]

not made for pvp?


compare this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o

with your average boring blue Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

lol about sums it up.

[MammothMafia]

Add single item loot instead of useless plat and ill be in

[myriverse]

not made for pvp?
compare this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o
with your average boring blue Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o
Butter knives aren't made to be weapons, but they can be.

Populations of the servers proves boredom level.

[MammothMafia]

not made for pvp?


compare this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o

with your average boring blue Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

Actually nevermind. watching the player chase around a bard trying to autoattack it just completely unappealing. this looks like the least fun i could ever have playing a video game. how is this fun? #confused