View Full Version : The story of Salaryman
hokuten99
06-04-2016, 09:56 AM
a 3 part series
episode 1 The betrayal of salaryman : https://youtu.be/1uYU1112BUU
episode 2 Salaryman's revenge : https://youtu.be/USlKpAx6KUQ
episode 3 Salaryman's final attempt : https://youtu.be/I6DSCQZ1vCA
I read a few posts saying you are permabanned. Looks like all those rmt'd t-crown's finally caught up to you eh buddy?
silo32
06-04-2016, 09:57 AM
/karma
/thread
Ragnaros
06-04-2016, 10:34 AM
luv jibkenn he inspired me to make a monk
Doctor Jeff
06-04-2016, 10:35 AM
FREE SALARYMAN!
Uuruk
06-04-2016, 11:19 AM
FREE SALARYMAN!
Could you be any more annoying?
Doctor Jeff
06-04-2016, 11:28 AM
HE DID NOTHING WRONG!
Jazzy
06-04-2016, 11:32 AM
Jib hows Zek server these days?
Sirban
06-04-2016, 12:34 PM
Play nice in your sandbox boys
Farzo
06-04-2016, 12:58 PM
No rmt on the server has ever happened esp not by op
(just kidding he got banned for rmt)
Ames1
06-04-2016, 04:59 PM
What kind of freak levels two iksar monks 2 level 60?
hatelore
06-04-2016, 05:15 PM
Good thread.
deadlycupcakez
06-04-2016, 05:21 PM
jib you're kinda like santa clause to me. in my mind you're this picturesque story book hero that brought me to this box taught me to pvp and saved it from nihilum.
but when i think about it realistically you're actually just a psychopath that breaks into peoples homes and convinces little boiz to give him treats.
stop it!
AzzarTheGod
06-04-2016, 05:58 PM
underrated
top 5 monks dead or alive, geared or ungeared and that's just off 1 pvp video.
hokuten99
06-04-2016, 11:27 PM
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
*bows*
I love you all
iruinedyourday
06-04-2016, 11:40 PM
King Kong ain't got nuthing on me just say'n
LostCause
06-05-2016, 05:49 AM
What kind of freak levels two iksar monks 2 level 60?
what kind of freak levels a human monk to 60 gets him bis kunark geared then rerolls iksar
later down the road deletes human monk gets iksar monk renamed after human monk then leads a guild that doesn't make it more then 2 years total since server launch.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-05-2016, 07:13 AM
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
*bows*
I love you all
I pras you for posting
but I have already seen these, you just re-releasing old material
we want new, never before seen footage !
I swear everytime there was pvp someone said in TS "I got fraps running" but now, suddendly nobody has any videos to show
just upload them uncut
hokuten99
06-05-2016, 02:43 PM
I pras you for posting
but I have already seen these, you just re-releasing old material
we want new, never before seen footage !
I swear everytime there was pvp someone said in TS "I got fraps running" but now, suddendly nobody has any videos to show
just upload them uncut
sadly 80% of the community banded together to ensure no mass pvp would happen. I lost interest in the server rmt'd everything I owned then got banned. Havent played here in almost a year. Server is dead sorry to say, and the old material is the only material.
Uuruk
06-05-2016, 04:12 PM
what kind of freak levels a human monk to 60 gets him bis kunark geared then rerolls iksar
later down the road deletes human monk gets iksar monk renamed after human monk then leads a guild that doesn't make it more then 2 years total since server launch.
the person in my sig has led that life
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-05-2016, 04:25 PM
We need a < RMT AMNESTY > up in this bitch
It will be like a Reagan Moment rejuvenating this dead99 sanctuary
Uuruk
06-05-2016, 05:03 PM
We need a < RMT AMNESTY > up in this bitch
It will be like a Reagan Moment rejuvenating this dead99 sanctuary
Who is this scrub
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-05-2016, 06:24 PM
Who is this scrub
I am the teams99red hypeman
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-05-2016, 06:25 PM
who are you?
Uuruk
06-05-2016, 06:44 PM
who are you?
Is this a Krazy account or something
Efwan
06-05-2016, 07:58 PM
It's Perseus
Uuruk
06-05-2016, 08:11 PM
It's Perseus
Yikes, that guy sucked
TacoSmasher
06-05-2016, 08:47 PM
perseus seemed nice every time i encountered him but i heard many whispers in the wind about his bergahs
Uuruk
06-05-2016, 08:57 PM
perseus seemed nice every time i encountered him but i heard many whispers in the wind about his bergahs
Ur a bergah
DRAGONBAIT
06-06-2016, 09:17 AM
is hard for me to get inside the mind of people who rmt on this box. Back in the day u could earn a nice ammount like many pdms did on tallon, a nice ammount was more than a thousand a month, i understand that but on here? i cant get into ur minds, sore loosers i bet.
Izmael
06-06-2016, 09:27 AM
This ^ I can't understand people who put their accounts on stake with characters they invested years of their lives into, just to make a few dozens bucks. Or even a few hundreds.
How fucking pathetic must be one's life if 50 or 100 bucks is enough to risk all their stuff on the game they play every day for years.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 09:33 AM
perseus seemed nice every time i encountered him but i heard many whispers in the wind about his bergahs
hey, thats just red99 slander ! I never burgered. On the nicessness leaderboard i am #2 after Tala.
Never got pixel rot. The only thing I dont like is uncontested raiding and camping out against superior numbers.
Uuruk
06-06-2016, 10:11 AM
is hard for me to get inside the mind of people who rmt on this box. Back in the day u could earn a nice ammount like many pdms did on tallon, a nice ammount was more than a thousand a month, i understand that but on here? i cant get into ur minds, sore loosers i bet.
You were banned for RMT here.
LATER
hokuten99
06-06-2016, 10:42 AM
a thousand a month? lol
you could make a thousand a week before the server died.
you *****s clueless
also when you are quitting the server there is no risk about losing all your investments because you dont plan on playing anymore
Uuruk
06-06-2016, 10:58 AM
a thousand a month? lol
you could make a thousand a week before the server died.
you *****s clueless
also when you are quitting the server there is no risk about losing all your investments because you dont plan on playing anymore
Jib was the premium fungi dealer on red for a long time
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 11:36 AM
a thousand a month? lol
you could make a thousand a week before the server died.
you *****s clueless
also when you are quitting the server there is no risk about losing all your investments because you dont plan on playing anymore
Since you left dead99 behind you,
and since I am genuinely curious,
you wanna break down the numbers for us Jib?
Just on the back of the envelope, your guesstimates.
Fungi cant sell for more than 50 Dollars and noway there is 20 sold per week. Let alone 80 a month. There is like 2 new Players per month. And when leveling, all you Need is 1to Transfer through your characters.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 11:39 AM
also, its not like red99 folks are a customer segment with notoriously high purchasing power...
Id say it moves in parallel with average pocket money and disabled benefits
hokuten99
06-06-2016, 11:55 AM
averaged 350 onions a tunic
could sell 2 per day on a good day.
There is a reason people invest more into this server than real life. If only you knew what was really going on here.
Nirgon
06-06-2016, 12:03 PM
who the fuck paid 350 onions for a tunic
Smedy
06-06-2016, 12:06 PM
threefiddy for a fungus, sounds crazy 2 me maybe it happened once or twice but either way you look at it the time spent getting to the position where you have 6 fungus laying around you need to take a lot more then that for each fungus for it to be really worth your time
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 12:25 PM
If only you knew what was really going on here.
I am still hoping you d till us
what holds you back?
Chaboo_Cleric
06-06-2016, 12:27 PM
Salaryman Is that why is name is Salaryman keke
hokuten99
06-06-2016, 12:36 PM
threefiddy for a fungus, sounds crazy 2 me maybe it happened once or twice but either way you look at it the time spent getting to the position where you have 6 fungus laying around you need to take a lot more then that for each fungus for it to be really worth your time
This is true old comrade, but its important to understand that I got where I was by having fun not planning on rmting or even building up to it. So I was just simply there and ready to quit so figured why the hell not. fungus is very common drop as well I averaged one per 3 hours at the camp. There were 2 instances where I got a 2 fungi back to back within 1 hour. So roughly 150 onions an hour I was getting.
yes many tonics were sold.
I think braknar's comment before he banned me was
"this was a level of rmt he had never seen before and it was quite unbelievable."
Uuruk
06-06-2016, 12:45 PM
Damn figured it was either you or Krazy that was the insane fungi onion dealer
Phaezed-Reality
06-06-2016, 12:55 PM
there are tons of hot spots, where u see the same ole farmers at, that don't ever build out any new characters out and only guild the guild that controls that particular zone in order to farm it.
Uuruk
06-06-2016, 12:58 PM
there are tons of hot spots, where u see the same ole farmers at, that don't ever build out any new characters out and only guild the guild that controls that particular zone in order to farm it.
Yeah, i mainly put the Lodi farmers (salaryman, etc) and old ragefire farmers like Tamtam etc in the RMT column
Uuruk
06-06-2016, 12:59 PM
Kind of the same with the people who hoard the rogue/monk/cleric MQs on blue before nerf
Phaezed-Reality
06-06-2016, 01:04 PM
man i just read this forum, lotta people thinking there isnt huge rmt rackets that are putting thousands of dollars in peoples pockets a week are retarded, the fungi camp in particular.
That camp alone shared by 3 people camped regularly, logging in every 28 minutes you can score 3 fungis a day easy, and on good days you can get 5-6 sometimes even more, thats depending on the market 150-300 each per day for logging in once every 28 minutes and playing for 2 minutes. thats not so bad when your at another job that allows you do that. it's also not so bad if you life with you're parents and have no bills. it beats working mcdonnalds.
now thats just the fungi camp. with velious out a ton of new RMT farm spots are opened up.
Me and my brother farm for our plat so we know all the other farmers, very few farmers are actually farming items for plat to gear other characters, its very clear which ones are farming for RMT and not. and also, on the flip side since the people who farm the hot spots all know eachother. we in turn also know when someone like sektors comes outa nowhere spending 750k that we know he purchased that plat since he isn't part of the farm clique.
im not just singling out sektors, you can tell it just by looking at certain people like rogues that have no other character on the server and they are BIS droppables. etc and stuff like that. so clearly rmt'd everything.
like i have said many times there are two types of people who play here, the people who dont have time to grind items, and the people who do.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 01:12 PM
The only thing that seems unbelievable is that you try to make it sound like ist a time / Money trade off...
-- the market size question is still not adressed --
3 fungis per day easy, you say? Lets say you only grind weekdays, thats still 60 a month ? With a if you assume a Server Population volatility of double its size in its better days of 300. You would have oversaturated that market in lets then 2 month.
Let alone driven down the prize for a tunic.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 01:15 PM
Yeah, i mainly put the Lodi farmers (salaryman, etc) and old ragefire farmers like Tamtam etc in the RMT column
Ist literally the first time Uruk says something worthwhile hehe
Salaryman, Tamtam they were really hogging those spots. But then again, if it is valuable rmt wise, its also valuable in-game wise. So if Bergurgle MQ is good bang for the buck in plats too.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 01:24 PM
Always wondered if red99 was secretly split into sell-side, buy-side and casuals.
If nothing Comes to light my assesment is the following: its just occasional, opportunistic activity. Where there are buyers, there will be sellers. Sektors is classic example.
Phaezed-Reality
06-06-2016, 02:34 PM
Always wondered if red99 was secretly split into sell-side, buy-side and casuals.
If nothing Comes to light my assesment is the following: its just occasional, opportunistic activity. Where there are buyers, there will be sellers. Sektors is classic example.
as someone who was banned for RMT and part of RMT for quite some time i can tell you there was always def someone to sell to.
also, the smart traders they just farm hold onto everything and wait for a server event like for instance TMO coming over, or for instance when empire joined the server, or for example a bunch of retired people coming back for velious that dont want to do heavy lifting.
the above is what i did when i was involved. i would say though, now that the server has dropped 100 players, there is a stale server, prices do go down, and i been out of the game for a while so i don't know what its like anymore, i havn't done anything in a little less than a year and a half.
Phaezed-Reality
06-06-2016, 02:37 PM
the particular interesting thing about this server, specifically red is that even with a lower player base, a small timer like myself was able to make 10 grand a month buying low and selling high. But that was back when velious was announced. don't know what it's like now. probably horrid. the people who still farm red99 for paychecks are probably all junkies or disabled.
Chronoburn
06-06-2016, 02:44 PM
10K a month. Sounds realistic on a 300 pop server ....
hatelore
06-06-2016, 02:44 PM
Yeah, I was making 14 grand a month here until it got boring. Then I just started selling off the local neighborhood girls to the highest bidders I could find. Now I make 17 grand a month. Thinking about setting up a system where the girls farm fungis on red 99 in their off time while they are resting up in between shifts. Could prolly push it to 20k a month then...
Knuckle
06-06-2016, 02:49 PM
RMTers trump up their selling stats to justify the ungodly amount of time wasted in game, to try and create a cool mystique. It's profit because there are no bills living in moms basement with no car.
Smedy
06-06-2016, 03:11 PM
This is true old comrade, but its important to understand that I got where I was by having fun not planning on rmting or even building up to it. So I was just simply there and ready to quit so figured why the hell not. fungus is very common drop as well I averaged one per 3 hours at the camp. There were 2 instances where I got a 2 fungi back to back within 1 hour. So roughly 150 onions an hour I was getting.
yes many tonics were sold.
I think braknar's comment before he banned me was
"this was a level of rmt he had never seen before and it was quite unbelievable."
you made the best of a shitty situation dawg, not mad or bad just sad they won't wipe this shit clean so we can play classic again, that shit was most fun
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 03:14 PM
teams99 2016
Change we want to believe in !
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 03:17 PM
Make PvP Great Again
hokuten99
06-06-2016, 04:05 PM
Yeah I would love a reset and regular resets. regular resets would force rmt to be worth nothing and would allow people to just play for fun. I wish that would happen as well. Everquest is still the best game ever made sadly there is no fun server to play on at the moment. Just waiting for season 2 of LOZ now.
I have nothing to prove to some of you plebs claiming my numbers are inaccurate. Ive sold some of those fungi's for as high as 470 onions. I did not sell them on red you damn fools. I sold the fungi's for 150k-200k on blue for the red fungi and sold the plat for 2.5k /1kpp
Why do you think the day i got banned rogean banned red for blue trades. It was because of the ridiculous amount of money I was making.
do the math yourself
Farzo
06-06-2016, 04:12 PM
Lol RMT is like any addiction: the addict is gunna tell you about their best story which is 1% of the RMT game.
You can earn more working at McDonalds, it's only beneficial to people who DONT work and wanna trade 60 hrs of their time for a few hundred dollars per week.
...and in saying that the biggest RMTers on the server are generally right infront of your face. What's someones compulsion to keep farming the same content for hours on end???? their end goal is to make 50c per hour for their time.
The reality is people like Jibken spent 1000's of hours in the game and used 10's of people to get fungis/gear and probably rmt'd it all off for under 5 grand.
Farzo
06-06-2016, 04:18 PM
Yeah I would love a reset and regular resets. regular resets would force rmt to be worth nothing and would allow people to just play for fun. I wish that would happen as well. Everquest is still the best game ever made sadly there is no fun server to play on at the moment. Just waiting for season 2 of LOZ now.
I have nothing to prove to some of you plebs claiming my numbers are inaccurate. Ive sold some of those fungi's for as high as 470 onions. I did not sell them on red you damn fools. I sold the fungi's for 150k-200k on blue for the red fungi and sold the plat for 2.5k /1kpp
Why do you think the day i got banned rogean banned red for blue trades. It was because of the ridiculous amount of money I was making.
do the math yourself
It had nothing 2 do with you. Was jermeys pals who xfered millions of plat to red to rmt or were handing plat out on blue saying it was "for red xfers" when it was straight up rmt.
TMO was a fucking HUGE rmt bandwagon on blue for years.
Bastard ruined it for both servers.
Farzo
06-06-2016, 04:21 PM
Bastards**
Farzo
06-06-2016, 04:25 PM
Rage post x4:
And you can general tell who the big buyers are (not the dads who buy a fungi to sneak some eq time in when their wives are asleep type)...they never farm but have 1-2-3 decked toons in tradeable gear and have no issue splashing the platnium for all the trinkets and generally are very bad at the game because they've never ground out time learning it at farm camps or farm groups.
Phaezed-Reality
06-06-2016, 04:33 PM
Lol RMT is like any addiction: the addict is gunna tell you about their best story which is 1% of the RMT game.
You can earn more working at McDonalds, it's only beneficial to people who DONT work and wanna trade 60 hrs of their time for a few hundred dollars per week.
...and in saying that the biggest RMTers on the server are generally right infront of your face. What's someones compulsion to keep farming the same content for hours on end???? their end goal is to make 50c per hour for their time.
The reality is people like Jibken spent 1000's of hours in the game and used 10's of people to get fungis/gear and probably rmt'd it all off for under 5 grand.
you defiently arn't making any decent money now with this server, but i bet u its still better money than working a min wage job. at its height, once they announced velious those 4 months i held down 10k a month easily. by buying nihilum old accnts and reselling the items and selling the plat.
I was one of the 10 bigger guys at that time. I only started doing it because i quit, i started by selling all my stuff realized the money i could make by buying low and selling high so i kept going by buying peoples accounts off the nihi batphone.
Phaezed-Reality
06-06-2016, 04:35 PM
the real money wasn't in the big ticket items, it where all the nihilum players who had 11 EoE's 11 Tcrowns, 11 COFs, 11 fungis, 11 BoH's, 11 NoS's, 11 gobby earing. and those are the items that would sell fast at prices that lowered enough sold instantly. and you'd RMT the plat u got from it.
tons of people where doing it back then.
AzzarTheGod
06-06-2016, 04:39 PM
Yeah I would love a reset and regular resets. regular resets would force rmt to be worth nothing and would allow people to just play for fun. I wish that would happen as well. Everquest is still the best game ever made sadly there is no fun server to play on at the moment. Just waiting for season 2 of LOZ now.
I have nothing to prove to some of you plebs claiming my numbers are inaccurate. Ive sold some of those fungi's for as high as 470 onions. I did not sell them on red you damn fools. I sold the fungi's for 150k-200k on blue for the red fungi and sold the plat for 2.5k /1kpp
Why do you think the day i got banned rogean banned red for blue trades. It was because of the ridiculous amount of money I was making.
do the math yourself
A lot of what Jib said is true, the red to blue transfers enabled incredible triple returns on investments.
Most of you aren't thinking hard enough. Take 3 big droppables to start with. CoF, Fungi,...and BCG idk. What you would do is flip them once, even twice. Back and forth blue to red red to blue flip flip flip.
When the market was hot and red was booming with TMO etc, you could get a few flips and then return to blue with 3x the money so a few hundred bucks in items became 2.5k-3k from just bartering and flipping. The market doesn't support this anymore, it was mostly during the <TMO> era.
1 Decibel can't make up for all that economy lost since <TMO>
Agatha can explain it better than I can I just don't care enough. The flips were real, and the money was fucking huge.
AzzarTheGod
06-06-2016, 04:42 PM
I knew a guy who started with a TBB and flipped it 3-4 times from red to blue blue to red again for direct item trades every single time, and ended up with a CoF + a few other big ticket items lol....
The flips were real. A sucker is born every minute. You guys have no idea if you think Jib is full of shit.
Call bullshit on yourself Farzo.
Ragnaros
06-06-2016, 04:45 PM
I knew a guy who started with a TBB and flipped it 3-4 times from red to blue blue to red again for direct item trades every single time, and ended up with a CoF + a few other big ticket items lol....
The flips were real. A sucker is born every minute. You guys have no idea if you think Jib is full of shit.
Call bullshit on yourself Farzo.
don't talk to farzo like that I might have 2 sucker punch you when u aren't looking
HippoNipple
06-06-2016, 05:02 PM
Sounds like a couple druggies exaggerating about their wild wild west days on a 17 year old video game.
Bazia
06-06-2016, 05:08 PM
thanks for putting server in even worse place jib and getting cross server shit banned
Farzo
06-06-2016, 05:27 PM
I knew a guy who started with a TBB and flipped it 3-4 times from red to blue blue to red again for direct item trades every single time, and ended up with a CoF + a few other big ticket items lol....
The flips were real. A sucker is born every minute. You guys have no idea if you think Jib is full of shit.
Call bullshit on yourself Farzo.
This is a case in point example tho.Not everyone did that. Like I said this is a 1% story, the other 99% is just pals buying stuff, or people buying off rmt.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-06-2016, 05:48 PM
I am not really getting this flip-flip-flip server arbitrage business model
If you manage to get a small value increase with a direct item trade, it will be 3x that if you do it cross Server...but how big can your gains be with direct trade? It is a lot of hassle for sure
But good for you, I never minded rmt, as Long as it doesnt corrupt guild loot council decisions
the, buy old nihi accounts and strip em sounds a lot like what vapo was accused of, that could actually work well
HippoNipple
06-06-2016, 05:54 PM
I am not really getting this flip-flip-flip server arbitrage business model
If you manage to get a small value increase with a direct item trade, it will be 3x that if you do it cross Server...but how big can your gains be with direct trade? It is a lot of hassle for sure
But good for you, I never minded rmt, as Long as it doesnt corrupt guild loot council decisions
the, buy old nihi accounts and strip em sounds a lot like what vapo was accused of, that could actually work well
You have to think like a drug addict if you are going to understand them. When they say they were doing this all the time, it happened once. They relive that glory over and over until time, reality and drugs had them confused.
When he says he made $10k per month he made $1k selling 300 hours of play time that he unloaded over 3 days. Technically he was on pace for 10k per month but it was short lived. His 10 fungi tunics were gone, he paid rent, bought some drugs and 2 weeks later he was back on Red99 grinding over again.
Nirgon
06-06-2016, 09:40 PM
inhales through teeth
AzzarTheGod
06-06-2016, 09:46 PM
I am not really getting this flip-flip-flip server arbitrage business model
You aren't just selling and rebuying big ticket items for plat on a flip.
That's what you are missing. Its mostly item bartering where you really gain the big bucks per flip. Increasing and gaining 10-15k per trade on item value. You keep doing it and gaining more money, rebuying etc. CoF for TBB, Fungi + shit item for such and such, etc. Professional RMTers do this all day long, the fat cats you heard about do this as well, they just don't RMT.
Not surprised the whole thing is over a lot of peoples heads. Theres a reason why blue to red is banned and vice versa.
Its all over now that red to blue is closed.
AzzarTheGod
06-06-2016, 09:49 PM
And you post again, about how you are still confused. Its not about 1 sale, or 1 flip.
Its about skimming 10k here, 15k there (sometimes just 5k) on an item to item cross-server deal. You rinse and repeat this over and over again. Sometimes only getting 5k gain per deal.
You gain platinum by devaluing the other persons item. Its called bartering maybe you have heard of it.
Once you start snowballing you can't be stopped in a good economy, and you can collect a million platinum before you even think about RMTing anything.
Not sure you understand how the EC fatcats operate, nevermind adding server to server bartering and 3:1 ratios.
Uuruk
06-06-2016, 11:36 PM
A lot of what Jib said is true, the red to blue transfers enabled incredible triple returns on investments.
Most of you aren't thinking hard enough. Take 3 big droppables to start with. CoF, Fungi,...and BCG idk. What you would do is flip them once, even twice. Back and forth blue to red red to blue flip flip flip.
When the market was hot and red was booming with TMO etc, you could get a few flips and then return to blue with 3x the money so a few hundred bucks in items became 2.5k-3k from just bartering and flipping. The market doesn't support this anymore, it was mostly during the <TMO> era.
1 Decibel can't make up for all that economy lost since <TMO>
Agatha can explain it better than I can I just don't care enough. The flips were real, and the money was fucking huge.
Decibel sure is trying. He now owns Alarti/Menethil SoD and tons of droppable all RMT'd
MEGANS LAW
06-07-2016, 12:08 AM
doesnt jib run a pop a lock service? LOL
yea he's rolling in the dough
Farzo
06-07-2016, 02:34 AM
And you post again, about how you are still confused. Its not about 1 sale, or 1 flip.
Its about skimming 10k here, 15k there (sometimes just 5k) on an item to item cross-server deal. You rinse and repeat this over and over again. Sometimes only getting 5k gain per deal.
You gain platinum by devaluing the other persons item. Its called bartering maybe you have heard of it.
Once you start snowballing you can't be stopped in a good economy, and you can collect a million platinum before you even think about RMTing anything.
Not sure you understand how the EC fatcats operate, nevermind adding server to server bartering and 3:1 ratios.
yep xfer to red 3:1, xfer from red 4:1 25% gain each xfer on blue.
i.e 10k red to blue 40k ( 4:1)
then xfer it back 30k on blue 10k (3:1) on red... you gained 10k on blue.
but not many people did this tho coz its over the head of most people; I think loudog etc did it coz all they did was farm in trashcan gear 24/7
Farzo
06-07-2016, 02:35 AM
xfer blue 2 red god banned coz when TMO/and other RMTs decided it was time to go; they would hand plat to people under the guise it was for cross xfer trades.
also people were buying plat on blue and xfering it across (thus washing it)
Farzo
06-07-2016, 02:37 AM
people were dumb, you could farm 5 EoE's on a trashcan 55 druid on Red in the offpeak and own a fungi on blue.
I had 2 fungi's on blue doing this; but ended up xfering the wealth to red
AzzarTheGod
06-07-2016, 04:33 AM
yep xfer to red 3:1, xfer from red 4:1 25% gain each xfer on blue.
i.e 10k red to blue 40k ( 4:1)
then xfer it back 30k on blue 10k (3:1) on red... you gained 10k on blue.
but not many people did this tho coz its over the head of most people; I think loudog etc did it coz all they did was farm in trashcan gear 24/7
Nice refs on loudog his hand was obviously in some shit.
Ames1
06-07-2016, 06:25 AM
Yeah I would love a reset and regular resets. regular resets would force rmt to be worth nothing and would allow people to just play for fun. I wish that would happen as well. Everquest is still the best game ever made sadly there is no fun server to play on at the moment. Just waiting for season 2 of LOZ now.
I have nothing to prove to some of you plebs claiming my numbers are inaccurate. Ive sold some of those fungi's for as high as 470 onions. I did not sell them on red you damn fools. I sold the fungi's for 150k-200k on blue for the red fungi and sold the plat for 2.5k /1kpp
Why do you think the day i got banned rogean banned red for blue trades. It was because of the ridiculous amount of money I was making.
do the math yourself
As someone who has RMT'd on live and on red quite a bit, there are some real inaccuracies in what you posted.
Let's take the fungi for example. 150 an hour? Lol. We have to assume that you can hold the fungi camp solo for the entire day that you are online. Nobody in your guild can roll on it and you have to get lucky for one to drop. Now that you have this fungi you need to transfer it to an ALT since it's LORE. You transfer the item to an alt. Now you need to cover up your tracks a bit. People get banned for RMT all the time, you wouldn't just transfer it from your main directly to a character who can be traced to RMT otherwise your time selling items will be very short. This usually includes drop transferring items, transferring through friends and then drop x-fering some more.
Then you need to trade the red -- > blue. You need to sell the fungi. You need to set up your RMT post, wait for the item to sell and then "launder" the plat again before you either trade the plat back to red or set up a new post to sell your blue plat. You have to manage multiple accounts for this, preferably never using the same RMT character more the once and having more accounts just to hold the plat that hasn't sold yet. You never keep everything in one place.
Moving on to your customer base. There is only a finite amount of people on these servers that will buy things with RL cash. Since there are very few new players coming in, you deal with mostly the same people since you either don't care about RMT or are super against it. Let's say 25 people would consider buying items. 15 of them would buy a fungi. You sell 15 of those fungis. Let's say 5 of them want a 2nd fungi, so you sell 5 more. Now 16 of those people get banned in one of rogeans wave (400 people at a time, 300 people at a time - They love nothing more then to ban an RMTer). Your customer base that wanted a fungi now already has one, some of them two, and the other half has been banned. People RMT because they want something they don't have and do not want to spend the time in game to get it. Now that they RMT'd they have the shit they want so they stop RMTing. Some of those people banned are now turned off from RMTing because they realize that being banned is an actual possibility. Your customer base is ever shrinking, you risk being banned at any moment and you have to stay 3 steps ahead of the GM's - factor all this in and your really just a shmuck making 10-15 an hour. It's not worth it to RMT unless you quit and just sell all your shit and never come back. Farming items to sell is almost akin to a sweatshop.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-07-2016, 07:52 AM
factor all this in and your really just a shmuck making 10-15 an hour. .
No need to downgrade the other person, but insightful post. Thanks.
Some make it sound like pixels are some type of precious metal
guess some also invest into beanie babies and rare pepes
how would Engelburt say?
"yikes"
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-07-2016, 07:55 AM
The Wolf of Warsilk Woods
DRAGONBAIT
06-07-2016, 08:05 AM
You were banned for RMT here.
LATER
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. it was you right? that shitty empire rogue velious geared who was only able to kill my shaman on a 1v1 duel when i got stuck on a corner heal cast, just after i had already cured ur slosh and u were really done if i could get that heal on me and kite u. You made a very funny gif where u showed everyone how u killed me when stuck in that corner.
now i rmted? HAHAHHAA awesome. all my characters and all my stuff is here. Even my manna robe who i handed down to friends. Do not shit on my name plz. i can be lots of things but im honorable, even in a fucking elf sim where i play with people i dont know.
STFU
DRAGONBAIT
06-07-2016, 08:09 AM
averaged 350 onions a tunic
could sell 2 per day on a good day.
There is a reason people invest more into this server than real life. If only you knew what was really going on here.
so u found 2 krombopulous each day on the server? i dont believe you jibekn, tho i liked u back in the day untill when u sold ur ass to azrael leadership.
u can find 1 krombo guy maybe 2 a month, not more. people like to say they rmt a lot here but i dont think its true. theres no fkn market, some sektors who are always here and then some krombos who come from time to time from blue. thats it. sore loosers
Uuruk
06-07-2016, 08:22 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. it was you right? that shitty empire rogue velious geared who was only able to kill my shaman on a 1v1 duel when i got stuck on a corner heal cast, just after i had already cured ur slosh and u were really done if i could get that heal on me and kite u. You made a very funny gif where u showed everyone how u killed me when stuck in that corner.
now i rmted? HAHAHHAA awesome. all my characters and all my stuff is here. Even my manna robe who i handed down to friends. Do not shit on my name plz. i can be lots of things but im honorable, even in a fucking elf sim where i play with people i dont know.
STFU
Look out for this RMTer guys.
DRAGONBAIT
06-07-2016, 08:29 AM
yeah im trying to rmt all my fully velious and kunark characters from all the raids i did on this box. im really loaded everyone knows that i was a raid freak, i was in nihilum and empire so i could croot in pixels, i never showed up for pvp with rags. even more, i hide more than 1 character so noone knew it was me and theyre tov geared now, im selling them feel free to pm me.
Smedy
06-07-2016, 08:50 AM
who the fuck is this clown
Chaboo_Cleric
06-07-2016, 09:01 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. it was you right? that shitty empire rogue velious geared who was only able to kill my shaman on a 1v1 duel when i got stuck on a corner heal cast, just after i had already cured ur slosh and u were really done if i could get that heal on me and kite u. You made a very funny gif where u showed everyone how u killed me when stuck in that corner.
now i rmted? HAHAHHAA awesome. all my characters and all my stuff is here. Even my manna robe who i handed down to friends. Do not shit on my name plz. i can be lots of things but im honorable, even in a fucking elf sim where i play with people i dont know.
STFU
O boy how the mighty have fallen
Gardur
06-07-2016, 09:21 AM
Jesus dragonbait. Just stop posting.
Izmael
06-07-2016, 09:30 AM
Dragonbait is Rockandtroll, the troll shaman.
georgie
06-07-2016, 10:03 AM
quit slandering fungi farm, jib.
hokuten99
06-07-2016, 10:27 AM
some people saying i manipulated people to get fungi's and my numbers are not true etc.
You need to understand I solo'd the camp. I was 3 boxing. I logged in for 3 minutes, single pull the PH then killed on my wiz/clr/monk. In fact I think I gave away about 13 fungi's in my career of when I was playing for fun throughout hokuten/azrael/goodguys
I did this alone it took me 3-5 minutes every half an hour. It was very easy and fun. I actually met a lot of other rmt'ers during this process because there was a lot of other people doing the same thing. We all had many laughs at how dead the server was and how many people were fools for not doing what we were.
I seriously dont understand why you are all so mad I made like 150 an hour doing this and why you are trying to convince people im lying.
None of this had to happen and the server didnt have to die if the community wasnt a bunch of bluebie pussies all joining one guild and/or the staff would have enabled variance or just do something to help the server.
You all keep trying to use these illogical fallacies trying to take into account all my time played total when thats irrelevant. I didnt play here to rmt I played here for fun, at the last 2% of my time here I went out with a bang. I could have been like most of you and just went out with nothing but why the hell would i do that.
I'm really disappointed that it came to this because this server used to be a lot of fun. Maybe after some kind of reset or new server where I can play as a new alias on a new vpn we can all have fun again. Sadly none of you will know who I am.
HippoNipple
06-07-2016, 10:49 AM
Sadly none of you will know who I am.
hokuten99
06-07-2016, 10:59 AM
so bitter jelly mad sad and bad
Tassador
06-07-2016, 12:54 PM
$150 an hour on a sever with 90 people that is dead, this coming from a guy with probably 200 days played times 24 hours for fungus. So you made like a million dollars on a server that had maybe 900 unique players in 5 years. Your business was very successful.
DRAGONBAIT
06-07-2016, 01:13 PM
Jesus dragonbait. Just stop posting.
i missed this things
Uuruk
06-07-2016, 01:16 PM
It's like when one Down syndrome poster stops posting another shows up
DRAGONBAIT
06-07-2016, 01:17 PM
Dragonbait is Rockandtroll, the troll shaman.
Say it properly, i am Rockandtroll, Lord of the Ocean of Tears and top1 pvp shaman on this box while i was playing
syztem
06-07-2016, 01:23 PM
Pretty sure I recall you being down there, would see the PH down, no one in zone. then 2-3 chars popped in, king/ph would die again rinse repeat. Not only you did it though, I saw some different names over the months. especially when velious hit, that zone was dead as fuck being perma fungi farmed at the ledge by 2-3 people.
Modus
06-07-2016, 01:26 PM
You all keep trying to use these illogical fallacies trying to take into account all my time played total when thats irrelevant. I didnt play here to rmt I played here for fun, at the last 2% of my time here I went out with a bang.
So like, your Taco Bell job actually pays $200,000 an hour cause you only count the seconds you're cashing the check.
Makes total sense, these illogical fallacies and alls.
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-07-2016, 01:49 PM
reading comprehension, People
jib never said it was 3 digit Profit for every hour his chars had in /played
just for the time he did it
anyway, one of the people with leadership credentials left the server which is always sad
Hate them or love them, the list of people able to lead a guild bigger than a ganksquad is short:
Nizzar, Checkraise, Terp, Cyren, Gongshow, Lite, Jib, Salem, Madmax and honorary mention Gardur (10)
6 of them left this box behind
Uuruk
06-07-2016, 01:56 PM
reading comprehension, People
jib never said it was 3 digit Profit for every hour his chars had in /played
just for the time he did it
anyway, one of the people with leadership credentials left the server which is always sad
Hate them or love them, the list of people able to lead a guild bigger than a ganksquad is short:
Nizzar, Checkraise, Terp, Cyren, Gongshow, Lite, Jib, Salem, Madmax and honorary mention Gardur (10)
6 of them left this box behind
Ya, not so sure about that list
VZ_Xanit K'ven
06-07-2016, 01:58 PM
add names then,
pre 2014 I dont really have names
but then again,
who cares who played this box more than 3 years ago
Uuruk
06-07-2016, 04:18 PM
worship you should never post again you are 100% retarded
Videri
06-07-2016, 04:19 PM
It's like when one Down syndrome poster stops posting another shows up
Good morning, friend!
AzzarTheGod
06-07-2016, 05:10 PM
doesnt jib run a pop a lock service? LOL
yea he's rolling in the dough
Isn't it like 85 bucks for a pop, 125 bucks for a drill?
Good money if you are in a very big city with only a few competitors aint it? When I had to call the locksmith for my office door at 8:00 PM they came out.
He told me he was coming from another call, and that's why I had to wait so long, and he received ANOTHER call while he was doing my door...I'd say that's rolling in the dough but this is just 1 story.
charged 120 dollars since they couldn't pop it and had to blow the door, took him maybe 20 minutes for the entire visit.
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