Project 1999 Code - Long Term Goals of Project 1999

[HippoNipple]

Is there anyone that actually has access to Nilbog/Rogean? I know Rogeans stance was always keeping P1999's work private and not sharing but has this view been confirmed recently? It would be great for the emulator community if it was released. I understand the Devs wanting to finish what they set out to do but I would say they are reaching that goal soon, with Velious being out for a year. The experiment is over and they created great servers.

Does anyone have access to Nilbog/Rogean that could get an idea of their thoughts on the future of Blue/Red, releasing the code, or a confirmation that they plan on just leaving these servers as they are forever?

I will copy this over to Blue as well so it gets more attention since it relates to P1999 as a whole.

[HippoNipple]

go get a job hippo

Just applied, I'm starting Monday on the fries. They said if I work real hard I will be flipping burgers in no time.

Thanks for the advice.

[Bazia]

release the code plx

[Fame]

they are forever?


http://i.imgur.com/WwKH9RX.gif

[silo32]

Is there anyone that actually has access to Nilbog/Rogean? I know Rogeans stance was always keeping P1999's work private and not sharing but has this view been confirmed recently? It would be great for the emulator community if it was released. I understand the Devs wanting to finish what they set out to do but I would say they are reaching that goal soon, with Velious being out for a year. The experiment is over and they created great servers.

Does anyone have access to Nilbog/Rogean that could get an idea of their thoughts on the future of Blue/Red, releasing the code, or a confirmation that they plan on just leaving these servers as they are forever?

I will copy this over to Blue as well so it gets more attention since it relates to P1999 as a whole.

didn't read and please stop fucking posting hippo

you havnt played eq in 3 years now

maybe its time you move on from the forums

red is fine if you don't like, don't play don't post

ps didn't read any of that shit but I saw who op was and all that "blah blah blah" I knew my response already.

have a nice day faygate

btw op is a know rmt from back in the day, you disgust me pal

[iruinedyourday]

Seems weird to get free code from daybreak but then be like NO YOU CANT HAVE OUR CODE to the community.

[silo32]

Seems weird to get free code from daybreak but then be like NO YOU CANT HAVE OUR CODE to the community.

seems weird your asking for code from red staff when you can go ask daybreak

this ain't the lunch line boyo if you wanna run an eq emu do it with your own 2 cp

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by everyone
this thread
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[Colgate]

good contribution sirken

[Buhbuh]

upset

[bolo]

http://i.imgur.com/qetxSYB.gif

This on all forum post lately.


Viva la resistencia! :cool:

[Izmael]

Seems weird to get free code from daybreak but then be like NO YOU CANT HAVE OUR CODE to the community.

P99 didn't get free code from Daybreak. They use EQEmu (https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/), which has been written from scratch by volunteers with no contribution from Daybreak.

As for the client software, it is used by the players who bought it from SOE back then.

[Ames1]

release the code plx

Would you expect Apple to release all of their software code for free after all the hard work they put in to create it? Servers like these need to be built from the ground up and these nerds have put in years of their lives in order to make this what it is. Yes, I would like them to release the code 2 so that there could be more then one big classic eq emulator but that shit just aint gunna happen pal. Regardless of all of their personality flaws, I still respect the amount of neckbearding that went into p99's code.

[clacbec]

I still respect the amount of neckbearding that went into p99's code.

this.

[hokuten99]

OP is a total fool, do you have any idea how much money rogean would lose by allowing other people to run everquest servers?

[OfftuneRZ]

OP is a total fool, do you have any idea how much money rogean would lose by allowing other people to run everquest servers?

Are you serious? Anyone can get the eqemu code and open a server, its just the p99 code that is hoarded by staff.

[hokuten99]

Are you serious? Anyone can get the eqemu code and open a server, its just the p99 code that is hoarded by staff.

aye the open code is unplayable

[blurrysticks]

If you took the time to read here: https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/blob/master/README.md you can plainly see there is an IRC channel they hang out in.

[Kergan]

Sometimes I think R99 players forget there is a thriving blue server that runs the same code. The reason R99 is a low pop shithole that Rogean and other staff don't give a fuck about is entirely because of the cesspool community that plays on it.

The project as a whole is doing quite well.

[iruinedyourday]

P99 didn't get free code from Daybreak. They use EQEmu (https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/), which has been written from scratch by volunteers with no contribution from Daybreak.

As for the client software, it is used by the players who bought it from SOE back then.

Then replace db with emu community. I don't want the code, I get it, it makes sense, but also I could see opposing arguments. Like: if got code emu community = give code back to emu community

[Tomm Selleck]

good contribution sirken

[SamwiseRed]

red99 has always been a govt sponsored social experiment to keep certain people logged in and off the streets. vyrenoth and the dude who started shooting at the park are failures of said experiment.

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

red99 has always been a govt sponsored social experiment to keep certain people logged in and off the streets. vyrenoth and the dude who started shooting at the park are failures of said experiment.

hehe

the only reason they ever ran red99 is to Keep all the maniacs, druggies and bugerqueens seperated from the cash cow that is blue

[Tradesonred]

red99 has always been a govt sponsored social experiment to keep certain people logged in and off the streets. vyrenoth and the dude who started shooting at the park are failures of said experiment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAAlDoAtV7Y

[Bazia]

i just realized half our community are these:

http://i.imgur.com/3S1Q1EE.jpg?1

yiKes

[Tradesonred]

Whats the other half, close to the edge ex-military with PTSD, anger management issues who think girls shouldnt be wearing blue because its a boy color

[Masakizt]

Sometimes I think R99 players forget there is a thriving blue server that runs the same code. The reason R99 is a low pop shithole that Rogean and other staff don't give a fuck about is entirely because of the cesspool community that plays on it.

The project as a whole is doing quite well.

Blue is not doing well. Its a top heavy, over inflated, over exploited server, with a horrendous raid scene.

Its to be expected with such things being in the game for soo long such as invis pulling, donals bp to name just a couple.

Both servers a beta.

All they need is a restart with a proper and classic timeline.

People like to think this shits classic. This shit aint classic. Starting with timeline.....

Wipe these test servers clean.

[Izmael]

Then replace db with emu community. I don't want the code, I get it, it makes sense, but also I could see opposing arguments. Like: if got code emu community = give code back to emu community

The EQEmu software is one thing, the database is another.

It took them bazillions of man-hours, tears, sweat and blood to construct that DB (and probably adapt the EQEmu code somewhat, not to mention fiddle with the client itself through dsetup.dll and friends). They dedicated years of competent developer, sysadmin, you-name-it time to making p99 happen.

They could have spent that time making money for themselves, these skill sets are very marketable today, and not at the minimum wages at all. So you can see it as if they spent their own money (and a lot of it) for p99 to happen.

If Live EQ is shut down at some point, maybe they will have a shot to actually making money back from all that work. Why would they ruin their chances at it by releasing the DB?

[HippoNipple]

didn't read and please stop fucking posting hippo

you havnt played eq in 3 years now

maybe its time you move on from the forums

red is fine if you don't like, don't play don't post

ps didn't read any of that shit but I saw who op was and all that "blah blah blah" I knew my response already.

have a nice day faygate

btw op is a know rmt from back in the day, you disgust me pal

First essay I have ever seen written about not reading something. Get a life kid.

[easy_lee]

I don't think Rogean and friends releasing the code would be the best move. That will lead to a situation where we have lots of servers that are "P1999 but with...!" Thus, the very limited classic EQ Emu playerbase would be too divided. And though blue is a bit crowded, there are few enough people here on red as is.

A reset, knowing everything our devs know now and having all of the coding in place they've already done, would be wise, I think. It would essentially be a better version of what we've already had.

But these are just my hopes and dreams (I welcome jokes about the pathetic state of my life and genitals). I'm sure our staff are making plans to do something.

[Tradesonred]

I don't think Rogean and friends releasing the code would be the best move. That will lead to a situation where we have lots of servers that are "P1999 but with...!" Thus, the very limited classic EQ Emu playerbase would be too divided. And though blue is a bit crowded, there are few enough people here on red as is.

A reset, knowing everything our devs know now and having all of the coding in place they've already done, would be wise, I think. It would essentially be a better version of what we've already had.

But these are just my hopes and dreams (I welcome jokes about the pathetic state of my life and genitals). I'm sure our staff are making plans to do something.

I have to read more than one paragraph? What am i, stupid?

[heartbrand]

I would pay $50,000 for red99

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

I would pay $50,000 for red99

I pledge 200 american dollars for red teams !

[hatelore]

I got 5 on it~

[Stasis01]

Ill throw some on my credit card.

[Ragnaros]

how much code does a 25$ wendys gift card get me

[FAPhoenix]

I would pay $50,000 for red99

Should run R99 by the valuations team first tax man...don't want to overpay.

But I'll match the $200usd above for a teams server, which is like a million Canadian.

[Tradesonred]

I'd throw in 10 million dollars

[notinmyname]

i just realized half our community are these:

http://i.imgur.com/3S1Q1EE.jpg?1

yiKes

Hi bby

[hatelore]

Perseus was a pretty cool cat. We had some fun times pvp'in before the server died.

[Sear]

I don't think Rogean and friends releasing the code would be the best move. That will lead to a situation where we have lots of servers that are "P1999 but with...!" Thus, the very limited classic EQ Emu playerbase would be too divided.


It would be cool for developers, but it's not their obligation.

And yes, it would result in dozens of shitlords releasing their own LOLLYZEK 69 WARZ hackboxes w/ awful custom features jimmy-rigged in. Let's not kid ourselves.

If I was serious about wanting to use P99 code, I'd approach Rogean with money and a willingness to agree to his terms (not mine). And I'd probably email him privately instead of trying to pressure him with a public forum demand.

[MEGANS LAW]

It would be cool for developers, but it's not their obligation.

And yes, it would result in dozens of shitlords releasing their own LOLLYZEK 69 WARZ hackboxes w/ awful custom features jimmy-rigged in. Let's not kid ourselves.

If I was serious about wanting to use P99 code, I'd approach Rogean with money and a willingness to agree to his terms (not mine). And I'd probably email him privately instead of trying to pressure him with a public forum demand.

like ur 1 to talk.

fucking 0.001% cdok drop rate u piece of shit.

[Sear]

No apologies bro.

Ultra-rare drops kept people playing instead of flooding the server with BIS gear one month after Kunark was released. I did what was best for a box with ~300 players instead of 2000.

[MEGANS LAW]

No apologies bro.

Ultra-rare drops kept people playing instead of flooding the server with BIS gear one month after Kunark was released. I did what was best for a box with ~300 players instead of 2000.

cant ever forgive u 4 wut u did 2 us.

http://i.imgur.com/4XqFVRn.jpg

[HippoNipple]

It would be cool for developers, but it's not their obligation.

And yes, it would result in dozens of shitlords releasing their own LOLLYZEK 69 WARZ hackboxes w/ awful custom features jimmy-rigged in. Let's not kid ourselves.

If I was serious about wanting to use P99 code, I'd approach Rogean with money and a willingness to agree to his terms (not mine). And I'd probably email him privately instead of trying to pressure him with a public forum demand.

No one is trying to pressure Rogean, which is impossible because the guy doesn't care. I just opened the thread to see if anyone knew if the guy had any plans or what his thoughts were. If the answer is he doesn't plan on doing anything that is acceptable, and what I think most people expect.