View Full Version : Late game Min / Max list for Velious
Kelor
05-20-2016, 05:15 PM
I remember a thread like this for Kunark around 2 years back. Can we do one Velious? Has much changed?. Along with what to put points into for creation, may come in handy for some folks.
Enchanter : High Elf ( Highest base CHA)
SK : Ogre ( Stun immune )
Warrior : Ogre ( Raids ) - Halfling ( For a duo / trio )
Monk : Iksar ( No contest )
Shaman : Ogre ( At 60 with Torpor ) - Iksar / Troll ( For everything outside of solo )
Necro : Iksar ( No contest )
Juevento
05-20-2016, 05:18 PM
If you need to min/max your race, it just means that you suck at this game and need the crutch.
Hastley
05-20-2016, 05:35 PM
If you need to min/max your race, it just means that you suck at this game and need the crutch.
Didn't you and bda suck so bad you ran away to an instances server (phingiel). Pot meet kettle
Doctor Jeff
05-20-2016, 05:36 PM
Didn't you and bda suck so bad you ran away to an instances server (phingiel). Pot meet kettle
The guy is just bitter that he got griefed off a PVE box. Let him have his moment.
NarcolepticLTD
05-20-2016, 05:37 PM
If you need to min/max your race, it just means that you suck at this game and need the crutch.
khanable
05-20-2016, 05:47 PM
If you need to min/max your race, it just means that you suck at this game and need the crutch.
Kelor
05-20-2016, 06:26 PM
Any serious replies?
Doctor Jeff
05-20-2016, 06:29 PM
Any serious replies?
What could have been a fun discussion speculating what the best possible Race/Class combinations could be, has instead turned into a circle-jerk of BDA members crying about how they were griefed off of a PVE box by their own leadership.
GAME OVER.
You have scored 4 points.
Click here to start again. (http://www.project1999.com/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=17)
Safon
05-20-2016, 06:30 PM
If you need to min/max your race, it just means that you suck at this game and need the crutch.
Hagglebaron
05-20-2016, 06:31 PM
If you need to min/max your race, it just means that you suck at this game and need the crutch.
Halox
05-20-2016, 06:44 PM
Hey! I play an iksar necro. But I've played it long before all the min/max talk.
Swish
05-20-2016, 08:14 PM
Didn't you and bda suck so bad you ran away to an instances server (phingiel). Pot meet kettle
casually not hardcore enough apparently
:o
fiveeauxfour
05-20-2016, 08:42 PM
Monk : Iksar ( No contest )
you must drink a lot of kool aide
Erati
05-20-2016, 08:45 PM
why is Druid not on your list?
Doctor Jeff
05-20-2016, 08:49 PM
you must drink a lot of kool aide
A level 60 Iksar Monk in the same gear as a level 60 Human monk will have around 35-55 more AC.
They also benefit from an additional 8 hp per tick at level 60 which has definitely saved my life when pulling and failing a flop in the past. When you survive at 5 hit points, you'll be glad that you were an Iksar.
I'm not making the case that min-maxing is necessary, and I'm not saying that the difference is big, but an Iksar is definitely superior to a Human.
Thulack
05-20-2016, 08:51 PM
why is Druid not on your list?
Cause we all know Halfling druids are the best :D
Doctor Jeff
05-20-2016, 08:52 PM
Cause we all know Halfling druids are the best :D
No contest. They can sneak.
fiveeauxfour
05-20-2016, 09:06 PM
A level 60 Iksar Monk in the same gear as a level 60 Human monk will have around 35-55 more AC.
They also benefit from an additional 8 hp per tick at level 60 which has definitely saved my life when pulling and failing a flop in the past. When you survive at 5 hit points, you'll be glad that you were an Iksar.
I'm not making the case that min-maxing is necessary, and I'm not saying that the difference is big, but an Iksar is definitely superior to a Human.
https://i.imgur.com/CyYt902.jpg
Foxplay
05-20-2016, 09:17 PM
half elf ranger with max CHA, for better vendor prices to get extra money to pay for rezes
xKoopa
05-20-2016, 09:31 PM
A level 60 Iksar Monk in the same gear as a level 60 Human monk will have around 35-55 more AC.
They also benefit from an additional 8 hp per tick at level 60 which has definitely saved my life when pulling and failing a flop in the past. When you survive at 5 hit points, you'll be glad that you were an Iksar.
I'm not making the case that min-maxing is necessary, and I'm not saying that the difference is big, but an Iksar is definitely superior to a Human.
Youre forgetting the most important thing.. fashion
Did you see when florid had the custom cowl and efreeti pants? Literally won fashion quest that day
E what are you gonna do when ur big bad bis and ur ugly af in the tunnel? Yea
Doctor Jeff
05-20-2016, 09:35 PM
Youre forgetting the most important thing.. fashion
Did you see when florid had the custom cowl and efreeti pants? Literally won fashion quest that day
E what are you gonna do when ur big bad bis and ur ugly af in the tunnel? Yea
I play on Red where it makes a, however small, difference.
fiveeauxfour
05-20-2016, 09:41 PM
I play on Red
\https://i.imgur.com/veA6TeI.jpg
GinnasP99
05-20-2016, 09:54 PM
DE necro, the only way to fly
I would say Iksar Monk, Iksar Necro, Ogre Shadowknight, and Ogre/Troll shaman will bring noticeable but hardly game-breaking benefits. Everything else is pretty minimal.
Oh and Iksar Warrior wins fashionquest by a mile.
Swish
05-21-2016, 06:29 AM
As a dark elf SK I can say I know its a struggle to get up past 200 stamina (especially when my start points didnt all go stamina)...but I never dealt well with large races, and that iksar 2h sword animation... lol.
No care for min/maxing. If you invest enough time in your character you'll get to the same point as the min/maxers regardless (racial bonuses aside).
Kelor
05-21-2016, 09:59 AM
OP's list sucks just like him
Very mature
JurisDictum
05-21-2016, 05:56 PM
One of the most overlooked things IMO:
Clerics can't use the BiS chest unless they are Gnome, Human, High Elf, or Dark Elf.
Gnome is probably the best because they have the easiest time looking through walls. But some argue the snare neck that Dark Elves get is a better advantage.
JurisDictum
05-21-2016, 06:01 PM
I remember a thread like this for Kunark around 2 years back. Can we do one Velious? Has much changed?. Along with what to put points into for creation, may come in handy for some folks.
Enchanter : High Elf ( Highest base CHA)
SK : Ogre ( Stun immune )
Warrior : Ogre ( Raids ) - Halfling ( For a duo / trio )
Monk : Iksar ( No contest )
Shaman : Ogre ( At 60 with Torpor ) - Iksar / Troll ( For everything outside of solo )
Necro : Iksar ( No contest )
Here whats wrong with the list:
Enchanter: will have max cha anyway. edit: Dark Elf can break charm with hide -- making them probably the best until you get an item for this (classic a lot harder than Kunark).
SK: Trolls and Iksar regain is probably better than stun from the front immunity. You really don't get interrupted that often. Only in PvP would I consider otherwise.
Warrior: There aren't really any raids where that's important yet.
Monk/Necro: yes, but it doesn't matter nearly as much as most people think for raiding. It's mostly for solo and perhaps a little group.
Shaman: Very debatable -- similar to SK except your more likely to appreciate the frontal immunity.
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